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Thane Thread 'It's difficult. All things worth keeping are.' Spoilers will be neck-snapped.

Débuté par Tasha vas Nar Rayya , juin 13 2011 07:47

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Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 05:34

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Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Beautifully thought out, Mei.

I personally held the assumption that, by the end of developing his relationship with FemShep in ME2 (that is to say, towards the romance scene), he pretty much changed his entire outlook on life and no longer had a death wish. Why? Because he no longer has any reason to HAVE a death wish, no matter how small. The romance scene itself does a good job of setting this in stone.

So now, you can see why I can't help but wonder why he suddenly happens to be on a crime-ridden planet come ME3. I am, of course, looking at this from the romanced-Thane perspective. You can bet the magazine is talking about a non-romanced Thane. However, I still am sure that Thane will be on Invictus whether romanced or not. It's just a matter of WHY he is there to begin with. I doubt it's the same as his reason from ME2 for infiltrating the Dantius Towers. From what little I can make out at this point, it most certainly has to do with rescuing the hanar scientists.


It comes down to the purpose of why he has taken on the mission. To reduce suicidality, Thane would need to have a purpose and be hopeful. At the end of ME2, Female Shepard offered support but again, the quality of the relationship is imperative for him to continue on living.

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Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 05:50

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Yup, I'd bet.

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Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 06:58

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Dave of Canada wrote...

I just don't see why Thane should survive considering that was what his entire character was about and Thanemancers knew exactly what they were getting into when they were romancing him. Surviving past the credits? Sure. Dyying in the epilogue like Viconia? Better because you'd actually see it coming.


Viconia doesn't necessarily die in the epilogue of Throne of Bhaal. And judging by the past games of Bioware and the Mass Effect series, I imagine that whether or not Thane lives or dies will depend upon a choice by the player. It is in their style to leave options concerning characters open to the player.

Also, as Thanemancers, we offered him hope. And decided to let our Shepards give him a good quality of life before he dies.

Of course, we could survive, it isn't completely unplausible in the context of the Mass Effect universe. I wouldn't like it to be a miracle cure by the Hanar when Thane himself has said that it is unlikely that the Hanar will cure Keprel's within his lifetime. But there are many other options, it is over 150 years in the future after all.

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Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 07:31

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I'm thinking Thane is on that planet because he is protecting the hanar scientist and the research for the cure. He doesn't have a death wish, he's just still willing to risk his life for the greater good. Actually, for all we know he's volunteering himself for testing to boot. He get's to still run around being active with protecting those hanar scientist by killing off what I assume must be another planet infested with husks and Cerberus jerk plus a bunch of those criminal scum. Then potentially get his own life prolonged or become fully cured.

Also, once again. Thane is not defined by his dying. Take that away, and he will remain the same person. His personality is reacting to dying. His personality wasn't formed by it. It was extra drama they threw in for the romance and to also explain why the drell are endangered.

I have talked about this before. I will accept fully if he does die. I realize that in reality that is the major issue when entering a relationship like this, accepting death will happen. Wish for a cure but not believe it will happen.

However, as I've said before, this game is not reality but a science fiction and Bioware has the right to do whatever the crap they want with Thane.

edit: After all, Thane like many other characters in the game, is fan service. Just mostly for the female audience instead of the male.

Modifié par Lucky Thirteen, 08 octobre 2011 - 07:37 .

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Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 08:06

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Big stupid jellyfish wrote...

@Cheez: I know what you mean and, being a Thanemancer, I understand the appeal of him dying gloriously in combat... Or even the appeal of him fading away because of the Kerpal's. I, however, cannot help but refer to the thread you've made a day ago: let my Shepard and me save him and have him by our side. :)

Yep.  Hence why I sort of support a Thane cure.  Bring on the goddamn happy endings.

Just, you know, not super-contrived or anything.  Make it good.  And weighty.  Bioware shouldn't be all, "well you asked for it, so here you go derp."

Or just let him live long enough to see the credits roll.

Hah, I laughed a little bit at this :lol:.
I would be dissappointed if Bioware was like
*Hands Thane cure*
Hanar: This one made cure, this one will be happy to have you take it.
Thane :" :blink:. Just like this? Nothing .. special? Or even good? Just...this :mellow:. "
Anyway though,  like you said, it should be good and weighty. Make it heart-warming or something. 
Or have a supercoolneverseenbeforeawesome ending for Thane after the credits. I'd be happy .:happy:

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Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 08:32

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Ah, there's always a catch isn't there.  I expected no less. 

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Viconia doesn't necessarily die in the epilogue of Throne of Bhaal. And judging by the past games of Bioware and the Mass Effect series, I imagine that whether or not Thane lives or dies will depend upon a choice by the player. It is in their style to leave options concerning characters open to the player.

Also, as Thanemancers, we offered him hope. And decided to let our Shepards give him a good quality of life before he dies.

Here's to hoping you're right Tasha.

(Man, why does everyone say everything I want to say? :bandit:)
And so this post isn't completely worthless...

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Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 09:03

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Hope for the best and expect the worst has always been my motto when it comes to these sorts of things.

I'M NOT GIVING UP YET
WE'VE COME THIS FAR
*waves her little cure flag*

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Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 09:24

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So they only give us one mission with Thane, and then turn around and still let him die. That would be very disappointing.

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Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 09:32

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If I were writing it, I'd have it be too late to save him. He dies in the epilogue, but is remembered as the savior of his species.

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Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 09:34

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That could be one ending, but I wouldn't want it to be the only one.

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Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 09:39

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wildannie wrote...

JECWSU wrote...

The only one who might benefit from that would probably be Liara.


I know... and I really can't stand her.  I enjoyed LoTSB, Liara being in it was the down side.


I don't really mind Liara, and I did enjoy LotSB. I pretty much expect her to get more than anyone else.

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Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 09:48

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wildannie wrote...

JECWSU wrote...

The only one who might benefit from that would probably be Liara.


I know... and I really can't stand her.  I enjoyed LoTSB, Liara being in it was the down side.

I'm not a fan of Liara either. Shes alright with her biotic powers but anything else, I just down right dislike her. 
But LoTSB was fun with Thane :wub:

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Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 10:01

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Lucky Thirteen
Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 10:16

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nom nom nom gimmie teh spoilers Thane

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Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 10:26

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#1916
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Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 10:28

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Hi  everyone!

I heard about the news,  Thane will be on the planet Invictus in ME3. ^_^ 
isn't Thane suppose to avoid humid climates  becuase of his illness?Image IPB

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Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 10:33

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Yes he is and that worries me. :(

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Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 10:39

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Most settlements on Invictus are located in the desert, where local pests and diseases don't thrive as easily. The jungle is a hotbed of nasty parasites that wiped out the initial turian settlement, hence most folks stay the hell away from it.

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Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 10:46

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good to know. lol

#1920
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Posté 08 octobre 2011 - 10:57

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Thank you again, Cheez.

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Lucky Thirteen
Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 12:00

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I totally knew that.

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Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 12:02

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What would we do without you AdmiralCheez? xD

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Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 01:27

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LiveLoveThaneKrios wrote...

What would we do without you AdmiralCheez? xD

You'd have to read magazine articles and planetary descriptions yourself, that's what.

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Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 01:45

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

LiveLoveThaneKrios wrote...

What would we do without you AdmiralCheez? xD

You'd have to read magazine articles and planetary descriptions yourself, that's what.

Image IPB The horror!

Thanks for your info though, I have put it in the OP under spoilers! We have had so little info on Thane that it is nice to get a juicy tidbit. Image IPB

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Posté 09 octobre 2011 - 02:00

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It's a good feeling when you've finally got enough goods to put it in the OP.

Anyway, I've never really stated my opinion on Thane's illness "defining his character." Short version: it doesn't.

Long version: Who we are is not defined by what diseases we have or how long we have left to live. It presents a unique struggle and colors our outlook on life, yes, but it is not the essence of our being. Thane, having so little time left, was attempting to correct the mistakes of his past to make things a little brighter before departing (did he say that or not, I can't remember). But this was not the whole of his character. He would still be a skilled assassin with deep spirituality and a philosophical mind without Kepral's. He would still be a regretful father that wondered every day whether he had failed his family. The only differences, perhaps, would be his haste in correcting his mistakes and his reckless attitude towards his own safety.

Being cured of his illness or somehow extending his life span gives him a unique opportunity: a second chance. He doesn't have to scramble to fix everything so hard and find some way to die with dignity anymore, and instead can focus on doing things over, working to heal the wounds between him and his son, putting more real good in the world instead of just taking the bad out. That kind of freedom would be like a rebirth for him, a chance to be something more than just a tool for others to use.

I think he deserves that second chance, and even if he doesn't get it, at least he's fixed things enough that he can die content.
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