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[CrimsonLuna]

I hope they all have different animations , cause it was annoying that fem shep didn't have her own animations . Watching Fem shep sit like a man with that black dress... was horrible lol.

Maybe some of the races will share animations , like Humans and Asari ?but it would funny to see a Krogan running around like if they weren't heavy lol.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Would make sense if the more humanoid races shared the same animations. But krogan and volus (if they're an option) should be exceptions.

[Fiery Phoenix]

No problems! More info is supposed to hit in the next few hours so keep an eye out if you're all interested.

I must say I was rather excited when Casey declared the ability to play as a drell. Drell snipers FTW!

[CrimsonLuna]

@ Mei mei
what about  wearing it privately at home while playing ME3 lol

[Verly]

if I play mp I'll be playing a drell as well. don't care if it's male or female.

[Fiery Phoenix]

As long as we get to see the glory of shirtless Thane, everything else can be rectified. *tries to resist temptation*

[Tinve]

Fiery Phoenix, thank you!

[Tinve]

Fiery Phoenix, thank you!

[Fiery Phoenix]

Sure.

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JECWSU wrote...

Some of the reasons I've heard are people say that they don't like how he doesn't take responsibility for the killings he has done. I find it silly because Thane isn't human so he doesn't think like a human, and this is a video game, not real life.

I've heard people say that he still loves his dead wife and is using Shepard as a replacement. I never once got the impression that Shepard was a replacement. If I thought she was I wouldn't have done the romance. I have read some people were upset because he called them Siha. They felt it was to personal ,and they think that he use to call his wife that. Out of all the things and they pick that. There is also no proof that he ever called his wife that either. Thane never once says he did.

Some people don't want to romance someone who's dying. They don't like the fact that he was once married, or the fact that he has a kid. The silliest thing I read was they didn't like his outfit. I've heard it all. These are just some of the reasons people have given.

Oh, that argument about his inability to take responsibility? Hoo boy, do I have a heyday explaining that lengthy logic. It all makes sense to me as to why Thane has a body/mind separation belief. He may be an alien, but Bioware is made up of human developers and human logic is applied there somewhere. The brief version is "coping mechanism for a conveniently impressionable child". Will give a more thorough explanation if any of you Thane fans want it as a retort against those who complain about Thane that way.
The argument about how Thane was replacing his dead wife was put in the ground by Pacifien when he stated that people can love different people in different ways. I don't recall Thane ever referring to Irikah as "Siha". I thought he viewed her more as the goddess Arashu. So in a way, "Siha" was very comforting to be called that as it seemed a good indicator of Shepard having her own place in his heart since Siha was a warrior angel that served Arashu. It showed that Shepard will never replace Irikah.
Ok, I forgot the other reason why I didn't romance Thane. Part of me is unwilling to become that attached to someone about to leave so quickly. I don't have the strength to carry that kind of ache. It's no guarantee either with Garrus, but I can fool myself into thinking there's a chance that he'll be there right to the end.

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Enmystic wrote...

Drell are rare and Kelham was trying to insult him.  Not smart, but Thane's a calm man.

From what I've seen some people don't like Thane because they think he's boring, a cliched character(what?), or they don't like how he rationalizes his profession. Edit:  Also his flashback moments are off putting to most.<_<

I have a problem with two of those arguments, but the third one is just ridiculous.  Each to their own opinion I suppose.  Anyway, happy thoughts.  We love Thane here.

Sometimes, I swear I get so caught up in the forest that I miss the tree I just ran headfirst into.

Did hear about that complaint. People keep hearing the same story about a professional killer with a redeeming aspect to his character. Also about high-profile assassins avenging their family. I guess it's the emotional familiarity that's driving them nuts. They feel that Bioware's hitting a cheap spot with the slaughtered family history.

I have a very methodical explanation as to why he has that kind of rationalization if you want it to defend Thane from that accusation. No, it's not because he's an alien. It centers around the culture he was raised in.

I don't blame people for being a little unsettled by his flashbacks. They were a bit random the first time meeting him until he explained it. When you're having a first-time conversation with a guy who a few hours ago murdered a group of mercs in a very brutally efficient manner, lots of people are going to be nervous.
Especially when he stares at you with his eyes.
I'm surprised how few complaints there are about his eyes. Thane will always be my favorite alongside Garrus, but I never want to get stuck in a staring contest with him.

[Plakto]

PrimalEden wrote...

JECWSU wrote...

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Oh, that argument about his inability to take responsibility? Hoo boy, do I have a heyday explaining that lengthy logic. It all makes sense to me as to why Thane has a body/mind separation belief. He may be an alien, but Bioware is made up of human developers and human logic is applied there somewhere. The brief version is "coping mechanism for a conveniently impressionable child". Will give a more thorough explanation if any of you Thane fans want it as a retort against those who complain about Thane that way.
The argument about how Thane was replacing his dead wife was put in the ground by Pacifien when he stated that people can love different people in different ways. I don't recall Thane ever referring to Irikah as "Siha". I thought he viewed her more as the goddess Arashu. So in a way, "Siha" was very comforting to be called that as it seemed a good indicator of Shepard having her own place in his heart since Siha was a warrior angel that served Arashu. It showed that Shepard will never replace Irikah.
Ok, I forgot the other reason why I didn't romance Thane. Part of me is unwilling to become that attached to someone about to leave so quickly. I don't have the strength to carry that kind of ache. It's no guarantee either with Garrus, but I can fool myself into thinking there's a chance that he'll be there right to the end.

Friends, Plakto is going to handle this like a grown up. Mark your calendars.

To begin, Sir and or Madam, this is a Thane fan thread. If you personally had something aganist Thane, his romance, his character, etc - nobody stuck a flag out there and demanded to come in here and be a jerk to us. Furthermore, you read through no less than  several posts - several in a character that you are clearly displeased with,  to find that quote and flame us. I am going to poletly ask you - WHY in the hopes that you are not a troll and hoenstly asked these questions so that someone can answer them.

Secondly, about Thane and his "logic"...I don't think you've completely understand and accept the scope of what "alien" means. it means that he's different on a fundamental level. He may have characteristics and traits that we will understand, a million more than we will not. This is where we pull out our big commander Shepard underroos and accept that just because we disagree or it is beyond the scope of our understanding with it - dosen't make something "wrong," "evil" or 'bad." mark it up as a culture difference, he being an alien and all, and move on.

Finally, No. Shepard will not replace Irikah. ever. "siha" can be loosley translated as "valkyrie", whereas Irikah may have had a higher pedestal in his life OR it may mean she had a differnt one. we are never given evidence as to what title Irikah had, if she had one at all. That much of his backstory isn't revealled to us and we are wrong to make assumptions for the sake of hating a character - but i DO HAVE a question for you - do you have two parents? That is, one than one parent? Their genders are irrlevant here - it's that you love BOTH you parents equally and they both have the same title in your life. YOU LOVE THEM BOTH THE SAME, they don't compete with one another for your affections. Consider Shepad and Irikah as they same, he loves them both.

nobody is playing second fiddle to another. Garrus is more your style, and for that - more power to you.

[JECWSU]

@Plakto
I don't think PrimalEden is trolling. She just wanted to know some reasons why some people don't like Thane, so I answered her.

Modifié par JECWSU, 12 octobre 2011 - 05:12 .

[JECWSU]

PrimalEden wrote...

Oh, that argument about his inability to take responsibility? Hoo boy, do I have a heyday explaining that lengthy logic. It all makes sense to me as to why Thane has a body/mind separation belief. He may be an alien, but Bioware is made up of human developers and human logic is applied there somewhere. The brief version is "coping mechanism for a conveniently impressionable child". Will give a more thorough explanation if any of you Thane fans want it as a retort against those who complain about Thane that way.
The argument about how Thane was replacing his dead wife was put in the ground by Pacifien when he stated that people can love different people in different ways. I don't recall Thane ever referring to Irikah as "Siha". I thought he viewed her more as the goddess Arashu. So in a way, "Siha" was very comforting to be called that as it seemed a good indicator of Shepard having her own place in his heart since Siha was a warrior angel that served Arashu. It showed that Shepard will never replace Irikah.
Ok, I forgot the other reason why I didn't romance Thane. Part of me is unwilling to become that attached to someone about to leave so quickly. I don't have the strength to carry that kind of ache. It's no guarantee either with Garrus, but I can fool myself into thinking there's a chance that he'll be there right to the end.

Maybe it's just me but I still see it as he is an alien so he doesn't think like a human.  Even though I know that Bioware are human developers I still don't feel the need to apply any human logic to it.It's a  science fiction video game, and that's how I look at it. Also there was a discussion in the old thread that maybe the hanar taught Thane to think this way so he wouldn't feel guilty. He wouldn't have made a very good assassin if he felt guilt all the time.

I never thought Shepard was a replacement. I just think some people have a hard time with the fact that he loved someone else before Shepard. That he had a life before he met her.

The fact that he was dying was never a problem for me. I think that just because he's dying he still desereves love, and happiness in the time he has left. Even though he may die I'm still willing to take that chance. I just love Thanes character and romance to much not to. Also I never really thought Bioware would let him die. Not without at least giving us the option to save him.

Modifié par JECWSU, 12 octobre 2011 - 05:09 .

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Plakto wrote...

Friends, Plakto is going to handle this like a grown up. Mark your calendars.

To begin, Sir and or Madam, this is a Thane fan thread. If you personally had something aganist Thane, his romance, his character, etc - nobody stuck a flag out there and demanded to come in here and be a jerk to us. Furthermore, you read through no less than  several posts - several in a character that you are clearly displeased with,  to find that quote and flame us. I am going to poletly ask you - WHY in the hopes that you are not a troll and hoenstly asked these questions so that someone can answer them.

Secondly, about Thane and his "logic"...I don't think you've completely understand and accept the scope of what "alien" means. it means that he's different on a fundamental level. He may have characteristics and traits that we will understand, a million more than we will not. This is where we pull out our big commander Shepard underroos and accept that just because we disagree or it is beyond the scope of our understanding with it - dosen't make something "wrong," "evil" or 'bad." mark it up as a culture difference, he being an alien and all, and move on.

Finally, No. Shepard will not replace Irikah. ever. "siha" can be loosley translated as "valkyrie", whereas Irikah may have had a higher pedestal in his life OR it may mean she had a differnt one. we are never given evidence as to what title Irikah had, if she had one at all. That much of his backstory isn't revealled to us and we are wrong to make assumptions for the sake of hating a character - but i DO HAVE a question for you - do you have two parents? That is, one than one parent? Their genders are irrlevant here - it's that you love BOTH you parents equally and they both have the same title in your life. YOU LOVE THEM BOTH THE SAME, they don't compete with one another for your affections. Consider Shepad and Irikah as they same, he loves them both.

nobody is playing second fiddle to another. Garrus is more your style, and for that - more power to you.

I do apologize. My intention was not to slander Thane in any way. Thane is a favorite of mine and I wanted to explain why I disagree with the complaints about Thane. I was offering an argument in favor of him actually.
I've done a horrible job expressing this opinion and for that, I am sorry that you think I am complaining about this character.

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JECWSU wrote...

I still can't apply human logic to it. It's a video game and that's how I look at it. Also there was a discussion in the old thread that maybe the hanar taught Thane to think this way so he wouldn't feel guilty. He wouldn't have made a very good assassin if he felt guilt all the time.

True, same thought I had. No need for me then.

I never thought Shepard was a replacement. I just think some people have a hard time with the fact that he loved someone else before Shepard. That he had a life before he met her.

That's why? Oh.

The fact that he was dying was never a problem for me. I think that just because he's dying he still desereves love, and happiness in the time he has left. Even though he may die I'm still willing to take that chance. I just love Thanes character and romance to much not to. Also I never really thought Bioware would let him die. Not without at least giving us the option to save him.

You're a stronger person than I am. And a far more selfless.
Thank you for your answers

[Plakto]

PrimalEden wrote...

Plakto wrote...

(BIG QUOTES HERE)

I do apologize. My intention was not to slander Thane in any way. Thane is a favorite of mine and I wanted to explain why I disagree with the complaints about Thane. I was offering an argument in favor of him actually.
I've done a horrible job expressing this opinion and for that, I am sorry that you think I am complaining about this character.

LOL, you and I are the same.  I have a terrible time communicating myself, no apology necessary. I;'ve made more than a few enemies here because of it.  It was meant one way and came out the other? No bid deal and no hurt feelings. Welcome to the Thane worship thread

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@MeiMei
You are kind. I never intended any malice towards Thane lovers and wanted to give an opinion of my own about the character.
Cannot really give much new insight since you all have the reason for why Thane has his philosophy of body/mind and when a person is responsible. Rather ignorant of me to assume that you all have not discussed it at great length.
It's just that much of what Thane was raised in reminds me of Thailand and how young children at the age of 3 are trained for Muay Thai Kickboxing. Much care is taken to not damage their young bodies and by the time they are adults, they are exemplary fighters of incredible strength, speed and stamina.
While it would be considered cruel to place bets on them in the ring, it's a popular practice for some families as it's the only way to gain a reasonable living. A way to survive like the way the Hanar must compete with other races. The Hanar and the Thailand familiies are similar in the care they take to hone the training of their children, for their children are the reason they can survive. That's what I meant when an alien culture Bioware created is closer to a human mindset than expected.

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@Plakto
Thank you as well. It's a relief that you're not angry with me anymore.
Good to know that Thane has people not afraid to defend him.

[Fiery Phoenix]

While we're at it, I figured you guys might want to read something.

Below is a two-part article written by Chris L'Etoile, Thane's writer. He explains how many things in Mass Effect came to be and covers the whole alien-human topic to a degree. Quite a bit of what Thane says in-game is reflected in this article.

Click Here

Some of you might have read it already as it was posted in the old thread. I think it's fascinating.