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Thinking about the impact, not only physically but psychologicaly and emotionally, that Thane has, it brings so many elements of poetry to the forefront. One of the best poems I that comes to mind when I am playing ME2 and interacting with Thane is by Pablo Neruda.

"I love you without knowing how, or when, or from where. I love you simply, without problems or pride: I love you in this way because I do not know any other way of loving but this, in which there there is no I or you, so intimate that your hand upon my chest is my hand, so intimate what when I fall asleep your eyes close."

It's that intimacy the always pulls me in. It's the quiet, calm assurance he has. He loves Shepard but not in the grand spectacle that love can be but in a silent yet simple way. He simply loves her.

Thane as a character is amazing. There are so many layers and so many aspects that have gone into his creation that he almost seems a piece of art versus a character is a game. So complex yet so simple.

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Mei Mei wrote...

Thinking about the impact, not only physically but psychologicaly and emotionally, that Thane has, it brings so many elements of poetry to the forefront. One of the best poems I that comes to mind when I am playing ME2 and interacting with Thane is by Pablo Neruda.

"I love you without knowing how, or when, or from where. I love you simply, without problems or pride: I love you in this way because I do not know any other way of loving but this, in which there there is no I or you, so intimate that your hand upon my chest is my hand, so intimate what when I fall asleep your eyes close."

It's that intimacy the always pulls me in. It's the quiet, calm assurance he has. He loves Shepard but not in the grand spectacle that love can be but in a silent yet simple way. He simply loves her.

Thane as a character is amazing. There are so many layers and so many aspects that have gone into his creation that he almost seems a piece of art versus a character is a game. So complex yet so simple.

What I find saddening is how misunderstood Thane as a character seems to be; a lot of people unfortunately don't see him the way you, I and perhaps all of his fans do. There is something about him that is so amazingly compelling, something you can't find in other characters.

The reason I find his romance so special is because it makes me feel humble, down-to-earth and simple. You said it yourself: love in a simple way, in a way such that it can hardly be misinterpreted. It's there; it's just not screaming out loud that it is. I think that's a wonderful and significant side to Thane's romantic subplot. It goes smoothly, evenly, and is very fitting to his character. Even from Shepard's perspective, it can never be wrong, in my opinion. You can roleplay your Shepard any way you wish but you can't ever feel that romancing Thane is out of place for your Shepard.

I don't really know how else to put it. All I know is that I absolutely applaud Mr. L'Etoile for his ingenuity and well-balanced style of writing. We will miss him in ME3.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 14 octobre 2011 - 04:52 .


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Fiery Phoenix wrote...

What I find saddening is how misunderstood Thane as a character seems to be; a lot of people unfortunately don't see him the way you, I and perhaps all of his fans do. There is something about him that is so amazingly compelling, something you can't find in other characters.


Thane isn't for everyone. It's not a coincedence that most of the people in this thread seem to fall into the quiet, reserved, bookish type. (correct me if you're a loud, brash go-getter) I'm not saying you need to appreciate poetry and philosophy in order to appreciate Thane, but if you think poetry is just "a bunch of flowery words for sissies", (something i've heard many times myself) Thane may just be a sissy poured into a leather outfit. He clearly was not designed with the "shoot guns and bang chicks" crowd in mind. I've noticed that those people tend to dislike Thane quite a bit, only because he doesn't "fit" them.

Oh well. Their loss.

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Indeed, Shep. I've noticed the same. Having an appreciation for poetry and philosophy does seem to factor in quite significantly but is ultimately unnecessary. This still nevertheless explains the hate Thane gets from the "other" type. Image IPB

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It boggles my mind when people cite Thane's "abandonment" of Kolyat as a reason to hate him.

Think about it. People who had a thing against Thane, but were too scared to go after him, instead went after his family, killed Irikah. If he had stayed with Kolyat, Kolyat still would have been a target.

Sure, it was probably a little... irresponsible of Thane to have a family, because family is always the target enemies go after, but you can't exactly blame him for wanting a family, and being hopeful and happy enough that keeping his two lives separate would be enough to protect them.

In addition to not wanting Kolyat to follow in his footsteps, it was a safety thing. Distance was a continuous necessity.

Modifié par Asenza, 14 octobre 2011 - 06:21 .


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Mei Mei wrote...

Thinking about the impact, not only physically but psychologicaly and emotionally, that Thane has, it brings so many elements of poetry to the forefront. One of the best poems I that comes to mind when I am playing ME2 and interacting with Thane is by Pablo Neruda.

"I love you without knowing how, or when, or from where. I love you simply, without problems or pride: I love you in this way because I do not know any other way of loving but this, in which there there is no I or you, so intimate that your hand upon my chest is my hand, so intimate what when I fall asleep your eyes close."

It's that intimacy the always pulls me in. It's the quiet, calm assurance he has. He loves Shepard but not in the grand spectacle that love can be but in a silent yet simple way. He simply loves her.

Thane as a character is amazing. There are so many layers and so many aspects that have gone into his creation that he almost seems a piece of art versus a character is a game. So complex yet so simple.

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You guys are ace!

And we noticed earlier that a lot of Thane fans have an interest in the English language and/or philosophy, I know I certainly do. He is an ethically and morally intriguing character, whilst also being extremely dedicated to Shepard. He literally gives all of himself to her, and I find that one of the most appealing things about the romance arc.

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Mei Mei wrote...

Thinking about the impact, not only physically but psychologicaly and emotionally, that Thane has, it brings so many elements of poetry to the forefront. One of the best poems I that comes to mind when I am playing ME2 and interacting with Thane is by Pablo Neruda.

"I love you without knowing how, or when, or from where. I love you simply, without problems or pride: I love you in this way because I do not know any other way of loving but this, in which there there is no I or you, so intimate that your hand upon my chest is my hand, so intimate what when I fall asleep your eyes close."

It's that intimacy the always pulls me in. It's the quiet, calm assurance he has. He loves Shepard but not in the grand spectacle that love can be but in a silent yet simple way. He simply loves her.

Thane as a character is amazing. There are so many layers and so many aspects that have gone into his creation that he almost seems a piece of art versus a character is a game. So complex yet so simple.

D'aww Image IPB

You guys are ace!

And we noticed earlier that a lot of Thane fans have an interest in the English language and/or philosophy, I know I certainly do. He is an ethically and morally intriguing character, whilst also being extremely dedicated to Shepard. He literally gives all of himself to her, and I find that one of the most appealing things about the romance arc.


We had this poem read at our wedding - and the bolded part is on my hubby's wedding band in ASCII binary! 

I hate to burst the bubble, but I'm definitely not a philosphy person, although I appreciate it.  And I am a little louder/outgoing than the quiet, reserved type.  However, I appreciate all the arts even though I am not great at them myself. 
I'm a numbers gal, along with being a giant nerd/geek.  And @Tasha - I wondered if you were using Tasha Yar - everyone loved her!

Modifié par Cosmochyck, 14 octobre 2011 - 09:25 .


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I've just finished my second playthrough with my main Shepard. I have one Shepard that romanced Thane, one that will romance no one, and one who is romancing Ashley, Miranda, Jack and Tali >.>

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It's not a coincedence that most of the people in this thread seem to fall into the quiet, reserved, bookish type. (correct me if you're a loud, brash go-getter)


Hey there! Outgoing, chatty adventurer here!
I have noticed that throughout the fandom there are a lot of really intelligent Thane fans. In NSAS for instance, there are quite a few English and Psychology intellects.
Whereas I don't have much interest for literature at all and I think I'm more suited for exploring the world than exploring the mind! XD

Modifié par hanar05, 14 octobre 2011 - 09:51 .


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@ Cosmochyk, everyone calls me Tash/Tasha. But my parents allowed me to choose myself if I wanted the full Tasha Yar. So there you go, being a geek is inherited! :D

I'm pretty social in RL, but if I have a computer in front of me then I am very anti-social! I go to a lot of LAN parties too, so not so good! xD

But I can see why Thane fans are usually for the more reserved, quiet types. He says himself that he doesn't interact with the crew and he has never talked to anyone about his wife. Although, when he talks about the hanar giving their soulnames, it does seem he had some very close hanar friends.

He seems like the type to be very close to a select few, as opposed to having many friends.

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hanar05 wrote...


Shepenwepet wrote...
It's not a coincedence that most of the people in this thread seem to fall into the quiet, reserved, bookish type. (correct me if you're a loud, brash go-getter)


Hey there! Outgoing, chatty adventurer here!


I'm that way when I'm with people of like mind. Nerding out with friends is fantastic. I'm not overly social, but haven't reached the "Get Off My Lawn" stage quite yet. Although I do look quite fetching in a thick winter housecoat and bunny slippers while waving a pitchfork. Image IPB

Speaking of socializing, how many of you are planning on playing multiplayer? I would love to, but sadly the only internet I can get out here in The Deep Woods is a weird cousin of satellite internet, which only works when it wants to concerning online gaming.

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The way I see it, one has to have friends to play multiplayer. Being generally bereft of both friends and friends that play Mass Effect...*

I'll have to play with my sister.

*- Joke. I just haven't any friends who play Mass Effect. The ones who like shooting games are so entrenched in Halo/Gears of War I hardly see them.

I've an Xbox if anyone's interested.

Modifié par Asenza, 15 octobre 2011 - 02:30 .


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Still alive.

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And I still think Thane's the bees knees!  <3

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I'll throw my hand up again for "online friend" for ME3 playing! I'm intrigued to try it and it's much better to play games with people that already know the backstory and enjoy the franchise!

EDIT...I'm an Xbox player!

Modifié par Cosmochyck, 15 octobre 2011 - 01:41 .


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I am playing. I have a team assembled and we are ready. Can't wait.

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I'm willing as well. we Thane fans can stick together. lol

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 I am also willing to stick my hand out for anyone who wants to play ;)
Just as long as its Xbox. I don't do computers :lol:

A little screenie for Thane <3


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I did get this picture while he was talking with my Shepard . He looks a little mad don't you think? But he is still wonderful:wub:

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^ I think he looks sexy as always ;)

Xbox over here as well! I'll probably be playing with my boyfriend, and the rest of the team is up to fate!

I wonder if it's possible to have a team completely comprised of Drell teammates...

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kaimanaMM wrote...

Still alive.

*snip*

And I still think Thane's the bees knees!  <3

Oh my, it's Kai! Welcome back!
...although I thought I had told you to never disappear like that again! :devil:

On-topic: I have no plans of touching the multiplayer before I've had my share with the campaign. Still, if anyone wants to add me, go right ahead. My gamertag is Evolved Force. Aside from Modern Warfare and Rainbow Six: Vegas, I rarely play online multiplayer and have not for quite some time now. But I can always enjoy good company with any of you.

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Mei Mei wrote...

Thinking about the impact, not only physically but psychologicaly and emotionally, that Thane has, it brings so many elements of poetry to the forefront. One of the best poems I that comes to mind when I am playing ME2 and interacting with Thane is by Pablo Neruda.

"I love you without knowing how, or when, or from where. I love you simply, without problems or pride: I love you in this way because I do not know any other way of loving but this, in which there there is no I or you, so intimate that your hand upon my chest is my hand, so intimate what when I fall asleep your eyes close."

It's that intimacy the always pulls me in. It's the quiet, calm assurance he has. He loves Shepard but not in the grand spectacle that love can be but in a silent yet simple way. He simply loves her.

Thane as a character is amazing. There are so many layers and so many aspects that have gone into his creation that he almost seems a piece of art versus a character is a game. So complex yet so simple.

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I agree. Really well put and illustrates my view of him exceptionally well.

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Do you guys think he will be wearing something different or be wearing the same thing. I have this feeling Bioware is going to be lazy and just keep him in the same outfit.

However, they are mentioning drell for multiplayer but have yet to show them. Maybe there is a new outfit the entire drell species wears.

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Not expecting him to wear something different. That is, I'm not expecting to see him wearing anything other than a jacket, whether it be the same jacket from ME2 or a different one.

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Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Not expecting him to wear something different. That is, I'm not expecting to see him wearing anything other than a jacket, whether it be the same jacket from ME2 or a different one.


If they just give him the red and black outfit without the glasses and maybe with the piercings I'll die happy.

Modifié par Asenza, 15 octobre 2011 - 04:01 .


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Lot of Xboxers here! Feel free to add me as well. Gamertag is the same as my screen name - Shepenwepet.
Apparently Shepenwepet was an ancient Egyptian princess. I actually borrowed the name from a PS2 (and GC, and XBox) game called Gladius, a gladiator-themed tactical rpg in which Shepenwepet was one of four scarab beetles that, along with four scorpions, routinely handed me my team's collective arse. When I finally beat that little tournament, (Insect Ze, if you're familiar, sadly Gladius wasn't a popular game, so it's unlikely) I adopted the name, because I liked the way it sounded, and Shep was a worthy foe.
Sorry for the little ramble there. Have a Thane.

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...that's the scene I demanded a paragon interrupt hug for. And I don't care if you're roleplaying as Lord or Lady Evil of Evilton, if you pick "Get on with it" on that dialogue wheel, I will have words.

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Asenza wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Not expecting him to wear something different. That is, I'm not expecting to see him wearing anything other than a jacket, whether it be the same jacket from ME2 or a different one.

If they just give him the red and black outfit without the glasses and maybe with the piercings I'll die happy.

Ironically, Thane has trouble distinguishing black from red. :lol: