Please convince me to side with the templars, I just can't do it...
I am playing a reaver/probably templar...
My sister is a mage, it is not the circle's fault but anders, Meridith is f***ing insane... I just can't convince myself to anull an innocent-ish (so many blood mages lol) circle of my sister's kind.
Anybody able to help convince me? Any ideas? lol
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 08:26
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If you don't want to annul the Circle of Kirkwall, then why side with Meredith? If you want the Achievements from siding with the templars and Meredith, then simply make a character to go through the storyline and exclude your sister from the situation.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 08:28
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Save game before leaving to witness the spectacle (or boot up an autosave from just before it happened if possible, do it for the trophies, load game again, side with mages, secretly tell Meredith to go f*ck herself with a cactus.
The sad part is that both sides only make a modicum of sense instead of a full one because they were just rushed.
If this is your first playthrough, I won't spoil anything for you.
The sad part is that both sides only make a modicum of sense instead of a full one because they were just rushed.
If this is your first playthrough, I won't spoil anything for you.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 08:28
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There is no justification, side with the mage man.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 08:29
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I have the same problem - I *try* going pro-Templar, but I can't murder innocent people. Heck, I can't murder morally corrupt people. Unless my life is directly threatened I have a hard time with it all.
Maybe if the Circle dropped down on us in ninja waves.
Maybe if the Circle dropped down on us in ninja waves.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 08:30
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I want to see what happens... Plus I am a templar
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 08:31
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Then you gotta bite the bullet bluebullets 
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 08:33
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The templar ending is much more coherent. But... Hawke still leaves Kirkwall for some reason.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 08:33
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Some have argued that annulling the Circle in Kirkwall is a way of preventing a mage revolution from spreading and throwing the ill-prepared mages of Thedas into a war they have little chance of winning.
A heinous act for the sake of the greater good, if you will.
A heinous act for the sake of the greater good, if you will.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 08:36
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Alistairlover94 wrote...
The templar ending is much more coherent. But... Hawke still leaves Kirkwall for some reason.
Sadly we have to assume some mages escaped and warned the other Circles because we didn't see enough of the RoA. If none escaped, then I guess some Templars have very loose lips.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 08:37
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Well if it helps you don't have to kill Bethany on the templar ending.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 08:40
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bluebullets wrote...
I want to see what happens... Plus I am a templar
If you simply want to see the scenes, you can check out YouTube. If you need the example of a templar who was capable of going against the rules, look at Ser Carver or Ser Thrask. I still can't believe we lost Ser Thrask to that asinine quest.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 08:44
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I'm having the same problem. I can understand supporting freedom for mages and I can understand maintaining the Circle in its current form, but I feel like my Hawke would have to be a sociopath to support Meredith in her effort to kill all mages. And not just a sociopath, but a sociopath with a deep-seeded aversion to magic despite being a mage or a mage's sibling.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 08:45
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bluebullets wrote...
I want to see what happens... Plus I am a templar
Then just do it.
Their are bloodmages in the circle (not a lot but some) they can cause damage to civilians. Have your Templar consider their threat higher than the risk of setting a bunch of mages loose (you can also spare some mages that surrender so you don't have to kill them all).
Or give yourself some other RP reasons. It's not really that hard.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 08:45
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LobselVith8 wrote...
If you simply want to see the scenes, you can check out YouTube. If you need the example of a templar who was capable of going against the rules, look at Ser Carver or Ser Thrask. I still can't believe we lost Ser Thrask to that asinine quest.
Tell me about it. I'd derail the thread if I said exactly why, but I was so pissed at losing Thrask I wanted to throw a cactus at someone.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 08:46
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A blood mage kills your mother and is though that the guy who did this was helped by orsino. Also more than half the enemies you face on the game are blood mages doing horrible things. What more do you need?bluebullets wrote...
Please convince me to side with the templars, I just can't do it...
I am playing a reaver/probably templar...
My sister is a mage, it is not the circle's fault but anders, Meridith is f***ing insane... I just can't convince myself to anull an innocent-ish (so many blood mages lol) circle of my sister's kind.
Anybody able to help convince me? Any ideas? lol
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 08:49
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Personally, I prefer the templar ending, but it's because of the extra little bit of Cullen goodness. <3
Beliefs-wise, I'd probably side with the mages every time, but they are sincerely messed up in Kirkwall, probably due to the thin veil. Hence all of the blood magic and demons.
I do understand Meredith's plight. If you side with the templars, you get to have conversations with Meredith that you don't otherwise; which help you understand where she is coming from, and why she is the way that she is. It's like Anders said, at least Meredith is sincere in her convictions, and believes that she is helping the city.
Plus, siding with the templars is the only way you can become Viscount. I'm just sayin'.
Beliefs-wise, I'd probably side with the mages every time, but they are sincerely messed up in Kirkwall, probably due to the thin veil. Hence all of the blood magic and demons.
I do understand Meredith's plight. If you side with the templars, you get to have conversations with Meredith that you don't otherwise; which help you understand where she is coming from, and why she is the way that she is. It's like Anders said, at least Meredith is sincere in her convictions, and believes that she is helping the city.
Plus, siding with the templars is the only way you can become Viscount. I'm just sayin'.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 08:54
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Alistairlover94 wrote...
The templar ending is much more coherent. But... Hawke still leaves Kirkwall for some reason.
You mean the pro-templar ending where the victory of the templars in the Right of Annulment shows the mages across the continent that the templars can be defied is more coherent?
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LobselVith8 wrote...
If you simply want to see the scenes, you can check out YouTube. If you need the example of a templar who was capable of going against the rules, look at Ser Carver or Ser Thrask. I still can't believe we lost Ser Thrask to that asinine quest.
Tell me about it. I'd derail the thread if I said exactly why, but I was so pissed at losing Thrask I wanted to throw a cactus at someone.
Thrask was a great and interesting character. I would have liked to see Hawke working with him against a common enemy. Another opportunity squandered.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 08:57
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Also agreed about that being asinine. I really should've been able to lop Grace's head off on sight.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 09:02
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steph285 wrote...
bluebullets wrote...
Please convince me to side with the templars, I just can't do it...
I am playing a reaver/probably templar...
My sister is a mage, it is not the circle's fault but anders, Meridith is f***ing insane... I just can't convince myself to anull an innocent-ish (so many blood mages lol) circle of my sister's kind.
Anybody able to help convince me? Any ideas? lol
A blood mage kills your mother and is though that the guy who did this was helped by orsino. Also more than half the enemies you face on the game are blood mages doing horrible things. What more do you need?
The OP seems to have an issue with killing hundreds of men, women, and children who are innocent of what Anders did, and in addition who are innocent are innocent of the actions of criminals outside the Gallows and the actions of one, single man.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 09:07
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LobselVith8 wrote...
steph285 wrote...
bluebullets wrote...
Please convince me to side with the templars, I just can't do it...
I am playing a reaver/probably templar...
My sister is a mage, it is not the circle's fault but anders, Meridith is f***ing insane... I just can't convince myself to anull an innocent-ish (so many blood mages lol) circle of my sister's kind.
Anybody able to help convince me? Any ideas? lol
A blood mage kills your mother and is though that the guy who did this was helped by orsino. Also more than half the enemies you face on the game are blood mages doing horrible things. What more do you need?
The OP seems to have an issue with killing thousands of men, women, and children who are innocent of what Anders did, and in addition who are innocent are innocent of the actions of criminals outside the Gallows and the actions of one, single man.
First off there's no proof of these "thousands" you get a codex saying "hundreds".
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 09:09
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Meridith attacks you even if you help her? What the hell?
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 09:09
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You can spare inocent mages if you side with the Templars, and it makes sense. Not like the horrible mage ending that was justThe Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
Alistairlover94 wrote...
The templar ending is much more coherent. But... Hawke still leaves Kirkwall for some reason.
Sadly we have to assume some mages escaped and warned the other Circles because we didn't see enough of the RoA. If none escaped, then I guess some Templars have very loose lips.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 09:10
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It makes more sense then the hack job they did with Orsino if you side with the mages. Plus not all people who side with the Templars agree with Meredith, or don't want to kill her.bluebullets wrote...
Meridith attacks you even if you help her? What the hell?
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