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Powers: As long as they don't dump JT's Barrier skills in ME3, I don't care what skills they add to him. The lack of toughness is what I don't like about most of the other squad members. Lose the barrier spamming which was totally Bioware's fault for not fixing (Grunt and Legion also have this problem but get a free pass by the haters because they hate JT for other reasons and use this as an excuse IMO). Judging from Garrus's skill set in the ME3 demos he will probably still have Pull.

Weapons: An assault rifle isn't needed. All he needs is a long range shotgun option like the geth pulse (which is better than any AR) and he's good to go.

Ammo Power: Fine the way it is. Inferno Ammo has no match.


When Grunt spams Fortification, all you're losing is Concussive Shot.  And when Legion spams Geth Shield Boost, all you're losing is the highly situational AI Hacking and the Combat Drone, which possesses an absurdly long cooldown.  But when Jacob spams Barrier, you're losing access to the quickly recharging Pull, useful for starting Warp bombs, nailing area staggers, and shutting down entire groups of enemies at once.

It is my theory that this might play a role in the decision some players make when deciding to complain about Jacob while giving Grunt and Legion a free pass.


Interesting theory. If one doesn't consider Concussive Blast very useful for crowd control then yeah that's ALL you're losing. As for Legion, some like Combat drone despite the long recovery and want access to it as soon as it's available.

Jack makes a better pull bot anyway. Her much faster cooldown would make her a better choice for someone interested in casting warp bombs and using area pull often. Barrier and Inferno is what makes JT stand out from Jack. Take Barrier away and JT is almost obsolete except for squad incendiary which is lame for crowd control because your squadmates can only attack one enemy at once (Who cares if only one enemy stunned from incendiary?). The far superior Inferno ammo is best utilized by a tank (with barrier) who can last long in fire fights and even survive getting in close occasionally.

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Hey what are Jack's prerequisties for Pull? Just curious

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Some Dude wrote...

Hey what are Jack's prerequisties for Pull? Just curious


Lvl 2 Shockwave I believe.

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I remember when I first started to really like Jacob, I went hunting for fanart.

I ended up only finding Thane and Garrus fanart ><"

And I typed MASS EFFECT 2 JACOB!

Silly artists and their misleading tags I presume...

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CC-Tron wrote...

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Hey what are Jack's prerequisties for Pull? Just curious


Lvl 2 Shockwave I believe.


Hmmm...
I'll have to test your Jacob build on Insanity, I've played with lazuli's and found it really effective, but I'll reserve judgement until I try it out.

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I remember when I first started to really like Jacob, I went hunting for fanart.

I ended up only finding Thane and Garrus fanart ><"

And I typed MASS EFFECT 2 JACOB!

Silly artists and their misleading tags I presume...

Google is evil, I looked up Dick's Sporting Goods and all I got were some porn sites.

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Some Dude wrote...

CC-Tron wrote...

Some Dude wrote...

Hey what are Jack's prerequisties for Pull? Just curious


Lvl 2 Shockwave I believe.


Hmmm...
I'll have to test your Jacob build on Insanity, I've played with lazuli's and found it really effective, but I'll reserve judgement until I try it out.


Depends on your Shep's class, your play style, and which squad member you pair with JT. If you want to use JT primarily for pull and not much else than my build would not be the best for you. You'd be better off using Jack though I think.

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CC-Tron wrote...

Some Dude wrote...

CC-Tron wrote...

Some Dude wrote...

Hey what are Jack's prerequisties for Pull? Just curious


Lvl 2 Shockwave I believe.


Hmmm...
I'll have to test your Jacob build on Insanity, I've played with lazuli's and found it really effective, but I'll reserve judgement until I try it out.


Depends on your Shep's class, your play style, and which squad member you pair with JT. If you want to use JT primarily for pull and not much else than my build would not be the best for you. You'd be better off using Jack though I think.


YEah, IIRC CC-Tron's build for Jacob focuses on the combat so Inferno Ammo and Barrier is the way to go. Jack would be a better choice for Pull I agree.

I wonder, does the Mass Effect wikia still say "Players are better off using Squadmates other than Jacob because they are more useful"? <_<

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TriviaAeducan wrote...

CC-Tron wrote...

Some Dude wrote...

CC-Tron wrote...

Some Dude wrote...

Hey what are Jack's prerequisties for Pull? Just curious


Lvl 2 Shockwave I believe.


Hmmm...
I'll have to test your Jacob build on Insanity, I've played with lazuli's and found it really effective, but I'll reserve judgement until I try it out.


Depends on your Shep's class, your play style, and which squad member you pair with JT. If you want to use JT primarily for pull and not much else than my build would not be the best for you. You'd be better off using Jack though I think.


YEah, IIRC CC-Tron's build for Jacob focuses on the combat so Inferno Ammo and Barrier is the way to go. Jack would be a better choice for Pull I agree.

I wonder, does the Mass Effect wikia still say "Players are better off using Squadmates other than Jacob because they are more useful"? <_<


Exactly. My JT build is combat focused with the occasional pull opportunity. As for Wikia, I'm still SMDH. Put Miranda and JT in a heavy fire fight (with my build) and it would be easy to see JT's usefulness. He'd still be firing inferno on the enemy and she'd be quickly out of the fight in need of medigel.

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TriviaAeducan wrote...
I wonder, does the Mass Effect wikia still say "Players are better off using Squadmates other than Jacob because they are more useful"? <_<


No.  I changed that on January 23rd, if the wiki is to be believed.  To be honest, I'm surprised it hasn't been put back in there.  They are extremely resistant to change.

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Checking to give my support to Jacob (my favorite ME2 squadmate).
I setup my Jacob similar to CC-Tron, as a tank with heavy barrier, Inferno ammo.

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I want Jacob to have his Galaxy abilities.Get a badass cutscene and lets see talk about the corsairs that was the most interesting thing and Bioware totally ignored it.

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The whole corsair thing is a huge hole in JT's backstory, I've been considering writing a fanfic about his time in the corsairs, but I've been kind of busy.

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I want to ask something from Jacob fans. Do you think that Jacob will be given an important role in ME3?

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@ S.A.K.
Not really sure, as he hasn't been talked about much by Bioware, I think he will probably get a mission or two dealing with Cerberus, but other than that not much is certain.

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S.A.K wrote...

I want to ask something from Jacob fans. Do you think that Jacob will be given an important role in ME3?


As Some Dude theorized, it is likely that he will feature in a mission or two involving Cerberus.  In addition to this, I imagine he will join those Shepards that romanced him at some point during the game for a romantic interlude.

I've been toying with the idea that Bioware will throw a lot of old friends at us to be used in the final mission.  Maybe Jacob will be with us at the end.

I just don't see him ever getting as much of the spotlight as Liara, though.

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S.A.K wrote...

I want to ask something from Jacob fans. Do you think that Jacob will be given an important role in ME3?


I do. I'm sure he's either going to be a squad member or have a large role in the cerberus plot.

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saMOOrai182 wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

I want to ask something from Jacob fans. Do you think that Jacob will be given an important role in ME3?


I do. I'm sure he's either going to be a squad member or have a large role in the cerberus plot.


Same here.

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Ok thanks for the answers. You guys should vote for him in this poll. He's getting least likes from all the Squad mate and could really use some love

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Ok thanks for the answers. You guys should vote for him in this poll. He's getting least likes from all the Squad mate and could really use some love


You got it Skipper! Please post your results on this thread when your done, I'm sure we would love to discuss your findings.

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Sand King wrote...

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My bad.
Here's A topic though: I remember back in the early days of the old thread that many thought that Jacob was a good character, but he needed to be "fixed" to appeal to more people. Any ideas on how he could be improved in ME3?

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Jacob with his ME:G abilities = perfect squad mate.


Jacob with his original ME2 powerset would have been near perfect squad mate. He originally had overload and warp. They were given to another squad mate though <_<

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Jacob with his original ME2 powerset would have been near perfect squad mate. He originally had overload and warp. They were given to another squad mate though <_<

AR & Heavy Weapons/Overload/Pull would give Jacob one hell of an advantage over other squad mates.

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Sand King wrote...

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Jacob with his original ME2 powerset would have been near perfect squad mate. He originally had overload and warp. They were given to another squad mate though <_<

AR & Heavy Weapons/Overload/Pull would give Jacob one hell of an advantage over other squad mates.


Why would the devs intentionally gimp Jacob's power set. I mean, they could have given Jacob overload and Miranda Warp to balance the two, because Miranda was an OP Squadmate.

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Yeah, I'm not to sure why Bioware nerf'd Jacob. Would it have so bad if he had his original power set.

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Interesting, S.A.K's poll shows that most seem to think JT is okay at least and not as hated as I thought.