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[Asenza]

Jackster94 wrote...

Everyone at one point feels they love someone but ends up not working out, also he was about to go on a suicide mission he might of been infatuated with shepard not in love

You could say the same thing about Miranda, Tali, Jack, Garrus.. etc.

Jacob didn't act infatuated. And even assuming it was infatuation and not love, well he would do the honest thing and tell Shepard that. Not **** ME3 spoilers pm me for info******. What he did is kinda deliberate.

Modifié par Asenza, 10 novembre 2011 - 11:39 .

[Jackster94]

Really from the dialogue and tone of it it felt a bit like a fling . To be honest femshep getting her heart crushed would really make her character a lot more interesting

[Sjaddix]

Hmm my interest is piqued, i have tried not to read this leaked information mostly because i have been busy and a was too busy reading about Penn State (Absolutely Sickening) but can someone PM me a good place to read up on these spoilers.

Although I must admit character assassination does not surprise.

[Asenza]

Jackster94 wrote...

Really from the dialogue and tone of it it felt a bit like a fling . To be honest femshep getting her heart crushed would really make her character a lot more interesting

Femshep getting her heart crushed over Thane and his *******ME3 spoilers I've pieced together from talk about hull-breach leak that I'm praying aren't true******* is interesting enough.

And that drags up the second issue. If femshep can get her heart crushed (when Jacob is the only one who will actually break up with her if she gets too pushy) why shouldn't maleshep get his heart crushed by a stunning reversal of character in ME3?

From what i've heard, no one else's LI goes off and *** ME3 spoilers, etc, etc, pm me, all that****.

It's just Jacob. 'Cause someone up there doesn't like him. Or didn't want to be stuck writing a human character. Or was angry they didn't get to work on Liara or Garrus or Tali, and vented their frustration on Jacob.

Modifié par Asenza, 10 novembre 2011 - 11:44 .

[RPGmom28]

The thing is, though, that she already got her heart crushed on Horizon when Kaidan called her a traitor and left her standing there.

[Jackster94]

It character assassination is too far , I think a lot of people feel betrayed and hurt by him and in all honesty if they convey those emotions in Shepard it will just enrich her character . I like the fact that some romance won't be happy ever after

[Asenza]

Jackster94 wrote...

It character assassination is too far , I think a lot of people feel betrayed and hurt by him and in all honesty if they convey those emotions in Shepard it will just enrich her character . I like the fact that some romance won't be happy ever after

Fine. But if Jacob's romance has to go down in flames, all the other LI's romances should go down in flames also. And I don't mean by the LI dying. Thane might die of Kepral's but he won't **** jacob spoilers ME3 pm me*****.

I haven't gone through the leaked documents myself, had a friend tell me since she didn't mind ruining things for herself, but from what I dared let her tell me about, no other LI gets treated like that.

Didn't one of the devs say that all romances would be treated equally?

Modifié par Asenza, 10 novembre 2011 - 11:57 .

[Jackster94]

Equal as in all will get there time in the spotlight. For example ( this is made up) shep helping tali with the geth conflict. And in this case shep helping jacob SPOILERS protect the mother of his child .the romances are treated equally but don't need to have the same ending . Jacobs story although heartbreaking has the potential to be a amazing story

[Asenza]

Jackster94 wrote...

Equal as in all will get there time in the spotlight. For example ( this is made up) shep helping tali with the geth conflict. And in this case shep helping jacob SPOILERS protect the mother of his child .the romances are treated equally but don't need to have the same ending . Jacobs story although heartbreaking has the potential to be a amazing story

Character derailment isn't amazing. It's not heartbreaking, it's nauseating. It's depressing, completely out of character and a complete mess, and I can't imagine any circumstances that could make Jacob **** spoilers, spoilers, all around**** without it being a complete retcon of his character.

It's also not "equal" if Jacob does something that has a negative effect on his romantic relationship with Shepard when no other LI does that.

Modifié par Asenza, 11 novembre 2011 - 12:43 .

[jeweledleah]

Jackster94 wrote...

Really from the dialogue and tone of it it felt a bit like a fling . To be honest femshep getting her heart crushed would really make her character a lot more interesting

did we play the same romance?

"you're getting to me Shepard.  see, this is why i like having you around, you get me.  I love you."  Even Garrusmance doesn't feel like a fling and it certainly starts out as one.  Jacob is one of the most serious sounding romances in ME2.

femshep is as interesting of a character as you make her.  same applies to maleshep.  you know, them being player characters and all.

and jacob's story is not heartbreaking. its like developers decided that what fans jacobmance has are not enough to justify writing separate situation for them.  they just took what they wrote for non romance added a few extra conversation options and called it a day.

Modifié par jeweledleah, 11 novembre 2011 - 12:30 .

[Jackster94]

He was infatuated , he was about to go on the suicide mission. And yes it is the player character but that doesn't mean you can get what you want. I like the fact that my character is going to feel hurt and betrayed . Be so interesting the squad banter when your helping him

[jeweledleah]

Jackster94 wrote...

He was infatuated , he was about to go on the suicide mission. And yes it is the player character but that doesn't mean you can get what you want. I like the fact that my character is going to feel hurt and betrayed . Be so interesting the squad banter when your helping him

right, you keep telling yourself that.

but even if he was infatuated (which it didn't exactly look like, becasue Jacob pre ME3 means what he says and says what he means)  he woudln't have gone behind femshep's back like that.  if he had figured out that it wasn't working out, she would have been told BEFORE anything else has happened.

[ADLegend21]

Jackster94 wrote...

Equal as in all will get there time in the spotlight. For example ( this is made up) shep helping tali with the geth conflict. And in this case shep helping jacob SPOILERS protect the mother of his child .the romances are treated equally but don't need to have the same ending . Jacobs story although heartbreaking has the potential to be a amazing story

respectfully disagree. Taht's a kick ot eh taco for all the femsheps and a kick to the nuts for the modded malesheps that romanced him. Taht's worse than anything that's ahppened in the ME series so far because he's become a compeltely different person from ME2.

[Labrev]

Eh, the more I think about it the less I believe they're actually going to do this though.


Maybe they had the idea of it, but I'll really be surprised if they roll with it. It's just going to cause such huge racial controversy IMO.

[Darc_Requiem]

Jackster94 wrote...

He was infatuated , he was about to go on the suicide mission. And yes it is the player character but that doesn't mean you can get what you want. I like the fact that my character is going to feel hurt and betrayed . Be so interesting the squad banter when your helping him

For me, it's not what happens with Jacob that annoys me. It's how it comes about. Jacob of ME:G/ME2 would have told Shepard what was going on. Going behind Shepards back is not what Jacob would do, Ronald on the other hand....

[Asenza]

Darc_Requiem wrote...

Jackster94 wrote...

He was infatuated , he was about to go on the suicide mission. And yes it is the player character but that doesn't mean you can get what you want. I like the fact that my character is going to feel hurt and betrayed . Be so interesting the squad banter when your helping him

For me, it's not what happens with Jacob that annoys me. It's how it comes about. Jacob of ME:G/ME2 would have told Shepard what was going on. Going behind Shepards back is not what Jacob would do, Ronald on the other hand....

From now on, we shall not refer to that... THING the hull-breach leak called Jacob, as Jacob. We shall call him Robert.

[Jackster94]

Remember it's a rough draft . Not saying the pot will change but Jacobs reasoning probaly will

[saMoorai]

Here's hoping his story is one of the things Bioware has changed.

If not, I'm going to be pissed.

[Asenza]

Jackster94 wrote...

Remember it's a rough draft . Not saying the pot will change but Jacobs reasoning probaly will

The entire "event" is out of character. In-character reasoning will not explain an OOC action.

[RPGmom28]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Eh, the more I think about it the less I believe they're actually going to do this though.


Maybe they had the idea of it, but I'll really be surprised if they roll with it. It's just going to cause such huge racial controversy IMO.

I have the feeling that it wasn't wholly thought through and was just put out there without considering the implications. I'd be happy to be part of telling them how suckish it is so they reverse it while there's still time.

[Collider]

Like Horizon, Jacob seems to be used as a vehicle for the player to explore other love interests.

I'm hoping that they'll only do this if you didn't romance Jacob, but in the files they make direct reference to Shepard romancing him and this happening despite that.

[jeweledleah]

Asenza wrote...

Jackster94 wrote...

Remember it's a rough draft . Not saying the pot will change but Jacobs reasoning probaly will

The entire "event" is out of character. In-character reasoning will not explain an OOC action.

"she roofied me, had her way with me and then kept my locked up and systematicaly brainwashe,d untill I developed stockholm syndrom and lost my honor and honesty? "

[Asenza]

jeweledleah wrote...

Asenza wrote...

Jackster94 wrote...

Remember it's a rough draft . Not saying the pot will change but Jacobs reasoning probaly will

The entire "event" is out of character. In-character reasoning will not explain an OOC action.

"she roofied me, had her way with me and then kept my locked up and systematicaly brainwashe,d untill I developed stockholm syndrom and lost my honor and honesty? "

Hn. Still wouldn't explain (his) blame, and all the rest... That's basically what would have had to happen though....

Modifié par Asenza, 11 novembre 2011 - 01:47 .

[jtav]

Collider wrote...

Like Horizon, Jacob seems to be used as a vehicle for the player to explore other love interests.

I'm hoping that they'll only do this if you didn't romance Jacob, but in the files they make direct reference to Shepard romancing him and this happening despite that.

But that makes no sense, given how late his mission is.

[Collider]

But that makes no sense, given how late his mission is.

What doesn't make sense?