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[SilentK]

Hmm I have a few of him that I like, I'll make sure that you can take a look at them and see if anything is to your liking =)

[Jotamide]

I guess both Jacob and Miranda will be sort of gone on ME3.

[outmane]

mrsph wrote...

Miranda's situation really doesn't compare to Jacob's (I wish they handled Jacob like they did Miranda.)

But I don't want to derail the thread with more spoilers. So I'll throw out something I've thought about. How long do you guys think The Illusive Man would have tolerated Jacob? Jacob wasn't exactly loyal to the cause and would have caused problems down the line if he thought TIM was crossing a line that he wouldn't be able to cross.

Looks to me you have that question reversed. TIM would simply have used Jacob until he wouldnt need him anymore. Im pretty sure they were never on first name basis or considered each other as collegues...

How long would Jacob have tolerated TIM? sounds more true to the character. After all he did leave the Alliance for Cerberus and is already put off by some of the stuff they did when he first meet Shepard. 


Sometimes I wonder where Jacob would put the line he wouldnt cross.. I know hes written to have a spine but I would have enjoyed seeing it first hand in mission related stuff not jsut when he tells FemShep to backoff or in the altercations with Thane and Tali.

[HolyJellyfish]

Just thought I'd throw my support in this community.

Not my LI choice, but damn if Jacob wasn't an awesome character. Probably had one of my favorite loyalty missions - not so much because it was a good fight, but the story was really interesting.

Lovely nod to Heart of Darkness. Or Apocalypse Now. Whichever you prefer. Really loved it, and it broke my heart to watch Jacob have to tie up the loose ends.

[HK-90210]

K, I'm really tired of ppl(not on here, but in other threads) talking about the supposed assassination of the Jacob romance as if it is fact. Some of you may remember my lengthy and probably boring dissertation on that whole situation in the Jacob fan group. I wanted to run the idea of starting a thread dedicated to putting down this rumor, or at least letting ppl know that it isn't 100% true.

Think this is even worth the effort, given Jacob's relative unpopualrity amoungst the ME fanbase? Or should I just shut my trap and wait for ME3 to prove these rumors wrong?

Also, if you think it is worth the effort, what is the best way to go about it? Create a threat with a LONG first post? Create a thread that links to a separate, public group to discuss it? Other?

[Asenza]

CastonFolarus wrote...

K, I'm really tired of ppl(not on here, but in other threads) talking about the supposed assassination of the Jacob romance as if it is fact. Some of you may remember my lengthy and probably boring dissertation on that whole situation in the Jacob fan group. I wanted to run the idea of starting a thread dedicated to putting down this rumor, or at least letting ppl know that it isn't 100% true.

Think this is even worth the effort, given Jacob's relative unpopualrity amoungst the ME fanbase? Or should I just shut my trap and wait for ME3 to prove these rumors wrong?

Also, if you think it is worth the effort, what is the best way to go about it? Create a threat with a LONG first post? Create a thread that links to a separate, public group to discuss it? Other?

A thread, maybe? But maybe not with a long first post- people will just skim over it.

I think this issue stems from the fact that, even with the Jacob knocked a girl up bit debunked, it does still seem that something happened with his relationship with Shepard. I know it's hard to tell from the leaked dialogue seeing as its all scrambled but why would Jacob say

SPOILERS



"Damnit Shepard I love you... loved you? Or "You expected me to wait forever?" Or "Your love is only the normandy?" Even if he doesn't cheat, well none of that sounds good.

That sounds like they had a big fight off screen. Or that Jacob, along with the rest of the LI's took amnesia pills- all the other LI's are suddenly so uncertain as to how matters stand between Shepard and them. I guess the passage of time is one thing, but surely it wasn't that long an amount of time. There's just no reason I could tell that the LI's would suddenly be uneasy about the relationship with Shepard....

Unless it's that the writers were really pushing us towards the ME1 crew. THEN I could see what they're up to...

[HK-90210]

Asenza wrote...

I think this issue stems from the fact that, even with the Jacob knocked a girl up bit debunked, it does still seem that something happened with his relationship with Shepard. I know it's hard to tell from the leaked dialogue seeing as its all scrambled but why would Jacob say

SPOILERS



"Damnit Shepard I love you... loved you? Or "You expected me to wait forever?" Or "Your love is only the normandy?" Even if he doesn't cheat, well none of that sounds good.

That sounds like they had a big fight off screen. Or that Jacob, along with the rest of the LI's took amnesia pills- all the other LI's are suddenly so uncertain as to how matters stand between Shepard and them. I guess the passage of time is one thing, but surely it wasn't that long an amount of time. There's just no reason I could tell that the LI's would suddenly be uneasy about the relationship with Shepard....

Unless it's that the writers were really pushing us towards the ME1 crew. THEN I could see what they're up to...

My best guess? The "Dammit Shepard" line probably stems from the player breaking off the relationship when they meet again in ME3. Every relationship offers that, occording to the files. When you meet up, the LI asks if you're still interested. Doesn't that line sound like somthing Jacob would say if the player decides to ditch him(douchey as that move is, IMO)?

As for the "Did you expect me to wait forever" line, that seems like what Jacob would say if you turned him down in the love scene in ME2. Knowing Jacob, he wanted to get serious, and Shepard gave him a blunt 'no', indicating to him that she wasn't all that interested. The devs have told us, and the files indicate, that every outcome of a romance is recorded. If you get to the romance scene, even if you don't 'do the deed', the game will remember. Seems very in-character for Jacob to ditch Shepard after she turns him down in the romance scene. She pushed for it, he responded, then she broke it off. Why would he waste his time?

That's just my take on those lines, though.

Modifié par CastonFolarus, 31 janvier 2012 - 05:30 .

[Jilinna]

I would say I would make a thread about it first and foremost in the The Massive ME3 Spoiler Group. I would say  post your long dissertation in the discussion and just make a part under it saying TL;DR and give a brief summary of your argument. This way you will deter the trolls because trolls hate to read and those that do care enough to read it all will bring forth good discussion. (by the way I read your dissertation I don't think it was boring at all, I found it a good read)

If you decide to post it in the Character forums (since they have a thread for EDI why not Jacob's romance?) Then just be careful how you title it. I'd call it Jacob Romance Rumors -----ME3 SPOILER WARNING----  or something along those lines, and then just do the same thing.

I personally think it is needed considering everyone seems to be spreading around rumors that may or may not be true.

Though at the same time I also agree with Asenza. From what I was reading Jacob seems distant and unlike himself. A lot of his lines suggest something is up between Jacob and Shepard. What, I am not sure but the relationship seems cold to me. But then again he has jealousy lines about a Shepard that goes back to Kaidan which suggests he still has feelings for Shepard. But at the same time Shepard has to convince Jacob to even get a kiss from him... I am still upset about his romance stuff from what I have seen and based on their interactions. I want to know what happened between the two while Shipard was in the brig.

Hopefully his romance stuff was incomplete.

Modifié par Jilinna, 31 janvier 2012 - 06:16 .

[jeweledleah]

CastonFolarus wrote...

Asenza wrote...

I think this issue stems from the fact that, even with the Jacob knocked a girl up bit debunked, it does still seem that something happened with his relationship with Shepard. I know it's hard to tell from the leaked dialogue seeing as its all scrambled but why would Jacob say

SPOILERS



"Damnit Shepard I love you... loved you? Or "You expected me to wait forever?" Or "Your love is only the normandy?" Even if he doesn't cheat, well none of that sounds good.

That sounds like they had a big fight off screen. Or that Jacob, along with the rest of the LI's took amnesia pills- all the other LI's are suddenly so uncertain as to how matters stand between Shepard and them. I guess the passage of time is one thing, but surely it wasn't that long an amount of time. There's just no reason I could tell that the LI's would suddenly be uneasy about the relationship with Shepard....

Unless it's that the writers were really pushing us towards the ME1 crew. THEN I could see what they're up to...

My best guess? The "Dammit Shepard" line probably stems from the player breaking off the relationship when they meet again in ME3. Every relationship offers that, occording to the files. When you meet up, the LI asks if you're still interested. Doesn't that line sound like somthing Jacob would say if the player decides to ditch him(douchey as that move is, IMO)?

As for the "Did you expect me to wait forever" line, that seems like what Jacob would say if you turned him down in the love scene in ME2. Knowing Jacob, he wanted to get serious, and Shepard gave him a blunt 'no', indicating to him that she wasn't all that interested. The devs have told us, and the files indicate, that every outcome of a romance is recorded. If you get to the romance scene, even if you don't 'do the deed', the game will remember. Seems very in-character for Jacob to ditch Shepard after she turns him down in the romance scene. She pushed for it, he responded, then she broke it off. Why would he waste his time?

That's just my take on those lines, though.

I disagree.  it makes him look very unjacob like, it makes him look like a jerk who was only in it for the sex.  becasue you see, that particular rejection doesn't break off the romance.  you can still call him up to the cabin and cuddle with him.  its not much different then ME1 Ilos sending away.  and the way its phrased is that she's not telling him no, she's telling him not yet.  and seeing as they are about to embark on a dangerous mission that will require every ounce of energy and concentration from them?  its a reasonable "not yet"

no its not in character for jacob to do what he seems to have done in a leak, ESPECIALY if you turned him down.

[Darc_Requiem]

CastonFolarus wrote...

K, I'm really tired of ppl(not on here, but in other threads) talking about the supposed assassination of the Jacob romance as if it is fact. Some of you may remember my lengthy and probably boring dissertation on that whole situation in the Jacob fan group. I wanted to run the idea of starting a thread dedicated to putting down this rumor, or at least letting ppl know that it isn't 100% true.

Think this is even worth the effort, given Jacob's relative unpopualrity amoungst the ME fanbase? Or should I just shut my trap and wait for ME3 to prove these rumors wrong?

Also, if you think it is worth the effort, what is the best way to go about it? Create a threat with a LONG first post? Create a thread that links to a separate, public group to discuss it? Other?

If you have the patience to fight the good fight then by all means. I've grown tired of dealing with Jacob haters. It's tiring.

[HK-90210]

jeweledleah wrote...

CastonFolarus wrote...

My best guess? The "Dammit Shepard" line probably stems from the player breaking off the relationship when they meet again in ME3. Every relationship offers that, occording to the files. When you meet up, the LI asks if you're still interested. Doesn't that line sound like somthing Jacob would say if the player decides to ditch him(douchey as that move is, IMO)?

As for the "Did you expect me to wait forever" line, that seems like what Jacob would say if you turned him down in the love scene in ME2. Knowing Jacob, he wanted to get serious, and Shepard gave him a blunt 'no', indicating to him that she wasn't all that interested. The devs have told us, and the files indicate, that every outcome of a romance is recorded. If you get to the romance scene, even if you don't 'do the deed', the game will remember. Seems very in-character for Jacob to ditch Shepard after she turns him down in the romance scene. She pushed for it, he responded, then she broke it off. Why would he waste his time?

That's just my take on those lines, though.

I disagree.  it makes him look very unjacob like, it makes him look like a jerk who was only in it for the sex.  becasue you see, that particular rejection doesn't break off the romance.  you can still call him up to the cabin and cuddle with him.  its not much different then ME1 Ilos sending away.  and the way its phrased is that she's not telling him no, she's telling him not yet.  and seeing as they are about to embark on a dangerous mission that will require every ounce of energy and concentration from them?  its a reasonable "not yet"

no its not in character for jacob to do what he seems to have done in a leak, ESPECIALY if you turned him down.

I can respect your POV, but I disagree. Seems to me that the sex was a secondary(though certainly a key part) of Jacob's romance scene. The main thing Jacob got from it was that Shepard was serious about seeing this through. From his POV, Shepard was the one that pushed things this far. He was fine with simply leaving their relationship professional, but she wanted a personal one. And he certainly liked the prospect. Sex was simply the next level in their relationship. So Shepard's rejection indicates tim him that she isn't all that serious about him. If Shepard isn't willing to go past that barier when they very well might be dead in a few hours, will she ever? Even if the reasons are perfectly sound(such as saving energy for the Collector fight), I think Jacob would reason that if Shepard found reasons to say no in that senario, she'll find reasons again, and the relationship will never progress.

So that line, if it takes place when I think it does, makes him seem like someone who isn't going to waste his time. If Shepard can't commit to a relationship fully, then it's not something he'd be willing to pursue. IMO.

[outmane]

CastonFolarus wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

CastonFolarus wrote...

My best guess? The "Dammit Shepard" line probably stems from the player breaking off the relationship when they meet again in ME3. Every relationship offers that, occording to the files. When you meet up, the LI asks if you're still interested. Doesn't that line sound like somthing Jacob would say if the player decides to ditch him(douchey as that move is, IMO)?

As for the "Did you expect me to wait forever" line, that seems like what Jacob would say if you turned him down in the love scene in ME2. Knowing Jacob, he wanted to get serious, and Shepard gave him a blunt 'no', indicating to him that she wasn't all that interested. The devs have told us, and the files indicate, that every outcome of a romance is recorded. If you get to the romance scene, even if you don't 'do the deed', the game will remember. Seems very in-character for Jacob to ditch Shepard after she turns him down in the romance scene. She pushed for it, he responded, then she broke it off. Why would he waste his time?

That's just my take on those lines, though.

I disagree.  it makes him look very unjacob like, it makes him look like a jerk who was only in it for the sex.  becasue you see, that particular rejection doesn't break off the romance.  you can still call him up to the cabin and cuddle with him.  its not much different then ME1 Ilos sending away.  and the way its phrased is that she's not telling him no, she's telling him not yet.  and seeing as they are about to embark on a dangerous mission that will require every ounce of energy and concentration from them?  its a reasonable "not yet"

no its not in character for jacob to do what he seems to have done in a leak, ESPECIALY if you turned him down.

I can respect your POV, but I disagree. Seems to me that the sex was a secondary(though certainly a key part) of Jacob's romance scene. The main thing Jacob got from it was that Shepard was serious about seeing this through. From his POV, Shepard was the one that pushed things this far. He was fine with simply leaving their relationship professional, but she wanted a personal one. And he certainly liked the prospect. Sex was simply the next level in their relationship. So Shepard's rejection indicates tim him that she isn't all that serious about him. If Shepard isn't willing to go past that barier when they very well might be dead in a few hours, will she ever? Even if the reasons are perfectly sound(such as saving energy for the Collector fight), I think Jacob would reason that if Shepard found reasons to say no in that senario, she'll find reasons again, and the relationship will never progress.

So that line, if it takes place when I think it does, makes him seem like someone who isn't going to waste his time. If Shepard can't commit to a relationship fully, then it's not something he'd be willing to pursue. IMO.

I can see how a Shepard played as Jeweledleah does it could have a few communication problems with Jacob if he actually sees the pre-SM encounter like an important moment. He realizes he would want to be with Shepard before (potentially) dying. She turns him down because it would interfere with preparing herself to save the galaxy. He sees it as if this isnt meant to be. Now in a headcanon maybe Shep had time to explain and let him know things are gonna happen when they make it back alive, but that might not how the game interprets your 'no'.

If that is the actual scenario for ME3 (Jacob thinking that if you turn him down before the SM youre not that into him)  then it would be interesting to explore how that compares to the Miranda/Jacob romance. She probably used to put him after her work in her list of priorities. Maybe Jacob could be afraid of something like that happening again with Shep. And because of that understand a 'we will be together later' as a 'I cant find time for your in my busy saving-the-world schedule'. After all if you cant be with him before one of you might die, then when can you ?

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Modifié par TriviaAeducan, 02 février 2012 - 01:34 .

[jeweledleah]

@ Outmane and Galston  - from a point of view of a woman, who had to deal with this in real life - it doesn't matter who pushed for romantic relationship.  any person who dumps you just becasue you wouldn't have sex with them when THEY wanted?  is not worth being with.  because its pressure and its a type of ultimatum.  Considering that you still get the cuddling and the like and that you don't go off to give yourself to alliance the moment suicide mission is over - its reasonable to assume that you do end up having sex in an interim.

Jacob in ME2 didn't come across as that jerk of a guy (or a girl) who was in it for the dirty and if you don't put out on his/her terms, they are out of there.  using the love word in a desperate attempt to get them to cave and do it. this is the impression they are creating.  and its not acceptable and its not understandable and its not ok.  especially considering the circumstances of how femshep finds out.  its a dick cowardly move pure and simple, and Jacob in ME2 was neither a dick, nor a coward.  Neither of the femsheps I have with Jacob rejected him before SM (though only one got "I love you" from him, due to role playing reasons) but if they put pre SM rejection as a condition for JT dumping Shepard without even trying to tell her first????  it will effectively ruin his character for me, and I won't be able to import neither of those Shepards despite them being some of my favorites.  especialy Jade.

sorry.  but its personal.  I've been pressured into sex by a boyfriend.  I've been dumped by that boyfriend becasue I didn't feel ready to have sex yet.  its sucks, especialy when you genuinely care about a guy, you are just... not.... ready (not all of us are comfortable with casual sex, you know).  so a character that's presented that way is not a character I can keep enjoying.  even if neither of my Shepards will encounter that, just knowing that he's written to be capable of that is enough.

@ Kath  

Modifié par jeweledleah, 02 février 2012 - 02:55 .

[HK-90210]

Beware: TL;DR. This is becoming a habit with you Jacob fans. I don't type this much anywhere else.

jeweledleah wrote...
@ Outmane and Galston - from a point of view of a woman, who had to deal with this in real life - it doesn't matter who pushed for romantic relationship. any person who dumps you just becasue you wouldn't have sex with them when THEY wanted? is not worth being with. Because its pressure and its a type of ultimatum.

Absolutely. If sex is the only goal a person has in a relationship, they are not likely to be a good partner in life. But every person has their breaking point in a relationship with another person. For some people, it's staying boyfriend-girlfriend for years on end with no marriage. For others, it's alchoholism, or bad money habits. Sex is a fairly common one. If one person wants more or less sex than the other person is content with, that will lead to conflict. And if it's a conflict that a couple can't get past, then it's time for both people to move on, as the relationship is doomed to failure. But this does not automatically make either person less deserving of love, respect or companionship. Just that they were not meant for one another.
Also, Galston? Who's that? Haven't seen him in here.

jeweledleah wrote...
Considering that you still get the cuddling and the like and that you don't go off to give yourself to alliance the moment suicide mission is over - its reasonable to assume that you do end up having sex in an interim.

I disagree. For one, the game has no way of letting the player control this. Let's face it, if people who turned Jacob(or any other LI) down in the romance scene as a way of actually ending the romance, then later found out from Bioware: "LOL, yeah, you still had sex!", they would be downright pissed. So the game has to assume that the sex took place in that scene(and possibly afterward, but there's no need to say so), or it didn't happen. You can metagame that scene to a different time or place, but the only way for the game to know you have done the deed with any LI is for the player to say so. Otherwise, it has to assume the negative. So if you turn down Jacob then, you turn him down until ME3. Not realistic, but it's the only way I can see that mechanic working in game.

jeweledleah wrote...
Jacob in ME2 didn't come across as that jerk of a guy (or a girl) who was in it for the dirty and if you don't put out on his/her terms, they are out of there.

I agree. This does not seem like Jacob, and I find it offensive that people(not Jacob fans, usually) beleive this.

jeweledleah wrote...
using the love word in a desperate attempt to get them to cave and do it. this is the impression they are creating. and its not acceptable and its not understandable and its not ok. especially considering the circumstances of how femshep finds out. its a dick cowardly move pure and simple, and Jacob in ME2 was neither a dick, nor a coward. Neither of the femsheps I have with Jacob rejected him before SM (though only one got "I love you" from him, due to role playing reasons) but if they put pre SM rejection as a condition for JT dumping Shepard without even trying to tell her first???? it will effectively ruin his character for me, and I won't be able to import neither of those Shepards despite them being some of my favorites. especialy Jade.

I believe that when Jacob walked up to Shepard's cabin before the SM, he was looking for two things. One: hot, steamy sex with a woman he'd grown to care for. He's a guy, it's a weakness of our gender, and there's no way around it. He had held his desires in check up till then for the sake of keeping focus and not disrupting the ship. But hey, both he and Shepard could be dead in a few hours, it could very well be now or never.

Which brings us to the other thing Jacob wanted to know: where he stood with Shepard. From his POV, they had done everything they could to prepare and it was now the calm before the storm. What was the point of holding back anymore? he wanted to know if she thinking of him, if he was important  to her. So at first, he is flirty, tries to keep the mood as light and playful as he and Shepard usally keep it. If Shepard plays along, he can tell they understand one another, she likes him enough to spend what may be her last night alive with him. 

If Shepard brushes him off at first, he takes the hint to be serious. So he lays his feelings out on the table. I don't think Jacob was 'using the love word'. I think he was letting Shepard know that he was serious, letting her know that he wasn't playing around with her, and that he cared for her great deal. If Shepard accepts him after that, then he knows that she feels something for him as well, even if doesn't go as far as love.

When Shepard says they should save it for the celebration, he's bit put off by the fact that she's rejecting him. From his POV, what is to be gained by waiting? Why is she leaving him in doubt of her feelings for him? So he acts like she's toying with him(as their previous interactions indicate she's apt to do). It's a surprisingly vulnerable moment for Jacob. He tries to play it off with humor, but when I see that, it hurts. Because I've known people that were toyed with like that, left in doubt of how a person feels about them. It's one of the worst feelings. I had to consol one of my best friends(a girl) through a really bad breakup with a guy who just kept putting time with her off to go get drunk with his friends. When she finally told him that she was feeling like she wasn't very important to him, he told her she wasn't, and went out drinking with his friends again. I was one of the friends(all-time designated driver), and when I found out what he said , I haven't spoken to him since.

There are always moments in a relationship where you have to let the other person know you care. Jacob went up to Sheaprd's cabin to find out if she cared. And he got his answer, and acted accordingly.

So no offense to people that do it, but my opinion of Jacob only goes up when he brushes Shepard off as he walks out of her cabin. He let her know exactly how he felt, and found out that she cares for him, just not enough. The sex is so very secondary to that. You might have the cuddle option afterward, but I don't see that actually happening. From his POV, Shepard had her chance with him, and it's over. I don't know if there's any post-romance rejection dialogue, because I've never been able to go through with rejecting Jacob(or any LI, actually). I consider it a pretty mean thing to do to any of them.

jeweledleah wrote...
sorry. but its personal. I've been pressured into sex by a boyfriend. I've been dumped by that boyfriend becasue I didn't feel ready to have sex yet. its sucks, especialy when you genuinely care about a guy, you are just... not.... ready (not all of us are comfortable with casual sex, you know). so a character that's presented that way is not a character I can keep enjoying. even if neither of my Shepards will encounter that, just knowing that he's written to be capable of that is enough.

I'm sorry you had to deal with that kind of bull****. Some guys will wait for a girl they really care about. Really caring about someone is respecting their wishes as much, if not more, than your own. Something it sounds like neither your ex-boyfriend or my ex-buddy ever did.

...........Damn, when did this thread get all emotional?

Edit: Bloody spelling error I just couldn't let go.

Modifié par CastonFolarus, 02 février 2012 - 11:40 .

[outmane]

jeweledleah wrote...

@ Outmane and Galston  - from a point of view of a woman, who had to deal with this in real life - it doesn't matter who pushed for romantic relationship.  any person who dumps you just becasue you wouldn't have sex with them when THEY wanted?  is not worth being with.  because its pressure and its a type of ultimatum.  Considering that you still get the cuddling and the like and that you don't go off to give yourself to alliance the moment suicide mission is over - its reasonable to assume that you do end up having sex in an interim.

Jacob in ME2 didn't come across as that jerk of a guy (or a girl) who was in it for the dirty and if you don't put out on his/her terms, they are out of there.  using the love word in a desperate attempt to get them to cave and do it. this is the impression they are creating.  and its not acceptable and its not understandable and its not ok.  especially considering the circumstances of how femshep finds out.  its a dick cowardly move pure and simple, and Jacob in ME2 was neither a dick, nor a coward.  Neither of the femsheps I have with Jacob rejected him before SM (though only one got "I love you" from him, due to role playing reasons) but if they put pre SM rejection as a condition for JT dumping Shepard without even trying to tell her first????  it will effectively ruin his character for me, and I won't be able to import neither of those Shepards despite them being some of my favorites.  especialy Jade.

sorry.  but its personal.  I've been pressured into sex by a boyfriend.  I've been dumped by that boyfriend becasue I didn't feel ready to have sex yet.  its sucks, especialy when you genuinely care about a guy, you are just... not.... ready (not all of us are comfortable with casual sex, you know).  so a character that's presented that way is not a character I can keep enjoying.  even if neither of my Shepards will encounter that, just knowing that he's written to be capable of that is enough.

I agree 100% with you on the level of ****ness needed to try to coherse someone to have sex when you know the feelings involved would make it harder for the other one to say no. I truly hope this isnt the intended dialogue and that it wont ruin Jacob for you.

Personally, as much as I enjoy discussing Jacob, im not very emotionnaly attached to the character. So I cant say I would be shattered if he turns out to be a dick. The fact that you get the 'I love you' by going renegade on him already made me uncomfortable in the first place. To me its always been a way to get into Shep's pants. Maybe not consciously on his part, but he still used that 'good old trick'.

In other words i wasnt trying to excuse such a behavior, I was just looking at it closely and at what it could mean from Jacob's perspective.

Edit: rereading Caston's post made me think that what might be causing the offense could simply be the game mechanics. Recruit - LM - talk - talk - sex might not be the most caring and realistic way to explain how a relationship is created. Even if in our headcanons characters have time to talk things over and proceed with their relationship in way more similar to what we would like to see... well the game is still just a framed mechanic. It might not interpret 'lets wait a bit' the same way the character would.

Modifié par outmane, 02 février 2012 - 11:31 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Guys. Guys guys guys.

I found Jacob's face model on tumblr. Behold, Kenyon Glover:




This is horribly shallow of me, but holy balls, if he were this hot in the game...

[Asenza]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Guys. Guys guys guys.

I found Jacob's face model on tumblr. Behold, Kenyon Glover:




This is horribly shallow of me, but holy balls, if he were this hot in the game...

Yeah, I'll be shallow, too. *melts*

Maybe they'll make him look more like that in ME3?

[GameBoyish]

*dies of happiness*

[ADLegend21]

yeah they widened his head, but oh wow Dude looks hot and I'm not even ashamed ot say that as a straight man.

[ADLegend21]

TriviaAeducan wrote...

LOOK! LOOK! LOOK!

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Wow Jacob gets the lone human spot. AWESOME!

[Darc_Requiem]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Guys. Guys guys guys.

I found Jacob's face model on tumblr. Behold, Kenyon Glover:




This is horribly shallow of me, but holy balls, if he were this hot in the game...

Damn even real life Jacob is ripped.

[PrinceLionheart]

TriviaAeducan wrote...

LOOK! LOOK! LOOK!

:O:O



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Very nice. With all this exposure that the new human characters are getting, I'm praying that Bioware took the time to actually do justice to Jacob's character. The leaks made me nervous.