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outmane wrote...

CastonFolarus wrote...

outmane wrote...

 So im finishing a ME2 Shepard and I hear this.

Jacob: I dont know about you Krios, but Im loyal to more then my next paycheck.


oh really *sigh* 
<_<


Well, to be fair, that was ME2's Jacob. The ME3 Jacob is not the same person. I'm thinking they were twins. Long lost. And Jacob's parents never told him. Hmmmmm.....headcannon................................HEY! A Fan can dream, can't they?! It's all I got left!


Oh god! You migh be on to something!
Quick someone makes a mod to give Jacob the customary 'evil twin mustache' :wizard:

tadam! problem solved B)


This needs to become a new Jacob fan banner. I'm thinking: "The Priiize was a lie."

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TriviaAeducan wrote...

Am I the only one who feels discouraged to play Mass Effect 3 because of this?


It made me hestitant to even load of my femshep. But this nothing compared to the endings. The endings make me feel like I've wasted the last 4 years of my life on this series. I haven't seen such an epic fail of a conclusion since te Matrix. Except I didn't spend  hundres of hours of my life and hundreds of dollars of my money on the Matrix Trilogy.

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People fall in love. People also fall out of love.

The way I see it, Jacob wanted to settle down and raise a family. Unfortunately, FemShep can't give him that. So he went for someone else who can.

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askanec wrote...

People fall in love. People also fall out of love.

The way I see it, Jacob wanted to settle down and raise a family. Unfortunately, FemShep can't give him that. So he went for someone else who can.


That's not the issue. The issue is he never bothered to tell Femshep about it. For a character that valued integrity so much its completely OOC.

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askanec wrote...

People fall in love. People also fall out of love.

The way I see it, Jacob wanted to settle down and raise a family. Unfortunately, FemShep can't give him that. So he went for someone else who can.


Which would be fine if any previous interaction with him hinted at this being a possibility. But it didn't. He says he loves you. He says he want's to 'see this through'. His romance is as deep as any in ME2. And he is portrayed as a honest, forthright person. A good man. There was no hint of any doubts from him about the relationship on his end in ME2, so this kind of shift from him is completely OOC.

Also, he didn't want to immediatly settle down and raise a family. He even says that the kid wasn't a planned thing. The way Bioware portrays it, Dr. Cole went after him, he bit, and ditches Shepard without even talking to her. This is not something an honest, forthright, good man does. This is not the Jacob they showed us in ME2.

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outmane wrote...

 So im finishing a ME2 Shepard and I hear this.

Jacob: I dont know about you Krios, but Im loyal to more than my next paycheck.


oh really *sigh* 
<_<


:crying:

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Well team..... what do we do now.....

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I love playing the game, how it changes with between scary-flashlight-in-the-dark to spanking reaper with help of a worm. Nothing will stop me from continuing playing.

Just have a feeling that there must have been some kind of crisis that made him want to find something safe, right now, and just hold on to it. If FemShep or Shepard had been around instead of being in custody they could have helped him through it perhaps. He just went from all out soldier, "I want to do something that matters even if it means working with Cerberus" to "I found something to live for and I'm not leaving". Hmm... wish we could get a letter or something from him about this explaining the situation.

Hmmm.... how I think that I will handle it. Some kind of crisis has happened to Jacob, something that really shocked him and he was in dire need of either a friend (Shepard) or his love (FemShep). The doctor and him get together, he finds some kind of stability again. She gets pregnant, it wasn't planned but he would never ever give up on his kid. He wouldn't want to be a worse dad to his kid than his own father was to him. So that puts familylife with the doctor in priority over FemShep. But he is ashamed of his actions, he has worked so hard at doing the right thing and now, it has somehow turned into him being a real jerk to FemShep. What do you sometimes do when you have really messed up, you avoid it, try not to think about it. Because it's just to much. Plus at the moment he is occupied with trying to get the people and the person who has become his new stability of that cerberus base. You take care of a guilty conscience after you know that you will live through the night. Survival first. And that's it. You run into him when he is trying to save those people who have become so important to him that he cannot leave them even to fight the reapers. He made his choice. I'm going to imagine that if they would have been able to get of that base into a safe location he would have sat down with his guilty feelings and tried to contact FemShep. Say how it is, he has got a kid and can't leave but that he knows that he has messed up and isn't proud of it. When you find him they are still fighting for survival so letter-writing isn't really top priority at that point.

Hmm.... I might have to work on it a little but I might go with something like that. Crisis, unplanned kid that he cannot leave and major guilt over messing up. Guess the kid is the thing that really breaks it of with FemShep.

Don't know, it's a start at least.

edit: I guess this will be a major thing for a FemShep that has romanced Jacob, how does she continue after this. Well she soilder on, will it be something that breaks her spirit. Will she reach out to someone new for reasurance. Sometimes these things happen in life, how will your FemShep deal with it.

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Woah guys, sorry to hear this. I really liked him as a character but never romanced him. I got to his mission where he talked about Dr Cole and was wondering who she was to him if he and Shepard had been involved. So exact same dialogue? You don't even get to call him out on it?

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Vovea wrote...

Woah guys, sorry to hear this. I really liked him as a character but never romanced him. I got to his mission where he talked about Dr Cole and was wondering who she was to him if he and Shepard had been involved. So exact same dialogue? You don't even get to call him out on it?


You get to call him out but's pretty weak.

Shepard: "You are bastard."

Jacob:"Yeah, I guess I deserve that."

Shepard:"Okay lets get your people out of here."

:blink:

With Dr. Cole

Shepard:"I want to talk about Jacob and you."

Brynn:"I knew about you two, but I pursued him anway."

Shepard:"You should focus on packing up. I'll get your people out of here"

:blink:

At Huerta Hospital

Shepard:"How are you and Dr. Cole doing?"

Jacob: "She's pregnant. She wants to name the baby after you."

:blink:

WTF Bioware. WTF

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The mix of non romanced dialogue and romanced dialogue is terrible.

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TriviaAeducan wrote...

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Yeah, no kidding.

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So theres that EA app on IPad called Datapad. It sends you messages from characters in the game as you play along. People in the Garrus thread have posted a few of the romance messages. Lets not discuss if its adorable or tacky but I was curious as of what Jacob was saying in his messages. anyone got the app and is playing/replaying to see what comes ?

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outmane wrote...

So theres that EA app on IPad called Datapad. It sends you messages from characters in the game as you play along. People in the Garrus thread have posted a few of the romance messages. Lets not discuss if its adorable or tacky but I was curious as of what Jacob was saying in his messages. anyone got the app and is playing/replaying to see what comes ?


Hmmm I wonder...

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Here guys, have a facebook page. It just went live and still needs work.

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mnomaha wrote...

Here guys, have a facebook page. It just went live and still needs work.

http://www.facebook....esInMassEffect3


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Darc_Requiem wrote...

You get to call him out but's pretty weak.

Shepard: "You are bastard."

Jacob:"Yeah, I guess I deserve that."

Shepard:"Okay lets get your people out of here."

:blink:

With Dr. Cole

Shepard:"I want to talk about Jacob and you."

Brynn:"I knew about you two, but I pursued him anway."

Shepard:"You should focus on packing up. I'll get your people out of here"

:blink:

At Huerta Hospital

Shepard:"How are you and Dr. Cole doing?"

Jacob: "She's pregnant. She wants to name the baby after you."

:blink:

WTF Bioware. WTF


Hmm... well yes. That will be a problem to roleplay my FemShep going through that. It's such a very strange mix of romanced and non-romanced conversation. Especially the one with Dr Cole, that won't work for me at all. Will have to remember to avoid talking to her at all costs. Is it possible to not have that convo? It works a little better then... a little. It could have worked if he was unfaithful but they did have a real convo about it. Him messing up but not being able to leave his kid. And that doctor.... I'm just a little bit tempted to just leave her there. Ok, I'm always paragon so I would save her like a goody.-two-shoes. But it would have been a pretty nice renegade thing to just.... walk away... Perhaps that's a little too evil.

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Oki... after thinking about those convos again, thanks for posting them btw Darc I'm feeling really really heartbroken.

After looking through my old pics of Robin and Jacob, and taking a look at their convos. I just can't see this happening. I could have learned to live with it if there had been at least a good convo with Jacob trying to explain himself. But this is just one big heartbreak. I loved his romance-arc in ME2, it was soo good. And really looked forward to romancing him, Liara and Kaidan in ME3. I like to play Fem-Male romance arcs a little more but always do a few Fem-Fem. But that won't be the case, because in ME3 it's Kaidan if he's alive and Garrus if you romanced him in ME2. You can watch Thane die. The rest are females. I wish we could have gotten something as good as Miranda's place in the game because I have really enjoyed meeting up with her.

Well, one man's loss is another Turian's gain. I will start a new ME2 PT with origin so I can at least romance Garrus, but really, not enough dicks on the dancefloor. Guess I've should have seen it coming since Jacob was the only one who didn't get new armor-dlc in ME2. Fewer players play FemShep, very fem FemShep romanced Jacob. Result, he is important to so few players that he cannot get any resources. It won't stop me playing, because they have done soo many things right, love the varied gameplay and how the story progresses. Mordin was great! I love this game. But Jacob, he is my biggest heartbreak since the dark ritual in DAO.

Don't know how I will deal with Robin and Jacob, might just leave them happy in ME2.

They shared some good moments
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Some bad ones
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And this is how I'll always see them
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Robin and Jacob by PolymorphicGirl

edit: spelling fail

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SilentK wrote...

Oki... after thinking about those convos again, thanks for posting them btw Darc I'm feeling really really heartbroken.

After looking through my old pics of Robin and Jacob, and taking a look at their convos. I just can't see this happening. I could have learned to live with it if there had been at least a good convo with Jacob trying to explain himself. But this is just one big heartbreak. I loved his romance-arc in ME2, it was soo good. And really looked forward to romancing him, Liara and Kaidan in ME3. I like to play Fem-Male romance arcs a little more but always do a few Fem-Fem. But that won't be the case, because in ME3 it's Kaidan if he's alive and Garrus if you romanced him in ME2. You can watch Thane die. The rest are females. I wish we could have gotten something as good as Miranda's place in the game because I have really enjoyed meeting up with her.

Well, one man's loss is another Turian's gain. I will start a new ME2 PT with origin so I can at least romance Garrus, but really, not enough dicks on the dancefloor. Guess I've should have seen it coming since Jacob was the only one who didn't get new armor-dlc in ME2. Fewer players play FemShep, very fem FemShep romanced Jacob. Result, he is important to so few players that he cannot get any resources. It won't stop me playing, because they have done soo many things right, love the varied gameplay and how the story progresses. Mordin was great! I love this game. But Jacob, he is my biggest heartbreak since the dark ritual in DAO.

Don't know how I will deal with Robin and Jacob, might just leave them happy in ME2.

They shared some good moments
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Some bad ones
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And this is how I'll always see them
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Robin and Jacob by PolymorphicGirl

edit: spelling fail


It's like BW just didn't care. Romancing Garrus is like Beauty and the Beast except Garrus will never be human. That's why I feel they screwed Femshep over. He just not a realistic romance option for some and makes femshep look very desperate. Garrus even said himself he doesn't find human females attractive. I think it would have made more sense if Garrus cheated on femshep with a Turian female.

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Darc_Requiem wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

Here guys, have a facebook page. It just went live and still needs work.

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That's funny. He knew about this for months.

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Watched it on YouTube. I was shocked at how badly they botched this. What a slap in the face for anyone who romanced his character. I read the leaked spoilers, but I guess part of me really hoped/didn't believe they would leave this in for those with a romance flag. I agree, I don't think the character I knew in two would do what he did in three. Character assassination at its worst. Let's see, he's established as a solid guy, who doesn't rush into really heavy relationships quickly, and he seems to really come to care for Shepard by the end. So after SIX WHOLE MONTHS, he knocks up some other chick because he 'couldn't wait forever'?

Unless we're to believe he was spouting off all those lines just to get into Shepard's pants--and if that's the route they went, well shame on you Bioware, that's tacky beyond belief.

As a side note, I found the dialogue to be poorly written outside of the actual content. It's bizarre how Shep can go from a) trying to come on to him in a crisis situation B) calling him a bastard c) joking about how Brynn wants to name the baby after Shepard. It's all just so...awkwardly done. Guess I won't be importing my Jacob import after all :(


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Pure character assasination. he abandons Shepard like his father abandoned him, left her to rot under the alliances watch and then knocks up another woman and STAYS with her to prove himself o be unlike his father, wha if he'd done the same to Shepard? I don't know that guy was in ME3 that was not Jacob Taylor



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 Here are some of the letters your Shep recieves with the Datapad app on Ipod if you romanced Garrus. (I dont have it myself)

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Do any of you guys seen the ones Jacob sends (if there are any)? Im just curious in what way they handled the 'cheating ' stuff. Not that it would make it right or anything, but I want to know what they did with it.

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It's like BW just didn't care. Romancing Garrus is like Beauty and the Beast except Garrus will never be human. That's why I feel they screwed Femshep over. He just not a realistic romance option for some and makes femshep look very desperate. Garrus even said himself he doesn't find human females attractive. I think it would have made more sense if Garrus cheated on femshep with a Turian female.

I think it would be far less realistic than Jacob cheating just because Garrus has been your friend for far longer and he's stuck by you no matter what while with Jacob he was there because it was his job. That doesn't mean that it makes sense for Jacob to cheat but Garrus would definitely let you know before ending it since you two are one of each other's closest friends.

And given that inter-species romances aren't that uncommon, I don't think it makes female!Shepard look desperate at all. The asari's culture makes it a taboo for them to go for other asari so they get it on with everyone in the galaxy and we run across other inter-species romances all the time in the background of games. And if you don't go for Garrus, Tali will.

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ME2-Jacob would never cheat, and he would be one to tell you if he wanted to end it. He did end the relationship if you were too much drama in ME2. That's how much he valued taking it slow and keeping it real. Neither Garrus nor ME2-Jacob would do anything like that. I don't know ME3-Jacob at all so I'm leaving him out of the equation.

Don't think we will have a happier thread getting into fights about who's LI is more likely to cheat, and we need all the happy we can get. Let's just keep the thread on Jacob. Pretty please.

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