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[PsyrenY]

Oh. For some reason I thought Bioware was actively soliciting said feedback. My mistake.

[shepskisaac]

TriviaAeducan wrote...

ATTENTION ALL JACOB-MANCERS

Visii wrote...
Just dropping in to say, we're putting together a bunch of feedback about the ME2 LIs treatment in ME3, and we're getting people who are going to PAX to try and give it in. So if anyone has a few things to say how the Jacob "romance" made them feel, well, here's your chance!

Send me a PM, passionate, but polite, people!

Quoting for new page.

Optimystic_X wrote...

Not to mention Kaidan is bi, so he'll probably want Femshep to whip out the strap-on every once in awhile... hopefully yours is into that ^ ^

Just so you know (a lil' biological fact), "down there" straight, bi and gay men are all built exactly the same therefore any man, regardless of his orientation may want to have some fun this way. So Jacob may want FemShep to whip out the strap-on every once in awhile too. Hopefully yours is into that ^ ^

Modifié par IsaacShep, 02 avril 2012 - 04:07 .

[PsyrenY]

IsaacShep wrote...

Just so you know (a lil' biological fact), "down there" straight, bi and gay men are all built exactly the same therefore any man, regardless of his orientation may want to have some fun this way. So Jacob may want FemShep to whip out the strap-on every once in awhile too. Hopefully yours is into that ^ ^

Of course, of course, just showing solidarity with those folks who claimed the Kaidan romance for femshep was somehow inadequate.


I have a question about Jacob - does his "final goodbye" dialogue (i.e. from the Communicator guy in London) change if you romanced him? Or does he give the same "there's a bar in rio we should check out" line.

Edit for link:

Is that the same for romanced femshep?

Modifié par Optimystic_X, 02 avril 2012 - 04:14 .

[Visii]

Optimystic_X wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Just so you know (a lil' biological fact), "down there" straight, bi and gay men are all built exactly the same therefore any man, regardless of his orientation may want to have some fun this way. So Jacob may want FemShep to whip out the strap-on every once in awhile too. Hopefully yours is into that ^ ^

Of course, of course, just showing solidarity with those folks who claimed the Kaidan romance for femshep was somehow inadequate.


I have a question about Jacob - does his "final goodbye" dialogue (i.e. from the Communicator guy in London) change if you romanced him? Or does he give the same "there's a bar in rio we should check out" line.

Edit for link:

Is that the same for romanced femshep?

Haven't imported my Jacob Shep to find out, but I heard that it's the same, yes.

[SilentK]

Darc_Requiem wrote...

@SilentK

That's the thing, you don't have to bring a Jacob-Femshep over to look at the convo. It's the same convo as the unromanced convo plus a few lines. The tone of the conversation with Brynn and Jacob is broken. It makes all three characters seem bi-polar. Shepard is confrontational in the additional romance lines but happy to help in the non-romance lines. Brynn is comes of as quite reasonable unless it's a romance line, then she comes off as a complete "witch." The back it forth is jarring. Not to mention Femshep goes into her molester voice during her romance lines

*Ughhh*

Well, that won't make for a fun PT, not at all.

I am not a stranger to unwanted things happening to my LI. But I want my FemShep to stay in character.


Picture this scenario, those who has played DA:O will find it familiar. Or you can read this comic on DA for reference. My failure ending by Fukari

Scene: Shepard's room, it is a Shepard who romanced Liara.

Liara: Shepard, I can finally tell why I have had plotarmor for all these games, I hold the means to defeat the reapers.
Shepard: Ok, that's pretty good. Would have been great to perhaps have heard about it sooner, say pre-earth's downfall. But it's all right.
Liara: I must have a child
Shepard: Ohh... I'm game
Liara: I am sorry, but it cannot be you. It must be a new N7, due to spacemagic. It has to be Vega
Shepard:   ...  
Liara: Talk him into sleeping with me and having a child and all will be well
Shepard: Oki... well, I'll just go down... and to talk to Vega... *inwards crying like a baby*
Liara: Is it ok if we borrow your room, glyph is working in mine.
Shepard: Fine.. I'll just... going. I'm going.
Liara: I love you Shepard, this will save us. What do you want, this child but we can live together or would you rather go down by yourself?
Shepard: No, I want this,... I'll talk to Vega.

Shepard talks to Vega. After this there is a convo. Liara is sitting in Shepard's bed, you see Vega pulling of his shirt, climbing into the bed. He smiles at Liara and then... turn of the lights.

Now rate your Shepard's happy-feelings on a scale of 1 to 10. -50, hmm, well.. that sounds about right.

Jupp... this happened pretty much. In DA:O. My FemWarden had the happy choice between talking her man into getting another woman pergnant or one of them dying. It was not a happy moment. Played the game blind that first time, when I got to the convo where Morrigan climbs into the bed with Alistair... I had FanGirl-heartbreak, big time.
Think that the coffemaker in the Dragon Age writers pit still get's a few cups of coffe of fangirl tears each week from that one. Mentioned the Dark Ritual casually on the SWTOR-forum a few weeks ago and there were lot's of other girls crying about it. And it has been year's since DA:O came out.

But I kept coming back to that romance because it felt like it fit into the story. Jupp, there was a big heartbreak but the reason for it, the Dark Ritual fit with the story.  Ok, since there are so many LI:s in ME I can understand if there are fewer routes that you can take with them. Say what you will about all the LI:S in DAII being Hawke-sexual, I liked it, but at least then they don't have to create different LI:s for Hetro Fem/Bro-Shep and Gay Fem/Bro-Shep. Think that they had so many LI:s now that they apparently forgot about Thane, and Jacob has some really horrible mixes of romance and un-romanced convos. I can get over Jacob perhaps cheating if they get to talk about it, meaning then I can consider importing my Jacobmancers into ME3. It would be great if there was some way to salvage the relationship, meaning then I might actually be a little bit less sad about importing them into ME3.

But I can't play with a FemShep that is just wildly out of character. Gahh... I am really sad about the situation with Jacob. But I am mostly sad that my FemShep ceases to be FemShep at that point. Never for once second took that cougar-tone to be the defining characteristic of their relationship. If anyone asked me what defined the Jacob-FemShep-romance it would be when he asks her about how she is holding up. What she is carrying. I want to know how they went from having a movie-star happy ending in ME2 to Jacob going "Didn't think I would see you again".

In ME2 Jacob was my FemShep's rock.
In ME3, they are the laughingstock of youtube.

Modifié par SilentK, 02 avril 2012 - 10:44 .

[Visii]

Just a reminder everyone. If ya want to make your voice heard about how you think Jacob’s "romance" went in ME3 (If they had been dead SET on this path, why couldn't Shepard have expressed her hurt more clearly? Why wasn't there more of a confrontation?!) PM me or post here!

http://social.biowar...ndex/10853184/4

I only have 5 letters from Jacob fans right now. I know there's a few more of you guys out there!

Try and keep it passionate, but polite! What did you like, what didn't you like? Were your expectations met regarding how you last saw Jacbo's character in ME2 (as a fellow Jacob fan, I'm guessing, no)? How well do you think Jacob was portrayed in ME3 ( >_< badly)? What do you wish was done (anything else, in my opinion)?

Deadline for letters is Thursday 9 PM (EST). Gotta PM it to me or post on the above thread by then so I can be sure it gets printed out!!

[thesnake777]

Visii wrote...

Just a reminder everyone. If ya want to make your voice heard about how you think Jacob’s "romance" went in ME3 (If they had been dead SET on this path, why couldn't Shepard have expressed her hurt more clearly? Why wasn't there more of a confrontation?!) PM me or post here!

http://social.biowar...ndex/10853184/4

I only have 5 letters from Jacob fans right now. I know there's a few more of you guys out there!

Try and keep it passionate, but polite! What did you like, what didn't you like? Were your expectations met regarding how you last saw Jacbo's character in ME2 (as a fellow Jacob fan, I'm guessing, no)? How well do you think Jacob was portrayed in ME3 ( >_< badly)? What do you wish was done (anything else, in my opinion)?

Deadline for letters is Thursday 9 PM (EST). Gotta PM it to me or post on the above thread by then so I can be sure it gets printed out!!

Bumped and Quoted....
Comon guys send some letters in Jacob needs to get those numbers up

[SilentK]

Thanks for reminding me IsaacShep, Visii and thesnake777 =)

I sent a letter. Pretty much outlining that if they have to break up I would rather be able to talk about it, why he changed, than my FemShep going into cougar-mode and trying to get in his pants. I doesn't fit with how the relationship developed during ME2 and not at all with the happy ending. So,yes, he can leave if it is taken care off in a good way. I would be over the moon if there was a way to salvage the relationship but... I'm not holding my breath for that one. Let it end with some dignity if that is what it has to do. But if there is a possibility to save it, if I can jump through hops and work for getting Jacob back, I would.

[PsyrenY]

outmane wrote...

 Here are some of the letters your Shep recieves with the Datapad app on Ipod if you romanced Garrus. (I dont have it myself)




Do any of you guys seen the ones Jacob sends (if there are any)? Im just curious in what way they handled the 'cheating ' stuff. Not that it would make it right or anything, but I want to know what they did with it.

Hey, is there a site or thread that compiles these? And are there any for Jacob? (Unlikely but...)

[Visii]

Hey Everyone!

The PAX Letter initiative is going well. We should have at least a hundred letters to send, great job!

The letters are all going into a lovely, Mass Effect-themed binder with pictures of the LI's on the front. Can't wait to show it to you all!

The thing is, we were hoping to receive some Fanart to put into the binder of letters. Doesn't have to be anything new, but if you have some Jacob fanart or know someone who has some and wouldn't mind showcasing it, please post it or a link to it, here: http://social.biowar...884/1#10994435.

We're going to put the pictures into the letter binder as section dividers, to give BioWare a chance to rest their eyes from the onslaught of fanmail. Should turn out really pretty!

If it is not your work please get permission from the artist before submitting it. Nothing explicit, please. I'd also like to get some fanart of all the LI's, so please, ask around the forums here, or look around DeviantArt. And ask around the other threads!

Time is of the essence! And if you haven't submitted a letter yet, what are you waiting for? (I'm still hoping to get a few more from some loyal Jacob fans!)

[Darc_Requiem]

Well Bioware basically admitted to forgetting about Thane in ME3. So I think we can surmise what happened to Jacob. Makes sense why his ME3 character wasn't Jacob...

[stwu]

Just dropping in to say hi and give support and hugs to all you Jacob fans. We have to stick together.

[stwu]

Bad Cupcake wrote...

My Shep was named Brynn... so I got super confused on the "she wants to name the baby after you part." hahahahaha

Well the one renegade Shep I have was named Mia and she hooked of with Jacob. Yeah, kinda weird....

[CC-Tron]

Darc_Requiem wrote...

Well Bioware basically admitted to forgetting about Thane in ME3. So I think we can surmise what happened to Jacob. Makes sense why his ME3 character wasn't Jacob...

I have yet to start my femshep playthrough in ME3. They've made her unappealing to some players. Jacob is the only straight male romance choice for femshep and they squashed that. Leaving her with a lesbian, a bisexual female alien (yeah that's Liara), a turian, and a bisexual man. It almost as if they were punishing those who chose Jacob. SMDH.

Modifié par CC-Tron, 07 avril 2012 - 01:18 .

[Darc_Requiem]

I just played through Jacob's ME3 mission for the third time. I just realized something. Something that makes things even worse. They forgot he was a biotic. He doesn't use his biotics once. Jacob runs to aid that poor woman at the beginning of the mission, through a hail of "bullets", and doesn't throw up a barrier. <_<

[LaurenShepard-N7]

I'm not a big fan of Jacob but I totally support you guys, I know what it's like to get dumped by an LI then watch him have a baby with someone else. (Alistair..) Bioware has to stop punishing straight female gamers!!

[revan11exile]

Darc_Requiem wrote...

I just played through Jacob's ME3 mission for the third time. I just realized something. Something that makes things even worse. They forgot he was a biotic. He doesn't use his biotics once. Jacob runs to aid that poor woman at the beginning of the mission, through a hail of "bullets", and doesn't throw up a barrier. <_<

Ha i noticed that as well 

[SilentK]

Optimystic_X wrote...

outmane wrote...

 Here are some of the letters your Shep recieves with the Datapad app on Ipod if you romanced Garrus. (I dont have it myself)

*snip pic*


Do any of you guys seen the ones Jacob sends (if there are any)? Im just curious in what way they handled the 'cheating ' stuff. Not that it would make it right or anything, but I want to know what they did with it.

Hey, is there a site or thread that compiles these? And are there any for Jacob? (Unlikely but...)

Here's a link to all the messages that you get on the app    =)

The following text have some info on DA:O and DAII if anyone want's to avoid spoilers.

And I must say, it still feels pretty ok if you are a friend of Jacob. And, if I think that the tone was better I am not against a LI dumping FemShep. Several things should be able to happen. I think that the Dark Ritual in DA:O was painful but good storywise. If Thane and Jacob had been done differently it could have added a bigger spectrum of roleplaying for FemShep. Moulin Rouge style tragic story with Thane if they were absolutely hell bent on him not surviving. Still hoping that something will come up there, but if no cure, then please a really good tragic romance before death. Not this the current state of nothing.
And Jacob. I am not against FemShep being left, if they could discuss it in a good way. Fenris leaves FemHawke in DAII, and I still remember that scene. Was completely surprised, "You're leaving, but I'm the protaganist, and hot with super-sexy voice, how can you leave?" . Since I was playing blind, I had no idea that he would have come back if my FemHawke waited for him, instead she went crying to Merrill and spent a good portion of the game trying to get Fenris jealous,lol. Poor rebound-Merrill. That was great, and completely out of the blue for me. That was dumping done well, they talk about it, FemHawke feels like an adult at least  =). It could have been pretty good if treated in a more serious tone. How will your FemShep take it, will she forgive him, will she leave them to die on the base. How will this affect her continuing struggles, well you can change behaviour of your FemShep straight way after the mission, but it would be nice with some dialouges with squadmembers. Garrus :"He was a idiot to leave you". And then you could get to rp FemShep as brushing it off or really being broken up about it. I would have liked that. The thing that I don't like about the current situation with Jacob is that he doesn't feel like Jacob when I talk to him. Can't really put my finger on it and that FemShep tries to get in his pants instead of having a decent disscusion. I would prefer it if you could save the relationship, but since there are so many LI:s I can understand that you can't have too many branching choices. Bad things can happen and that is just fine, as long as I get to roleplay it in a good way.

edit: For honesty's sake. I can live with Jacob leaving, but if I could get my ME2-Jacob back I would. Just not counting on it   =)

Modifié par SilentK, 08 avril 2012 - 10:50 .

[Visii]

We gathered 130 letters and art of the LI's from fans all over the world over the course of six days and turned it into a 200 page book. We presented it to the BioWare team at PAX, and they have promised to go through it.

Now, a digital edition of The Book, the very same book that is in the DEV's hands, can be yours.

http://k003.kiwi6.co...q2/the_book.pdf

Alternatively, http://kiwi6.com/file/0f67f2raq2.

Thanks for the support everyone! Keep up the questions about the LI's on Twitter and Facebook! Keep up the questions about The Book until we get some feedback on our feedback! And hang around, 'cause we're not done just yet!

[GameBoyish]

Visii wrote...


We gathered 130 letters and art of the LI's from fans all over the world over the course of six days and turned it into a 200 page book. We presented it to the BioWare team at PAX, and they have promised to go through it.

Now, a digital edition of The Book, the very same book that is in the DEV's hands, can be yours.

http://k003.kiwi6.co...q2/the_book.pdf

Alternatively, http://kiwi6.com/file/0f67f2raq2.

Thanks for the support everyone! Keep up the questions about the LI's on Twitter and Facebook! Keep up the questions about The Book until we get some feedback on our feedback! And hang around, 'cause we're not done just yet!

Aww man, you guys missed out on the PolymorphicGirl fanart!
That's okay though, I am glad to see the support for Jacob :')

[HK-90210]

Right now, I'm mostly past what has happened to Jacob in ME3. I hate it, and if it was changed, I would dance and sing and do the mantras every day, go to the Citadel and get a good job, I swear. But I'm not counting on that. I don't expect Bioware to going out of their way at this point. They made their decision, and they'll probably stick with it to the bitter end(see what I did there ).

That said, I do want an explanation from Bioware as to why they treated us this way. It wouldn't have been hard to give us a satisfactory conclusion to Jacob's romance, but they chose not to do so. As much as I resent that, and despite how unplayable it makes Jacob's(ME3) romance, I'll live. It's a game, afterall, not the centerpeice of my existence.

But still if Bioware could look me in the eye(metaphorically) and give me their reasons for this (IMO)blantant mistreatment of a group of fans, I would be feeling a lot better about all this. Not good, but less bad. More in the way of "Well, this sucked. Guess Bioware goes down a peg in my book. I think I'll go play Skyrim." as opposed to "I WILL NEVER BUY A BIOWARE GAME AGAIN."

Also, it helps no longer considering Jacob a LI in ME3. As far as I'm concerned, the man dies fighting the Collectors if my Shep romanced him. That's the Jacob she knew, that's the Jacob she cared for, that's the Jacob she has in mind every moment she spends trying to wipe the Reapers from the face of the Galaxy.

Otherwise, I love how Jacob turns out when unromanced, so he becomes a heck of a nice guy to see in ME3 for most of my Sheps. He's a symbol of what Shepard is fighting to save: the people who are going to be rebuilding humanity and the galaxy when the dust settles. I'm still a Jacob fan, just not a romanced-in-ME3 Jacob fan.

Modifié par CastonFolarus, 10 avril 2012 - 03:52 .

[SilentK]

Jupp, Jacob feels very strange when it comes to a romanced FemShep.

Here is a interesting thread about Jacob from the story-section on the Forum. Brings up why he isn't with the Corsairs and I would have loved something like that. And, it feels like he would be doing more for the war-effort then than sitting around the scientists.

http://social.biowar.../index/11224943

[Vicki Taylor]

Some whining from me as well. TL;DR to preserve your sanity
Okay, pre-ME3 Jacob was an awesome guy. A soldier through and through, tough, but still honourable, fighting for what he believes is good, wanting to protect the weak, etc. etc. His romance actually grew on me, at first, after these teen-like conversations and the final romance scene, I was like "Well, I pretty much accidentally that black hottie, I regret nothing". After a while though, I discovered I really liked him. He was quite simple, an usual soldier with all this fighting within him, so much death to deal with and lots of big things happening around. Also, not as annoying and boring as Kaidan (sorry, non-romanced Kaidan bores me to death and makes me wanna rip him in half sometimes). Yeah, I knew ****ton of people disliked him because of these dialogues written so badly it almost physically hurts. I knew people were shouting that he's boring only because he was black (FACE IT YOU RACISTS). But still, what BioWare did to Jacob's romance and character (and also Thane's), is.. disgusting. I wouldn't expect them to make one of major characters to change drastically in very important matters. In ME2, when asked about "Mrs Taylor", he said he wouldn't even want it, or something like that. And then, he starts a relationship with some woman (*resisting the urge to shout she's ugly and stupid and the only nice thing about her is her voice coz Lady Hawke FTW*) and decides he has to make babies NOW. Also, the encounter with him is so bad! These renegade options? "No one can see us"? How old are you, Shepard, last time I checked you were thirty not thirteen!

(can start reading now) I'm disappointed. I wasn't so disappointed since ME2's execution of romance with Ashley. IT SUCKS.

[GameBoyish]

I get so pissed whenever I see rude comments about Jacob on Youtube. That place is a freaking cesspool.

[wildannie]

 We need old Jacob back!

Would you support ME2 squad DLC or not?

vote on my poll please

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