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Post #1400:P

It's gonna be difficult to accrue thousands of posts in such a short time to enable the thread to catch up to the other character support threads. I'm not even sure if we can make 2,000 posts by Christmas.

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Off topic: Of the ladies posted, number 3 looks the best. And +1 for DeathDragon185's post about anime. Code Geass 4ever. Heh it will be awesome to pilot the Atlas mech with Kasumi at my side. while Harbinger geasses all the cerberus troops.

On topic: Yeah, it has been months since the last bit of info fragment, and that was: all characters will return. It would be nice if Casey could throw us an ambiguous sentence to pump life back to us.
Casey Hudson! I Shepard vi Britannia command you! Give us more info about Kasumi!

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You guys, I'm sure that in the past I've suggested a romance between Tali and Kasumi b/c they seem quite compatible, inter-species thing notwithstanding. However, I can also see a womance in lieu of an actual romance occur.

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Illusi0nz wrote...

^Well off topic or not it gets the conversation going. I do not want to see other character has more post like Jacob, T.I.M, Kaidan, Ashley, Miranda, Garrus, etc. in there thread then here in Kasumi! (And of course Shepard is exception for a thread but other character gets more then Shepard and Kasumi =/ ) Kasumi is #1 for me. and this much of posts and pages is not enough support for Kasumi.


Well I don't know about other threads but the Miranda one is the size it is because even the smallest detail, like one line or throwaway comment is hardcore discussed and analyzed. I've said it before elsewhere but there's only so many pictures you can post before you start repeating and only so many times you can go "omg I love x character! they're awesome lolololo" before no one cares. So yeah discussion is key.

Harder to do for Kasumi because she doesn't have full dialog. But not impossible. Things we might discuss:
  • What we think her character is like beyond the playful joking exterior (it's OK to extrapolate but try to base it on ingame evidence and to build it logically).
  • Background: how she became a thief, what/where was she before (where did she get trained doing what she does? She's a goddamn ninja:ph34r:)
  • Her stuff on the Normandy- she gives you history but is there more?
  • Relationship potential with Shepard or others both romance or friendship (for example, see my previous post on what I think her relation with Shepard is like)
  • Loyalty Mission details.
  • Graybox: Does she have one for herself? What about Keji? Should she have kept it? What did you decide/why? What was on there?
  • If there's any artists/writers that can create fanart/fanfiction post that and we can discuss what we like about it etc.
  • Where she might be in ME3 (we all hope by our side but if not how is she fighting the Reapers?)
  • Where does she end up post ME3 if she survives?
Just a few examples. But if I thought of these in the span of 15 min, surely we can come up with more at length and really kick off this thread.

That being said it's not all about numbers since joke threads can build up fast as well without saying nothing. Also I doubt Bioware counts posts to figure out which characters deserve screen time. Still talking about Kasumi with other fans is the next best thing to actually getting news on her right. So let's have at it!:wizard:

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CrutchCricket wrote...

Well I don't know about other threads but the Miranda one is the size it is because even the smallest detail, like one line or throwaway comment is hardcore discussed and analyzed. I've said it before elsewhere but there's only so many pictures you can post before you start repeating and only so many times you can go "omg I love x character! they're awesome lolololo" before no one cares. So yeah discussion is key.

Harder to do for Kasumi because she doesn't have full dialog. But not impossible. Things we might discuss:

  • What we think her character is like beyond the playful joking exterior (it's OK to extrapolate but try to base it on ingame evidence and to build it logically).
  • Background: how she became a thief, what/where was she before (where did she get trained doing what she does? She's a goddamn ninja:ph34r:)
  • Her stuff on the Normandy- she gives you history but is there more?
  • Relationship potential with Shepard or others both romance or friendship (for example, see my previous post on what I think her relation with Shepard is like)
  • Loyalty Mission details.
  • Graybox: Does she have one for herself? What about Keji? Should she have kept it? What did you decide/why? What was on there?
  • If there's any artists/writers that can create fanart/fanfiction post that and we can discuss what we like about it etc.
  • Where she might be in ME3 (we all hope by our side but if not how is she fighting the Reapers?)
  • Where does she end up post ME3 if she survives?
Just a few examples. But if I thought of these in the span of 15 min, surely we can come up with more at length and really kick off this thread.

That being said it's not all about numbers since joke threads can build up fast as well without saying nothing. Also I doubt Bioware counts posts to figure out which characters deserve screen time. Still talking about Kasumi with other fans is the next best thing to actually getting news on her right. So let's have at it!:wizard:

[*]Well, we do see what she is under the hood. not literally of course, but regarding her personality. Remember the red tose, and all the books she has. Another interesting thing is, that of all his stuff, none was stolen by her. She probably feels alone. That's why she built a bar into her room. To attract more people there. Oh, and if you look at her commant on the Kelly romance, you can see that she is BI.[*]Well yeah, she is more of a ninja then a simple thief. But works as one because she's too nice to be an assasin. Most logical would be running away from an abusive stepfather, living as a street urchin. There she could have developed her skills in stealingto get food. And one day, she found shelter from the rain in an abandoned house. Which was not abandoned at all, but the secret HQ of a ninja clan.[*]Well I covered that part. Except that weird whatever seat next to the bar.[*]I'm waay to lasie to scroll vack to xour previous post. Sorry. Wel her loyalty mission is among the 2 most personal ones, along with Samara, and Thane. After all they went through together, it is impossible for them, not to have feelings for each other. Of course, things go slowly like in a proper romance. So far, ME romances were like: I have been flirting with you for a week since we met, so let's ****. Except for Garrus and Tali. Speaking of which. I think her sisrer like wiev on Tali was very well written. Tali should have had lines about her too. Even Joker likes Kasumi. The Normady crew is one big happy family. Jacob is only a crush for her. True love is brought by the others personality, and I find the waste dispenser is Zaeed's room waaaaaay more interesting than Mr Taylor.[*]Hmm I don't know about this one. What else could there be. It kinda seemed like Hock and Kasumi know each other from waaay back, and that incident with Keiji was the last. Maybe ther real reason for the missionm was, that Kasumi wanted to face Hock. It's not like she was that subtle with her ninja suit, and Hock let her and shep to the greybox(simply thrown down to the table) even when he figured out the whole thing at the door. Perhaps Hock started his career as a simple thief, before becoming a rich businessman. Is it impossible that he and Kasumi worked together once? (Under the alias of Solomon and Helena Gunn) He becoming jelous of Keiji. Or he's the abuisve stepfather. Or the ninja master.[*]I doubt Kasumi has a greybox. If that were true, she would have all the memories she wants. On my last playthrough(with Mechler Shepard who is so far unromanced, since he is waiting for Kasumi) I let her keep it. I want to know what Sovereign was doing on it. Maybe it has something to do with what happened in Mass Effect: Revelations.[*]Good idea. I support it. My wall of teyt nees a worthy opponent.[*]Since Earth will be the beginning and the end, we can probably rule out Kyoto :( . But is she fighting the reapers? Wha tcan a thief-even an awesome one like Kasumi- Do against techno zombies and licing warships? Most she can do is steal some supplies from indoctrinated Cerberus troops and supply some colonies, but I think she is more likely to just support another former crew member. Maybe her fosrter sister Tali. Imagine Kasumi Zorah vas Neema heh.[*]Easy. With Shepard. Or perhaps the last we will see about her is visitingh Keiji's grave. I think he has one, even if it is a memorial, without a body under it. If she will not live with Shep, I think she'll retire and live a peaceful life back on Eart......[*].....Untill they annonunce a huge exhibition :D

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It's gonna be difficult to accrue thousands of posts in such a short time to enable the thread to catch up to the other character support threads. I'm not even sure if we can make 2,000 posts by Christmas.

Pfffft. Who cares.

Kasumi is like sake. It's less popular than beer only because those who love it are keeping it all to themselves.

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You know what I wish we could do? I wish there was an option to set up a character's weapon slots so that they can dual wield pistols or something. I can see Kasumi dual wielding a set of Phalanx or maybe two Locust. Combine that with maybe a Kasumi hologram distraction power and her aerobatic attack styles and she just seems perfect for my Shep :wub:

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1. She's actually very smart, serious, and good at math;
2. Kleptomania develops at a young age. If she's not a thief by trade in the beginning, I imagine her to be a travelling magician;
3. She certainly has magpie tendencies. Some of those stuff may even be purchased instead of stolen.

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ilovemesometurian wrote...

You know what I wish we could do? I wish there was an option to set up a character's weapon slots so that they can dual wield pistols or something. I can see Kasumi dual wielding a set of Phalanx or maybe two Locust.

I proposed that months ago and was eaten by rabid dogs.

http://social.biowar...1/index/7539546

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Happy family is right. Happy ASS-KICKING FAMILY :devil:

They added in Kasumi and Zaeed. Feel the Goto love! <3

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Wow. I only meant those as examples, that anyone could take and propagate a discussion about. It might be overwhelming to do it all at once.

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My whole next week is autumn break. plenty of time

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When I posted here, this thread had 300 posts. The DLC had been out for 2 years. We went from 300 to 1500 in a couple of months.

Woah. Am I some kind of prophet?

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Hmm. Just googled Kasumi and there's not a lot of stuff beyond the ME wiki page. Just various reviews guides etc on the whole DLC. That got me thinking of the following tagline.

Kasumi: She's the best squadmate in the game, not the most famous.

If someone made a banner of that I'd "wear it"

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 31 octobre 2011 - 04:50 .


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I think the thread started up agian when I started posting here.

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^Yeah it did. awesome. While i look around in masseffect.bioware.com/ there updated news but nothing about Kasumi and also here www.bioware.com/biowaretv

CrutchCricket wrote...

Hmm. Just googled Kasumi and there's not a lot of stuff beyond the ME wiki page. Just various reviews guides etc on the whole DLC. That got me thinking of the following tagline.

Kasumi: She's the best squadmate in the game, not the most famous.

If someone made a banner of that I'd "wear it"

Same for me, i'll wear it.

Modifié par Illusi0nz, 31 octobre 2011 - 05:43 .


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I still think we should take these a few at a time but a couple of things about this:

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Well, we do see what she is under the hood. not literally of course, but regarding her personality. Remember the red tose, and all the books she has. Another interesting thing is, that of all his stuff, none was stolen by her. She probably feels alone. That's why she built a bar into her room. To attract more people there. Oh, and if you look at her commant on the Kelly romance, you can see that she is BI.

There were a few things that were stolen. The bust for one and one of the paintings I think. There may've been more. Also I doubt she built a bar in a ship that for all she knew was only a temporary setup. More likely that observation deck was always a lounge with a bar and what appears to be some kind of recreational machine (video game terminal?)  Although how she got a bed and bookcase in there is a mystery.

Well yeah, she is more of a ninja then a simple thief. But works as one because she's too nice to be an assasin. Most logical would be running away from an abusive stepfather, living as a street urchin. There she could have developed her skills in stealingto get food. And one day, she found shelter from the rain in an abandoned house. Which was not abandoned at all, but the secret HQ of a ninja clan.

Maybe she finds killing people for money distasteful? She'd also be great at espionage but maybe she dislikes that too. She is a thief by choice. But I wish we'd stay away from daddy issues though there's already enough characters with those (Miranda, Jacob, Garrus). Also she loves being a thief so I don't know if being forced to cut it as a street urchin would work since that could very well be the most miserable part of her life. I think she lived a normal middle class life with her grandmother (the only family she mentions) but she either got bored of it and started stealing for thrills or began doing so when her grandmother passed away. Regardless of which she was old enough, a teenager at least. One day she stole something of value from a wise ninja master who despite catching her was impressed with her skills and offered to train her how to be truly invisible. Her grandmother's morals and positive outlook and the master's discipline shaped her into what we see today.

I'm waay to lasie to scroll vack to xour previous post. Sorry. Wel her loyalty mission is among the 2 most personal ones, along with Samara, and Thane. After all they went through together, it is impossible for them, not to have feelings for each other. Of course, things go slowly like in a proper romance. So far, ME romances were like: I have been flirting with you for a week since we met, so let's ****. Except for Garrus and Tali. Speaking of which. I think her sisrer like wiev on Tali was very well written. Tali should have had lines about her too. Even Joker likes Kasumi. The Normady crew is one big happy family. Jacob is only a crush for her. True love is brought by the others personality, and I find the waste dispenser is Zaeed's room waaaaaay more interesting than Mr Taylor.

Basically since I took her on just about every mission and always talked to her afterwards I began to see Kasumi as the squadmate Shepard depends on most. Everyone does their job and Shepard trusts them all after a time. But not the same way as he does Kasumi (even the ME1 gang. Garrus is too bitter about his lost squad and too lost in his calibrations and Tali just sprung this adoration on him and he's not sure what to do with it). In my mind Kasumi's ability to read people and the way you helped her with the graybox showed her Shepard is a kindred spirit and can be trusted and for Shepard's part, he relies more and more on her, not just for the mission but also in observing the rest of Normandy's crew. She's his eyes, ears and right hand. This is beautifully exempified on Jack's recruitment mission: "I'd take the offer honey. Otherwise things turn bad for you. Fast". I absolutely love that line because it's exactly what I'm imagining Kasumi to be. If Shepard were a villain she'd be his Dragon.

I don't see romance as necessary. The above relationship is perfect and will develop into a beautiful friendship (if ME3 doesn't screw that up). She's the only female on the Normandy he doesn't hit on because they both know they've reached perfect equilibrium. Besides my Shep's with Miranda and though Kasumi doesn't approve of the engine room I have no doubt she'd jump in to help the relationship with no hesitation (provided she felt her help was welcome). I like her and Tali getting along, but really she'd get along with anybody. Don't know about the "happy family bit" though. And yes I think Jacob's just a crush and a distraction from Keji. Why doesn't she distract herself with Shepard? See above for the "perfect equillibrium"

I'll cut it off here because this might already take up half a page:P

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 31 octobre 2011 - 07:04 .


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See I'm trying to avoid as many spoilers (except for those related to multiplayer) as possible so I haven't been looking around as much. I haven't heard a thing about her. This could be a very good sign though however.

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ilovemesometurian wrote...

See I'm trying to avoid as many spoilers (except for those related to multiplayer) as possible so I haven't been looking around as much. I haven't heard a thing about her. This could be a very good sign though however.


lol what spoilers?:huh:

Bioware will steal and reveal all of the following before they reveal any character details for ME3:
Secret Sauce formula
KFC Signature Recipe
Coke formula
Supersoldier Formula
The exact proceedure by which caramel is inserted in Caramilk bars
Who shot JKF
Half-Life Ep3 Release Date.

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The latest upcoming updates on Mass Effect 3 with the whole less squad then ME2!?, multiplayer, seems like more of a shooting/action game like Battlefield, etc. Instead of an RPG of what set apart in Mass Effect. I see most of the comments post about it that are dissapointed in how they took with Mass Effect 3. I hope it dosen't turn that way when is released.

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CrutchCricket wrote...

ilovemesometurian wrote...

See I'm trying to avoid as many spoilers (except for those related to multiplayer) as possible so I haven't been looking around as much. I haven't heard a thing about her. This could be a very good sign though however.


lol what spoilers?:huh:

Bioware will steal and reveal all of the following before they reveal any character details for ME3:
Secret Sauce formula
KFC Signature Recipe
Coke formula
Supersoldier Formula
The exact proceedure by which caramel is inserted in Caramilk bars
Who shot JKF
Half-Life Ep3 Release Date.


I'm talking about all spoilers period. Storyline spoilers, what's been confirmed and what hasn't, anything story related, any of the powers or gameplay videos. I won't even look at what Sur'Kesh looks like. I want the entire experience to be new. It's also why I will be downloading the demo but not playing it ;)

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LOOOL CrutchCricket
In terms of the whole balance between a good story and multiplayer I hope it's mostly weighed more on the story and singleplayer than the coop multiplayer that's why people buy mass effect
I mean look at MW3 people buy that for multiplayer
They need to develop more into the characters, which is my favorite part of mass effect
And by god, more development on kasumi for all our sakes...

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They damn well better or BW staff will find their valuables missing; undoubtedly stolen by a certain thief.

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Has anyone noticed our thread doesn't leave the first page of this Forum?....^_^

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Golden Owl wrote...

Has anyone noticed our thread doesn't leave the first page of this Forum?....^_^


We should keep it this way.