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[DeathDragon185]

yeah I nocticed that too.
Does anybody have a way to recruit more people to help support Kasumi?

[CrutchCricket]

I don't know about recruiting, I haven't been on there very long. But if you want to keep this thread prominent, engage in character discussion. I listed a few topics to get us started, so go with those or come up with your own. Otherwise there's just not enough to keep this thread on top.

[BlueMagitek]

I do like Kasumi; she's a fun character with interesting skills. And we finally get a Chaotic Neutral squadmate. ~_^

[Golden Owl]

CrutchCricket wrote...

I don't know about recruiting, I haven't been on there very long. But if you want to keep this thread prominent, engage in character discussion. I listed a few topics to get us started, so go with those or come up with your own. Otherwise there's just not enough to keep this thread on top.

I noticed your list and will be hitting them one at a time......just not today...but your list hasn't been forgotten by a long shot...

[Golden Owl]

BlueMagitek wrote...

I do like Kasumi; she's a fun character with interesting skills. And we finally get a Chaotic Neutral squadmate. ~_^

I hadn't thought of it that way...your right...

[BlueMagitek]

You could argue she's Chaotic Good, but the entire thieving thing kind of knocks some points off her alignment. ~_o

[Golden Owl]

BlueMagitek wrote...

You could argue she's Chaotic Good, but the entire thieving thing kind of knocks some points off her alignment. ~_o

Definitely Chaotic-Neutral...given I am running a Renegade/gon Shep at the moment and her apparently not to big an issue with his behaviour also....He takes Jacob with him (an example) and Jacob behaves like 'Jiminy Cricket' on his shoulder....whereas Kasumi doesn't seem too perturbed.

[BlueMagitek]

Well there really aren't a lot of evil actions you can take in Mass Effect as it is; Morinth being the really big one that you can. ~_~

But yes, one of my favorite squadmates.

[Seth Jayden]

I saw this thread first when it was at 18 pages....
Good progress people!
Now let us discuss more about the undying importance of kasumi's appearance in mass effect 3!

[Illusi0nz]

Yeah i agree with Chaotic Neutral. Makes her unique.
(Michelle Ang)

How is this look for Kasumi?

Modifié par Illusi0nz, 01 novembre 2011 - 05:14 .

[Ravensword]

Illusi0nz wrote...

Yeah i agree with Chaotic Neutral. Makes her unique.
(Michelle Ang)

How is this look for Kasumi?

She's pretty but more Japanese facial features.

[Ravensword]

Has anyone found it odd during the beginning of the Hock heist how Shepard gets dressed up nice and fancy for Hock's party wearing and Yet Kasumi isn't wearing any formal wear? It makes sense why Hock wouldn't want her to attend the party. After all, would you let someone wearing a sneaking suit and hood that partially obscures their face into your grand and lavish party? She could've worn a nice long dress w/ a stylish veil to conceal partially conceal her face. She actually infiltrates the party anyway by cloaking? Why didn't she do that in the first place? It's not surprise that Hock had a feeling that that was Kasumi who showed up at his door.

[Mechler]

Ravensword wrote...

Has anyone found it odd during the beginning of the Hock heist how Shepard gets dressed up nice and fancy for Hock's party wearing and Yet Kasumi isn't wearing any formal wear? It makes sense why Hock wouldn't want her to attend the party. After all, would you let someone wearing a sneaking suit and hood that partially obscures their face into your grand and lavish party? She could've worn a nice long dress w/ a stylish veil to conceal partially conceal her face. She actually infiltrates the party anyway by cloaking? Why didn't she do that in the first place? It's not surprise that Hock had a feeling that that was Kasumi who showed up at his door.

That would ruined the mistery of her face, which interests me far more than how Tali looks. Scroll back to my huge wall of text about the possible topics.

[CrutchCricket]

Ravensword wrote...

Has anyone found it odd during the beginning of the Hock heist how Shepard gets dressed up nice and fancy for Hock's party wearing and Yet Kasumi isn't wearing any formal wear? It makes sense why Hock wouldn't want her to attend the party. After all, would you let someone wearing a sneaking suit and hood that partially obscures their face into your grand and lavish party? She could've worn a nice long dress w/ a stylish veil to conceal partially conceal her face. She actually infiltrates the party anyway by cloaking? Why didn't she do that in the first place? It's not surprise that Hock had a feeling that that was Kasumi who showed up at his door.

I agree it did seem strange. I would've loved to see Kasumi in formal wear and the veil is a great idea. Maybe Kasumi was trying to pass as a servant? Don't know how common that is, and it doesn't explain why she still looks shady but....
In the formalwear scenario Hock could've still turned her down and she could've needed some time to change back into her sneaking suit. Meanwhile Shepard has to just chill at the party, maybe chat up some guests, scout out the place until she was able to sneak in. It would've made for more interesting gameplay.

From a tech perspective they probably just didn't want to/ have time to create a "formal Kasumi" model, same way they didn't create a "partially undressed loyalty outfit" Miranda for her sex scene.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 01 novembre 2011 - 02:03 .

[Ravensword]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Has anyone found it odd during the beginning of the Hock heist how Shepard gets dressed up nice and fancy for Hock's party wearing and Yet Kasumi isn't wearing any formal wear? It makes sense why Hock wouldn't want her to attend the party. After all, would you let someone wearing a sneaking suit and hood that partially obscures their face into your grand and lavish party? She could've worn a nice long dress w/ a stylish veil to conceal partially conceal her face. She actually infiltrates the party anyway by cloaking? Why didn't she do that in the first place? It's not surprise that Hock had a feeling that that was Kasumi who showed up at his door.

I agree it did seem strange. I would've loved to see Kasumi in formal wear and the veil is a great idea. Maybe Kasumi was trying to pass as a servant? Don't know how common that is, and it doesn't explain why she still looks shady but.... In the formalwear scenario Hock could've still turned her down and she could've needed some time to change back into her sneaking suit. Meanwhile Shepard has to just chill at the party, maybe chat up some guests, scout out the place until she was able to sneak in. It would've made for more interesting gameplay.

From a tech perspective they probably just didn't want to/ have time to create a "formal Kasumi" model, same way they didn't create a "partially undressed loyalty outfit" Miranda for her sex scene.

I don't think Hock would've had any reason to turn down Kasumi if she was actually appropriately dressed. When he tells Shepard to have Kasumi wait outside, his reason for doing so was b/c he didn't like the look of Shepard's guest. I'm sure any host would've reacted the same way if they saw somebody dressed like Kasumi. Not only that, Kasumi would stick out like a sore thumb in that party if she went into the party in her space thief armor. I'm pretty sure that Kasumi's suit violated the dress code. I can see no way for Hock to turn her down if she was wearing and evening dress.

Most likely the devs were a littlef lazy w/ Kasumi. I didn't know they had to create a partially undressed out fit for Miranda's sex scene.

[CrutchCricket]

Ravensword wrote...
I don't think Hock would've had any reason to turn down Kasumi if she was actually appropriately dressed. When he tells Shepard to have Kasumi wait outside, his reason for doing so was b/c he didn't like the look of Shepard's guest. I'm sure any host would've reacted the same way if they saw somebody dressed like Kasumi. Not only that, Kasumi would stick out like a sore thumb in that party if she went into the party in her space thief armor. I'm pretty sure that Kasumi's suit violated the dress code. I can see no way for Hock to turn her down if she was wearing and evening dress.

Most likely the devs were a littlef lazy w/ Kasumi. I didn't know they had to create a partially undressed out fit for Miranda's sex scene.

Actually Hock suspected that was Kasumi. Says so himself when he first confronts you via hologram in the vault. She says he's never seen her face but maybe she was wrong about that. Or it might simply be that "Solomon Gunn" was the only uninvited guest at the party and Hock figured that would be the best time for Kasumi to strike and that she might do so through "Gunn".

[ilovemesometurian]

I feel like Kasumi didn't wear formal wear because she didn't want to take the greybox without incident. I think she kind of wanted Hock to find her or notice her. It's also why she didn't go invisible when taking out the cameras in the elevator. I think she was sending a "here I am, come get me message" because this time it wasn't just a theft. It was personal. She's a sentimental risk taker. I think she wanted an excuse to kill Hock without being all MURDER MURDER REVENGGEEE like Zaeed. I think she wanted the confrontation just this once, for Keiji's sake. Redemption.

That's my theory anyway. I think it gave her a nice delve into her personality. I loved the Shadow Broker's dossier description about her.

[Quething]

That would explain why she has Shep help her. As much as the *theory* is that Shepard is this spec ops genius, even Inflitrator Shep has a reputation mostly for blowing sh*t up:

"I can be discrete."
"You detonated a nuclear bomb on Virmire!"

I mean, that was actually Kirrahe's brilliant idea and even my vanguard was perfectly happy to sneak in under cover, steal the cure and sabotage the base without Saren ever knowing she was there, but the Council doesn't even see it that way and they're the ones getting your reports. Someone like Kasumi who only knows what she can learn on the extranet is probably not going to associate Shepard with "undercover stealth wetworks" and think, oh, this is the perfect person to do a walk-in, walk-out with. But she definitely might think "if I 'accidentally' end up confronting Hock, this is the perfect person to help me shoot him in the face."

I like to think Shep pleasantly surprises her with mad spec ops skillz before it all goes to crap, though. She seems to genuinely respect you too much to have been completely using you for your muscle.

[CrutchCricket]

Quething wrote...

That would explain why she has Shep help her. As much as the *theory* is that Shepard is this spec ops genius, even Inflitrator Shep has a reputation mostly for blowing sh*t up:

"I can be discrete."
"You detonated a nuclear bomb on Virmire!"

I mean, that was actually Kirrahe's brilliant idea and even my vanguard was perfectly happy to sneak in under cover, steal the cure and sabotage the base without Saren ever knowing she was there, but the Council doesn't even see it that way and they're the ones getting your reports. Someone like Kasumi who only knows what she can learn on the extranet is probably not going to associate Shepard with "undercover stealth wetworks" and think, oh, this is the perfect person to do a walk-in, walk-out with. But she definitely might think "if I 'accidentally' end up confronting Hock, this is the perfect person to help me shoot him in the face."

I like to think Shep pleasantly surprises her with mad spec ops skillz before it all goes to crap, though. She seems to genuinely respect you too much to have been completely using you for your muscle.

I agree completely. I play Infiltrator and am rather pissed I can't live up to the name. Mass Effect could really do with some stealth gameplay. I remember doing Arrival and trying to be stealthy. I get to two guards who haven't seen me yet and decide to cloak. Immediately they react as if they've seen me. WTF?

Anyway I like to think Kasumi's aware of my stealth skills and though hers are better on account of her ninja skills she does respect me for them. Most of ME2's situation call for just going in and shooting everyone or diplomacy so she follows my lead. But afterward (provided ME3 doesn't blow this up in my face by killing her or Shep) she offers to supplement my skills with what she learned and missions from then on are a lot more sneaky:ph34r:

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 02 novembre 2011 - 12:52 .

[ilovemesometurian]

Yeah Kasumi just needed someone to watch her back and play it her way. You can tell she respects Shep by mad amounts because she lets him influence her on what to do with the graybox. She also says, "Kasumi Goto. I'm a fan." She seems almost spiritual when she first meets him. "You have a certain... aura about you. Like you've seen things no one else has. Even without knowing what you looked like, I knew it was you."

As soon as she said "I travel light. I already slipped my things aboard your ship." I was like MINE!
She's MINE! Me! All for me! I wasn't exactly sure who I was talking to though...

[CrutchCricket]

iOnlySignIn wrote...
In ME3 Cloak gets multiple evolutions, like all powers, and *actual* stealth gameplay (based on LOS and possibly noise/movement) is introduced. So probably it will be a more satisfying experience for Stealth enthusiasts who enjoyed Deus Ex or Commandos.

That'd be sweet, I just hope they don't spread themselves too thin gameplay wise. How many games have gone downhill because they tried to be jack of all trades and mastered none (and in worse cases succeeded at none).

[Ravensword]

CrutchCricket wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...
In ME3 Cloak gets multiple evolutions, like all powers, and *actual* stealth gameplay (based on LOS and possibly noise/movement) is introduced. So probably it will be a more satisfying experience for Stealth enthusiasts who enjoyed Deus Ex or Commandos.

That'd be sweet, I just hope they don't spread themselves too thin gameplay wise. How many games have gone downhill because they tried to be jack of all trades and mastered none (and in worse cases succeeded at none).

We can hope. ME3 better live up to the hype, or best yet, exceed it.

Modifié par Ravensword, 02 novembre 2011 - 03:49 .

[Mechler]

Ravensword wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...
In ME3 Cloak gets multiple evolutions, like all powers, and *actual* stealth gameplay (based on LOS and possibly noise/movement) is introduced. So probably it will be a more satisfying experience for Stealth enthusiasts who enjoyed Deus Ex or Commandos.

That'd be sweet, I just hope they don't spread themselves too thin gameplay wise. How many games have gone downhill because they tried to be jack of all trades and mastered none (and in worse cases succeeded at none).

We can hope. ME3 better live up to the hype, or best yet, exceed it.

Madness? THIS IS BIOWARE! Who else could pull a stunt like this. Blizzard? They would throw in Pandas against the Reapers. CD Project Red? They f-ed up Witcher 2 so hard I nearly cryed. They took the dragon age 2 treatment to unplayable level. Only Bioware can do it. By the way, It's nice that ya ignored my wall of text fight with CrutchCricket but reached the same conclusion with the Hock Heist. Of course this just prooves my ideas, but there is copyright on them. It's right here on mx des....whatthef......they were here jsut a minute ago. where are.....KASUMIIII!!!!