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GIFT FOR YOU!: Kasumi Goto in ME3 Support Thread


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#1651
Master Shiori

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Yeah, Kasumi has a mission where she joins your squad. What I'd love to know is how much content she has beyond that mission.

Hopefully she sticks around for a bit.

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Master Shiori wrote...

Yeah, Kasumi has a mission where she joins your squad. What I'd love to know is how much content she has beyond that mission.

Hopefully she sticks around for a bit.


She joins your squad for THAT mission I assume? Whether she joins you aboard the Normandy or not is unknown yet, am I right?

People are referring to it as a ''special'' mission. I wonder why. :P

Modifié par Ohei, 18 novembre 2011 - 12:12 .


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I wouldn't go expecting Kasumi to join you beyond a single mission she helps out with. They are cutting down on squad members and since she wasn't in the first game and wasn't a love interest in the second game and she's not a new character so she has almost zero chance of being a permanant squad member.

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Illusi0nz

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^That is a let down if that is what it is.

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Illusi0nz

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Off topic but, i just got an invitation. You guys as well?

"You've been invited to the upcoming Star Wars: The Old Republic Beta.

To be invited into the upcoming test you must redeem the code by 11:59pm on Friday, November 18th, 2011 at:
http://www.swtor.com/redeembetacode/

Once the test date is set you will receive an email from the SWTOR team with instructions on how to start participating in the beta."

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Kasumi needs her own spin-off. Same conversation system, but replace combat sections with stealth sections.

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Illusi0nz wrote...

Off topic but, i just got an invitation. You guys as well?

"You've been invited to the upcoming Star Wars: The Old Republic Beta.

To be invited into the upcoming test you must redeem the code by 11:59pm on Friday, November 18th, 2011 at:
http://www.swtor.com/redeembetacode/

Once the test date is set you will receive an email from the SWTOR team with instructions on how to start participating in the beta."


yeah I did too.

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DeathDragon185 wrote...

Illusi0nz wrote...

Off topic but, i just got an invitation. You guys as well?

"You've been invited to the upcoming Star Wars: The Old Republic Beta.

To be invited into the upcoming test you must redeem the code by 11:59pm on Friday, November 18th, 2011 at:
http://www.swtor.com/redeembetacode/

Once the test date is set you will receive an email from the SWTOR team with instructions on how to start participating in the beta."


yeah I did too.


As did I.

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I didn't. I've got the e-mail for the upvomming beta weekend stress test, but I still can't roll my Imperial Agent

Back on topic: I saw 2 different drafts and neither gives a pretty big role for Kasumi. Of course the first one didn't mention half of the squad.

The spinoff is a greath idea I think, A Thief or splinter cell like game but I still want someone for Mechler Shepard.

Another thing that could be nice(but rather unlikly) is for Shepard to be caught and put in an Alliance/Cerberus/Batarian/Whatever prison and we go with Kasumi(as the squad leader) in an Arrival like mission. You know like Kotor 2 and Dragon Age: Origins.

Hell Now I'm at two missions. I could write a whole game about Kasumi and Shep(New Bioware game:The Adventures of Helena and Solomon Gunn).

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Master Shiori wrote...

Yeah, Kasumi has a mission where she joins your squad. What I'd love to know is how much content she has beyond that mission.

Hopefully she sticks around for a bit.


Hate to spoil the fun, but I haven't seen any implication that Kasumi could join your sqaud beyond this one mission. At least not in this leaked script.

Also as much I would want Kasumi to become full time squadmate........ it's extremely unlikely if not totally impossible. Especially if your whole squad survived from SM. Now if Kasumi (and someone else) are only ones to survive, then Kasumi had higher chances (though even then they are slim) to become full-time squadmate.

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CrutchCricket wrote...
Continuation/resolution of greybox plot
Character growth and development- we would like to see Kasumi's character expanded while keeping some of her mystique, quirky humor and insightfulness


If that leaked script is any indicator, then BW had thought about this matters.

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Moondoggie wrote...

I wouldn't go expecting Kasumi to join you beyond a single mission she helps out with. They are cutting down on squad members and since she wasn't in the first game and wasn't a love interest in the second game and she's not a new character so she has almost zero chance of being a permanant squad member.


I believe on the contrary that not being a love interest is a great thing : writers don't have to deal with possible romance, non-romance or cheating issues from the previous game.
And even if she is not a "new" character, she is a DLC character, without large amount of interaction and conversation with Shepard except during the Loyalty Mission.

Those two points are major advantages for her, as writers just have to fill the (almost) blank page of the Kasumi's story in Mass Effect, without the same constraints as the other characters from both ME1 and ME2.

Modifié par ScrapperSteph, 18 novembre 2011 - 10:13 .


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ScrapperSteph wrote...
I believe on the contrary that not being a love interest is a great thing : writers don't have to deal with possible romance, non-romance or cheating issues from the previous game.
And even if she is not a "new" character, she is a DLC character, without large amount of interaction and conversation with Shepard except during the Loyalty Mission.

Those two points are major advantages for her, as writers just have to fill the (almost) blank page of the Kasumi's story in Mass Effect, without the same constraints as the other characters from both ME1 and ME2.

Excellent points! I hadn't thought of it that way, that her lack of personal content in ME2 could be advantageous to her in ME3. This should be added to the semi-polished list we've got going:

  • Significant screentime for Kasumi, including maximum possible squad time.
  • Maximum level of interaction including but not limited to full dialogue, banter and optional romance arc.
  • Continuation/resolution of greybox plot
  • Character growth and development- we would like to see Kasumi's character expanded while keeping some of her mystique, quirky humor and insightfulness
Additonal Advantages:
-Adding Kasumi to ME3 is less complicated than other ME2 characters due to her lack of interaction in ME2. There are no romance variables and very little backstory to keep track of. This allows writers nearly the same freedom in developing her character as they would have in creating a new one and with an established fanbase both dev team and fans get the best of both worlds


Modifié par CrutchCricket, 19 novembre 2011 - 01:12 .


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I hate to say it but why is the Female Shepard can have two human (male) in there squad team? One where if you saved Kaiden Alenko he will be in your team. And this next new guy character James Vega will be automatically added into your teammate addition and if i am not mistaken it is also a bi love interest (female and male shepard) What!?

While a male shepard there is no human teammate. Unless... You saved Ashey from ME1.

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Meening: You have to balance it out with adding Kasumi as perma squadmate. If Talis is perma so should her girlfriend.

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Illusi0nz wrote...

I hate to say it but why is the Female Shepard can have two human (male) in there squad team? One where if you saved Kaiden Alenko he will be in your team. And this next new guy character James Vega will be automatically added into your teammate addition and if i am not mistaken it is also a bi love interest (female and male shepard) What!?

While a male shepard there is no human teammate. Unless... You saved Ashey from ME1.


This only matters for LIs not for team build. ME2 had three human females and only two human males... but they weren't equally proportioned for romance.

So if there's an shortage of females LI-wise it doesn't mean they have to be human or on the squad. You could also get a Kelly situation.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 19 novembre 2011 - 08:03 .


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That is where the dull point. If Kelly is a LI even though she has no insignificant matter as much in the storyline. Team build okay i am for it. But if that is all, i am not all for it. Doesn't interest me. I am all for the possiblities and that is what Mass Effect should be. RPG Game not only just action game..

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2011-10-12 04:18 AM
For sure, better than the Alien who will die from sleeping with you some day, the other alien who will outlive you by at least 900 years, the human female that shows me why the Alliance military is crap, Little miss perfect, or the crazy called ****.

Short of her or some yet unknown female options for a male, I wouldn't take any of the ones we have. Maybe I'll set Shepard up as a new Emperor, where the state is his wife >>. But yeah so far Kasumi was the only one I seen that was charming and not either a dunce, a ****, or a ho.



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I am talking about ME3 in this matter. Not ME2. Joker will be an LI in ME3? So there is quite LI possibility for the Female Shepard. Damn alot of fans / posters there too.

#1669
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Okay guys! New tactic! Let's gather all the reasons why Kasumi SHOULD NOT be a LI(or just simply to get the treatment we want) that way we will see what we have to counter and the minimal ammount of con arguments will show how much more credibility it has thatn jokes threads about Blasto for squadmate and Aria/Shiala/Giana/Niftu Cal/Legion/Turian councillor/Illusive Man for LI.

For example: She was not in ME1-------Garrus and Tali were the only love interests that were.
She was a DLC character-----------Anders(not the serial killer. well actually...) says hello. From DLC charcter he became a BI love interest. Oh and Zaeed was also a DLC character but since Zaeed was free it shows that the Kasumi DLC is something special. Also let's not forget that she was planned to be in the vanilla version.
.Both Shepards have enough love interests.-------True but half of those are revolting. And btw there are some(not me) who want to have and expanded Kasumi but don't care about romance(and yes I said romance, not have sex with her once)

This is all I can think of

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I don't think reverse psychology works on forums...

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The Anders situation does fill me with hope. I think BioWare recognizes the potential popularity for her if she had a full dialogue wheel and romance. If she wasn't DLC a lot more people would give her a chance.

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ilovemesometurian wrote...

The Anders situation does fill me with hope. I think BioWare recognizes the potential popularity for her if she had a full dialogue wheel and romance. If she wasn't DLC a lot more people would give her a chance.


That's good to know. Kasumi's moving on up.

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Ravensword wrote...

ilovemesometurian wrote...

The Anders situation does fill me with hope. I think BioWare recognizes the potential popularity for her if she had a full dialogue wheel and romance. If she wasn't DLC a lot more people would give her a chance.


That's good to know. Kasumi's moving on up.

Moving up? Apparently I've been gone for too long. What's happened?

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I've made desperate attempts to keep the thread on the first spot and I threw up the Anders situation

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Just finished Stolen Memory for the first time. Kasumi is awesome, she moves like a cat.