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#226
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Chimerva used to have the techno turian avatar ;)

But it is amazing! I am thinking about changing my custom avvie soon. I wonder what to though? I've had cute Garrus on the steps hugging his knees for a loooong time now.

And I too, am in the no-hybrid/hybird baby camp. Cannot seeing working. Well, ever really. Adoption depends on the Shepard, but none of mine would adopt. They would rather continue kicking ass round the galaxy with the same turian watching her back. Or her funny bumps. Whatever Garrus prefers ;)

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Has it even been confirmed that Garrus won't be on the Normandy after the hearing? I don't see why he would leave, to be honest...

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LuskeRikke wrote...

Has it even been confirmed that Garrus won't be on the Normandy after the hearing? I don't see why he would leave, to be honest...


Not confirmed but the demos seemed to imply that only the VS and Vega would be greeting Shepard on the Normandy with Anderson being the only member of Shepard's squad before that (which presumably is the squad we would have right after the trial). Nothing is set in stone and there's only so much we can judge from the demo but there have been indications that we will have to "re-recruit" the squad.

I can't see him leaving either, he's not exactly going to be thrilled about going back to Palaven and hanging out with his family or anything but maybe with his sick mother he'll feel obligated to visit for a bit. Plus if Shepard is detained on Earth for a long period of time (we don't know how long Shepard has been on Earth either) then what else is he going to do until the trial happens?

It's hard to say where we'll find him, probably a safe bet that he's around Palaven some where but who knows.

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I'm more inclined to believe he'll be on the Citadel, after all he worked at C-Sec so it would make sense that he has friends who could give him a room for a bit

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having worked there for a bit, he may even HAVE a cabin on the Citadel. and being a part of Shepards squad, if you save the Council, he may have gotten special treatment (of course, this is before the events of Arrival) Honestly, i really really can't see him being anywhere but the Normandy. Kinda irks me that I have to see the VS survivor before i see my LI. but... i guess that may be a part of the drama that they mentioned.

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On the matter of hybrid babies, they are actually impossible in accordance with the in-game science. Of course, you could probably use Reaper nanides to splice something (horrible) together, but then again, who would want to give birth to that?

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Hybrid babies are fairly impossible in real life too. There are very few instances where it works, and only when the species are fairly close genetically.

hell, to get a Liger is a rare thing.

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I DEMAND MORE CALIBRATIONS!

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I agree. More calibrations, less hybrid monstrosities. :D

Or maybe "calibrations?"

Modifié par Eradyn, 16 juin 2011 - 02:53 .


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Mesina2 wrote...

I DEMAND MORE CALIBRATIONS!


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outmane wrote...

 oh its time for baby talks again? :blush:


Well ill put myself firmly in the 'no hybrid monster' camp. Im open to the possibility of Shep and Garrus adopting a child they saved somehow in what... 10-15 years? Once they are ready to retire. And thats not right after ME3 cause as long as they be good enough to chase bad guys, i dont see either stopping to open a store or do gardening on Eden Prime. 

As for how the Shepard backgrounds might influence all that well both Earthborn and Mindoir colonist have lost their parents and might feel living a high risk life isnt very suited to raising a child. Spacers could have a more open mind on the that tho (just my idea, of course ppl can roleplay as they like).


So, do you guys think the whole 'what will we do after' will be an issue in Garrus romance arc? Do you think he will feel the need to make sure Shep is ok with not having children of her own? And that shes ok with him not planning on retiring soon?

Personally i would like those questions to be touched in dialogues with things implied more then completely spelled out...  A little humor cant go bad either. 


One of the reasons i would  see a ShepxGarrus fail is if Shep feels like shes done enough for the galaxy and would like them to go live a tamed life somewhere safe. I dont see Garrus able to open a grocerystore somewhere or work in anything involving much paperwork. Hes a soldier and likes it.


I can't stand reading fics where they settle down and have a hybrid baby. Ew. Not fun at all.

Modifié par MissMaster, 16 juin 2011 - 03:50 .


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MissMaster wrote...

I can't stand reading fics where they settle down and have a hybrid baby. Ew. Not fun at all.


Overall I don't like fanfiction one bit, the ones I've seen are either highly out of character, or something worse than Twilight... :blink:

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So guys, I'm curious (and want to stop talking about babies), despite not knowing very much about Vega, how do you want/think him and Garrus to react to each other.
I can see Garrus not caring one way or the other about him as long as Vega gets the job done or isn't overly antagonistic towards him.
I just wonder if Vega is going to be very anti-alien at first with Shepard being able to either turn him away from that thinking or reinforce it. I wonder if having Garrus with you to help kill Saren and the human reaper will alter Vega's view at all. I also want to see his reaction if Shepard is in a relationship with Garrus. Vega could also be very pro-alien, which would definitely be different from your typical Alliance soldier view. That would be interesting, too.

Modifié par Surmansuuhun, 16 juin 2011 - 04:59 .


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Surmansuuhun wrote...

So guys, I'm curious (and want to stop talking about babies), despite not knowing very much about Vega, how do you want/think him and Garrus to react to each other.
I can see Garrus not caring one way or the other about him as long as Vega gets the job done or isn't overly antagonistic towards him.
I just wonder if Vega is going to be very anti-alien at first with Shepard being able to either turn him away from that thinking or reinforce it. I wonder if having Garrus with you to help kill Saren and the human reaper will alter Vega's view at all. I also want to see his reaction if Shepard is in a relationship with Garrus. Vega could also be very pro-alien, which would definitely be different from your typical Alliance soldier view. That would be interesting, too.


I know this may sound weird, but I would love to have a rascist aboard the ship, you see, in the mass effect games, being a renegade, really just translates to your shepard being an ****, and I don't have the heart to be an **** to everyone I meet, however as I discovered while I wrote the occasional artical for a friends blog, I'm a cynical bastard, but only to those who deserve it, the problem is, is that the characters in mass effect are mostly likable, so what I'm really asking is for there to be a character for me to insult without it baring on my conscience...

Is that weird? 

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Surmansuuhun wrote...

So guys, I'm curious (and want to stop talking about babies), despite not knowing very much about Vega, how do you want/think him and Garrus to react to each other.
I can see Garrus not caring one way or the other about him as long as Vega gets the job done or isn't overly antagonistic towards him.
I just wonder if Vega is going to be very anti-alien at first with Shepard being able to either turn him away from that thinking or reinforce it. I wonder if having Garrus with you to help kill Saren and the human reaper will alter Vega's view at all. I also want to see his reaction if Shepard is in a relationship with Garrus. Vega could also be very pro-alien, which would definitely be different from your typical Alliance soldier view. That would be interesting, too.


Vega is supposed to be that "new player". I wouldn't be surprised if he knew that he was supposed to dislike turians, and I think he might not trust Garrus in the start, but who knows, he might eventually ease up (like Presly did).

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BubbleSauce wrote...

I know this may sound weird, but I would love to have a rascist aboard the ship, you see, in the mass effect games, being a renegade, really just translates to your shepard being an ****, and I don't have the heart to be an **** to everyone I meet, however as I discovered while I wrote the occasional artical for a friends blog, I'm a cynical bastard, but only to those who deserve it, the problem is, is that the characters in mass effect are mostly likable, so what I'm really asking is for there to be a character for me to insult without it baring on my conscience...

Is that weird? 


Ha, this is why I have a hard time being Renegade. I like the characters too much to be an ass. Hell, even if Vega is a racist, I think I'd rather try to get him to see things in a different way with Paragon responses than just tell him to shut his racist pie-hole. If he refuses to see reason, then I'll gladly Renegade him in the face, but I would at least try to change his views. However, if he really is a racist d**che, I will revel in the Renegade responses. Racism is my hot button issue in Mass Effect. Pure paragon Earthborn Shepard gladly shot that guy in the face because he wanted to kill Turians (and she wanted to impress Garrus and that other Turian).

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LuskeRikke wrote...

Surmansuuhun wrote...

So guys, I'm curious (and want to stop talking about babies), despite not knowing very much about Vega, how do you want/think him and Garrus to react to each other.
I can see Garrus not caring one way or the other about him as long as Vega gets the job done or isn't overly antagonistic towards him.
I just wonder if Vega is going to be very anti-alien at first with Shepard being able to either turn him away from that thinking or reinforce it. I wonder if having Garrus with you to help kill Saren and the human reaper will alter Vega's view at all. I also want to see his reaction if Shepard is in a relationship with Garrus. Vega could also be very pro-alien, which would definitely be different from your typical Alliance soldier view. That would be interesting, too.


Vega is supposed to be that "new player". I wouldn't be surprised if he knew that he was supposed to dislike turians, and I think he might not trust Garrus in the start, but who knows, he might eventually ease up (like Presly did).



First when i heard Vega would be the 'new player' i was under the impression he would be the new version of the original garrus. Someone who would need mentoring. Then i read somewhere that hes a veteran soldier but jsut doesnt have much experiance with the whole intergalactic civilisations. So now im partial to the idea that he would still need some mentoring, not about morales and methods like Garrus in ME1 but about the whole intergalactic situation. In my head hes a bit like Ashley was in ME1. But thats all jsut suppositions on my part.

If Garrus managed to be respected in a Cerberus crew then i dont see how hell have a problem gaining respect from a new soldier on Shep's crew.

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LuskeRikke wrote...

Has it even been confirmed that Garrus won't be on the Normandy after the hearing? I don't see why he would leave, to be honest...


I don't see why he would leave either.
I know we only saw Anderson, VS, and Vega in the escaping Earth part of the demo but I swear I read somewhere that Anderson was just a place holder, and I'm inclined to believe that VS and Vega were also just place holders. It makes sense to me that Bioware would reveal a bit of the game but use place holders so there would still be some surprises for us when we actually play through that part ourselves.

and also, place holders aside, just because Garrus isn't waiting for Shepard at the door it doesn't mean he isn't on the Normandy. Maybe he's busy keeping the Normandy's defenses in check, afterall, they seem to be in the middle of a reaper invasion.

I don't know though, this is all speculation;)

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Platform_Error wrote...

LuskeRikke wrote...

Has it even been confirmed that Garrus won't be on the Normandy after the hearing? I don't see why he would leave, to be honest...


I don't see why he would leave either.
I know we only saw Anderson, VS, and Vega in the escaping Earth part of the demo but I swear I read somewhere that Anderson was just a place holder, and I'm inclined to believe that VS and Vega were also just place holders. It makes sense to me that Bioware would reveal a bit of the game but use place holders so there would still be some surprises for us when we actually play through that part ourselves.

and also, place holders aside, just because Garrus isn't waiting for Shepard at the door it doesn't mean he isn't on the Normandy. Maybe he's busy keeping the Normandy's defenses in check, afterall, they seem to be in the middle of a reaper invasion.

I don't know though, this is all speculation;)



As far as I know, Anderson is just a place holder. VS and Vega are permanent squadmates.
And I wouldn't want Garrus to greet Shepard on the ship while they're trying to escape Reapers, anyway...
My initial thought was, too, that he might be on Palavan aswell, but when I really thought about it, I highly doubt that's that he left, (which I'm sure I already made clear :P).

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Obsydian wrote...
 Kinda irks me that I have to see the VS survivor before i see my LI.

GRRRRRR That makes two of us Obsy.
I HATE THIS. I keep wishing [and hoping SO MUCH] BW does like a ME2 moment at the start. Literally IN THE INTRO. Have the LI show up briefly, like when the normandy was being evacuated and your ME1 LI was there. Im hoping we briefly see Garrus, even if its just a moment before the trail, or when Shep is being detained -something, anything! Just that moment will hold me off til I see him again in the game. 

   

outmane wrote...
First when i heard Vega would be the 'new player' i was under the impression he would be the new version of the original garrus. Someone who would need mentoring. Then i read somewhere that hes a veteran soldier but jsut doesnt have much experiance with the whole intergalactic civilisations.


I keep getting the impression James might actually be pro-alien. Or at least Im very much hoping he is. Itd be very nice for a chance to have someone show up & be happy and accepting to the idea of working with various races for a change sine theyre usually around humans most of the time. In game informer Casey said [this is back when his name was still sanders]: "...its not like Sanders is a dumb guy who is amazed by everything- he's a soldier. He's done his tour of duty."
Younger version of admiral hackett? XP Respectable and kind? IF this is the case - I dont see why he wouldnt get along with Garrus. Then again - this is all just part of my hopeful theories.

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If Garrus managed to be respected in a Cerberus crew then i dont see how hell have a problem gaining respect from a new soldier on Shep's crew.

Exactly. Garrus is actually [and should be] well known by now. He mentioned in me2 - "I think being part of the team that took down Saren got me some points." Now with helping to take down the collectors, he should get more "points" of respect from other peers.Posted Image I dont see a problem with Garrus not gaining more respect from new squad members. On the contrary - they SHOULD respect him because he's been such a vital part of Shepards crew for years. If I was a new soldier to the squad, Id definitely show Garrus and Tali some respect since theyve been with Shepard for FAR longer than me. Garrus is practically Shep right-hand man [..er turian]. Some some respect!


A-TEN-HUT! *salutes Garrus.....then glomps him* XD 

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Team dextro for the win! Amazing drawing there!

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Thanks! ^_^
I'm a little disappointed it is kinda grainy though, blamin' my scanner for that though. Damn thing barely works properly anymore... <_<

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The grainy-ness adds a neat effect, awesome work!

On the subject of Vega.. eh, we really don't know enough to speculate yet. We barely know what he looks like (only a few glimpses in the Earth demo and that image on the CE). Need more before I can form any opinions in that regard. I'm not really happy about having an entirely new person on the squad in the first place (I understand he is there for the new players and all) given how large our squad already is if you combine both ME1 and ME2 team-mates.

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