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[BasementCat00]

BubbleSauce wrote...

Oh but it's so worth it, It's a brilliant piece of literature, it is easily a thousand times better than the acctual mass effect books that bioware publishes.

It is indeed a masterpiece. Don't care what the other says about the hybrids in there. The author has captured the attention of the readers with her own characters, that's saying something.

Oh and have a garrus :happy:



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[Ariadnee]

I may not have looked hard enough....Anyone have a link for Spirit of Redemption?

[BubbleSauce]

Daww, that's such a cute picture.

[BasementCat00]

BubbleSauce wrote...

Daww, that's such a cute picture.

Makes my heart melt into goo when i look at it >_< Must... BREATHE!

Ariadnee wrote...
I may not have looked hard enough....Anyone have a link for Spirit of Redemption? 

Here you go And here's the link for Spirit of Truth if you are looking for it too.

Modifié par BasementCat00, 02 octobre 2011 - 05:59 .

[Obsydian]

Couple of thoughts. Never could kill Sidonis... but, like Bubble... i can't really play full renegade. Paragade all the way for me.

Last time Spirit of Redemption was mentioned on the old thread, it started a 3 day long war between people who absolutely hate it and those who absolutely love it. I, for one, have never read it. *shrug* Someday I might, but probably not.

Lastly.... OMGTHATTOTP!!! *dies from cuteness*

[Ieldra]

A question for the Garrus-knowledgable here: can Garrus die on his recruitment mission in ME2? What happens if his health-meter reaches zero?

[Aeowyn]

Ieldra2 wrote...

A question for the Garrus-knowledgable here: can Garrus die on his recruitment mission in ME2? What happens if his health-meter reaches zero?

Actually haven't tried that, but now I'm tempted to. I'll let you know. 

Edit: 

Dahlia Shepard honoured Adam Jensen by doing his dance while standing on the bottom floor, not closing the doors. Garrus health went down to 25% and was stuck there so I closed the doors. 

He had some hilarious lines though. Best one was "Close the damn doors and get up here!" lol. 



COD: Death by krogan. 

Modifié par Aeowyn, 02 octobre 2011 - 09:13 .

[Obsydian]

i like that the game doesn't let you go on if he dies. i had that happen on my Insanity runthrough.... i felt sad when i saw his healthmeter going down so far.

[Golden Owl]

Hello Garrus fans....Someone just challenged me on another thread in regards to 'Ruthlessness'...I have decided to examine it further in regards to the NPC's involved....So question for you: "Why in your perceptions is Garrus not ruthless?....Examples included please?"

[BasementCat00]

Obsydian wrote...

i like that the game doesn't let you go on if he dies. i had that happen on my Insanity runthrough.... i felt sad when i saw his healthmeter going down so far.

Ohh the horrors of Insanity!  Hated the part where i had to go down and shut down those damn shutters >_< Must have died like 30 times there!

Golden Owl wrote...

Hello Garrus fans....Someone just challenged me on another thread in regards to 'Ruthlessness'...I have decided to examine it further in regards to the NPC's involved....So question for you: "Why in your perceptions is Garrus not ruthless?....Examples included please?"

From the way he reacts after you spare Sidonis or after you kill Sidonis at the last minute, i don't think you can consider him to be ruthless.

Modifié par BasementCat00, 03 octobre 2011 - 12:39 .

[Obsydian]

OMG i know it took me like 87 tries to get through. Insanity is ... insane.

[k-baggs]

I wouldn't call Garrus "ruthless" because, renegade though he is, there are some ways in which he's actually more Paragon than he was in ME1. When he gives you the Saleon quest, he's all "maybe the hostages die, maybe they don't," but whichever way you influenced him, he'll still say that his Omega squad followed a "no civilian casualties" rule in ME2.

[outmane]

I think theres a diffrence between Garrus ideals and the way he acts when it comes to ruthlessness.I found that when I do play ruthless and professional Shepards, Garrus will often come across as idealistic compared to them.

That is, it seems to me that his ideal of how a Spectre should act clearly embraces the 'mission must come first' moto. Its the kind of 'professional' attitude you see with characters like Miranda or even with the Council for most of ME1.
But really Garrus is more of a passionate and compassionate individual that is driven by justice. We often talk about Saleon and Sidonis but an other example of that is if you take him to the end of the SM, he will tell Shepard that the collector base should be saved because so many lives were lost to it and distroying it would make their sacrifice meaningless. Of all reasons to keep the CB, that is probably the less ruthless/more compassionate one.

[Zakatak757]

I think Garrus is the role model to follow when making a "Renegon" character.

Ruthless/cruel to the wicked, often angry, but with a soft heart combined with good motivations and ideals.

Renegon ftw.

Modifié par Zakatak757, 03 octobre 2011 - 03:13 .

[Garnet]

joshuatheasmodian.deviantart.com/art/To-ErsbethShadowSong-261382112

I'm just gonna leave this here~

[Bugsie]

That's a lovely piece of art xGarnetx.

Also, if anyone's been following - I've updated Long Way Home, my take on Preitor Gavorn's back story.

Chapter 4.

[Sinilin_]

Golden Owl wrote...

Hello Garrus fans....Someone just challenged me on another thread in regards to 'Ruthlessness'...I have decided to examine it further in regards to the NPC's involved....So question for you: "Why in your perceptions is Garrus not ruthless?....Examples included please?"

I don't see Garrus as ruthless. He seems to value justice but sometimes his vision of it might be blurred. Like when you're doing Garrus' loyalty quest in ME2. Garrus really wants to make it right for his fallen team members but as you make him listen to Sidonis' reasons for betraying, you can hear Garrus is hesitating. Well, Garrus says it himself that he doesn't know what to do with grey as Shepard tells him everything is not black and white. He also comments that his instincts are what got him in the mess in the first place.

So, shortly: Garrus may be a little hot-headed but ruthless? No. To me, he is one of the most idealistic character in the game. 

[Nilfalasiel]

Obsydian wrote...

i like that the game doesn't let you go on if he dies. i had that happen on my Insanity runthrough.... i felt sad when i saw his healthmeter going down so far.

Same. On my Insanity run, he decided he didn't need no cover and got killed while trying to snipe mercs from one the inside windows. Although I reloaded as soon as I got his death animation, didn't wait around for a critical mission failure screen.

As for why Garrus isn't ruthless: he develops a "no collateral damage" attitude in ME2, no matter what you told him in ME1. He explains this while talking about how his squad operated. And yes, if you Paragon the Sidonis decision, his response is anything but ruthless.

[CdrRudyVakarian]

BubbleSauce wrote...

Zakatak757 wrote...

BubbleSauce wrote...

FLANDERS wrote...

Take the shot period. Never saved fist thing i will try that.

Read spirit of redemption, that'll change your tone

That is easily a 400 page novel, holy cow.

Maybe 15 chapters a night will be sufficient.

Oh but it's so worth it, It's a brilliant peice of literature, it is easily a thousand times better than the acctual mass effect books that bioware publishes.

Spirit of Redemption is the BOMB!! she should totally write for Bioware <3

[CdrRudyVakarian]

**SPOILER**
does anybody know whether or not Garrus is IN FACT a romanceable in ME3? Cuz so far all I'm seeing is Kaiden, Ashley, and Liara... if that's the case.... my ME3 experience just went WAY down

Modifié par CdrRudyVakarian, 03 octobre 2011 - 03:47 .

[BubbleSauce]

I certainly don't think he's ruthless, idealistic? Sure, but then again he was a cop so maybe that's simply in his nature. Maybe him shooting harken in the knee could be seen as a little too much, I personally think he deserved it and Garrus was very angry. (understandably so) Other than that I can't really think of any instances where he would be seen as ruthless. I know a couple of people like Garrus, in the PSNI namely. Sure they're idealistic and being the cynical bastard that I am, I'll take any operability to tell them that their head's in the clouds. But their good people and they want to make a difference, just because they a little carried away at times doesn't make them ruthless or monstrous they're just... well, passionate I suppose...

CdyRudyVakarian wrote...

**SPOILER**
does anybody know whether or not Garrus is IN FACT a romanceable in ME3? Cuz so far all I'm seeing is Kaiden, Ashley, and Liara... if that's the case.... my ME3 experience just went WAY down

Not sure if it's been confirmed but I would say it's be in there, they can't just ignore it considering it's inclusion in ME2 was purly fan-service and was well recepted. If it's not there, many signs will be drawn, many pitch forks will be held high and many Casey Hudsons will be castrated...

Modifié par BubbleSauce, 03 octobre 2011 - 03:54 .

[Lucky Thirteen]

CdrRudyVakarian wrote...

**SPOILER**
does anybody know whether or not Garrus is IN FACT a romanceable in ME3? Cuz so far all I'm seeing is Kaiden, Ashley, and Liara... if that's the case.... my ME3 experience just went WAY down

It would be extremely weird if Bioware decided not to continue his romance in ME3. Garrus has been shown as a squadmate along Liara in all the demo video's they been releasing, he's also here (SPOILERS) walking with Shepard and Tali at 27 seconds.

They've basically gotten the ME1 crew completely out of the way and revealed, except Wrex. He's the only one that's not romancable from ME1 now.

Modifié par Lucky Thirteen, 03 octobre 2011 - 03:54 .

[txmn1016]

CdrRudyVakarian wrote...

**SPOILER**
does anybody know whether or not Garrus is IN FACT a romanceable in ME3? Cuz so far all I'm seeing is Kaiden, Ashley, and Liara... if that's the case.... my ME3 experience just went WAY down

I think that the people at bioware respect the fans enough to not do this.  If they did exclude Garrus I honestly think I might  stop playing the game.  Having to fall back on romancing the boyscout (Kaidan) would be worse than total annhilation by the Reapers.

[Chewin]

The word "ruthless" is too of a strong word to describe Garrus' morality and personality. I can, however, see why some people would consider Garrus a "ruthless" type of guy.

For example in ME1, when a few hired thugs are assaulting Dr. Chloe on the Citadel, we see outright the inklings of his morals; he is quick to fire on these thugs even when they have a hostage, which shows that he is willing to put others in jeopardy and outright break the rules to uphold this sense of true justice. He took a risk at that situation. Garrus even states himself that he would enjoy living with no rules or restrictions, that he would bring more criminals to justice without the bureaucracy blocking him.

His actions in the first game are mostly reflective on your conversations with him. You can also by his conversation say that he is "ruthless" towards enemies and anyone trying to go above the law. This can be seen by when doing the Saleon mission. If you Saleon is killed outright, it impresses Garrus more in the short term; that evil can be squashed if you are just and decisive. Yet again showing that any means are necassary to achive justice.

Garrus is quick to act in extreme situations, not thinking about the consequences or his own well being when pursuing an enemy. Even Urdnot Wrex, which I would consider more "ruthless" than Garrus, goes as far as to coomed Garrus for this quality (though he berates him more for it).

PS. You don't have to be ruthless to be a ladies manB)

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Modifié par Chewin3, 03 octobre 2011 - 05:01 .