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AresXX7 wrote...

Sorry for the poor quality. (not my recording)

Here's part of the scene with Garrus giving Wrex a little bit of teasing. (as described by Cheez)

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Garrus teasing wrex!!!? Can't wait for this game!

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BubbleSauce wrote...

Surmansuuhun wrote...

Eh, they make Garrus Bi, they don't make Garrus Bi. I don't really care. I just want them to make Kaidan Bi. I've been wanting to bone that Biotic since ME 1. And even if they don't make Kaidan gay, some guy's going to get "indoctrinated" in ME 3 if you know what I mean.

...The hammer is my penis.


UGH! So pedantic! Just use Rohypnol, like a normal person!


But Shepard likes it when they struggle.

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Oh god, that's so terrible. I feel like I need to apologise for this. Let me go find a good Garrus screen cap...

Here:
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AresXX7 wrote...

Sorry for the poor quality. (not my recording)

Here's part of the scene with Garrus giving Wrex a little bit of teasing. (as described by Cheez)

-awesome scene-


*Head explodes from multi brogasm* 

#3654
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Gah double post >_<

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The comment that Garrus makes in this clip... priceless.

Modifié par Arcian, 05 novembre 2011 - 02:56 .


#3656
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Arcian wrote...

The comment that Garrus makes in this clip... priceless.


Captain mutha f-ing Kirrahe!!! OMG Image IPB 

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Garrus, Wrex and Kirrahe, the reapers are so doomed.

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Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Arcian wrote...

The comment that Garrus makes in this clip... priceless.


Captain mutha f-ing Kirrahe!!! OMG Image IPB 

MAJOR mutha f-ing Kirrahe.

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I've tried countless times to save the hopeless bastard and it never works!

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BubbleSauce wrote...

I've tried countless times to save the hopeless bastard and it never works!


You have to do a couple of things on the way to the bomb site

-hack a console
-shoot down a dish on a roof
-destroy those flying drones on the long path to the right
-turn off the alarms for kirrahe when you enter the building

do these 4 things and he will be alive

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The lovely artist.

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Thats funny I never knew Kirrahe could even die...

I guess its cause I always destroy everything on my way to Saren's base. They are all on the way so even my renegades just shoot those things as they run in. For the extra xp points.

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Arcian wrote...

The comment that Garrus makes in this clip... priceless.

Honestly, how does he not have one of those?

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Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Arcian wrote...

The comment that Garrus makes in this clip... priceless.


Captain mutha f-ing Kirrahe!!! OMG Image IPB 

It's Major Kirrahe now.

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Lady Olivia wrote...

No... I'm afraid this doesn't make much sense at all. You seem to be worried about the general quality of writing for the romances in ME3 (or even for all of ME3), and if that is so, the question of Garrus's sexuality should be the least of your concerns. Either the writing of Garrus will suck, in which case it will suck for the het-romance as well, or it will be as excellent as can be expected after the previous games, in which case it will be equally excellent for the s/s romace. Adding the s/s option has no bearing on this whatsoever.


Then I'll try and clarify myself further...I'm worried about all the romances, yes. But I only brought up my concerns with Garrus's s/s one because that was the focus of the conversation. I have equal or greater concerns for all of the other romances, but that wasn't what we were talking about. I don't have anything against making him bisexual, I want to make that part clear. This is just me expressing my concerns on this one topic. (Which I probably could have expressed more eloquently than "I'm unconviced", and that was a communication boo-boo on my part; apologies)

So more or less, my concerns with this particular romance is that they'll fumble the writing because Garrus may not have originally been "intended" as a bisexual character, and I'm worried that they may feel like they need to write in all sorts of complications that don't need to be there. And I'm also saying that if they don't drop the ball on it, excellent! I will be greatly pleased.

Does...that make a little more sense, now? I'm not singling his s/s romance out over all the others, just expressing what concerns I do have with it.

Modifié par AlphaDormante, 05 novembre 2011 - 08:58 .


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lordess-alicia.deviantart.com/art/E-mail-From-Garrus-267294826 <-- Made me squee with delight

..As did the leaked footage! :lol: So exciting! Even though it wasn't intended to be leaked, I think that it just raised even more interest in the game than before.. nice marketing tactic! :P
Arrrgh!! IS IT MARCH YET!??

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AlphaDormante wrote...

Lady Olivia wrote...

No... I'm afraid this doesn't make much sense at all. You seem to be worried about the general quality of writing for the romances in ME3 (or even for all of ME3), and if that is so, the question of Garrus's sexuality should be the least of your concerns. Either the writing of Garrus will suck, in which case it will suck for the het-romance as well, or it will be as excellent as can be expected after the previous games, in which case it will be equally excellent for the s/s romace. Adding the s/s option has no bearing on this whatsoever.


Then I'll try and clarify myself further...I'm worried about all the romances, yes. But I only brought up my concerns with Garrus's s/s one because that was the focus of the conversation. I have equal or greater concerns for all of the other romances, but that wasn't what we were talking about. I don't have anything against making him bisexual, I want to make that part clear. This is just me expressing my concerns on this one topic. (Which I probably could have expressed more eloquently than "I'm unconviced", and that was a communication boo-boo on my part; apologies)

So more or less, my concerns with this particular romance is that they'll fumble the writing because Garrus may not have originally been "intended" as a bisexual character, and I'm worried that they may feel like they need to write in all sorts of complications that don't need to be there. And I'm also saying that if they don't drop the ball on it, excellent! I will be greatly pleased.

Does...that make a little more sense, now? I'm not singling his s/s romance out over all the others, just expressing what concerns I do have with it.



Since im not much interested in a s/s Garrus relationship this is what I initiatly believed when the subject was touched back when s/s was announced by bioware. Then i came to think that since Im not gonna see that particular romance arc... I shouldnt be overly concerned. Yes the writing might be subpar and dont make a whole lot of sense (for Garrus or any other ME1 ME2 LI) but for some players its understandly more important to get the oportunity to romance who they want then how well it integrates the ME time table.

Edit: I sure hope s/s option with garrus would be well implemented. But with how Bioware has been handling big changes in relationships (im thinking Horizon) theres good chances it might not be as seamless as if they hadimplemented it right from the stard of the series. 

Modifié par outmane, 05 novembre 2011 - 10:20 .


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Surmansuuhun wrote...

Eh, they make Garrus Bi, they don't make Garrus Bi. I don't really care. I just want them to make Kaidan Bi. I've been wanting to bone that Biotic since ME 1. And even if they don't make Kaidan gay, some guy's going to get "indoctrinated" in ME 3 if you know what I mean.

...The hammer is my penis.


:D   <3 all of it. cept the indoctrination part. 

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LA LA LAAAAA *fingers in my ears*

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AlphaDormante wrote...

Lady Olivia wrote...

No... I'm afraid this doesn't make much sense at all. You seem to be worried about the general quality of writing for the romances in ME3 (or even for all of ME3), and if that is so, the question of Garrus's sexuality should be the least of your concerns. Either the writing of Garrus will suck, in which case it will suck for the het-romance as well, or it will be as excellent as can be expected after the previous games, in which case it will be equally excellent for the s/s romace. Adding the s/s option has no bearing on this whatsoever.


So more or less, my concerns with this particular romance is that they'll fumble the writing because Garrus may not have originally been "intended" as a bisexual character, and I'm worried that they may feel like they need to write in all sorts of complications that don't need to be there. And I'm also saying that if they don't drop the ball on it, excellent! I will be greatly pleased.

Does...that make a little more sense, now? I'm not singling his s/s romance out over all the others, just expressing what concerns I do have with it.


In case you haven't noticed, garrus wasn't meant to be a romancible character in the first place, so that point is kind of mute. And complications such as what exactly? And if you feel this way about all romances then why did you single out the same sex ones? Why would the writing for the same sex romances be any worse or any better that the straight romances.

Sorry, but I'm afraid if anything you've made yourself more unclear...  

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just popping in.... droppin this off. :D

cue Appleseed hug?

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BubbleSauce wrote...

In case you haven't noticed, garrus wasn't meant to be a romancible character in the first place, so that point is kind of mute. And complications such as what exactly? And if you feel this way about all romances then why did you single out the same sex ones? Why would the writing for the same sex romances be any worse or any better that the straight romances.

Sorry, but I'm afraid if anything you've made yourself more unclear...  


I already said that I addressed the s/s romance because it was the topic of discussion. Why would I come into the conversation and start talking about my worries for the Kaidan romance when everyone else is talking about the Garus s/s romance? It's a bit unfair to say things like I'm singling this one out when I'm contributing to the same conversation as everyone else is. The only difference is that my opinion isn't the same.

I also worried when I knew that Garrus was a LI for FemShep in ME2. I turned out liking his romance, but at the same time, there were quite a few of the other ME2 romances that I didn't like. So my worries were both founded and unfounded. Is it really so terrible of me to have the same mindset for ME3 romances? I feel like I've steped on toes when the only thing I'm trying to do is express my concerns =\\ I'm not denouncing s/s romances. I never was.

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Does anyone really believe you're going to be able to start a romance with Garrus in ME3, s/s or no? If so I'm afraid you're not being very pragmatic. Having a romance in ME2 and then implementing another opportunity in the game immediately after is a little ridiculous. The presence of two romance pathways (and likely two friendship pathways adjoined) which must logically at some point converge involves a large number of new variables and heightened complexity which can only result in either the pre-existing romance or new romance being neglected for the sake of the other.

Already in ME2 we have seen the friendship with both Garrus and Tali radically condensed as romance becomes available. The platonic relationship focus for both genders was significantly reduced. The result of increasing permutations here would likely be even less satisfactory.

If you still don't believe me take a look at Liara in ME2. She comes across as the developer's favourite in the series. Plot armor, patent coercion towards her romance both in-game and in the comic and an entire DLC to herself. Yet if there wasn't a romance flagged from ME1, an ME2 romance was made impossible, so that Shepard could continue but not instigate a relationship in LOTSB.

Quite frankly, if Bioware's golden girl was not given special treatment in this department then don't bet on any of the ME2 crowd becoming available again.

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AlphaDormante wrote...

BubbleSauce wrote...

In case you haven't noticed, garrus wasn't meant to be a romancible character in the first place, so that point is kind of mute. And complications such as what exactly? And if you feel this way about all romances then why did you single out the same sex ones? Why would the writing for the same sex romances be any worse or any better that the straight romances.

Sorry, but I'm afraid if anything you've made yourself more unclear...  


I already said that I addressed the s/s romance because it was the topic of discussion. Why would I come into the conversation and start talking about my worries for the Kaidan romance when everyone else is talking about the Garus s/s romance? It's a bit unfair to say things like I'm singling this one out when I'm contributing to the same conversation as everyone else is. The only difference is that my opinion isn't the same.

I also worried when I knew that Garrus was a LI for FemShep in ME2. I turned out liking his romance, but at the same time, there were quite a few of the other ME2 romances that I didn't like. So my worries were both founded and unfounded. Is it really so terrible of me to have the same mindset for ME3 romances? I feel like I've steped on toes when the only thing I'm trying to do is express my concerns = I'm not denouncing s/s romances. I never was.


Your last post did not come to me as aggressive or denying the imbalance of romance options in the ME series as you seem to worry about. 

Its normal to worry about implementation of s/s romance with characters like Garrus. Cause bioware doesnt have a perfect record with handling big changes in relationships. But the ones who have the most at stake are players who are waiting for the occasion to finally play their Shep as they expect him to be. In the end, how s/s would be implemented with Garrus wouldnt make much difference for ppl who dont want to experience it (since Bioware romances are ususally optional and initiated by the player).

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Obsydian wrote...

Surmansuuhun wrote...

Eh, they make Garrus Bi, they don't make Garrus Bi. I don't really care. I just want them to make Kaidan Bi. I've been wanting to bone that Biotic since ME 1. And even if they don't make Kaidan gay, some guy's going to get "indoctrinated" in ME 3 if you know what I mean.

...The hammer is my penis.


:D   <3 all of it. cept the indoctrination part. 


Well, I certainly didn't mean indoctrination in its actual form. Just used a Mass Effect specific word as a ridiculous and non-sensical double entendre. So, to put it differently, some guy in Mass Effect 3 is going to be Commander Shepard's favorite screw on the Citadel. And the Normandy. And the Mako 2.0. And maybe even a dying Reaper for the lulz. As it's going down, so is Shepard. ;D

Ok, I'm done.

And in Councilor Valern's chambers.


Hahaha, a TotP on this post?! Here's another screen cap:

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