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[outmane]

What happens in ME3 should really help the interpretation of the ME2 romance scene.

If the relationship evoles into something serious in ME3 then we can really see the ME2 convo+headbump as the awkward start of something bigger. I think it would make perfect sense, given who Garrus and Shep are and the way they handle feelings like Obsy said, that they struggle at bit to turn their friendship into something more. At the end of ME3 they could look back on it and think ' I cant believe it took us so long to figure it out' and have a laugh.

Looking at it over the potential of the 3 games makes the ME2 finale's little struggles kind of endearing instead of making it feel like it killed the romance of the moment.

Of coruse it all depends if what people say about the leaks do happen in ME3.

[Ariadnee]

 I think I'm going to retreat back to here & Clan V and avoid the rest of the forums. All the vitriolic Tali-hate going on in the main forums is doing my head in. I'm hoping they don't turn their attention to the other half of Team Dextro  

Modifié par Ariadnee, 28 novembre 2011 - 07:00 .

[FuzzyFreaks]

Ariadnee wrote...

 I think I'm going to retreat back to here & Clan V and avoid the rest of the forums. All the vitriolic Tali-hate going on in the main forums is doing my head in. I'm hoping they don't turn their attention to the other half of Team Dextro  

I don't post much but this is one of the most chilled out threads in the forums.

[Obsydian]

we try really hard to stay chill. occassionally there's some Kaidan hate, but meh. nothing too overt. we're kinda like a family. we have our disputes, but we still love each other.

and Tali-hate? why? that seems random.

[FuzzyFreaks]

Obsydian wrote...

we try really hard to stay chill. occassionally there's some Kaidan hate, but meh. nothing too overt. we're kinda like a family. we have our disputes, but we still love each other.

and Tali-hate? why? that seems random.

I'm insanely mellow, there isn't a character I hate, even Miranda and Jacob have some redeeming qualities once you give them a chance.

Although I did swear at Kaidan a bit on my canon no-spoilers playthrough because of his massive hissy-fit.

Garrus was there to console me though.

Poor Tali tends to get a lot of flak because some of her fans are deeply weird in a "working out what her sweat would taste like complete with chemical formulas" kind of way.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Only a few Tali fans were like that in the old days. The problem is that that incident was so widely broadcasted, that it has become a stereotype for all Tali fans. I post on the Tali thread frequently, and most of the people on there are pretty cool.

But I am seeing an increase in hate towards Team Dextro. I mean, yeah, they have been in all 3 games as (squadmates?) But it seems that a lot of the fans of the human characters are just being jealous of Team Dextro. But I still don't understand the point in attacking the fanbases.

I am even seeing Garrus hate. Something that was unheard of before the ME3 forums...

[Obsydian]

wow. Garrus hate. thats a new one.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Desperate times Obsy.

[Chewin]

You cannot know love if you have not felt hate, you cannot know saddness without knowing happiness. Everything works together, you need both sides of the coin.







What?

Modifié par Chewin3, 28 novembre 2011 - 09:04 .

[Garnet]

Obsydian wrote...

wow. Garrus hate. thats a new one.

They're obviously jealous of dat glorious turian booty.

I was going to make some comment about Shepard's romance, but I think everyone's pretty much covered my thoughts on that. You guys express my thoughts better than I can.

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Modifié par xGarnetx, 28 novembre 2011 - 09:10 .

[Bugsie]

^ those are great!

I love my team dextro, but yeah Tali hate is nothing new guys, been around long enough to know that.  But for the most of it it's just a lot of guys swinging their male chickens around.  Which seems to be a way of BSN of late (just a personal observation of the hardcore lurker).

I think because Liara, Tali and Garrus have supposedly been treated 'favourably' over other characters according to the spoilers (not that I would know because I haven't read any) they is a lot of anonmosity from other character fans.  On one hand I can sympathise, being a fan of Miranda and Thane fan too, but on the other I wish people wouldn't take what is written in those filthy hacker notes as a done deal.  The insults and trolling leave me pretty cold.

As for Garrus hate, oh yeah, definitely out there, had to leave one particular group because of it, even though it was supposedly in jest, it got a little much for this thin skinned Garrus fangirl.

And damn, I wish I could draw a turian, any turian, the process ends at step three for me! 


By Canadian rainwater on DA.

[UrsulaCousland]

 I've pretty much confined myself to here, the Fenris thread, and Clan V for similar reasons (the most chill places on these boards). Both threads are very family/friend-ish for the most part and pretty accepting.

(Substitute Anders for Kaidan and you have the occasional 'argument' on the Fenris board, but it's pretty tame.)

I *love* the latest arts...clearly I haven't had much time to browse DA lately. Garrus+Femshep+Ilium seems to be a popular theme these days, or is it just me?

[AlphaDormante]

I may be one of the few, but I liked Garrus' ME2 romance scene quite a bit. I think it shows how their relationship works quite well. Even though Garrus clearly put a lot of effort and planning into the date, when the time comes for words, he just doesn't know what to say - even when Shepard gets him to wind down, he goes from stammering pick-up lines to deep-seated concerns, and only calms down when she reaches forward and touches him. I absolutely love how the most heartfelt moment comes from complete silence and physical contact between the two, and I feel as though that's the working status quo for their relationship.

I've posted this before, but here's an example - when Garrus is shot as the fire team leader, he doesn't say anything there, either - he reels, Shepard rushes over, he looks up and makes eye contact, and she pats him on the shoulder and moves away all within moments. Those few seconds said a lot to me. Another example is when Shepard first touches his arm during one of their romance conversations; he shifts a little before she actually makes contact, but after she does, he looks completely comfortable despite the fact that this seems the first time she's touched him like that - at least on-screen, and if not the first time at all, then certainly at least the first time it's been meant intimately.  Those kind of quiet, unspoken communications really do it for me.

That said! I pose a fun question unto you, my friends: what would Garrus have done if his squad on Omega were still alive when she came looking to recruit him? Would he have entrusted them the task of holding down the fort? Promised to forward any intel he came across, but stayed to fight for the people who, unlike Shepard, couldn't fight for themselves? What would his turian sense of honor dictate?

[Xannerz]

Garrus hate.

That's a funny joke.



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AlphaDormante wrote...

That said! I pose a fun question unto you, my friends: what would Garrus have done if his squad on Omega were still alive when she came looking to recruit him? Would he have entrusted them the task of holding down the fort? Promised to forward any intel he came across, but stayed to fight for the people who, unlike Shepard, couldn't fight for themselves? What would his turian sense of honor dictate?

Didn't Garrus say that sacrifing the Council and focusing attacks on Sovereign in ME1 was the greater priority? Thus, using that logic, one could argue that Garrus would bring his team to help Shepard's mission to stop the Collectors in ME2 - since vanishing human colonies/the Reapers are a bigger deal than saving the people on Omega from injustice. He'd go after the bigger fish, the bigger problem.

Modifié par Xannerz, 29 novembre 2011 - 12:33 .

[outmane]

Id say hed bring his team too.

My interpretation of GarrusXOmega is that hes there cause its the only place he found where he could make a diffrence the way he wants to do it. He never gave the impression he wanted to stay there or had personal ties to the place. And he said that the Collector issue was more then a strictly human problem.

If shep is ok with it hed probably ask his team if they want to help and let them choose.

[DarthEmpress]

AlphaDormante wrote...

I may be one of the few, but I liked Garrus' ME2 romance scene quite a bit. I think it shows how their relationship works quite well. Even though Garrus clearly put a lot of effort and planning into the date, when the time comes for words, he just doesn't know what to say - even when Shepard gets him to wind down, he goes from stammering pick-up lines to deep-seated concerns, and only calms down when she reaches forward and touches him. I absolutely love how the most heartfelt moment comes from complete silence and physical contact between the two, and I feel as though that's the working status quo for their relationship.

I've posted this before, but here's an example - when Garrus is shot as the fire team leader, he doesn't say anything there, either - he reels, Shepard rushes over, he looks up and makes eye contact, and she pats him on the shoulder and moves away all within moments. Those few seconds said a lot to me. Another example is when Shepard first touches his arm during one of their romance conversations; he shifts a little before she actually makes contact, but after she does, he looks completely comfortable despite the fact that this seems the first time she's touched him like that - at least on-screen, and if not the first time at all, then certainly at least the first time it's been meant intimately.  Those kind of quiet, unspoken communications really do it for me.

That said! I pose a fun question unto you, my friends: what would Garrus have done if his squad on Omega were still alive when she came looking to recruit him? Would he have entrusted them the task of holding down the fort? Promised to forward any intel he came across, but stayed to fight for the people who, unlike Shepard, couldn't fight for themselves? What would his turian sense of honor dictate?

*tear* Wonderfully expressed!  I'm one who was initially worried the Garrus romance would end up more like a fling or friends-with-benefits thing.  However, after subsequent playthroughs it definitely seems more emotional and special, like it's all leading up to something amazing.  I do wish there had been more romantic content in ME2 like in other Bioware games.  I loved Kelly and Kasumi commenting on the relationship, but I wish Shepard could've had the option to ask others for their input like Joker and Tali.  Also, it would've been really cute to overhear crew members talking about them...Kasumi said lots of people wanted to see Garrus and Shepard together (I know it's probably a nod to the fans but still)

One thing that still bugs me is that Shepard has to be the one to start the relationship.  I feel kind of bad for jumping on him all cougar-like!  I think if there had been some acknowledgment prior to the reach and flexibility conversation, or even during it, that Garrus was attracted to Shepard it would've felt less...pushy!

And having Garrus' whole squad on the Normandy would've been great!  But I get the feeling he would choose to go with Shepard alone so his team could remain on Omega and keep fighting.

Modifié par SuranaMage, 29 novembre 2011 - 06:02 .

[Pyn]

 Playing with Autodesk 3ds Max trial, so if some of it looks off is because it's still a Work In Progress with the positioning/posing..... ..I need to find femShep model(s) etc next...

[Sharizah]

Arcian wrote...

Obsydian wrote...

wow. Garrus hate. thats a new one.

They don't actually hate Garrus, they just hate that he is being given more screen time than other characters. I can understand them, and I hope this is something they will correct before ME3 is released.

Garrus cannot have too much screen time

Modifié par Sharizah, 29 novembre 2011 - 11:27 .

[Sohe]

ok regarding the Relationship with Garrus, Am I the only one who thinks its a little odd that after the suicide mission, Their is like a 6 or 7 month time gap? I mean if Shepards being held in space jail/prison for so long, How would Garrus know if their was still a relationship, or if Shepard was still intrested in him? Would they even let Shepard try to contact Garrus/anyone after the events of Arrival DLC?

[Sohe]

Arcian wrote...

Sohe wrote...

ok regarding the Relationship with Garrus, Am I the only one who thinks its a little odd that after the suicide mission, Their is like a 6 or 7 month time gap? I mean if Shepards being held in space jail/prison for so long, How would Garrus know if their was still a relationship, or if Shepard was still intrested in him? Would they even let Shepard try to contact Garrus/anyone after the events of Arrival DLC?

There is a 6/7 month gap between the end of ME2 and Arrival, and a 2 month gap between Arrival and ME3.

During those 2 months, Garrus leaves the Normandy to s-err, do some stuff. And no, Shepard is not allowed to talk to his squadmates while in custody on Earth. He is completely isolated, and only Anderson, Vega and the Alliance brass has access to him.

ok that clears up the time gap, but what I dont understand is if they even try (or if Garrus knows) that femshep is even still interested. I mean after a few months, i would wonder if someone was still interested too, it's all just a little confusing to me

Modifié par Sohe, 29 novembre 2011 - 02:37 .

[Mims]

Garrus will most likely ask about the status of the relationship, just like I assume all the LIs will.

There's pretty much no way to avoid that sort of scenario with a game like this- the game doesn't know if you meant to stick with Garrus or move on to someone else in the third game.

[outmane]

Sohe wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Sohe wrote...

ok regarding the Relationship with Garrus, Am I the only one who thinks its a little odd that after the suicide mission, Their is like a 6 or 7 month time gap? I mean if Shepards being held in space jail/prison for so long, How would Garrus know if their was still a relationship, or if Shepard was still intrested in him? Would they even let Shepard try to contact Garrus/anyone after the events of Arrival DLC?

There is a 6/7 month gap between the end of ME2 and Arrival, and a 2 month gap between Arrival and ME3.

During those 2 months, Garrus leaves the Normandy to s-err, do some stuff. And no, Shepard is not allowed to talk to his squadmates while in custody on Earth. He is completely isolated, and only Anderson, Vega and the Alliance brass has access to him.

ok that clears up the time gap, but what I dont understand is if they even try (or if Garrus knows) that femshep is even still interested. I mean after a few months, i would wonder if someone was still interested too, it's all just a little confusing to me

Its the same with all squadmates actually. I think its more of a game design problem. since its not RL and its not a date simulator... they live you to fill the blanks with what ever you want yoru headcanon to be. Pretty much like ME1 actually... Did VS/Liara and Shep keep the relation going or was it on the slippery slope since they gave the the boot to Sovereign? Its up to the player. What they tried to do in ME2 is the little invitation scenes you get after the SM. So thats already a step from ME1.

Specifically for Garrus, I dont think its that bad. Like AlphaDormante pointed out a few posts ago, Shep and Garrus dont always need to talk. The scene with him as fire team leader is so telling about ho close they are. Im having more problem with not being able to talk to Miranda or Thane again then Garrus... I jsut feel that things between him and Shep are... 'understood'.


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Modifié par outmane, 29 novembre 2011 - 03:48 .