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i love the part where garrus emerges from the abyss and smokes the guy at the back of the head.

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I can enjoy a smutty bitey scratchy ooc fic :whistle:, but I very much agree that Garrus is a total gentleman. No doubt about it. He respects females, especially femshep, he even tells her, "there's no one I respect more than you."
I think their first time together would be tender, cautious, and a little awkward, as apposed to crazy/violent/best sex ever! like so many fics seem to make it. I think they would end up laughing a lot and making jokes to keep each other comfortable. And of course there would be lots of eye contact *sigh*:wub:

*goes off to practice writing love scenes*

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this is my love scene inspiration song

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Arc, that just made me giggle a lot.

i tend to call it either a Scouter (mostly cause i heard other people calling it that) or an eyepiece (cause thats what it is) or a visor. Visor is what i use most though.

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Yeah, I call it his "visor" too. And everyone can like whatever kind of fanfic they like!

Also, vaguey vagueness: http://twitter.com/#...658216956895232

Please let it be related to Shirtless Garrus. I'm just grabbing a tiny crumb of hope here, but please.

Shirtless Garrus.

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I was playing ME2 the other day and something struck me - does anyone else like to believe that Garrus was 'fired' from C-sec shortly after the events of ME? I always found it odd that a paragon Garrus, who swore that he will use his experience traveling with Shepard to go back to C-sec and "make a difference", decided to run to Omega and play space-batman.

The way I see it, Garrus rejoined C-sec immediately after the battle of the Citadel. Naturally Garrus shared his experiences on Ilos and Virmire with his superiors, both revealing the truth about Sovereign's origins and warning them of the coming invasion, but quickly grew frustrated when his accounts were casually dismissed as "rumors spread by Saren" and numerous rebuttals of "Saren's flagship was of Geth design". Unfettered, Garrus began a thorough investigation of the clean-up process on the Citadel. He soon found, however, that direct access to zones littered with debris from Sovereign were uncharacteristically restrictive for someone of his rank, as was any information gathered from said zones. Needless to say, Garrus became suspicious and began grilling C-sec higher-ups with blunt, to-the-point questions pertaining to said restrictions and lack of any substantial information, and generally stuck his (nose?) in places it didn't belong (this could also be a potential explanation of Garrus' knowledge of the Thanix Cannon).

To sum it up, C-sec (and possibly the Council) decided that the meddling of one of the Citadel's saviors was more trouble than he was worth, and fired Garrus, thus triggering his exodus to Omega (Shepard's death would eventually play a part in it as well).

This scenario can ring true for a renegade Garrus as well. Simply put, the council disliked the fact that a potential spectre candidate could be easily manipulated by half-truth theories and speculation, thus, Garrus had his name removed from consideration.

I personally like these explanations, as they not only stay true to Garrus' ME personality, but also provide background information on Garrus' failure to follow through the goals he laid for himself post-ME.

Anyways, I was curious as to what everyone else thought about this.

Modifié par -Skorpious-, 23 juin 2011 - 05:41 .


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-Skorpious- wrote...

I was playing ME2 the other day and something struck me - does anyone else like to believe that Garrus was 'fired' from C-sec shortly after the events of ME? I always found it odd that a paragon Garrus, who swore that he will use his experience traveling with Shepard to go back to C-sec and "make a difference", decided to run to Omega and play space-batman.

The way I see it, Garrus rejoined C-sec immediately after the battle of the Citadel. Naturally Garrus shared his experiences on Ilos and Virmire with his superiors, both revealing the truth about Sovereign's origins and warning them of the coming invasion, but quickly grew frustrated when his accounts were casually dismissed as "rumors spread by Saren" and numerous rebuttals of "Saren's flagship was of Geth design". Unfettered, Garrus began a thorough investigation of the clean-up process on the Citadel. He soon found, however, that direct access to zones littered with debris from Sovereign were uncharacteristically restrictive for someone of his rank, as was any information gathered from said zones. Needless to say, Garrus became suspicious and began grilling C-sec higher-ups with blunt, to-the-point questions pertaining to said restrictions and lack of any substantial information, and generally stuck his (nose?) in places it didn't belong (this could also be a potential explanation of Garrus' knowledge of the Thanix Cannon).

To sum it up, C-sec (and possibly the Council) decided that the meddling of one of the Citadel's saviors was more trouble than he was worth, and fired Garrus, thus triggering his exodus to Omega (Shepard's death would eventually play a part in it as well).

This scenario can ring true for a renegade Garrus as well. Simply put, the council disliked the fact that a potential spectre candidate could be easily manipulated by half-truth theories and speculation, thus, Garrus had his name removed from consideration.

I personally like these explanations, as they not only stay true to Garrus' ME personality, but also provide background information on Garrus' failure to follow through the goals he laid for himself post-ME.

Anyways, I was curious as to what everyone else thought about this.



That actually makes a lot of sense.

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

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Oh dear XDDD I USED to call it that - but then everyone kept on saying that "ITS OVER 9000!!!!!" meme XD And with all the Old Spice Garrus puns, and Old Spice actually having a "Monocle Smile" commercial.....plus the fact Gaarrus loves classy things, Ive been saying cyber monocle ever since. ^_^

*monocle smile snip*

I couldn't resist. xD

I just HAD to mention the old spice monocle smile didnt i XDDDDD
I love you.

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Arc, that just made me giggle a lot.

i tend to call it either a Scouter (mostly cause i heard other people calling it that) or an eyepiece (cause thats what it is) or a visor. Visor is what i use most though.

Visor is the #1 i use the most. I guess this order are the nicknames i use referring to his visor:
-Visor
-Cyber Monocle=Eye Piece [use these both equally XD]
-Scouter
-Monocle
-Ipod ....what?....hey, he does play music on it! XP
I had a few more but i dont remember them.
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@Skorpious: Nice theory there. That makes sense. I always got the impression though that Garrus quit judging from the 1st conversation Shepard had with him when Garrus 1st came aboard the normandy. But from his romance scene - it says otherwise, as if he was possibly fired. It could be both in a way. Your theory is right, but he ended quitting in the sense that there was "too much red tape." He confesses that one of the real reasons he left was because there wasnt much he could do to help, with all the rebuilding of the citadel and all. Whatever he did want to do was most likely ignored, & not taken into account because of all the possible regulations. Depending on the players me1 file - If garrus went to do spectre training, he says: "There was too much politicking at the Citadel. No one was willing to make risks." Plus the fact they kept dismissing the reapers and blaming geth - Garrus got fed up and left. 
Though i still like your reasoning alot.   

Modifié par ArcanaLegacy, 23 juin 2011 - 06:16 .


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I always figured he quit C-Sec/Spectre training once it became obvious that the Council was going to keep dragging its feet and denying things. And once he heard about Shepard's death.. that would have been the straw that broke the camel's back, time for him to move on and do something else with his life. Granted, I always felt like he left out significant details on why he ended up on Omega of all places. Why didn't he go back to Palaven? It's possible the Council could have tried to get him blacklisted/fired or whatever but we never really find out his true motivation to leave Citadel space altogether. Maybe.. there's more to it that we'll find out about in ME3.

I also support the term "Space Monocle".

Modifié par leonia42, 23 juin 2011 - 06:36 .


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leonia42 wrote...

I always figured he quit C-Sec/Spectre training once it became obvious that the Council was going to keep dragging its feet and denying things. And once he heard about Shepard's death.. that would have been the straw that broke the camel's back, time for him to move on and do something else with his life. Granted, I always felt like he left out significant details on why he ended up on Omega of all places. Why didn't he go back to Palaven? It's possible the Council could have tried to get him blacklisted/fired or whatever but we never really find out his true motivation to leave Citadel space altogether. Maybe.. there's more to it that we'll find out about in ME3.

I also support the term "Space Monocle".


I think it makes perfect sense that he would go to a place like Omega.  Garrus was always complaining about red tape and restrictions, regardless of which path Shepard may guide him down.  I recall he says something about Jaroths crew (the Eclipse mercenaries) supplying the Citadel with half the goods he seized back at C-Sec.  He went to fight crime at its source, in a place where he would only be held back by the strength of his enemy.

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Sure, but it still feels like there was more to it than that. Like he wasn't allowed to stay in Citadel space for some reason. Just a gut feeling I have, he could have fought crime any where away from the Citadel itself, could have gone to a turian colony where he didn't have to jump through as many hoops. And given that his "class" turned into "turian rebel" in ME2.. I'm wondering if he is purposely avoiding the Hierarchy, a government which operates with very few layers of bureacracy (unlike the way things are ran on the Citadel with the other races). At the very least he should have gone home at some point if he knew his mother was sick but maybe he couldn't because something bigger happened on the Citadel that meant he couldn't confront his father. I'm just guessing here but going to the source to fight crime doesn't seem to be enough of a motivation force for someone who has lived the "good life" on the Citadel for the last few years.

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-Skorpious- wrote...

I was playing ME2 the other day and something struck me - does anyone else like to believe that Garrus was 'fired' from C-sec shortly after the events of ME? I always found it odd that a paragon Garrus, who swore that he will use his experience traveling with Shepard to go back to C-sec and "make a difference", decided to run to Omega and play space-batman.

The way I see it, Garrus rejoined C-sec immediately after the battle of the Citadel. Naturally Garrus shared his experiences on Ilos and Virmire with his superiors, both revealing the truth about Sovereign's origins and warning them of the coming invasion, but quickly grew frustrated when his accounts were casually dismissed as "rumors spread by Saren" and numerous rebuttals of "Saren's flagship was of Geth design". Unfettered, Garrus began a thorough investigation of the clean-up process on the Citadel. He soon found, however, that direct access to zones littered with debris from Sovereign were uncharacteristically restrictive for someone of his rank, as was any information gathered from said zones. Needless to say, Garrus became suspicious and began grilling C-sec higher-ups with blunt, to-the-point questions pertaining to said restrictions and lack of any substantial information, and generally stuck his (nose?) in places it didn't belong (this could also be a potential explanation of Garrus' knowledge of the Thanix Cannon).

To sum it up, C-sec (and possibly the Council) decided that the meddling of one of the Citadel's saviors was more trouble than he was worth, and fired Garrus, thus triggering his exodus to Omega (Shepard's death would eventually play a part in it as well).

This scenario can ring true for a renegade Garrus as well. Simply put, the council disliked the fact that a potential spectre candidate could be easily manipulated by half-truth theories and speculation, thus, Garrus had his name removed from consideration.

I personally like these explanations, as they not only stay true to Garrus' ME personality, but also provide background information on Garrus' failure to follow through the goals he laid for himself post-ME.

Anyways, I was curious as to what everyone else thought about this.

It is plausible, all right, but you are greatly underestimating how stubborn Garrus is and how difficult an 180 degree turn in morality (Garrus always had noble goals, but he never had noble means) can be with your 'mentor' dead.

You actually get to paragonize him again in ME2, though I am cautious as to whether or not that will last. Garrus is still relatively young and his morality can easily change temporarily, but can he establish a permanent sense of morality?

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leonia42 wrote...

Sure, but it still feels like there was more to it than that. Like he wasn't allowed to stay in Citadel space for some reason. Just a gut feeling I have, he could have fought crime any where away from the Citadel itself, could have gone to a turian colony where he didn't have to jump through as many hoops. And given that his "class" turned into "turian rebel" in ME2.. I'm wondering if he is purposely avoiding the Hierarchy, a government which operates with very few layers of bureacracy (unlike the way things are ran on the Citadel with the other races). At the very least he should have gone home at some point if he knew his mother was sick but maybe he couldn't because something bigger happened on the Citadel that meant he couldn't confront his father. I'm just guessing here but going to the source to fight crime doesn't seem to be enough of a motivation force for someone who has lived the "good life" on the Citadel for the last few years.

It's a nice theory, but, I have to disagree to some points.

The Hierarchy has more morality restraints that you think, even if turians don't acknowledge honor and their social code as such. I don't think that Garrus' issue was with paperwork -he did make it as a detective after all- but with due process.

He thinks that if he is to take down a suspect to help others, he can use as much force as he wants. That's not acceptable in Citadel or Turian space.

It is interesting to see how often Garrus is blinded by revenge and can not think rationally. First Saleon, then the merc leaders, and finally Sidonis. Not to mention his LotSB records. He certainly supports an 'eye for an eye' morality, and whether he sees the flaws of that theory is up to Shepard's choices in ME2. And ME1 of course, though I don't think that it had much impact back then.

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leonia42 wrote...

Sure, but it still feels like there was more to it than that. Like he wasn't allowed to stay in Citadel space for some reason. Just a gut feeling I have, he could have fought crime any where away from the Citadel itself, could have gone to a turian colony where he didn't have to jump through as many hoops. And given that his "class" turned into "turian rebel" in ME2.. I'm wondering if he is purposely avoiding the Hierarchy, a government which operates with very few layers of bureacracy (unlike the way things are ran on the Citadel with the other races). At the very least he should have gone home at some point if he knew his mother was sick but maybe he couldn't because something bigger happened on the Citadel that meant he couldn't confront his father. I'm just guessing here but going to the source to fight crime doesn't seem to be enough of a motivation force for someone who has lived the "good life" on the Citadel for the last few years.


Maybe part of it had to do with his father?  I suspect there would still be plenty of hoops to jump through on a Turian world, at least compared to Omega.

Garrus never really seemed the type to me that put high value on the "good life."  At least not for himself, if he had financial obligations to his family that required a normal job I doubt he'd have just up and left to join Shepard in the first place.

Modifié par HogarthHughes 3, 23 juin 2011 - 07:34 .


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No, I suppose he would have gotten bored with the cushy lifestyle of a C-Sec cop eventually. I still want to know what his darn views are on the Hierarchy, we get to hear a lot more about the other species from Wrex and Tali and even Liara but Garrus really keeps his thoughts to himself on the subject.

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Phaedon wrote...

-Skorpious- wrote...

I was playing ME2 the other day and something struck me - does anyone else like to believe that Garrus was 'fired' from C-sec shortly after the events of ME? I always found it odd that a paragon Garrus, who swore that he will use his experience traveling with Shepard to go back to C-sec and "make a difference", decided to run to Omega and play space-batman.

The way I see it, Garrus rejoined C-sec immediately after the battle of the Citadel. Naturally Garrus shared his experiences on Ilos and Virmire with his superiors, both revealing the truth about Sovereign's origins and warning them of the coming invasion, but quickly grew frustrated when his accounts were casually dismissed as "rumors spread by Saren" and numerous rebuttals of "Saren's flagship was of Geth design". Unfettered, Garrus began a thorough investigation of the clean-up process on the Citadel. He soon found, however, that direct access to zones littered with debris from Sovereign were uncharacteristically restrictive for someone of his rank, as was any information gathered from said zones. Needless to say, Garrus became suspicious and began grilling C-sec higher-ups with blunt, to-the-point questions pertaining to said restrictions and lack of any substantial information, and generally stuck his (nose?) in places it didn't belong (this could also be a potential explanation of Garrus' knowledge of the Thanix Cannon).

To sum it up, C-sec (and possibly the Council) decided that the meddling of one of the Citadel's saviors was more trouble than he was worth, and fired Garrus, thus triggering his exodus to Omega (Shepard's death would eventually play a part in it as well).

This scenario can ring true for a renegade Garrus as well. Simply put, the council disliked the fact that a potential spectre candidate could be easily manipulated by half-truth theories and speculation, thus, Garrus had his name removed from consideration.

I personally like these explanations, as they not only stay true to Garrus' ME personality, but also provide background information on Garrus' failure to follow through the goals he laid for himself post-ME.

Anyways, I was curious as to what everyone else thought about this.

It is plausible, all right, but you are greatly underestimating how stubborn Garrus is and how difficult an 180 degree turn in morality (Garrus always had noble goals, but he never had noble means) can be with your 'mentor' dead.

You actually get to paragonize him again in ME2, though I am cautious as to whether or not that will last. Garrus is still relatively young and his morality can easily change temporarily, but can he establish a permanent sense of morality?

I share this view. In part because I like the romantic notion that it was Shepard's death that pushed Garrus over the edge, not some rational reasons. In part because I think that, if Garrus smelled rat in C-Sec, he wouldn't run off to Omega - he'd make a point of staying and dealing with it, even if it cost him his life.

Garrus thinks he knows what justice is. And the justice of Citadel space is slow, weak, ineffective, indirect. Corrupt? Perhaps even that. Marginalizing Shepard after Saren, assigning him/her menial tasks that sidestepped the real issues, and by extension Shepard's death as well - all consequences of a weak justice system. Garrus would want to get as far away from it as possible.

The way I see it, Garrus never thought he was exacting revenge on Saleon or Sidonis. He was bringing them to justice. He's a flawed character, no doubt about that. Shepard's morality can only influence him locally, temporarily. If left to his own devices, he'll always revert to the good old eye-for-an-eye.

Modifié par Lady Olivia, 23 juin 2011 - 08:19 .


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*jumps in*

Read title of thread and you can't tear calibrations from Garrus, never!

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Lady Olivia wrote...

I share this view. In part because I like the romantic notion that it was Shepard's death that pushed Garrus over the edge, not some rational reasons. In part because I think that, if Garrus smelled rat in C-Sec, he wouldn't run off to Omega - he'd make a point of staying and dealing with it, even if it cost him his life.

Garrus thinks he knows what justice is. And the justice of Citadel space is slow, weak, ineffective, indirect. Corrupt? Perhaps even that. Marginalizing Shepard after Saren, assigning him/her menial tasks that sidestepped the real issues, and by extension Shepard's death as well - all consequences of a weak justice system. Garrus would want to get as far away from it as possible.

The way I see it, Garrus never thought he was exacting revenge on Saleon or Sidonis. He was bringing them to justice. He's a flawed character, no doubt about that. Shepard's morality can only influence him locally, temporarily. If left to his own devices, he'll always revert to the good old eye-for-an-eye.


:wizard: I love this

I just played through Korlus on Hardcore and Garrus was KO for most of it. Whoops.:?

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So long as he doesn't go to the extreme of blowing up chantries to display his sense of justice, I'm ok with this. Even if he isn't entirely rational, at least he has Shepard to keep him on that "straight and narrow", heh sort of like a Shepherd Book to Mal Reynolds.. ah been watching way too much Firefly lately.

I agree with what everyone has said so far but I can't shake the feeling that there is still a missing puzzle piece some where. If he is so opposed to bureacracy and the Hierarchy, why does he keep the facial tattoos? If he was a true anarchist-type he'd be barefaced like most of the turians on Omega. There's still some sense of patriotism/loyalty to his origins there.

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Interesting theories. I like the idea that he was blacklisted from C-Sec for being too much of a nuisance. I just wish Pallin were still around, I wonder what he'd think when he sees what happened to that rash, young officer.

Heck, I'd like to see Garrus interacting with any of his former co-workers. I hate that they were mostly replaced with humans. Am I the only one who really didn't like Bailey? I didn't think he was anything special, and it just felt like, don't we have enough humans that our main C-Sec officer is a human too? I didn't play a space game to deal with 90% humans... /ot

I don't think he's purposely avoiding Palaven. Garrus is the kind of person who bucks authority and likes to make his own rules; there's no place for someone like him on a turian world. I also think Garrus isn't the type to get complacent, that may be why he was such a bad fit for C-Sec in the first place.

I think that after Saren, Garrus needed another great cause, another dragon to slay. After all was said and done, arresting thugs in the wards just didn't mean anything. Not like defeating Saren meant something.

I think fighting Saren and the geth was the easiest choice he's ever had to make. There was no red tape, no murky moral dilemma, it was just, 'they're bad and we're good and we're going to stop them'. It was simple and it was right, and so few things are.

That's not to say he's a glory hog or in it for the fame, I think he just wants so much to do good, it's just hard to tell what that even is sometimes. Like he said, it's easier to see the world in black and white, and nothing is more black and white than the Reapers vs. everything we know, love and hold dear.

(I had to rewrite this whole post from memory because of my Firefox crashing just as I was finishing that last sentence. Bleh!)

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 23 juin 2011 - 09:01 .


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We're so behind. :?

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Aaaand, forgot to finish my point in the rewrite. ::ahem::

I think he was drawn to Omega because it's a hive of corruption, a place where the law can't go. He said most of the drugs that made their way into the Citadel had come from there. I imagine he's traced a lot of things to Omega where he didn't have jurisdiction to fix the problem at its source. I think Omega was probably another 'dragon' to C-Sec officers, an untouchable monster. But after helping to take down Saren it probably didn't seem like such an impossible task anymore.

I think Garrus failed because Omega was more complicated than it looked and because there wasn't a counterpoint to its corruption. Hopefully by fighting against them he started something, signaled some kind of change by showing people they could fight back. But maybe not. Omega is Omega, after all.

@Lady Olivia: Yeah, I've noticed Garrus thread moving a bit slower than the others. Maybe because everyone keeps trying to keep conversation in the 1&2 thread and leave this one for spoilers?

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leonia42 wrote...

So long as he doesn't go to the extreme of blowing up chantries to display his sense of justice, I'm ok with this. Even if he isn't entirely rational, at least he has Shepard to keep him on that "straight and narrow", heh sort of like a Shepherd Book to Mal Reynolds.. ah been watching way too much Firefly lately.

I agree with what everyone has said so far but I can't shake the feeling that there is still a missing puzzle piece some where. If he is so opposed to bureacracy and the Hierarchy, why does he keep the facial tattoos? If he was a true anarchist-type he'd be barefaced like most of the turians on Omega. There's still some sense of patriotism/loyalty to his origins there.

Agreed on the bold parts.

I don't think a turian would volunteer to become barefaced just to prove a point, though. :)


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Am I the only one who really didn't like Bailey?

Not at all. He's one of the blandest cadboard characters in the series, IMO. Don't know what he's done to deserve a comic of his own, no less.


Aris Ravenstar wrote...

I think that after Saren, Garrus needed another great cause, another dragon to slay. After all was said and done, arresting thugs in the wards just didn't mean anything. Not like defeating Saren meant something.

I think fighting Saren and the geth was the easiest choice he's ever had to make. There was no red tape, no murky moral dilemma, it was just, 'they're bad and we're good and we're going to stop them'. It was simple and it was right, and so few things are.

That's not to say he's a glory hog or in it for the fame, I think he just wants so much to do good, it's just hard to tell what that even is sometimes. Like he said, it's easier to see the world in black and white, and nothing is more black and white than the Reapers vs. everything we know, love and hold dear.

Yeah. The bigger the cause, the less you need to use your brains  the less gray matter. :)

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Lady Olivia wrote...

Not at all. He's one of the blandest cadboard characters in the series, IMO. Don't know what he's done to deserve a comic of his own, no less.

He's getting his own comic??? Gah. I really don't care about you or your cliche drinking problem or how hard it is to be a human on the human-occupied Citadel, sir. Take your 'understandings' and the rest of your dirty cop ways and go back to the mafia movie you jumped out of.

Lady Olivia wrote...

Yeah. The bigger the cause, the less you need to use your brains  the less gray matter. :)

Fewer nights kept awake living with your choices, too. You probably don't have as many civilian casualties or chances to lose people in alleyways when you're fighting an army of geth or a space station filled to the brim with mercs.

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On the note of "being behind", this is like the sixth or seventh Garrus appreciation thread and the last one is still running in the non-spoilers section and about to hit the 1100 post mark. We're only deceptively behind ;)

There's about an equal amount of discussion that goes on in both Calibration threads but I'd wager we have a high degree of intellectual conversation compared to other threads. Sure, we have our pages full of pictures and general "squeeing" but I like to think the Garrus fans are a diverse, mature bunch that can appreciate things on multiple levels (and we do talk about turians in general, not just Garrus).

I guess in Miranda's case her fanbase isn't enitrely sure of her role in the game yet so there is more speculation whereas those of us here know Garrus is more or less a permanent squaddie already and have less to worry about.

Anyway, loving all the insights everyone has on Garrus as a character, always interesting to compare notes.

@Aris: I agree, not a big fan of humanity taking over C-Sec but I get the feeling it's an allusion to humans getting more and more special in general. The trend will probably continue in ME3 with the game opening up on Earth, sadly.

About the only cool thing about Bailey is that he is voiced by Colonel Tigh. And yes, he was in a short comic: Inquisition Not sure how canon that little comic is but yeah, there it is.

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Here's to more turians & nice pictures. :)

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