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*epic fail on quoting*

For the Garrus hate... It's mostly because of the leaked script I think. As someone already said earlier on, team dextro got apparently more attention in game then other ME2 squadies and fans of other romances got annoyed.
Sad, so very sad :-(

Modifié par sushismygen, 02 décembre 2011 - 09:27 .


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I know this was a rough draft but is the game at a stage where the official script has been done? I'm worried the anti-dextro comments might make the writers change it (which would suck because garrus barely talked in ME2).

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Hyrule_Gal wrote...

I know this was a rough draft but is the game at a stage where the official script has been done? I'm worried the anti-dextro comments might make the writers change it (which would suck because garrus barely talked in ME2).


Oh, I highly doubt you need to worry about that. The writers aren't going to throw out a bunch of good ideas just because they're not loved by everyone. For example, Liara is ostracized for being Bioware's "favourite" all the time, but it's never affected the quality or quantity of her content. I'm sure Garrus and Tali will be as fantastic as promised (and I'm saying this as someone who's seen parts of the Garrus romance script).

Edit: Well, I guess Liara's content quantity WAS a bit shabby in ME2 :? But her DLC was quite well done, and I honestly don't believe that her sitting out for the main storyline had anything to do with her hates.

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Hyrule_Gal wrote...

I know this was a rough draft but is the game at a stage where the official script has been done? I'm worried the anti-dextro comments might make the writers change it (which would suck because garrus barely talked in ME2).

It's likely to be the other way - instead of reducing Garrus and Tali's content, they will most likely increase the content of the other characters. Reducing Team Dextro content will ****** off Team Dextro fans, and will do nothing in the way of pleasing the other fans aside from halting their anger. Iin the end, no one's happy.

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Hyrule_Gal wrote...

I know this was a rough draft but is the game at a stage where the official script has been done? I'm worried the anti-dextro comments might make the writers change it (which would suck because garrus barely talked in ME2).

Don't worry, I think that Bioware realizes that the anti-Dextro people are just a small minority. They won't cut content for two of the most popular (and, IMO, the two best) characters just because some people decided to whine about them.

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Arcian wrote...

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

I know this was a rough draft but is the game at a stage where the official script has been done? I'm worried the anti-dextro comments might make the writers change it (which would suck because garrus barely talked in ME2).

It's likely to be the other way - instead of reducing Garrus and Tali's content, they will most likely increase the content of the other characters. Reducing Team Dextro content will ****** off Team Dextro fans, and will do nothing in the way of pleasing the other fans aside from halting their anger. Iin the end, no one's happy.


My thoughts exactly, and if that content was still out of date, only the dev team knows what's been added since. I remember seeing tweets from some of the VAs that they've still been recording stuff fairly recently, so ... who knows.  

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sushismygen wrote...


*epic fail on quoting*

For the Garrus hate... It's mostly because of the leaked script I think. As someone already said earlier on, team dextro got apparently more attention in game then other ME2 squadies and fans of other romances got annoyed.
Sad, so very sad :-(


WOW! Never read the spoilers, but THAT sounds Great to me! & I'm sure it's just an unfinished script.. 

Other than than, it's when stuff gets cut out that bums me out!

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Look what's available for pre-sale in the Bioware store - http://biowarestore....s-action-figure

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Awesomeeee. Thought those weren't happening.

...Garrus still looks a bit zombie-esque though. Will probably have to repaint his face.

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Demonique wrote...

Look what's available for pre-sale in the Bioware store - http://biowarestore....s-action-figure


OMG yay finally :) I also hope they repaint his head...he's a bit more grey than that. But I love that he has the Widow :D 

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i just saw that too! OMG SO HAPPY.... Garrus AND Legion...:)

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http://biowarestore....s-action-figure

This reminds me of a comic I saw on DevArt about Garrus finding out they sold small collectible action figures of him in the ME universe. ^^

I would like to own one of those Garrus figures, but I don't think I have the room and money for it, and I think it would kind of freak my boyfriend out if I bought it. So no Garrus action figure for me. :c

@Mims
You're right he does look a bit zombie-ish when you zoom in on his face.

Modifié par dirtsa90, 03 décembre 2011 - 10:03 .


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[quote]Shinobu wrote...
In the same conversation Kaidan grins at that point (skip to 2:35):
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Recognised Fredericks as Leonardo from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles straight away

[quote]Pyn wrote...

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nice screenie I got during Virmire... missed some other good shots.[/quote]

Tell me, you aren't shooting Wrex there



[quote]dirtsa90 wrote...

Garrus-poster in message above: They dig them on Garrus.

I agree with Outmane, Garrus has a tendency to just bottle up all his problems and worries and with all he's been through I'm amazed he hasn't broken down yet (at least not visible, it wouldn't surprise me if he's an emotionel wreck on the inside).

I could imagine he sees Shepard as a sort of "anchor in a storm" as the only friend he has in the Galaxy. If they are in a romantic relationship I agree with Liara and Shepard can "give him some peace" but even if Shepard broke up with him she's still his friend and cares for him. He would be hurt but at least Shepard still got his back. If she betrayed him instead..I'm thinking that would push him over the edge, and I don't even want to imagine what would happen.

Not that I would ever make my Shepard either break up with him or betray him, not even for science (I'm not even able to pick a different LI for mu FemShep for science Image IPB)

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See, this is why Garrus needs to have a good cry in Mass Effct 3. I was waiting for it in ME2 but he just become even more emotionally constipated.

That's why, I support giving Garrus an emotional enema in Mass Effect 3!

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Or healing lovin' courtesty of ManShep


[quote]k-baggs wrote...

I so hope Joker has stuff to say about our relationships.

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"What? Joker is talking about stuff in my butt??"

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"I'm flattered, but doesn't he know I'm with you Shepard?" (gag I keep typing Sheppard, maybe it's something do with the fact that my Colonel John Sheppard figure is smirking across the table at Grunt right now)

[quote]k-baggs wrote...

Ash is my Garrusmance VS too! I hope she says something that embarrasses Garrus.[/quote]

Personally I'm hoping Wrex says something to embarrass Garrus, I heard he snarks other romance options ingame and other squaddies have something to say about Garrus and Shep

Modifié par Demonique, 03 décembre 2011 - 01:06 .


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Ariadnee wrote...

Demonique wrote...

Look what's available for pre-sale in the Bioware store - http://biowarestore....s-action-figure


OMG yay finally :) I also hope they repaint his head...he's a bit more grey than that. But I love that he has the Widow :D 


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Demonique wrote...


Pyn wrote...

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nice screenie I got during Virmire... missed some other good shots.


Tell me, you aren't shooting Wrex there


Too late.
And that playthrough ended up a stalemate on the Citadel. :mellow: (not enough charm/intimidate there)

Doing another run with my main lv60 femShep Vanguard on Insanity, just to have a somewhat different run...

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For all the team dextro hate and the script being changed: NAH! Aint gonna happen. Dont wry guys. Realize that a good like.....90% of fans are in love with either Tali or Garrus in their top 5 characters of mass effect. Majority are in love with BOTH. I mean seriously, BW can't please everyone. They know it - but they do listen to feedback. Think of it-
-Fans meet Tali & Garrus in ME1, fell in love - they werent romancable.
-BW listened.
-In ME2 - Garrus and Tali were made into romance options due to such immense fan demands. Sadly, they werent the center of attention. Jacob and Miranda [and Mordin] were. Remember: "Call everyone for a staff meeting. We have a lot to discuss." *Only miri, jacob and mordin were there* Wtf? THAT annoyed quite a handful of ppl. Fans wanted more "Team dextro" to have more prominent roles.
-BW listened.
-Now "some" ppl get an OLD and UNFINISHED LEAKED script, discover team dextro has quite the big roles to play in the story and they are upset?

I call shaningans. BW KNOWS that Garrus and Tali are like the TOP favs. Do i need to pull out that Game Informer video where BW was interviewed on creating garrus? Image IPB They KNOW. They arent changing anything to THAT degree. On the contrary - like it was mentioned by a few of you here - they might make the other characters have more screen time.

I follow BW and various sites. And i keep up with updates everywhere.
Fret not my fellow clan mates - Everything will be fine. *gives comforting hugs to all*

Demonique wrote...
Look what's available for pre-sale in the Bioware store - http://biowarestore....s-action-figure

I TOTALLY ordered one!
I think i have an issue with Garrus related items. I dont think - just pure instinct to buy the dam item takes over XD

Garrus shirt - brought one on the 1st patch released.
Archangel litho - brought the 1st patch, which was autographed. Heck - i woke up early for that beautiful art :3
Garrus figure - preordered day 1.

.......Dam u garrus. I love you too much and my wallet suffers for it XD

My ONLY concern is one thing - I was actually considering to wait for a ME3 version to be made. But you know what? Screw it, If that gets made - ill buy that too! 2 Garrus' are better than one Image IPB

Demonique wrote...
See, this is why Garrus needs to have a good cry in Mass Effct 3. I was waiting for it in ME2 but he just become even more emotionally constipated.

That's why, I support giving Garrus an emotional enema in Mass Effect 3!

I can honestly say we all agree on this. Garrus has alot of pent up pain and stress. He REALLY needs to vent. Whether its to femshep or maleshep. Not that i can imagine him ever taking the opportunity though. I wouldnt say he's "emotionally constipated". Garrus has never been the type to just dump all his issues on anyone. He doesnt want to burden anyone. He sees shepard have enough worries, and he must feel that why should he add to it by making shepard worry or "waste time" being concerned for hiom when there are more important things that need his/her attention. Of course none of us feel this way - we love garrus, but that's what i believe was Garrus' POV. He wants to help shep, not burden her. On the contrary, he has her back and jokes with her to help bring a smile on her face. Its the least he can do.

We've gone over this ages ago that even when he asks shepard to help him on his LM, he asks like he thinks its an inconvenience to her. To only help out IF she has the time for it. She on an important mission; he feels that his "little" request means nothing but further burdens. Like taking time she needs for his own agenda. He keeps so much to himself, bottled up :/ OF COURSE we would love to help you out Garrus! Don't think that ur problems are ever anything not important to shepard!
"Thanks Shepard. I appreciate you taking the time to help me."
Even that line says alot. Garrus is one of those ppl you gotta read b/w the lines.
That whole conversation - I saw: I know youre too busy with the collectors and the reapers. Managing this crazy suicide mission.....But if you can find the time to help me with this, I'd appreciate it. If its too much trouble, then its ok. I know you have more pressing matters to tend too. There's still no other place I rather be than here.
.....I'll be here if you need me Shepard.

Something along those lines is what I though more or less.
Now like i said - Garrus isnt much for "venting". He's always kept things to himself, even away from his family.
I would actually love it for him to have a moment where he confides in shepard on a more emotional level. Whether friendship or romance. He needs it.

....and a hug. 

 

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Saving that! XD LOVE THAT SHOW!

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^^^Now THAT'S happiness Image IPBImage IPBImage IPBImage IPB
Probably a new fav for me.

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ArcanaLegacy wrote...
I can honestly say we all agree on this. Garrus has alot of pent up pain and stress. He REALLY needs to vent. Whether its to femshep or maleshep. Not that i can imagine him ever taking the opportunity though. I wouldnt say he's "emotionally constipated". Garrus has never been the type to just dump all his issues on anyone. He doesnt want to burden anyone. He sees shepard have enough worries, and he must feel that why should he add to it by making shepard worry or "waste time" being concerned for hiom when there are more important things that need his/her attention. Of course none of us feel this way - we love garrus, but that's what i believe was Garrus' POV. He wants to help shep, not burden her. On the contrary, he has her back and jokes with her to help bring a smile on her face. Its the least he can do.


Well said, and agreed every line of it. Garrus is a tough guy, but not that tough. There's room for some venting. He can even cry in my shoulders if he wants/needs to. I can at the same time cry as well.

We've gone over this ages...


Simply even reading that makes me miss the older days even more....

....and a hug.


It's better than sex when it comes to Garrus and hugs.

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Chewin3 wrote...

ArcanaLegacy wrote...
*snip*


Well said, and agreed every line of it. Garrus is a tough guy, but not that tough. There's room for some venting. He can even cry in my shoulders if he wants/needs to. I can at the same time cry as well.


We've gone over this ages...


Simply even reading that makes me miss the older days even more....


....and a hug.


It's better than sex when it comes to Garrus and hugs.

True. Id totally cry with him as well as a result X3 Or if he wont cry, I'll cry for him!
Seriously, he needs to let out some of his worries. No one should keep that kind of stuff bottled up. Its not healthy Image IPB He needs to know that its ok to vent. Shepard [male or female] wont think any less of him if he did. On the contrary, it'll just further strengthen the bond they share as bros, or a couple.
If u need to cry into my shoulder, or cover ur face so no one sees, it ok sweetheart Image IPB
or just a simple cuddle. Its all ok.
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And yes, when i typed that - i thought the same thing ChewinImage IPB I miss the old days. *hug*

@the last part: Now THAT is well said Image IPB My thoughts exactly!

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HA!

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That's the best bro comic I've seen of garrus! Very funny, wish femshep had something to throw in the path of a flirtatious asari...just not garrus though, he belongs to her ^_^ Hmmm, maybe there's a use for kelly after all Image IPB




Asari: Oh commander, thank you for doing my side quest. let me show my gratitude by inappropriately groping you without your permission

Shepard: ...KELLY!

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 Kelly: *catches breath* Yes... commander?

(hurls Kelly at Asari)

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 04 décembre 2011 - 04:53 .


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ArcanaLegacy wrote...




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^^^Now THAT'S happiness Image IPBImage IPBImage IPBImage IPB
Probably a new fav for me.


Mine too Image IPB Saw this one recently on deviantart and just melted. It's a  the kind of "sort-of-kiss" that they could pull off.

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 04 décembre 2011 - 01:33 .


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Need more Garrus hugs, oh yes indeed!

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So yeah, I'm pretty late to the party but could some lovely person PM me the script pleeease? Or just the garrus dialogue. My soul will be forever yours!!

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Don't do it Random! A lot of people who read the script came back as Reaper indoctrinated haters.

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But but... the temptation!! Bah, It's going to be a long three months. I need something to fill this Garrus shaped hole. In my heart might i add.Image IPB

Modifié par RandomGypsy, 04 décembre 2011 - 05:54 .


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Kill three months with Garrus/Mako comics. I have seen a ton ad all are hilarious.

Edit for TOP

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by ~Sirus-XIII

Modifié par Fleshdress, 04 décembre 2011 - 06:18 .