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No Shepard Without Vakarian: Garrus Love and Turian Discussion


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UrsulaCousland wrote...


IMO, at minimum, it could be viewed as starting out as a friends-with-benefits arrangement, but it very rapidly evolves beyond that the more consideration both parties give it. I think it definitely does that for Garrus, and the more it does, the more afraid he gets that that Shepard will either change her mind or back out. That's an incredible vulnerability and a big risk even in a same-species couple. Of course, I also personally believe that while Garrus does mention he doesn't have a fetish for humans (which, to me, just says he doesn't fixate on them, not that he finds all humans unattractive), as the Turian himself says, "This isn't about that. This is about us".  It's about who they are, not what.


What you wrote made me think (in a good way) of old americain movies about a black man falling for a white woman. I always felt like when Garrus talks avbout his non fetish for human females hes mostly trying to figure out for himself why he has to feeling for Shepard, where those feelings come from. Is it because she's special/unique (being commander Shepard and all) or because he loves who she is under that ?

I like that with the way the romance arc goes, its clear that he only romances her after getting to know Shep well enough on a personal level, not just as a hero figure (meaning you need to recruit him on ME1 not just show up guns blazing in ME2 to save his hide). Of course you need to complete his LM like any other LI to put his mind at ease but its not a direct recruit-LM-sex romance arc like most ME2 LIs.

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I've got a question I've always been curious about. When the sparring conversation comes up Femshep offers to help Garrus blow off steam and he says something like, "Didn't think you'd feel like sparring...", you can select "Not what I meant" or "I wouldn't mind". Has anyone ever selected the second? Does it avoid the romance? Just curious because I've never tried it before.

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It avoids the romance. Garrus ends up saying something like 'well maybe an other day'. His tone is not entirely sad but more like 'oh silly me who thought that convo was going somewhere' and he goes back to calibrating.

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Garrus: I, uh...didn't think you'd be up for sparring, Commander.
FemShep: You know me, I'm always up for hitting things. And if it'll make you feel better...
Garrus: Ha. I'd rather not add my name to the list of people you've knocked on their asses. Thanks for coming by. And don't worry about me. Whatever happens, I'll be there.

*boom* Friendzoned.

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Shinobu wrote...

Garrus: I, uh...didn't think you'd be up for sparring, Commander.
FemShep: You know me, I'm always up for hitting things. And if it'll make you feel better...
Garrus: Ha. I'd rather not add my name to the list of people you've knocked on their asses. Thanks for coming by. And don't worry about me. Whatever happens, I'll be there.

*boom* Friendzoned.


Thanks.  Won't be trying that then!

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 I've been working overtime since I found that Sidonis head in the Mass Effect files, and I threw together another little something for you Turian fans. It's more serious than what I usually do, but then Sidonis' story has always tugged at ye olde heart strings. 

Enjoy.


I liked it a lot! I hope the Sidonis/Garrus storyline has a great payoff in ME3. My first (canon) playthrough I let Garrus kill him, but have spared him since. Did you play the whole game as Sidonis? I'd love to see him saying the "Let's spill some merc blood" line during Garrus' recruitment.

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Shinobu wrote...

SavageLycan wrote...

 I've been working overtime since I found that Sidonis head in the Mass Effect files, and I threw together another little something for you Turian fans. It's more serious than what I usually do, but then Sidonis' story has always tugged at ye olde heart strings. 

Enjoy.


I liked it a lot! I hope the Sidonis/Garrus storyline has a great payoff in ME3. My first (canon) playthrough I let Garrus kill him, but have spared him since. Did you play the whole game as Sidonis? I'd love to see him saying the "Let's spill some merc blood" line during Garrus' recruitment.


Thanks! So far, I havn't played the whole game as Sidonis. I only just found his files the other day. I just got this footage during a playthrough of my main shep. 

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Ok I just LOL'd  I went back to Noveria on my current playthrough and never heard this quote before

Turian Guard:  When they let Qui'in back into his office, he squawked about the bloodstains on the carpet. Bastard

Oh Lorik Posted Image

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That's one of the things I really like about Garrus' romance. He won't get together with a Shepard who left him behind in ME1, while some other squadmates will just go for Shepard no matter what. They need to have a good relationship first. I believe he can be romanced in a ME2 game with no ME1 import though, as the default assumes Shepard recruited him.

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Ok I just LOL'd  I went back to Noveria on my current playthrough and never heard this quote before

Turian Guard:  When they let Qui'in back into his office, he squawked about the bloodstains on the carpet. Bastard

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"Squawked"? Posted Image Thank you for posting this. I've never heard that line before, and now I can just see a turian squawking...

Poor Lorik. Shep can't help getting some stains on the carpet when he's/she's slaughtering his enemies in there.

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Wow! That's amazing! Thanks for posting :lol:

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Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Ok I just LOL'd  I went back to Noveria on my current playthrough and never heard this quote before

Turian Guard:  When they let Qui'in back into his office, he squawked about the bloodstains on the carpet. Bastard

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Lol. I've heard that. Silly Lorik. :wub:



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Efleck makes such amazing art! :o I can't help drooling over every one of her turian drawings..

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This made me giggle, so I wanted to post it. I know I love my N7 hoodie. *hugs it*

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The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

That's one of the things I really like about Garrus' romance. He won't get together with a Shepard who left him behind in ME1, while some other squadmates will just go for Shepard no matter what. They need to have a good relationship first. I believe he can be romanced in a ME2 game with no ME1 import though, as the default assumes Shepard recruited him.


He can, at least with a Genesis file, which assumes he was recruited by default. That was how I romanced him the first time.

@Hyrule: Hahaha! I did find 'Doughnut Turian' but didn't get to hear that gem. 

My ME1 import character is complete. Once my hubby can be pried away from Skyrim I'll probably go ahead and set up the ME2 game. It went off perfectly - no ninjamances, got all the choices I wanted to go with, etc. :D

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That comic is adorable. xD I almost laughed out loud at Legion wearing the N7 hoodie. I can totally see my Sheps buying it too. They bought a lot of other cool but unnecessary things on the Citadel.

@Ursula: Congrats for avoiding the ninjamances! :) Are you going to recruit Garrus first?

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The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

That comic is adorable. xD I almost laughed out loud at Legion wearing the N7 hoodie. I can totally see my Sheps buying it too. They bought a lot of other cool but unnecessary things on the Citadel.

@Ursula: Congrats for avoiding the ninjamances! :) Are you going to recruit Garrus first?


Thanks, first of all!

I'm really, really torn about whether to recruit Garrus first or not. Part of me wants to snag Mordin so he can be present as part of the team patching Garrus up (or even keeping him alive until they can get him to the Normandy. ). That's been my rough head canon, but I haven't decided for sure yet. 

The one thing I can't see canon!Shep doing is taking him into the plague quarantine to get Mordin. The second she found out that humans don't get it and Turians can/do, there would probably be a contest of wills.

These things are why I'm going to try to write the fic as I play, or at least jot down scene notes as I go. I think way too much about these things sometimes. :happy:

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I put way too much thought into my Shepards too, sometimes even replaying scenes several times to choose exactly the right dialogue, so you're not alone there. xD

If it's more in-character for your Shep to recruit Mordin first, and you won't be taking Garrus into the quarantine zone anyway, then it might be best to go with that. My MainShep was going to recruit Mordin first like TIM suggested, but when Aria told her about Archangel, she just had to go recruit this awesome new teammate - and to her surprise, it was her old friend, Garrus! She wouldn't take him into the quarantine zone though. She knows he's the type who would go even if it meant certain death, and she has bad luck with the people she cares about dying off (Saren and family from her Colonist background, to name a few), so... yeah, that wasn't going to happen.

I have Shepards who would do it though, including one Colonist Sole Survivor who is just so paranoid at that point that Garrus wouldn't want to leave him alone.

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UrsulaCousland wrote...

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

That comic is adorable. xD I almost laughed out loud at Legion wearing the N7 hoodie. I can totally see my Sheps buying it too. They bought a lot of other cool but unnecessary things on the Citadel.

@Ursula: Congrats for avoiding the ninjamances! :) Are you going to recruit Garrus first?


Thanks, first of all!

I'm really, really torn about whether to recruit Garrus first or not. Part of me wants to snag Mordin so he can be present as part of the team patching Garrus up (or even keeping him alive until they can get him to the Normandy. ). That's been my rough head canon, but I haven't decided for sure yet. 

The one thing I can't see canon!Shep doing is taking him into the plague quarantine to get Mordin. The second she found out that humans don't get it and Turians can/do, there would probably be a contest of wills.

These things are why I'm going to try to write the fic as I play, or at least jot down scene notes as I go. I think way too much about these things sometimes. :happy:


Oh my goodness I'm doing the same thing as you! At the same time Posted Image I'm at Ilos so my canon shep will be ready for importing soon.  And like you and Kim I love to plan out my decisions and I too am already deciding who to get first.

-grunt to get that awesome bloodpack scene on garrus's mission
- Mordin so that he's the one to help garrus when he gets injured
-no one and bring kasumi and zaeed so that garrus can be on every mission

I roleplay to only bring characters that LOOK like muscle for garrus's mission (to trick the mercs) so Zaeed is always there. Miranda and jacob never come become because what mercs have you seen in skin tight cat suits!
I think Mordin first is the most appealing at the moment since this is a more paragon shep and won't be risking garrus's health in the quarantine zone anyway (even though the dialouge is funny).

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has it been confined that garrus can go gay or is he straight i would like to know for the love of god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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sabin77 wrote...

has it been confined that garrus can go gay or is he straight i would like to know for the love of god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


None of the ME2 bunch will be available for new romances so it's just the continuing straight romance.

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Hyrule_Gal wrote...

sabin77 wrote...

has it been confined that garrus can go gay or is he straight i would like to know for the love of god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


None of the ME2 bunch will be available for new romances so it's just the continuing straight romance.


are you fu cken kidding me so who gay and if it just  that kaiden and vege guy shoot me

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sabin77 wrote...

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

sabin77 wrote...

has it been confined that garrus can go gay or is he straight i would like to know for the love of god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


None of the ME2 bunch will be available for new romances so it's just the continuing straight romance.


are you fu cken kidding me so who gay and if it just  that kaiden and vege guy shoot me


Uh... Kaidan as an established romance won't be gay since he was only ever romance-able by FemShep. 

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Sialater wrote...

sabin77 wrote...

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

sabin77 wrote...

has it been confined that garrus can go gay or is he straight i would like to know for the love of god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


None of the ME2 bunch will be available for new romances so it's just the continuing straight romance.


are you fu cken kidding me so who gay and if it just  that kaiden and vege guy shoot me


Uh... Kaidan as an established romance won't be gay since he was only ever romance-able by FemShep. 


then who gay and if it just one guy and no aliens it a fu cken middle finger to gay games

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sabin77 wrote...

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

sabin77 wrote...

has it been confined that garrus can go gay or is he straight i would like to know for the love of god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


None of the ME2 bunch will be available for new romances so it's just the continuing straight romance.


are you fu cken kidding me so who gay and if it just  that kaiden and vege guy shoot me




Well

*spoilers*




there’s defiantly an exclusive m/m romance with a cool pilot name cortez who I've heard has great development (also a girl named sam who is strictly f/f) which is fantastic of bioware to do IMO

as for other m/m candidates there is a strong case for kaidan since you can have a new romance with him and I heard the dialogue is VERY gender neutral compared to the others (garrus for example you can tell it's femshep he's talking to) so the list will probably be;

Cortez: Gay
Kaidan: Bi
Vega: Bi

I'm not 100% sure about vega since I personally haven't read any romance confirmation about him from the leaked script.but he just screams new LI to me.

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Hyrule_Gal wrote...

sabin77 wrote...

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

sabin77 wrote...

has it been confined that garrus can go gay or is he straight i would like to know for the love of god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


None of the ME2 bunch will be available for new romances so it's just the continuing straight romance.


are you fu cken kidding me so who gay and if it just  that kaiden and vege guy shoot me




Well

*spoilers*




there’s defiantly an exclusive m/m romance with a cool pilot name cortez who I've heard has great development (also a girl named sam who is strictly f/f) which is fantastic of bioware to do IMO

as for other m/m candidates there is a strong case for kaidan since you can have a new romance with him and I heard the dialogue is VERY gender neutral compared to the others (garrus for example you can tell it's femshep he's talking to) so the list will probably be;

Cortez: Gay
Kaidan: Bi
Vega: Bi

I'm not 100% sure about vega since I personally haven't read any romance confirmation about him from the leaked script.but he just screams new LI to me.



i am sorry but all of them are human no **** aliens is still an insult