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[Unschuld]

Air36723 wrote...

I agree nissun, tali's thread has almost 500 pages now, but if bioware was to remove all the troll posts and people bashing tali to rile up her fan base, it would drop the page count i think. I like coming to the garrus thread who happens to be tied for my favorite squaddie with tali (team dextro!) because its not so combative between people here a majority of the time, i might not post but i do like to read what other people say and all the hate in the other threads is very tiring.

Truth.

[Chewin]

That's usually how it works with fictional characters, but we here in the Garrus thread are not blind and Garrus does has his 'flaws'. Some people may take those flaws of his more seriously than others, which is only natural, I don't blame them.

Garrus isn't my favourite character. In fact, I don't think I have one personal favourite, they all have their ups and downs. I didn't "join" this thread to say how cool Garrus is, I came here b/c he is an interesting character and he is that mostly b/c of his paragon and renegade direction. But in the end, it's the people here are what keeps me here

[TNT1991]

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Modifié par TNT1991, 12 janvier 2012 - 08:37 .

[Sialater]

makalathbonagin wrote...

To be frank, i don't really care about Kaiden thread (or Kaiden) I used to read a lot Garrus me2 thread back in the days and it was awesome, now it's just well ... nobody wants to post here :C and there is just me with my ****ty english trying to say what i can't say *flies away*

Yeah, well... this is why I post here seldomly.  I don't come to support and discuss one character to hear another, and/or his fans, bashed.  I don't want to post in a place where I have to defend one character while supporting another.  I get tired of putting up with it and reading it.  There's no reason for it and we didn't always used to do it.    Just because we're bored waiting for another game to come out is no reason.  And the reason this thread is low on responses is because half don't want spoilers and have fled the BSN for a while.

So, have a Garrus, while I go back to lurking, because I'm certainly not going to bother with anything further any more.  I don't want spoilers either.

[UrsulaCousland]

Chewin3 wrote...

That's usually how it works with fictional characters, but we here in the Garrus thread are not blind and Garrus does has his 'flaws'. Some people may take those flaws of his more seriously than others, which is only natural, I don't blame them.

Garrus isn't my favourite character. In fact, I don't think I have one personal favourite, they all have their ups and downs. I didn't "join" this thread to say how cool Garrus is, I came here b/c he is an interesting character and he is that mostly b/c of his paragon and renegade direction. But in the end, it's the people here are what keeps me here

Well said, Chewie. I 100% agree. I came here because Garrus is a fascinating character (flaws and all), but I stayed because of the fairly laid-back nature of the thread and the awesomeness of the 'regulars'.

(And I ordered my Garrus tee today too - thanks for the reminder, whoever posted that. And yes, I think it's great that I can finally own an LI shirt with the pic! (Hint to the Dragon Agemarketing people!!)

Modifié par UrsulaCousland, 13 janvier 2012 - 01:20 .

[The Sarendoctrinator]

I think that, for the most part, a character's flaws depend on each individual and their views of the character. A lot of people see Garrus' vengeful nature to be a flaw, and either hate that about him or enjoy helping him overcome it, but others like that about him - myself included. The same could be said about any character in existence. How you feel about the character is directly related to what you like, and although there are some characters that I really don't like (not talking about Kaidan here; everyone knows my problem is with flirting asari), they're all very well-written in my opinion, and I do enjoy being able to play so many different Shepards because of the variety.

It's sad to see people leaving for reasons besides trying to avoid spoilers (which there aren't many of in the Garrus thread, and the minor spoilers always give clear warning), because when I first joined BSN, the Garrus thread was one of those places where everyone was nice and welcoming to each other. I know I left 8 months ago because I was tired of people starting arguments when we're supposed to be here mostly for fun, talking about the characters we all love. This is hardly anything in comparison, but if you look at some other threads on the forums... yeah, it was kind of like that. So let's avoid any character/Shepard/people bashing now and in the future. Let's keep this a turian happy place.

And now, after this "keep the peace" rant, a Garrus screenshot from the ME Wiki for your viewing pleasure:



Let's find a positive topic for discussion. What was the very first thing you liked about Garrus' character when your Shepard met him in ME1 (or ME2, for some of you guys)? For me, it was the fact that he was a turian who was on our side. I already thought their species were the coolest alien design I've ever seen, and it was great to have a character around who completely believed Shepard when everyone else was trying to deny what he/she was warning them about. Garrus was going through the same thing himself with C-Sec, so he understood how frustrating that would have been for Shepard.

Modifié par The Sarendoctrinator, 13 janvier 2012 - 01:25 .

[Nissun]

I remember the first time I saw Nihlus better. You see, when I sat down to play the game for the first time, I knew nothing about the game. Nothing. Zero. It was my brother's and I hadn't heard anything about it before that day. And I remember asking my brother, when Nihlus appeared on screen:  "Uh... is that an alien, or a guy with a mask?"

I was fascinated from the very beginning. And Garrus? I think when he shot that guy helding the doctor hostage is when I first thought "Damn! Who the hell is that guy?" I mean, you meet him in the tower, but it's not until that moment when you really discover who he is, how badass he is. It's like the perfect introduction for his character.

Modifié par Nissun, 13 janvier 2012 - 01:52 .

[The Sarendoctrinator]

I didn't know much about Mass Effect when I started playing either. I had read enough about it to know that you could create your own Shepard and make a lot of choices, and this was enough for me to give it a try. The first turians I ever saw were... those on the game box. xD It's so different to see them in motion, the way their alien faces express emotion in a way that's easy for humans to understand, and to hear that cool voice effect. I thought Nihlus was awesome from the start, and when he made that surprised face after seeing Sovereign (the one with his mandibles flared out), I just thought turians were adorable.

Garrus taking that shot in the clinic was definitely amazing to watch. My Shepard came right out and told him that it was impressive. He was my favorite squadmate from the very start.

[UrsulaCousland]

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

I didn't know much about Mass Effect when I started playing either. I had read enough about it to know that you could create your own Shepard and make a lot of choices, and this was enough for me to give it a try. The first turians I ever saw were... those on the game box. xD It's so different to see them in motion, the way their alien faces express emotion in a way that's easy for humans to understand, and to hear that cool voice effect. I thought Nihlus was awesome from the start, and when he made that surprised face after seeing Sovereign (the one with his mandibles flared out), I just thought turians were adorable.

Garrus taking that shot in the clinic was definitely amazing to watch. My Shepard came right out and told him that it was impressive. He was my favorite squadmate from the very start.

It actually took me a very long time to actually *play* ME and ME2, but my husband played both at launch. His original running team was Garrus and Wrex for the most part, and I loved that cool, badass, feline/avian looking alien he ran around with. I don't remember Nihilus but I definitely remember Garrus, and I remember liking him quite a bit.

What's really funny is I remember Hubby mentioning that Garrus was romancible in ME2, possibly to get me to play it. (I think he must have remembered that I liked Garrus on general principle...). Quite a bit later, here I am, having played both, and with Garrus as my favorite LI of Mass Effect, period.

(Oh, and Sarendoctrinator - I know you mentioned a lot of Colonist/War Hero sheps - my canon!Shep is actually Spacer/War Hero but I never mentioned the Spacer part of it.  The Spacer aspect balances out any real hatred of Batarians, but she still treats them with considerable suspicion, again on a case-by-case basis).

[Bombe]

UrsulaCousland wrote...

Chewin3 wrote...

That's usually how it works with fictional characters, but we here in the Garrus thread are not blind and Garrus does has his 'flaws'. Some people may take those flaws of his more seriously than others, which is only natural, I don't blame them.

Garrus isn't my favourite character. In fact, I don't think I have one personal favourite, they all have their ups and downs. I didn't "join" this thread to say how cool Garrus is, I came here b/c he is an interesting character and he is that mostly b/c of his paragon and renegade direction. But in the end, it's the people here are what keeps me here

Well said, Chewie. I 100% agree. I came here because Garrus is a fascinating character (flaws and all), but I stayed because of the fairly laid-back nature of the thread and the awesomeness of the 'regulars'.

(And I ordered my Garrus tee today too - thanks for the reminder, whoever posted that. And yes, I think it's great that I can finally own an LI shirt with the pic! (Hint to the Dragon Agemarketing people!!)

You're welcome :innocent:

I'm the same, Chewin3, I don't strictly have a favourite. That being said, I definitely find his character far more intriguing than a lot of the others (*cough* Jacob). He's always been on my squad, I'm interested to see how the romance plays out, but he'll always be on my femshep's squad no matter what. I mean, he took a rocket to the face! A FREAKIN ROCKET TO THE FACE!!

Plus you guys are all friendly and stuff.

[The Sarendoctrinator]

UrsulaCousland wrote...

It actually took me a very long time to actually *play* ME and ME2, but my husband played both at launch. His original running team was Garrus and Wrex for the most part, and I loved that cool, badass, feline/avian looking alien he ran around with. I don't remember Nihilus but I definitely remember Garrus, and I remember liking him quite a bit.

What's really funny is I remember Hubby mentioning that Garrus was romancible in ME2, possibly to get me to play it. (I think he must have remembered that I liked Garrus on general principle...). Quite a bit later, here I am, having played both, and with Garrus as my favorite LI of Mass Effect, period.

Garrus and Wrex was my main team in ME1 too. It took a few playthroughs for me to start switching it up. They were just so awesome, in conversations and combat.

(Oh, and Sarendoctrinator - I know you mentioned a lot of Colonist/War Hero sheps - my canon!Shep is actually Spacer/War Hero but I never mentioned the Spacer part of it.  The Spacer aspect balances out any real hatred of Batarians, but she still treats them with considerable suspicion, again on a case-by-case basis).

Well, it's still interesting. xD About a year ago, it seemed a majority of the FemSheps who romanced Garrus were Earthborn, and now Colonists and War Heroes are becoming more common.

[outmane]

Nissun wrote...

I remember the first time I saw Nihlus better. You see, when I sat down to play the game for the first time, I knew nothing about the game. Nothing. Zero. It was my brother's and I hadn't heard anything about it before that day. And I remember asking my brother, when Nihlus appeared on screen:  "Uh... is that an alien, or a guy with a mask?"

I was fascinated from the very beginning. And Garrus? I think when he shot that guy helding the doctor hostage is when I first thought "Damn! Who the hell is that guy?" I mean, you meet him in the tower, but it's not until that moment when you really discover who he is, how badass he is. It's like the perfect introduction for his character.

Haha I had the exact same reaction!
It took me a few minutes to get used to the Turian design with Nihlus (maybe thats why I liked him more in my subsequent runs). Then when I met Garrus i was acclimated and I could resume to finding him interesting.



Its hard for me to think what was the first thing I liked of Garrus. ME1 had many many awsome Turians and none romancable so I really took time to figure what they were like as a species. The turians on the Citadel being one extreme (the C-Sec turian thanking if you tell him hes bad at his job when he tries to remove the Hanar and the C-Sec who sends you to trade weapons and gives you renegade points for anything else then fallowing blindly orders). Then charismatic Lorik Qin and Nhilus somewhere in the pragmatic middle. And at the other extreme renegade Saren.

I did not think of Garrus as a potential LI before a few playthroughs. His tenacity and loyalty were always there but the ME1 story didnt offer a turning point to the relationship to turn it from frienship to romance so I didnt think of it too much. then comes his recruitment mission in early ME2 and is a perfect turning point for a 'noooo dont die I never told you how I felt' moment for him and Shep. After that I couldnt wait for his SM to start the romance.

I guess my affection for the character fallowed the same arc as his romance. He was awsome and reliable in ME1 but only in ME2 did I think I couldnt play the game if he had died on Omega.

[Obsydian]

someone say Nihlus?

He's what drew me into the game... i restarted it like 17 times cause i just hated that first mission. i actually nearly refused to play the game because i was so not into the first mission....

but Nihlus. it was all about Nihlus. and I just kept coming back.



and now he's locked in my room.


for realz though. and just to comment on the "this thread/character is better than that thread/character" bah i say. bah. only reason i'm not around right now is cause my life went to sh*t when my boyfriend of 8 years and i broke up.
now i'm gonna be using this thread as a place to calm down when i'm sad.... cause i adore this character. and you guys. I think that this all just comes down to that thing that happens on this series of tubes that we frequent.

ie. non of us can actually hear each others voice inflections... i think Chewin or Arcian had the wonderful idea of all of us becoming elcor when we're on the forums. cause it would stop so much confusion and problems.

also. Garrus is so damned awkward its adorable.

um. this rambling random post is brought to you by muffins.
in k8ees pants.

bloody ones at that.

Modifié par Obsydian, 13 janvier 2012 - 04:02 .

[The Sarendoctrinator]

@outmane: I wanted Garrus to be a romance option since ME1, along with Tali. They were the two who really fit best with the Shepards I was playing at the time, and Garrus interested me more than any other squadmate. I remember saying the only thing that could make this awesome game even better was if they had Garrus as a romance option, so I was really glad to hear the news about ME2.

@Obsy: Here's a Nihlus screenshot, just for you. (Yay, ME Wiki. I use their screenshots.)

Modifié par The Sarendoctrinator, 13 janvier 2012 - 04:06 .

[Obsydian]

*hugs for Kim*
*pounces for Nihlus*

[outmane]

@Sarendoctrinatior the one advantage I see for Garrus and Tali to not be LIs in ME1 is that you can safely assume they are there because they believe Shep will be successful, not to get in his/her pants. I remember it took me many playthroughs to warm up  to Liara because of that.

I tried thinking if my canonShep would have romanced Garrus in ME1 if it was possible. I think she would but it would probably have turned into a flirt (mentor-student style) or like she had with Kaidan (to cope with the stress of her first time saving the galaxy) and it wouldnt have evloved like it did if yo wait in ME2 for a Garrus more on par with Shep.

Do you think your Shep relation would have been the same if she hooked with Garrus in ME1?

[The Sarendoctrinator]

@Obsy: It's great that there are so many screenshots online for me to post here. I don't have any of my own because I play the Xbox version, but at least they're easy to find. Look, it's a biotic Saren!



@outmane: If Garrus was an option in the first game, my FemShep who romanced him definitely would have gone for it then too. I don't think her feelings would have been different because for her, it wasn't a mentor/student relationship, it was more like helping her friend find his place in the world. From Garrus' perspective, knowing what we know now, it's really nice that his romance can only happen with a Shepard he's friends with. He won't romance a Shepard who left him behind in ME1, for example. It adds something to their relationship that a lot of the other romances don't have, if they can be done with a Shepard who's never said one nice comment to those characters. I still missed it in ME1, but I'm happy about the way it is now.

[Garnet]

New vid about the ME3 writing! No spoilers, of course.
More importantly Garrus pops out of the corner at one point! 




Aaaand...the Garrbutt shot!


I think I've done enough damage for one night.

[Bombe]

I start my game design course in 2 weeks. Have been sketching heaps in prep. Thinking a Garrus pic may need to be next on the cards.

[The Sarendoctrinator]

Awesome screenshots. Great video too.

My favorite part: "You really get to express what your Shepard is feeling and going through throughout the war."

[UrsulaCousland]

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

Awesome screenshots. Great video too.

My favorite part: "You really get to express what your Shepard is feeling and going through throughout the war."

I saw that!  It's stuff like that that can really wrap you up in a story, too. I think it humanizes your experience quite a bit. Random example: I just found a mission I've never done, and I can imagine it would leave Shepard's nerves a bit jangled. So, she shows up with the ice brandy and toasts getting happily drunk with the good Doctor.

(Whether this leads to an 'I love you, man' moment with Garrus in the fic remains to be seen, but the idea amuses me to no end. )

[The Sarendoctrinator]

I'm going to love the moments like that in ME3. From what I've read of the spoilers (don't worry, I won't post them here), there are many times when I really get to show my Shepards' relationship with their team, and what they would do when pushed to the edge. I've always planned out that kind of stuff, but I've never seen so much of it play out in the game. So excited for ME3.

That's a really good idea, making Shepard have a drink with Chakwas when they would need it. I've done something similar with my Shepards at the bar - Sole Survivors overdoing it on the Citadel because they've just been brought back to life and have no choice but to work with Cerberus, or a Colonist who normally wouldn't take a drink from a batarian accepting it anyway because Garrus almost died and he's not thinking clearly. Actually, this is the same Shepard. No wonder Garrus wants to follow him everywhere, even into quarantine.

[Bombe]

UrsulaCousland wrote...

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

Awesome screenshots. Great video too.

My favorite part: "You really get to express what your Shepard is feeling and going through throughout the war."

I saw that!  It's stuff like that that can really wrap you up in a story, too. I think it humanizes your experience quite a bit. Random example: I just found a mission I've never done, and I can imagine it would leave Shepard's nerves a bit jangled. So, she shows up with the ice brandy and toasts getting happily drunk with the good Doctor.

(Whether this leads to an 'I love you, man' moment with Garrus in the fic remains to be seen, but the idea amuses me to no end. )

This makes me even more excited, too. There really seems to be an obvious split among ME fans. Those who find the interactions and small relationship things irritating and intrusive to their game play, and those who find it vital. I guess I fall into the latter. While I love shooters and blowing things sky high, the reason I keep being drawn back to ME is the characters and their relationships. I love how I agonized over letting Garrus follow through with his plans or not on his LM, etc. The fact that you really get emotionally invested in it is what sets it above other games, for me at least.