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Sorael.A wrote...

SIGNAL THE FANFICTION LIGHT

At least they can't mess with our fan fictions...

ANYWAYS. This is freaking adorable.

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"can it wait for a bit? I'm in the middle of some booty shaking"

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

SgtPepper667 wrote...

At some parts? Haha, I was squealing the whole time! ;) Great...now when I play ME3, I'm going to want to hurry up and get to the romance scene...haha.

But you'll miss all the 'splodey and the plot twists and the pew-pew if you rush it!

At least they can't take away our fan fictions! Boy, am I happy for that, LOL.

And, oddly enough, I've never actually written one.  I keep saying I will, but I never do.

Probably because the forums are more fun.

You need to write one where Mr. Avenger, Garrus, Legion, Mordin and Wrex goes on an adventure of shenanigans, explosions and copious amounts of one-liners and awesome music.

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Fleshdress wrote...

Working on playing through my Vanguard Femshep on Hardcore. I think I may be traumatized after seeing Garrus go down every battle scene. He just really attracts those husks and always gets up to fire the moment the scions decide to do their really annoying... energy instadeath thingy.


My only Insanity run Garrus kept running out into a crossfire during Thane's recuitment while Miranda danced on top of crates until she got gunned down. >_<; D'oh! I think they both died four or five times.

I'm not good enough to take Garrus on every mission at higher difficulty, so I wound up with Mordin/Miri for Horizon/collector ship and Thane/Grunt for the overrun mine. Samara/Thane is pretty good for the IFF mission --  throw is a quick way to remove husks and Reave/Warp works well on scions.

If you're committed to taking Garrus on every mission, Garrus/Grunt might work (Go, Team Frenemy!). You and Grunt could get out in front to attract the husks while Garrus uses concussive shots from a high place. If Grunt has Squad Incendiary that would add some punch.

Can we have Scorpion Saturdays? I just don't feel the same unless I'm in drab camo.

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@Arcian: Oh certainly. After ME3, though--I need a good grasp on how all their characters evolve.

@Shinobu: Of course we can have Scorpion Saturdays! And Survivor Sundays, just because I want my squad to look like this:

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Ah, Survivor. NGL, I've put Shep and two squaddies in Survivor and told the PC monitor, "Go Team Bumblebee, go!" Above picture corroborates this.

edit: and "Team Mac 'n' Cheese" when everyone had Liberator

another edit: to what other outfits I'd like to see Garrus in, I'll go with something unserious and say the weird turian bolero-and-bonnet outfit. 

Modifié par k-baggs, 03 février 2012 - 12:57 .


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SgtPepper667 wrote...

Sorael.A wrote...

SIGNAL THE FANFICTION LIGHT

At least they can't mess with our fan fictions...

ANYWAYS. This is freaking adorable.

*snip*
by: http://vampyyri.deviantart.com/

 

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Favoriated on my DA.... immedately. 

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I can't make my squadmates match in my current ME1 playthrough because I haven't found a single quarian armour yet. Tali's still running around in "Hydra I". I wanted to put her and Wrex in matching Phoenix armour, but noooo...

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I know! I started save scumming before opening merchants' inventories, hoping to find some nice quarian armor. In my last playthrough I got lucky and had Garrus and Tali going around in top Colossus armor.

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Well, if you guys are playing ME1 on PC, there is another way...

As far as unserious outfits go, I demand Garrus be given a kilt and tasseled socks. Possibly bagpipes.

He would then be Garrus MacKarian.

No, the whole cast! The whole cast as Scotsmen!

MacEffect.

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outmane wrote...

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I have a few corrections to make with my Garrusmance FemShep too, but most of them are in ME1. She was a very rushed playthrough, as I found out that Garrus would be romanceable in ME2 right after I created her and it wasn't long until release date, and I ended up making some mistakes that I didn't have time to correct. Now, here we are 5 weeks before the Garrus romance in ME3, and I definitely won't be able to finish both ME1 and ME2 in that amount of time, so... it'll just have to wait until I can do a straight ME1-3 playthrough. There were no mistakes made with her Garrus interactions, and that's the most important thing.


I made sure to correct my past interactions as well. First time I played I lectured the poor guy with an onslaught of paragon options Posted Image In my recent playthrough (my redo if you will) my interactions with gar were A LOT better. Complimenting his headshot, telling him he can go about his business etc. 


With Garrus its often you want to say something nice, pick the top right answer and them just moralize him :blink:
(in ME1 mostly)

I always tell him he can go about his business as he sees fit. Actually my Shep trusts him pretty much. Even with all he says about taking risks, he never does something to ****** my paragade Shepard while working with her (might be because of the restrictions of the squadmate system of course) So for all his renegade talk, he never jeopardized any mission like Wrex and one of your human squaddy do on Virmire, or Liara wanting to stay on Illos and chat with Vigil while the Citadel is attacked.


Back during Mass Effect 1 I always made sure garrus was following orders and doing things properly. Loose cannons have their place and can often save the day, but all it takes is one small screwup, a wrong step and somebody dies.

I didn't want to change garrus per se, but I wanted to show him why the rules are there in the first place. Most rules are not made just to annoy people. I also reign him in because shep is the CO, she needed to show that she was in charge and loose cannons have to answer to her.

Now when ME2 came around, and it was clear that Garru's had matured (if not emotionally healthy)  my shep had far more trust in him, which meant more respect, and from respect (and being one of the few people she could rely on) affection. Fire forged love.

Can love bloom on a battlefield?

Come ME3, I am interested in seeing what direction their relationship will take. Especially with my femshep downard spiral into depression, and vengeance.

Modifié par Nashiktal, 03 février 2012 - 01:25 .


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@AdmiralCheez I tried Garrus and Wrex in Survivor once and felt like I was damaging my retinas. I swapped to Predator, but it was pretty dreary.

Does Garrus' ME3 armor actually have a small crotch handle on it? The one image I've seen of him sitting makes it look like he has a metal wilty soldered on. Ugh.

I think I'll still want to dress him in blue in ME3. I kind of miss the black, esp since I made Shep's armor blue and black by coincidence (started with ME2) and they looked nice together. Chrome? I don't know what to do with chrome....

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I've said before that I wouldn't mind seeing Garrus dressed in only a fundoshi*, but that's my own...weird...thing.

*nobody google image search that in front of their parents

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k-baggs wrote...

I've said before that I wouldn't mind seeing Garrus dressed in only a fundoshi*, but that's my own...weird...thing.

*nobody google image search that in front of their parents


I don't think that's a good look for anyone, even him... How about a yukata?

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*looks it up*

Much more modest, but it looks pretty!

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

"Follow," outmane.

And with that, carry on, Garrus thread.

EDIT: Oh sure the one time I post in this thread...  HERE, TAKE THIS.

*pic*


Badass Saren is badass.
It's like he's posing for a magazine cover.

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Nashiktal wrote...

Back during Mass Effect 1 I always made sure garrus was following orders and doing things properly. Loose cannons have their place and can often save the day, but all it takes is one small screwup, a wrong step and somebody dies.

I didn't want to change garrus per se, but I wanted to show him why the rules are there in the first place. Most rules are not made just to annoy people. I also reign him in because shep is the CO, she needed to show that she was in charge and loose cannons have to answer to her.

Now when ME2 came around, and it was clear that Garru's had matured (if not emotionally healthy)  my shep had far more trust in him, which meant more respect, and from respect (and being one of the few people she could rely on) affection. Fire forged love.

Can love bloom on a battlefield?

Come ME3, I am interested in seeing what direction their relationship will take. Especially with my femshep downard spiral into depression, and vengeance.


In ME1 my Shep was all preachy to him. I wish in ME2 she had the option of apologizing. Thought about writing a fanfic where she could say: "Sorry I was such a self-righteous prig, Garrus" to which he would reply "You were just being a good Turian." I like the more equal footing they have in ME2 and hope it continues in ME2. My Shep is getting more disillusioned and uncertain as time goes on, so I'm with ya!

Edit: Oops, meant ME3.

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I wonder since they made a Shepard VI, if they will make a Saren VI for Mass Effect 3? :D Imagine the POSSIBILITIES!

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Shinobu wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

Back during Mass Effect 1 I always made sure garrus was following orders and doing things properly. Loose cannons have their place and can often save the day, but all it takes is one small screwup, a wrong step and somebody dies.

I didn't want to change garrus per se, but I wanted to show him why the rules are there in the first place. Most rules are not made just to annoy people. I also reign him in because shep is the CO, she needed to show that she was in charge and loose cannons have to answer to her.

Now when ME2 came around, and it was clear that Garru's had matured (if not emotionally healthy)  my shep had far more trust in him, which meant more respect, and from respect (and being one of the few people she could rely on) affection. Fire forged love.

Can love bloom on a battlefield?

Come ME3, I am interested in seeing what direction their relationship will take. Especially with my femshep downard spiral into depression, and vengeance.


In ME1 my Shep was all preachy to him. I wish in ME2 she had the option of apologizing. Thought about writing a fanfic where she could say: "Sorry I was such a self-righteous prig, Garrus" to which he would reply "You were just being a good Turian." I like the more equal footing they have in ME2 and hope it continues in ME2. My Shep is getting more disilusioned and uncertain as time goes on, so I'm with ya!


Trusting Garrus when he chooses how to deal with Sidonis is my way to have my Shep show Garrus she is more then just da commander. After all she wasnt there and she knows next to nothing to what happend on Omega so instead of going all preachy she just  stood by him. 

Also, you gusy might be on to something with how Shep evolves over the course of the game. My paragons and paragades tend to be getting pretty tired of offering the other cheek by the end of ME2. On the otehr hand, I have some renegades and renegons who realized that yelling on people and killing everything wasnt going to get them much trust from anyone.

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Trusting Garrus when he chooses how to deal with Sidonis is my way to have my Shep show Garrus she is more then just da commander. After all she wasnt there and she knows next to nothing to what happend on Omega so instead of going all preachy she just  stood by him. 

Also, you gusy might be on to something with how Shep evolves over the course of the game. My paragons and paragades tend to be getting pretty tired of offering the other cheek by the end of ME2. On the otehr hand, I have some renegades and renegons who realized that yelling on people and killing everything wasnt going to get them much trust from anyone.


I hope in ME3 there are more opportunities for Shepard to trust him to make his own decisions. I think Grunt of all people got more self-determination than Garrus in ME2. ("It's your call, Grunt" was said, what -- 3 times?) At the same time I'm worried the Shadow Broker dossier on Garrus is a Bioware sucker-punch:

Garrus: C'mon, Shepard, let me go down to Palaven by myself.
Shepard: Well, the Shadow broker dossier did say I was hampering your development, so... okay.
Garrus: *dies on Palaven*
Shepard: Curse you, Bioware! :crying:

(I have not read any spoilers. This is just me being paranoid.)

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outmane wrote...

Trusting Garrus when he chooses how to deal with Sidonis is my way to have my Shep show Garrus she is more then just da commander. After all she wasnt there and she knows next to nothing to what happend on Omega so instead of going all preachy she just  stood by him.

See, I have some playthroughs where Sid dies, and some where he doesn't.  In the ones where he does, it's either for the reasons you listed above, or because my Shep thought the bastard deserved it.

But in the ones where Sidonis lives, the reasons are a little more complicated.  Joanna, my infiltrator, never got over what she did on Torfan.  She made a bad call, her men died because of it, and she took it out on the batarians.  She can't forget that primal, sickening rage she felt, the way she made sure every single batarian in that compound died for what they'd done, the knowledge that if she'd been smarter, her unit wouldn't have been so brutally slaughtered...

She didn't want Garrus to feel what she felt.  She couldn't let a friend go through what she went through.  She didn't want somebody else to look in the mirror every day and see a merciless butcher.

Rowena (my soldier), on the other hand, is a moron.  She has a big heart, and her head can't keep up.  She didn't think Sidonis deserved to die, and she didn't like the bitter, violent person Garrus had become.  And she may have been subconsciously inspired by Thane's ramblings about his dead wife.

Like most things Rowena does, standing in front of the scope seemed like a good idea at the time.

And of course I hooked Garrus up with the impulsive paragon ******.  That's how I roll, people.

Also, you gusy might be on to something with how Shep evolves over the course of the game. My paragons and paragades tend to be getting pretty tired of offering the other cheek by the end of ME2. On the otehr hand, I have some renegades and renegons who realized that yelling on people and killing everything wasnt going to get them much trust from anyone.

Indeed.  Roleplaying is fun, you guys.

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Shinobu wrote...

outmane wrote...

Trusting Garrus when he chooses how to deal with Sidonis is my way to have my Shep show Garrus she is more then just da commander. After all she wasnt there and she knows next to nothing to what happend on Omega so instead of going all preachy she just  stood by him. 

Also, you gusy might be on to something with how Shep evolves over the course of the game. My paragons and paragades tend to be getting pretty tired of offering the other cheek by the end of ME2. On the otehr hand, I have some renegades and renegons who realized that yelling on people and killing everything wasnt going to get them much trust from anyone.


I hope in ME3 there are more opportunities for Shepard to trust him to make his own decisions. I think Grunt of all people got more self-determination than Garrus in ME2. ("It's your call, Grunt" was said, what -- 3 times?) At the same time I'm worried the Shadow Broker dossier on Garrus is a Bioware sucker-punch:

Garrus: C'mon, Shepard, let me go down to Palaven by myself.
Shepard: Well, the Shadow broker dossier did say I was hampering your development, so... okay.
Garrus: *dies on Palaven*
Shepard: Curse you, Bioware! :crying:

(I have not read any spoilers. This is just me being paranoid.)

 


In  Tom Skerrit voice:  Never, Never, Leave your wingman. 


Hopeful some  here are old enough to get the reference and  I just did not show my age. 

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AdmiralCheez wrote...


Rowena (my soldier), on the other hand, is a moron.  She has a big heart, and her head can't keep up.  She didn't think Sidonis deserved to die, and she didn't like the bitter, violent person Garrus had become.  And she may have been subconsciously inspired by Thane's ramblings about his dead wife.

Like most things Rowena does, standing in front of the scope seemed like a good idea at the time.




So if I get it right, she figured throwing herself in front of that scope would make Garrus fall for her ?

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My Shepard has gotten slightly more renegade as I go on, which has impacted how I've done some choices in my new canon run. She was totally fine with dealing with Dr. Heart, given he was surrounded by his current victims. [Although ICly, I didn't care much for renegade Shep's dialogue in that scene- she seems more bored than avenging.]

But as for Sidonis, I can never kill him with my Femshep. She's calculating and slightly eccentric. The biggest problem for her is not whether or not Sidonis deserved it- but the fact that Garrus wanted to kill him in the middle of a moderately crowded ward. Granted I'm sure security isn't top notch in that area, but her thoughts would be:

- How are we getting out of here after he's dead
- What if the shot misses
- I'm standing here in my neon pink armor with a weapon permit, and suddenly this guy is dead, someone is going to recognize me.
- What if it hits someone other than Sidonis
- X squadmate is with us. The only person she'd trust well enough to pull in on this would be Tali, and she'd never subject Tali to that sort of job.

And then maybe at the bottom of her concerns would be, "Garrus be actin kinda crazy."

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nitefyre410 wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

outmane wrote...

Trusting Garrus when he chooses how to deal with Sidonis is my way to have my Shep show Garrus she is more then just da commander. After all she wasnt there and she knows next to nothing to what happend on Omega so instead of going all preachy she just  stood by him. 

Also, you gusy might be on to something with how Shep evolves over the course of the game. My paragons and paragades tend to be getting pretty tired of offering the other cheek by the end of ME2. On the otehr hand, I have some renegades and renegons who realized that yelling on people and killing everything wasnt going to get them much trust from anyone.


I hope in ME3 there are more opportunities for Shepard to trust him to make his own decisions. I think Grunt of all people got more self-determination than Garrus in ME2. ("It's your call, Grunt" was said, what -- 3 times?) At the same time I'm worried the Shadow Broker dossier on Garrus is a Bioware sucker-punch:

Garrus: C'mon, Shepard, let me go down to Palaven by myself.
Shepard: Well, the Shadow broker dossier did say I was hampering your development, so... okay.
Garrus: *dies on Palaven*
Shepard: Curse you, Bioware! :crying:

(I have not read any spoilers. This is just me being paranoid.)

 


In  Tom Skerrit voice:  Never, Never, Leave your wingman. 


Hopeful some  here are old enough to get the reference and  I just did not show my age. 



If you showed your age there, then so did I. :whistle:

Anyway - my full import (ME1->ME2) Shepard is definitely sliding Paragade. She still feels very strongly about trying to do the right thing, but she's also starting to realize that given what she's up against, she won't always be able to do that (and whatever that 'right thing' is, it may not be the ideal solution even if it seems 'right'.)

Edit: TotP *facepalm* ok...hmm...well, since I'm on an ErsbethShadowsong kick...

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