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[GodWood]

Ash is the last squadmate I'd expect to be up for some 'hawt chafing xenophilia'. If Garrus was to go for a non-Shepard human I'd assume it'd be Dr Michel.

She seemed pretty keen in that email.

Modifié par GodWood, 04 février 2012 - 02:05 .

[AdmiralCheez]

@Mims: Sometimes I think people have trouble grasping the concept of alternate timelines.

It's like how Ash shoots Wrex in some playthroughs. This does not mean that Wrex is always dead, or that softening Ash up towards aliens never mattered.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 04 février 2012 - 02:06 .

[Shifty-looking Chicken]

GodWood wrote...

Ash is the last squadmate I'd expect to be up for some chafing xeonphilia. If Garrus was to go for a non-Shepard human I'd assume it'd be Dr Michel.

She seemed pretty keen in that email.

Dr. Michel does give him turian chocolate, apparently. Don't know if that's supposed to mean anything, though, or if it ends up leading anywhere.

As for the other couple you're all talking about, not a fan at all. Still, it's only going to be in one of my six playthroughs, so I can deal with it.

Modifié par Shifty-looking Chicken, 04 février 2012 - 02:08 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

Dr. Michel does give him turian chocolate, apparently. Don't know if that's supposed to mean anything, though, or if it ends up leading anywhere.

You know, if Dr. Michel has a thing for Garrus, I wouldn't be surprised in the least.  It is really hard to not have a thing for Garrus.

Then again, I've given plenty of people tasty goodies for no reason other than to say thank you or be nice.  So...

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 04 février 2012 - 02:10 .

[Mims]

It means Garrus is a space pimp, getting all the ladies.

[Spoiler]

But if you romance Garrus, X makes an aside to Shepard about the chocolate. So she's clearly not jealous in the slightest of Femshep/Garrus.

[AdmiralCheez]

@Mims: She does?  Oh ho ho.  That's cute.

Everything is cute.  kajdaldsjhglfdakgdlfg

[Eradyn]

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Ash is the last squadmate I'd expect to be up for some chafing xeonphilia. If Garrus was to go for a non-Shepard human I'd assume it'd be Dr Michel.

She seemed pretty keen in that email.

Dr. Michel does give him turian chocolate, apparently. Don't know if that's supposed to mean anything, though, or if it ends up leading anywhere.

For Dr. Michel...but otherwise, no.

If I had to imagine any of the others getting with Garrus, it would be Ash after being softened.  She and Garrus have more in common than not and don't have a long-standing history of antagonism and disdain.  It would be a stretch, but then all of them would be a stretch.  Heck, the only reason Garrus was okay with hooking up with Shepard is because they have history (he can only be romanced if you had history with him in ME1 and recruited him (default in ME2), otherwise the option doesn't present itself), she breached the subject, and he respected her to a very great degree, moreso than anyone else in the galaxy (his words).  That's the only reason he considered a cross-species relationship, as it had never crossed his mind before.  He was in the turian-women camp.

So for him to just...hook up with X...especially considering their previous interactions and history...just...no.  I would accept Ash/Garrus before I could accept that pairing.

Modifié par Eradyn, 04 février 2012 - 02:20 .

[Damate]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

@Mims: Sometimes I think people have trouble grasping the concept of alternate timelines.

It's like how Ash shoots Wrex in some playthroughs. This does not mean that Wrex is always dead, or that softening Ash up towards aliens never mattered.

Oh, I don't know -- I think it's less about grasping alternate timelines/realities than a simple matter of personal taste and how each of us perceives the different squadmates. It sometimes proves difficult to immediately step out of our own head-space, ya know? If I'd found out this 'alt reality' romance was with someone else, I would have responded far more negatively (at least at first, until I processed it and tucked it away to the realm of 'well that's an.. interesting... idea, writers, thanks') than I am now.

[DarthEmpress]

Mims wrote...

[Possibly spoilers, since this is a top post]

It would be terribly unfortunate! Those space buses.

But, I just don't see any reason to feel threatened by it**. Both people in that couple still hold Shepard as one of the most important people in their lives. If Shepard is with Garrus, I don't see there ever being jealousy, because Shepard is still friends with X and Garrus is still friends with them. And visa versa, if Garrus was the odd one out. Friendship, not sexual attatchment, defines all three of their relationships. 

Its sort of how you can respect Shepard/Liara, or Shepard/Kaidan [ectectect]. Garrus/Shepard might be the perfect fit for your Shepard, but it isn't going to be that way for everyone. Lets say in ME2 Shepard decides to romance Thane. Presumably Shepard spends time with Thane, and in that time with Thane, Garrus spends hanging out with X. That time never exists if Shepard was romancing Garrus.

**Although I do get people who think they might be mismatched, and then it is just a matter of taste. Personally it doesn't bother me, and sort of makes sense to me based on X's romance with Shepard.

Yeah, I think it's similar to how some people who romance Shep/Liara all the time don't get Shep/Garrus and vice versa.  Just because it can happen in game doesn't mean it's true for your specific playthrough.  I'm just confused by how it happens at all because they're the last couple I thought would happen in game (in fanfiction definitely) so I just have to wait and see how it goes, I guess  Still not a fan, but if other people enjoy it then more power to them!

[Eradyn]

shygravel wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

@Mims: Sometimes I think people have trouble grasping the concept of alternate timelines.

It's like how Ash shoots Wrex in some playthroughs. This does not mean that Wrex is always dead, or that softening Ash up towards aliens never mattered.

Oh, I don't know -- I think it's less about grasping alternate timelines/realities than a simple matter of personal taste and how each of us perceives the different squadmates. It sometimes proves difficult to immediately step out of our own head-space, ya know? If I'd found out this 'alt reality' romance was with someone else, I would have responded far more negatively (at least at first, until I processed it and tucked it away to the realm of 'well that's an.. interesting... idea, writers, thanks') than I am now.

Well, it probably doesn't help that I already had a less-than-stellar opinion of this character.  It's okay, though.  I can either off her or not recruit her and ease my petty conscience.

SuranaMage wrote...

Yeah, I think it's similar to how some
people who romance Shep/Liara all the time don't get Shep/Garrus and
vice versa.  Just because it can happen in game doesn't mean it's true
for your specific playthrough.  I'm just confused by how it happens at
all because they're the last couple I thought would happen in game (in
fanfiction definitely) so I just have to wait and see how it goes, I
guess  Still not a fan, but if other people enjoy it then more power
to them!

Hmmm, for me, I have no problem "sharing" Garrus with everyone or accepting others play their games their way and romance other characters.  I think it's because...it's only THEIR universe that's affected.  Well, now this starts butting into MY universe so now it's more in the foreground of my mind.

Modifié par Eradyn, 04 février 2012 - 02:21 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Wait. Maybe the pairing happened because the fanbase never shipped it?

Or did they misinterpret Epic Bromance Support as Epic Romance Support?

[GodWood]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
Or did they misinterpret Epic Bromance Support as Epic Romance Support?

I find this likely.

[V-rex]

As cool as it would be, I find it very unlikely that Ashley and Garrus would ever get together. Ignoring the whole interspecies thing and the fact that they've come from drastically different lifestyles, what would they really have to talk about?
I mean from what I've seen so far they don't have much in the way of similar interests. While perhaps I could see the relationship starting up firey and passionate in a 'I can't believe this is happening' kind of way (See Xander and Cordelia in the second season of Buffy) I could see it then ending pretty quickly when Ashley wants to go listen to poetry recitals while Garrus wants to go snipe bad guys.
Besides, I wouldn't want my Ashley with anyone else, jealous man that I am, least of all with Garrus. I could never compete with Garrus of all people. That said it's an interesting idea and it would give a new perspective on what might be going through the minds of the characters in the following fan art:


But yeah, still don't know if it's likely. That said I would really like to see some kind of banter exchange between Ashley and Garrus in Mass Effect 3. Given that those two are going to be my 'main team' for that game, I'd like to think they would have some interesting back and forths.

[Eradyn]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Wait. Maybe the pairing happened because the fanbase never shipped it?

Or did they misinterpret Epic Bromance Support as Epic Romance Support?

Well here's what I'm thinking.  Reading through the script, I know they paid a lot of attention to what people were talking about, joking about, fantasizing about.  There was a time where this Garrus/X pairing received some support from some people.  But...there wasn't much vocalized disagreement against it...probably, as I told someone else, out of politeness and the belief that BW would never take it anywhere.  At least that was me.  Alas, squeaky wheel gets the grease and...the rest is history.

Or maybe they really did just misinterpret epic bromance support as epic romance support, at which point: fail.

[Damate]

Eradyn wrote...

shygravel wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

@Mims: Sometimes I think people have trouble grasping the concept of alternate timelines.

It's like how Ash shoots Wrex in some playthroughs. This does not mean that Wrex is always dead, or that softening Ash up towards aliens never mattered.

Oh, I don't know -- I think it's less about grasping alternate timelines/realities than a simple matter of personal taste and how each of us perceives the different squadmates. It sometimes proves difficult to immediately step out of our own head-space, ya know? If I'd found out this 'alt reality' romance was with someone else, I would have responded far more negatively (at least at first, until I processed it and tucked it away to the realm of 'well that's an.. interesting... idea, writers, thanks') than I am now.

Well, it probably doesn't help that I already had a less-than-stellar opinion of this character.  It's okay, though.  I can either off her or not recruit her and ease my petty conscience.

XD I hear ya.
Eradyn: No, X, you canNOT have my man.
X: But... your Shep totally isn't with him this play through!
Eradyn: Tell it to the swarm o' husks, tramp. *insert evil cacklings*

...or maybe that's just how I'd handle it if I didn't care for X (though I do).  Hey, if we can joke about it then it's all good, right?

[DarthEmpress]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Wait. Maybe the pairing happened because the fanbase never shipped it?

Or did they misinterpret Epic Bromance Support as Epic Romance Support?

Aren't both Garrus and X written by the same guy?  Maybe he always shipped them together?  I think they probably wanted to do this because it would be different and would show haters of Garrus/Femshep and X/Manshep that their worlds didn't revolve around Shepard or something.

Or they decided to troll the fanbase.  LOL they never really loved ur Shepards they wanted each other LOLOLOL (no, I don't think this I'm just joking )

[Shifty-looking Chicken]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Wait. Maybe the pairing happened because the fanbase never shipped it?

Or did they misinterpret Epic Bromance Support as Epic Romance Support?

If that is the case, then I have to sigh. Personally, they're my two favourite characters, and I never even thought of shipping them myself. Nor would I have ever thought that Bioware would ever do so.

Modifié par Shifty-looking Chicken, 04 février 2012 - 02:30 .

[GodWood]

SuranaMage wrote...
Aren't both Garrus and X written by the same guy?  Maybe he always shipped them together? 

Characters are worked on by multiple writers but overall Garrus' main writer was Mac whereas X's was Patrick.

[Sunset Sill]

For me, it's not so much being jealous as feeling... unnecessary? I'm, unfortunately, the kind of person who sometimes wonders, "Would so-and-so be better off without me?" Like, maybe X and Garrus would be happier together than either one would be with Shep (while the other is left FOREVER ALONE, so of course they're not as happy). Shepard is too awesome for this to ever be a valid way of thinking for her/him, though, so that's just my personal hang-up getting in the way.

It happened for awhile with Fenris and Isabela too--they seemed to be really into each other, so it jaded my Fenrismance playthrough a little bit: "If I weren't romancing Fenris, he would have had a happy relationship with Isabela, and she would've gotten that fine elf ass she was after, I'M JUST GETTING IN THE WAY OF THEIR HAPPINESS NUUUUU."

I got over it though. Mostly because the idea of a future threesome had appeal, though. That... will not be the solution in ME3. But like I said, that's my own self-deprecation coming in to play. I think I'm warming up to it though, separating all the universes in my head.

[DarthEmpress]

GodWood wrote...

SuranaMage wrote...
Aren't both Garrus and X written by the same guy?  Maybe he always shipped them together? 

Characters are worked on by multiple writers but overall Garrus' main writer was Mac whereas X's was Patrick.

I thought Mac only wrote Garrus in ME1 but Patrick wrote Garrus in ME2???  I'm confused 

[Shifty-looking Chicken]

GodWood wrote...

SuranaMage wrote...
Aren't both Garrus and X written by the same guy?  Maybe he always shipped them together? 

Characters are worked on by multiple writers but overall Garrus' main writer was Mac whereas X's was Patrick.

Is Garrus's main writer still Mac in ME3? Do we know yet? I know Mac's writing Vega...

[Eradyn]

shygravel wrote...


XD I hear ya.
Eradyn: No, X, you canNOT have my man.
X: But... your Shep totally isn't with him this play through!
Eradyn: Tell it to the swarm o' husks, tramp. *insert evil cacklings*

...or maybe that's just how I'd handle it if I didn't care for X (though I do).  Hey, if we can joke about it then it's all good, right?

ROFL xD I would have that streak of evilness at some point! Though honestly, there are some pairings I could go for.  That's just not one of them.  Hey, I can live and let live...er, except for X, she's going down. 

Sunset Sill wrote...

For me, it's not so much being
jealous as feeling... unnecessary? I'm, unfortunately, the kind of
person who sometimes wonders, "Would so-and-so be better off without
me?" Like, maybe X and Garrus would be happier together than either one
would be with Shep (while the other is left FOREVER ALONE, so of course
they're not as happy). Shepard is too awesome for this to ever be a
valid way of thinking for her/him, though, so that's just my personal
hang-up getting in the way.

It happened for awhile with Fenris
and Isabela too--they seemed to be really into each other, so it jaded
my Fenrismance playthrough a little bit: "If I weren't romancing Fenris,
he would have had a happy relationship with Isabela, and she would've
gotten that fine elf ass she was after, I'M JUST GETTING IN THE WAY OF
THEIR HAPPINESS NUUUUU."

I got over it though. Mostly because the
idea of a future threesome had appeal, though. That... will not be the
solution in ME3. But like I said, that's my own self-deprecation coming
in to play. I think I'm warming up to it though, separating all the
universes in my head.

The bolded part, especially.  It was just so...out of the blue? Even reading the script with their friendlier dialogue, I just didn't see it going there.  So when it did, I was all, "lolwut, really? Fanfiction I can see it...but really? For real? BW, you're kidding, right? Right? Please tell me you're--oh.  Oh, you're NOT joking.  Oh, dear."

Modifié par Eradyn, 04 février 2012 - 02:35 .

[AdmiralCheez]

SuranaMage wrote...

Aren't both Garrus and X written by the same guy?  Maybe he always shipped them together?  I think they probably wanted to do this because it would be different and would show haters of Garrus/Femshep and X/Manshep that their worlds didn't revolve around Shepard or something.

While Weekes did a lot of work with both characters, Garrus is mostly Walters' responsibility.  At least, he has been.

Or they decided to troll the fanbase.  LOL they never really loved ur Shepards they wanted each other LOLOLOL (no, I don't think this I'm just joking )

If Weekes is behind it, I wouldn't be surprised.  That man is an evil genius.

[Mims]

I got the impression from the script that Weekes wrote Garrus, but I have no proof of this claim.

[Eradyn]

Mims wrote...

I got the impression from the script that Weekes wrote Garrus, but I have no proof of this claim.

Pretty sure Weekes is the principle writer for Garrus.  Could be mistaken for ME3, but iirc, it was Weekes.  Who is most certainly an evil genius.

Edited for another TOP...I like their work, what can I say? 

Modifié par Eradyn, 04 février 2012 - 02:46 .