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#6851
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Eradyn wrote...

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I played ME2 first so I was wondering why she didn't like Garrus (just judging from the one convo they had) because I thought everyone said they were friends. Now I think she was just being snarky and not mean to him :3  I do think they are friends by the end of ME2, but I think before joining Shepard the second time around they weren't very close.  There's really not much to go on in ME2 beyond that one conversation they have.


That might be because many liked both characters, and do not want to imagine two of their favorite characters might have been less than friendly toward one another.  Do a youtube search for ME1 Garrus and Tali elevator conversations.  Puts the ME2 conversation more into perspective. :P

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Well,
his respect for X might come in ME3, but I'd be incredibly hard-pressed
to believe he had much, if any, respect for her leading up to ME3
considering their previous interactions.  That's where the disconnect
comes for me. :P

DISCLAIMER: Don't read this post if you don't want to know who X is.  I think I gave too many accidental hints.

Well,
yeah, he was a COMPLETE jerk to X in ME1, but if the elevator
conversations are to be believed, they soften up to each other a bit by
the endgame.  Also, he and X were as close to bros with each other as
possible in ME2, even moreso if quest orders hadn't been changed and
lines hadn't been cut.  So it seems that Bioware intended to friend-ship
them as much as the fandom does anyway.  And the fandom
DOES friend-ship them pretty hardcore.

They became bestest bros in ME2 in my headcanon, anyway.

@SuranaMage: Thank yoooouuuu~ <3


Maybe I missed some conversations; I know of the one where they're on the staircase in ME2, but it was still pretty nasty.  Are there others I'm missing? I don't recall there being ANY pleasant exchanges, much less friendly ones, in ME1 or ME2.  The fanbases' head-cannon friend-shipping aside.


There's a line she says if you mod the game to have her there for Garrus' mission.  She also makes a comment after Bailey says something, "Reminds me of a certain Turian we know."  That's all I can think of!

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Eradyn wrote...

Maybe I missed some conversations; I know of the one where they're on the staircase in ME2, but it was still pretty nasty.  Are there others I'm missing? I don't recall there being ANY pleasant exchanges, much less friendly ones, in ME1 or ME2.  The fanbases' head-cannon friend-shipping aside.

The elevator joke?  I always took it as friendly teasing, plus Garrus admitting he was a complete jerk to her in the classiest fashion possible.  While still being a jerk.

Garrus is such a charming jackass.

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X and Garrus? Ewwww.

X can't ninjamance Garrus, right? Please? :o

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k-baggs wrote...

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Also, he and X were as close to bros with each other as possible in ME2, even moreso if quest orders hadn't been changed and lines hadn't been cut.  So it seems that Bioware intended to friend-ship them as much as the fandom does anyway.  And the fandom DOES friend-ship them pretty hardcore.

Cut lines? I am intrigued.


For one, see Garrus and X interact at 2:36 here:
Without modding, you can't bring X on Garrus' recruitment mission.

Oh, I want that to be in my game! *nerd-rages at how X's recruitment mission is so far in*

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

Maybe I missed some conversations; I know of the one where they're on the staircase in ME2, but it was still pretty nasty.  Are there others I'm missing? I don't recall there being ANY pleasant exchanges, much less friendly ones, in ME1 or ME2.  The fanbases' head-cannon friend-shipping aside.

The elevator joke?  I always took it as friendly teasing, plus Garrus admitting he was a complete jerk to her in the classiest fashion possible.  While still being a jerk.

Garrus is such a charming jackass.


That's why my Femshep loves him <3  Although, it makes her want to punch him sometimes, especially when he was being all jerky to Tali in ME1 :3  I hope Shepard will response to squadmate bickering like Hawke does in Dragon Age 2.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

Maybe I missed some conversations; I know of the one where they're on the staircase in ME2, but it was still pretty nasty.  Are there others I'm missing? I don't recall there being ANY pleasant exchanges, much less friendly ones, in ME1 or ME2.  The fanbases' head-cannon friend-shipping aside.

The elevator joke?  I always took it as friendly teasing, plus Garrus admitting he was a complete jerk to her in the classiest fashion possible.  While still being a jerk.

Garrus is such a charming jackass.


He can be a charming jackass, can't he. xD

But no, sorry guys, I just don't see it.  ME3, sure I can definitely see where they finally drop it and finally become friends, but definitely not seeing it during ME2/ME1. :P But...live and let live and Garrus plushies for everyone. ^^

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X and Garrus? Ewwww.

X can't ninjamance Garrus, right? Please? :o


Only if you don't romance him (or her, as the case may be).  Obviously it won't happen if she's dead...or not recruited...the "nuke it from orbit, just to be sure" approach. :P

Modifié par Eradyn, 04 février 2012 - 03:23 .


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Eradyn wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

Maybe I missed some conversations; I know of the one where they're on the staircase in ME2, but it was still pretty nasty.  Are there others I'm missing? I don't recall there being ANY pleasant exchanges, much less friendly ones, in ME1 or ME2.  The fanbases' head-cannon friend-shipping aside.

The elevator joke?  I always took it as friendly teasing, plus Garrus admitting he was a complete jerk to her in the classiest fashion possible.  While still being a jerk.

Garrus is such a charming jackass.


He can be a charming jackass, can't he. xD

But no, sorry guys, I just don't see it.  ME3, sure I can definitely see where they finally drop it and finally become friends, but definitely not seeing it during ME2/ME1. :P But...live and let live and Garrus plushies for everyone. ^^


Same here!  I'd rather see more friend development between them than a romance, but if it's what makes others happy then love for all <3<3<3

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SuranaMage wrote...

I hope Shepard will response to squadmate bickering like Hawke does in Dragon Age 2.

Actually, Hawke didn't do a good job at all responding to squadmate bickering. I wanted to step in whenever Fenris or Anders was being mean to Merrill, but I couldn't.

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Eradyn wrote...

Only if you don't romance him (or her, as the case may be).  Or if she's dead...or not recruited...the "nuke it from orbit, just to be sure" approach. :P

Ah, so if my FemShep romances Garrus, X won't get him?

Because I'd rather not kill of X...I like X...just not with Garrus... :/

Modifié par SgtPepper667, 04 février 2012 - 03:23 .


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Garrus plushies! Eeeee! ♥

It's probably moot for a lot of us anyway. In my first/main/omg-omg-omg playthrough, it'll be the wonderfully charming jackass all the way. \\o/

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SgtPepper667 wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

Only if you don't romance him (or her, as the case may be).  Or if she's dead...or not recruited...the "nuke it from orbit, just to be sure" approach. :P

Ah, so if my FemShep romances Garrus, X won't get him?


Rest assured, if he's FemShep's beau, you will retain your very own personal turian bed warmer. ;p

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SgtPepper667 wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

Only if you don't romance him (or her, as the case may be).  Or if she's dead...or not recruited...the "nuke it from orbit, just to be sure" approach. :P

Ah, so if my FemShep romances Garrus, X won't get him?

No. And not vice-versa, either. Were it otherwise, my nerd-rage would be extreme indeed. For both sides.

Modifié par Shifty-looking Chicken, 04 février 2012 - 03:25 .


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Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

SgtPepper667 wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

Only if you don't romance him (or her, as the case may be).  Or if she's dead...or not recruited...the "nuke it from orbit, just to be sure" approach. :P

Ah, so if my FemShep romances Garrus, X won't get him?

No. And not vice-versa, either. Were it otherwise, my nerd-rage would be extreme indeed.


The rage would be strong across all the internets.  BW would likely not survive the fallout.

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@ Eradyn and Chicken: WHEW. I thought so, but you never know with Bioware. Now I don't have to nerd-rage! Thanks!

EDIT: Well...that's one nerd-rage I don't have to worry about...the other one? That looks inevitable. :/

Modifié par SgtPepper667, 04 février 2012 - 03:28 .


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SuranaMage wrote...

Same here!  I'd rather see more friend development between them than a romance, but if it's what makes others happy then love for all <3<3<3

Hey, I actually prefer EPIC FRIENDSHIP to lollermance myself.  I'm really just okay with the decision, as in I'd rather they didn't include it, but I won't pass up the opportunity to indulge in some ultra-super-kawaii hilarity.

I mean, good lord, those two on a date?  Shenanigans abound.

"Personal turian bedwarmer," eh?  I like that.

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SgtPepper667 wrote...

@ Eradyn and Chicken: WHEW. I thought so, but you never know with Bioware. Now I don't have to nerd-rage! Thanks!


Honestly how do you think the rest of the forum will react to this? Confusion I bet and maybe how silly it is. and if this was done just because they weren't arsed to make female turians...

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

SuranaMage wrote...

Same here!  I'd rather see more friend development between them than a romance, but if it's what makes others happy then love for all <3<3<3

Hey, I actually prefer EPIC FRIENDSHIP to lollermance myself.

We need more inter-squad EPIC FRIENDSHIPS than romances. I actually find X's interactions with Y (bringing in another codename here) to be my favourite inter-squad relationship in the game, and there's nothing remotely romantic about it.

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@Hyrule: There had BETTER be some femturian DLC, otherwise I might be forced to crack open a scrotum or two.

@Shifty: You need to give me a hint on who Y is.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

SuranaMage wrote...

Same here!  I'd rather see more friend development between them than a romance, but if it's what makes others happy then love for all <3<3<3

Hey, I actually prefer EPIC FRIENDSHIP to lollermance myself.  I'm really just okay with the decision, as in I'd rather they didn't include it, but I won't pass up the opportunity to indulge in some ultra-super-kawaii hilarity.

I mean, good lord, those two on a date?  Shenanigans abound.

"Personal turian bedwarmer," eh?  I like that.


I think I might pay to see them go on a date, if only for the lolz, because it would be epic in its awkwardness.  Combine them with the Friendzoned Turian and Charr (the poetry-spouting Krogan) and it's just...well, awkward :D

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Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

SuranaMage wrote...

Same here!  I'd rather see more friend development between them than a romance, but if it's what makes others happy then love for all <3<3<3

Hey, I actually prefer EPIC FRIENDSHIP to lollermance myself.

We need more inter-squad EPIC FRIENDSHIPS than romances. I actually find X's interactions with Y (bringing in another codename here) to be my favourite inter-squad relationship in the game, and there's nothing remotely romantic about it.


Wait, who's Y?  Ah, I'm so confused now! :pinched:

But yes!  More EPIC FRIENDSHIPS!

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

@Shifty: You need to give me a hint on who Y is.

Y was a squadmate in ME2 who we did not get to use nearly as much as we should have.

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Well, SuranaMage, look on the bright side--so long as Sheppykins is romantically entangled with either Garrus or X, there will be an EPIC FRIENDSHIP in the place of lollermance.

@Shifty: Ohhhhh, now I remember.  Yes, there will be many tears at the conclusion of such an EPIC FRIENDSHIP.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 04 février 2012 - 03:38 .


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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Well, SuranaMage, look on the bright side--so long as Sheppykins is romantically entangled with either Garrus or X, there will be an EPIC FRIENDSHIP in the place of lollermance.


My tears are all gone now, mucho thank you <3

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Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

@Shifty: You need to give me a hint on who Y is.

Y was a squadmate in ME2 who we did not get to use nearly as much as we should have.



Oh...Oh goodness...if it's who I think it is... :lol:

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Well, SuranaMage, look on the bright
side--so long as Sheppykins is romantically entangled with either
Garrus or X, there will be an EPIC FRIENDSHIP in the place of
lollermance.

@Shifty: Ohhhhh, now I remember.  Yes, there will be many tears at the conclusion of such an EPIC FRIENDSHIP.


I know...

:crying:

Modifié par Eradyn, 04 février 2012 - 03:40 .


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****, well I couldn't resist and have read all about the possible X and Garrus romance. (Goddam spoilers will be my undoing.)

That one actually kinda makes some sense to me, even if it's a little out of the blue. X makes more sense than any of the other squaddies as far as I'm concerned (for reasons that would be spoilers). I mean, any of them would be random, but I guess X is slightly less random than most.

And we fans did demand squadmances, so yay? I'm looking forward to seeing it in-game.