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[Hanar Ambassador]

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

On the positive side, we wouldn't even have to worry about this if they weren't both permanent squadmates.

I guess.

I mean, it grosses me out to the point that I'm tempted to kill off X in all of my non-Garrusmance ME2 playthroughs just so that I don't have to see it. But I LOVE X, so I don't want her to die ever! Sigh.

Also, my X/you-know-who shipper heart just died a horrible ugly death. Unless perhaps they hook up if you romanced Garrus, but I doubt it.

Modifié par Hanar Ambassador, 04 février 2012 - 04:54 .

[Eradyn]

Not quite TOP, but I needed to share this. ^^

[AdmiralCheez]

Demonique wrote...

I ship Ashley with Wrex, but I love Garrus/Ashley as well. The Ashley thread didn't find the idea of her and Wrex so appealing though

Of course they didn't--if you haven't figured it out already, LI fans can get damn possessive.

I'd like to hear your head canon

Hoo boy.

Well, a few pages back, I explained how I thought the ME1 crew got completely brotastic by the time the credits rolled.  Ash and Garrus specifically have a lot in common: they're passionate, trigger-happy, incredibly loyal, stubborn, snarky, and both have encountered major roadblocks in their lives that prevented them from doing what they really wanted to do.  They also both have younger sisters (and I want Sarah and Solana to be total BFFs one day, provided they both survive the war), and in my headcanon I imagine Ashley got Garrus to open up a little about his family.

My headcanon also tells me that they constantly competed in the battlefield.  Ashley became one hell of a sharpshooter thanks to her need to outdo that damn turian.  In return, interacting with Ash got Garrus to loosen up a bit and develop a sense of humor--something he completely lacked in ME1.

Then, come ME2, Garrus loses his whole squad in a sudden surprise attack--something Ash understands all too well.  Meanwhile, she's working solo under the Alliance banner, and both are uncovering the darker side of the galaxy.  Both are hardened.  Both are betrayed.

Skip ahead to ME3.  Ash is made a Spectre (something she'll undoubtedly give Garrus sh*t for, since he dropped out TWICE), and Garrus... gets all important and stuff.  They have both matured incredibly; they've become extremely capable leaders and unrivaled soldiers, toughened by the hardships they've endured, ready to give the Reapers as much hell as they can despite their lack of hope for victory.

Now we get to the whole compatability thing: Garrus is one charming bastard.  He's uglier than a diseased elcor's backside, but he's smoothly adorkable and a complete badass.  If Ash can go for Shepard, then she can definitely go for that, and the fact that he's not human not only makes her attraction deliciously ironic, but presents an awesome opportunity for character development.  Ash, meanwhile, is precisely the woman that Garrus would be attracted to--she's all business, full of spunk, and can completely kick his ass.  Over the course of ME3, they will certainly rekindle their camaraderie from ME1, so the trust and admiration they gained in my headcanon will return.

The only problem here is that neither one would approach the other.  Ash's personal beliefs would inhibit her ability to admit her emotions, and Garrus is a bit of a dolt when it comes to women, not to mention that awkward interspecies thing.  They'd need some sort of environmental trigger to get things going...

Or I could just friend-ship them.

[DarthEmpress]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Demonique wrote...

I ship Ashley with Wrex, but I love Garrus/Ashley as well. The Ashley thread didn't find the idea of her and Wrex so appealing though

Of course they didn't--if you haven't figured it out already, LI fans can get damn possessive.

I'd like to hear your head canon

Hoo boy.

Well, a few pages back, I explained how I thought the ME1 crew got completely brotastic by the time the credits rolled.  Ash and Garrus specifically have a lot in common: they're passionate, trigger-happy, incredibly loyal, stubborn, snarky, and both have encountered major roadblocks in their lives that prevented them from doing what they really wanted to do.  They also both have younger sisters (and I want Sarah and Solana to be total BFFs one day, provided they both survive the war), and in my headcanon I imagine Ashley got Garrus to open up a little about his family.

My headcanon also tells me that they constantly competed in the battlefield.  Ashley became one hell of a sharpshooter thanks to her need to outdo that damn turian.  In return, interacting with Ash got Garrus to loosen up a bit and develop a sense of humor--something he completely lacked in ME1.

Then, come ME2, Garrus loses his whole squad in a sudden surprise attack--something Ash understands all too well.  Meanwhile, she's working solo under the Alliance banner, and both are uncovering the darker side of the galaxy.  Both are hardened.  Both are betrayed.

Skip ahead to ME3.  Ash is made a Spectre (something she'll undoubtedly give Garrus sh*t for, since he dropped out TWICE), and Garrus... gets all important and stuff.  They have both matured incredibly; they've become extremely capable leaders and unrivaled soldiers, toughened by the hardships they've endured, ready to give the Reapers as much hell as they can despite their lack of hope for victory.

Now we get to the whole compatability thing: Garrus is one charming bastard.  He's uglier than a diseased elcor's backside, but he's smoothly adorkable and a complete badass.  If Ash can go for Shepard, then she can definitely go for that, and the fact that he's not human not only makes her attraction deliciously ironic, but presents an awesome opportunity for character development.  Ash, meanwhile, is precisely the woman that Garrus would be attracted to--she's all business, full of spunk, and can completely kick his ass.  Over the course of ME3, they will certainly rekindle their camaraderie from ME1, so the trust and admiration they gained in my headcanon will return.

The only problem here is that neither one would approach the other.  Ash's personal beliefs would inhibit her ability to admit her emotions, and Garrus is a bit of a dolt when it comes to women, not to mention that awkward interspecies thing.  They'd need some sort of environmental trigger to get things going...

Or I could just friend-ship them.

I approve of this immensely <3  I always thought Ash was a slightly more renegade version of Femshep.  She has similar strength and badassery so I can see Garrus going for that.  It would be really interesting to see Ash developing feelings for a non-human and vice versa.  I think I would do a non-Garrus romance playthrough just to see them get together if Bioware ever chose to ship them.  I doubt they ever would, but it would be so cool and different...not like "pairing up them spares" 

[CroGamer002]

^Strange.

I'm fine with AshleyxGarrus and yet very anti-TalixGarrus.

[Shifty-looking Chicken]

I'm not sure how I would feel about a Garrus/Ashley romance. Still seems a little odd, although the fact that I almost never use the two together probably contributes to that feeling.

Actually, I just realized that even if they did put that in I'd never see it. The only playthroughs I have in which Ashley survives are my Garrus-romancing playthroughs, due to my tendency to kill off opposite-gender VS.

[Eradyn]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Demonique wrote...

I ship Ashley with Wrex, but I love Garrus/Ashley as well. The Ashley thread didn't find the idea of her and Wrex so appealing though

Of course they didn't--if you haven't figured it out already, LI fans can get damn possessive.

I'd like to hear your head canon

Hoo boy.

Well, a few pages back, I explained how I thought the ME1 crew got completely brotastic by the time the credits rolled.  Ash and Garrus specifically have a lot in common: they're passionate, trigger-happy, incredibly loyal, stubborn, snarky, and both have encountered major roadblocks in their lives that prevented them from doing what they really wanted to do.  They also both have younger sisters (and I want Sarah and Solana to be total BFFs one day, provided they both survive the war), and in my headcanon I imagine Ashley got Garrus to open up a little about his family.

My headcanon also tells me that they constantly competed in the battlefield.  Ashley became one hell of a sharpshooter thanks to her need to outdo that damn turian.  In return, interacting with Ash got Garrus to loosen up a bit and develop a sense of humor--something he completely lacked in ME1.

Then, come ME2, Garrus loses his whole squad in a sudden surprise attack--something Ash understands all too well.  Meanwhile, she's working solo under the Alliance banner, and both are uncovering the darker side of the galaxy.  Both are hardened.  Both are betrayed.

Skip ahead to ME3.  Ash is made a Spectre (something she'll undoubtedly give Garrus sh*t for, since he dropped out TWICE), and Garrus... gets all important and stuff.  They have both matured incredibly; they've become extremely capable leaders and unrivaled soldiers, toughened by the hardships they've endured, ready to give the Reapers as much hell as they can despite their lack of hope for victory.

Now we get to the whole compatability thing: Garrus is one charming bastard.  He's uglier than a diseased elcor's backside, but he's smoothly adorkable and a complete badass.  If Ash can go for Shepard, then she can definitely go for that, and the fact that he's not human not only makes her attraction deliciously ironic, but presents an awesome opportunity for character development.  Ash, meanwhile, is precisely the woman that Garrus would be attracted to--she's all business, full of spunk, and can completely kick his ass.  Over the course of ME3, they will certainly rekindle their camaraderie from ME1, so the trust and admiration they gained in my headcanon will return.

The only problem here is that neither one would approach the other.  Ash's personal beliefs would inhibit her ability to admit her emotions, and Garrus is a bit of a dolt when it comes to women, not to mention that awkward interspecies thing.  They'd need some sort of environmental trigger to get things going...

Or I could just friend-ship them.

Your head cannon. I love it. OwO You've summed up all my thoughts beautifully.

[AdmiralCheez]

@Eradyn: Canon. C-A-N-O-N. A cannon with two n's is the thing you fire cannonballs out of.

But thanks! You too, Surana, Mesina.

@Shifty: That is unfortunate.

[Eradyn]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

@Eradyn: Canon. C-A-N-O-N. A cannon with two n's is the thing you fire cannonballs out of.

But thanks! You too, Surana, Mesina.

@Shifty: That is unfortunate.

I know, I know. Unfortunately I'm now typing from my phone and its auto-correct can be stupid...and it freaks out over BSN for whatever reason. You'll just have to live with it.

[Shifty-looking Chicken]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

@Shifty: That is unfortunate.

What can I say, I'm so paranoidly afraid of ninjamances that I have to nuke the potential romance option even when I know I've successfully avoided the romance.

Anyway, there's no reason that Ashley and Garrus can't have one of those EPIC FRIENDSHIPS.

[darthnick427]

Apparently I'm the only one in this thread that totally love the Garrus/X pairing.... Why doesn't anyone else seem to like it? is it because they wanted them with someone else or do they just not like the idea of "their" LI with someone else in a different playthrough?

[AdmiralCheez]

@Eradyn: Oh fine, I forgive you.

@Shifty: EPIC FRIENDSHIPS are indeed epic and should always be referenced in all caps. As for ninjamances, I still have the problem in ME2 as BroShep.

@Darthnick: It's because there's a certain rocket-launching marine out there that will now be forever alone.

Okay, bedtime. It was a pleasure, guys.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 04 février 2012 - 05:44 .

[Demonique]

KMxHearts wrote...

 The anticipation for ME 3 is absolutely agonizing! I feel like I'm going to go nuts... sorta like this guy:

No wonder he's mad, he's in a badly drawn comic with a lot of derp faces

[Shifty-looking Chicken]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

@Shifty: EPIC FRIENDSHIPS are indeed epic and should always be referenced in all caps. As for ninjamances, I still have the problem in ME2 as BroShep.

You mean Jack? Yeah, I just don't talk to her after the first post-loyalty conversation. I have to admit, the lack of a proper non-romance friendship path with her annoyed me to no end.

@Darthnick: It's because there's a certain rocket-launching marine out there that will now be forever alone.

I'll bet Kal'Reegar gets his pick of all the quarian women. So he'll probably be fine.

Modifié par Shifty-looking Chicken, 04 février 2012 - 05:48 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

You mean Jack? Yeah, I just don't talk to her after the first post-loyalty conversation. I have to admit, the lack of a proper non-romance friendship path with her annoyed me to no end.

Argh, yes.  So anger-y.

Also I siad I was going to bed but first I need to share this cool thing I found:



Artist.

Okay now I sleep.

[nitefyre410]

Eradyn wrote...

Not quite TOP, but I needed to share this. ^^

*SniP*

  


Assissan's Creed Style  Garrus.. 

+100... full approvally 

[darthnick427]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

@Darthnick: It's because there's a certain rocket-launching marine out there that will now be forever alone.

I see. but in my head canon Kal Reeger was like the best marine out there so he had quarian women all over him. Plus I always got a good friends vibe from those too. hmm maybe that's the vibe people are getting from Garrus/X. I see why people are unhappy but I'm still all for Garrus/X lol

[Billabong2011]

Oh my, sorry for the late reply, I can't believe I opened such a can of worms, I'm sorry!! I agree with so many people in this thread it's overwhelming... and it's kind of sad, but I feel like I could write a dissertation on why I dislike the Garrus/X pairing (I mean, you're talking to the girl who wrote an essay on Stefan/Elena/Damon and tweeted it to Julie Plec only to receive an answer IN an episode... xD), but I don't want to subject anyone to that kind of torture! Suffice it to say that there are many, many things that make me dislike the pairing from a writer's standpoint -- I always get too invested in any story, be it movie, show, book, game, and as a result it's like I feel I know the characters just as well as the writers, which is arrogant on my part, I know. I just hate when my intelligence is insulted as a reader/player/viewer.

Plus, for me, I find 'just ignoring it' or going back and enjoying its early components to be impossible after having been exposed to whatever plot arc I don't like, because it's like I have this feeling of inevitability as I experience it over again, like I know where the story is headed is somewhere I hate, so it sours everything that comes before it.

This is all a bunch of mindless ramblings, so ignore me. Sorry! Anyway, sexeh Garrus is teh sex???

Modifié par Billabong2011, 04 février 2012 - 05:57 .

[mythlover20]

It's been a few days since I've been on this thread, and this is talk of squaddie romances confused. Till I read the last few pages and I got it.

I've always friend-shipped Garrus and Tali in my headcanon, and I've always thought that Ash and Garrus didn't really get along... Garrus wasn't always under the Mako just to fix it, but to avoid having to talk to Ashley! I don't want to see Garrus and Tali paired up, because they've always given me the "siblings" vibe.

It would be interesting to see Garrus and Ash paired up though. Not sure if that would happen though.

[nitefyre410]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Demonique wrote...

I ship Ashley with Wrex, but I love Garrus/Ashley as well. The Ashley thread didn't find the idea of her and Wrex so appealing though

Of course they didn't--if you haven't figured it out already, LI fans can get damn possessive.

I'd like to hear your head canon

*snip* 

 


So the Short verison... is 

Ashley and Garrus  Friendship  = Hijinks and EPIC EXPLOSION ensue. 

[Twilight_Princess]

darthnick427 wrote...

Apparently I'm the only one in this thread that totally love the Garrus/X pairing.... Why doesn't anyone else seem to like it? is it because they wanted them with someone else or do they just not like the idea of "their" LI with someone else in a different playthrough?

If it were a female turian I would have been more accepting. The fact that X isn't a turian is odd given the context of the ME2 romance. "Interspecies? Never thought of that until you brought it up. Ok, only with you shep because there's no one I respect more" it implied garrus would only go outside his species for someone like shep. The fact he does it anyway...well just makes it less special to me (just my opinion).

Also I always thought of them as siblings who got on each others nerves, X definitely being the younger one. And even after digesting this a bit it STILL feels like a trolling attempt because of how silly it is.I just thought there were better ways to show garrus as a single guy than just slapping him with X.

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 04 février 2012 - 06:01 .

[MissMaster]

I might be the only one but I think it is cute :3 Now I know that X won't get on his jock if FemShep is romancing him. I like to think that Garrus has always been holding on for Shepard but if she does not fall for him then I can see him moving on to X.

As for Ash and Garrus, in my head canon Ash is always a little uncomfortable at how close him and Shepard are. It creeps her out. That's just my head canon though no need spreading it around.

Modifié par MissMaster, 04 février 2012 - 06:18 .

[DarthEmpress]

I think this thread needs some Garrus/Tali friendship BFF fanart...
 
By Conley from tumblr

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...

Apparently I'm the only one in this thread that totally love the Garrus/X pairing.... Why doesn't anyone else seem to like it? is it because they wanted them with someone else or do they just not like the idea of "their" LI with someone else in a different playthrough?

If it were a female turian I would have been more accepting. The fact that X isn't a turian is odd given the context of the ME2 romance. "Interspecies? Never thought of that until you brought it up. Ok, only with you shep because there's no one I respect more" it implied garrus would only go outside his species for someone like shep. The fact he does it anyway...well just makes it less special to me (just my opinion). 

Also I always thought of them as siblings who got on each others nerves, X definitely being the younger one. And even after digesting this a bit it STILL feels like a trolling attempt because of how silly it is.I just thought there were better ways to show garrus as a single guy than just slapping him with X.

Agree on all points!  I think it's awesome if people like this pairing, and if you support it then you should be able to celebrate it and enjoy it in game.  I just don't like the pairing because of all the reasons that have been stated before.  It weirds me out because it's not only a little boring (althought the awkwardness is cute) but also because I don't really see it doing anything for their character development.  It's just sort of tacted on for the fun and lolz.  Honestly, I felt that their romances with Shepard really fleshed out their personalities and struggles (just my opinion, though, others have certainly disagreed on this).

Anyway...we'll see how it goes when the game comes out 

Modifié par SuranaMage, 04 février 2012 - 06:16 .

[Anthropophobic]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

You mean Jack? Yeah, I just don't talk to her after the first post-loyalty conversation. I have to admit, the lack of a proper non-romance friendship path with her annoyed me to no end.

Argh, yes.  So anger-y.

Also I siad I was going to bed but first I need to share this cool thing I found:

snip
Artist.

Okay now I sleep.

That's awesome. Sort of reminds me of Metal Gear Solid, somehow. MGS3 intro playing in my head now, but with the main character replaced with Garrus.

[Hanar Ambassador]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...
And even after digesting this a bit it STILL feels like a trolling attempt because of how silly it is.I just thought there were better ways to show garrus as a single guy than just slapping him with X.

This.

Regardless of whatever issues I have with their "romance" itself, in the end what bothers me most is that it really feels like a big troll attempt. Because there's no way the writers wouldn't have been able to predict the fan reaction, knowing how sensitive people are to LI stuff and knowing how huge the fanbases are for those characters. This isn't like Miranda/Jacob, which at least has some basis in history of happening (and I'm not saying anything will happen between those two, it was just an example). This feels forced and added in purely to bait fans. And on BioWare's part, that just seems really childish. I don't want to offend the writers, because I do appreciate all that they have done for the series, but it's my honest opinion.

Yes, it might make some people happy. But it will most likely make even more people upset, and I don't think it's worth it. 

I suppose we can hope that they took it out of the final script, but I kind of doubt it. Maybe some PC players will find a way to mod it out of the game, because I'd really rather not have to kill off anyone just so I can avoid something that makes me uncomfortable.