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Eradyn

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Oh, my. Just saw Garrus' art book page. *fans self*

And after intense scrutiny, I no longer believe turians have overly pronounced collars/ridges/whatever. I believe it a functionality of their armor as well as, possibly, a fashion statement. After studying ME2 armor (particularly Garrus' battle damage), various turian civvies, and now his ME3 art book page, this is a conclusion I am more comfortable drawing...though for the longest time I thought otherwise. I think I started having my doubts in ME2, and now after looking at the armor design in ME3, it just makes no sense for it to be biological.

And you know what? I'm okay with that idea. Because Garrus is still pretty damned fine. *Prints out picture and tapes it next to her monitors.*

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@Eradyn
Do you have a link to the page? plz

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Eradyn wrote...

Oh, my. Just saw Garrus' art book page. *fans self*

And after intense scrutiny, I no longer believe turians have overly pronounced collars/ridges/whatever. I believe it a functionality of their armor as well as, possibly, a fashion statement. After studying ME2 armor (particularly Garrus' battle damage), various turian civvies, and now his ME3 art book page, this is a conclusion I am more comfortable drawing...though for the longest time I thought otherwise. I think I started having my doubts in ME2, and now after looking at the armor design in ME3, it just makes no sense for it to be biological.

And you know what? I'm okay with that idea. Because Garrus is still pretty damned fine. *Prints out picture and tapes it next to her monitors.*

do you happen to have a link to said art book page? :3

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Garrusplosion. Makes me want to go back to the drawing board again. This thread inspired me to tackle drawing turians, but having drawn nothing but anime girls for all my life this proved to be quite a challenge.

Now don't get any funny ideas about turian anime girls.....

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Eradyn wrote...

Oh, my. Just saw Garrus' art book page. *fans self*

And after intense scrutiny, I no longer believe turians have overly pronounced collars/ridges/whatever. I believe it a functionality of their armor as well as, possibly, a fashion statement. After studying ME2 armor (particularly Garrus' battle damage), various turian civvies, and now his ME3 art book page, this is a conclusion I am more comfortable drawing...though for the longest time I thought otherwise. I think I started having my doubts in ME2, and now after looking at the armor design in ME3, it just makes no sense for it to be biological.

And you know what? I'm okay with that idea. Because Garrus is still pretty damned fine. *Prints out picture and tapes it next to her monitors.*


It looks like in the art book that the ridge thingy is absent, which I kind of like.  I wonder if that means Garrus will have more hugging/intimate scenes with Shepard?  It'll be easier to animated <3

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Finished. Bahaha. Garrus is such a mouthy cutie. Or something... He is very... "But we'll be late... just: kill them/let them die/ignore them/STOP BEING REASONABLE!! Okay I give, you were right."

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SuranaMage wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

Oh, my. Just saw Garrus' art book page. *fans self*

And after intense scrutiny, I no longer believe turians have overly pronounced collars/ridges/whatever. I believe it a functionality of their armor as well as, possibly, a fashion statement. After studying ME2 armor (particularly Garrus' battle damage), various turian civvies, and now his ME3 art book page, this is a conclusion I am more comfortable drawing...though for the longest time I thought otherwise. I think I started having my doubts in ME2, and now after looking at the armor design in ME3, it just makes no sense for it to be biological.

And you know what? I'm okay with that idea. Because Garrus is still pretty damned fine. *Prints out picture and tapes it next to her monitors.*


It looks like in the art book that the ridge thingy is absent, which I kind of like.  I wonder if that means Garrus will have more hugging/intimate scenes with Shepard?  It'll be easier to animated <3


Yes please! :wub:

And less clipping issues. 

Also...

Hey...yeah...that new Brandon Keener commercial? Someone jumped on it already.

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Hey...yeah...that new Brandon Keener commercial? Someone jumped on it already.


I refer you to this man as my spokesperson.

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I know several people here don't like the carapace or are fine with it being missing, but I'm honestly going to be a little grossed out if he doesn't have at least a little one.  There's a carapace in the old concept art from way back, and the majority of fanart shows Garrus with one, so to me imagining that it isn't there is really weird and offputting.  Looking at his ME3 armor, it doesn't look like the shell could extend very high at all, so if it's short that's fine, and if they need it to move then they could put a texture on it that makes it look scaled or segmented.  But if he has a bare, humanlike back, I'll be pretty :unsure: 

Still, his art book picture has an inside view of his cuirass that makes it look like the shell just isn't there, so...I guess I'm prepared to be weirded out.

Not that any carapace he'd have should be really high, anyway - how would he look up?


edit: omg SavageLycan you always make the Garrus videos that make me lol

Modifié par k-baggs, 06 février 2012 - 03:45 .


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Eradyn wrote...

SuranaMage wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

Oh, my. Just saw Garrus' art book page. *fans self*

And after intense scrutiny, I no longer believe turians have overly pronounced collars/ridges/whatever. I believe it a functionality of their armor as well as, possibly, a fashion statement. After studying ME2 armor (particularly Garrus' battle damage), various turian civvies, and now his ME3 art book page, this is a conclusion I am more comfortable drawing...though for the longest time I thought otherwise. I think I started having my doubts in ME2, and now after looking at the armor design in ME3, it just makes no sense for it to be biological.

And you know what? I'm okay with that idea. Because Garrus is still pretty damned fine. *Prints out picture and tapes it next to her monitors.*


It looks like in the art book that the ridge thingy is absent, which I kind of like.  I wonder if that means Garrus will have more hugging/intimate scenes with Shepard?  It'll be easier to animated <3


Yes please! :wub:

And less clipping issues. 

Also...

Hey...yeah...that new Brandon Keener commercial? Someone jumped on it already.


OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE IT WAS DONE THAT FAST :lol:  That is seriously hilarious and awesome...and of course the scary Garrus-sexing-Jacob face at the end...

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k-baggs wrote...

I know several people here don't like the carapace or are fine with it being missing, but I'm honestly going to be a little grossed out if he doesn't have at least a little one.  There's a carapace in the old concept art from way back, and the majority of fanart shows Garrus with one, so to me imagining that it isn't there is really weird and offputting.  Looking at his ME3 armor, it doesn't look like the shell could extend very high at all, so if it's short that's fine, and if they need it to move then they could put a texture on it that makes it look scaled or segmented.  But if he has a bare, humanlike back, I'll be pretty :unsure:.  Still, his art book picture has an inside view of his cuirass that makes it look like the shell just isn't there, so...I guess I'm prepared to be weirded out.

Not that any carapace he'd have should be really high, anyway - how would he look up?


Yeah, but fan art is just...fanart...and to be blunt, most people draw 'em like withered mummies based off that really old concept art which is...eh...not my cup of tea. :P Besides, it was off anyway as we know Saren underwent many changes.  So I'm more than cool with them not looking like that.

I do agree that I don't want it to look too human.  I imagine you still have thick plates/scales along the back, probably shoulders (anywhere that would have more concentrated sun exposure, as that makes more sense biologically), matching what you have going with the neck, but the armor just doesn't allow for much room for any protruding carapace/collar/whatever.  At least not to any significant degree at all; you see that with the civvies and you can definitely tell with Garrus' ME2 battle-damaged armor, and his ME3 armor/art book page just makes it even more clear (imho). 

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Eradyn: "withered mummies" lol

Mostly I don't want him to look "too human," and I'd be fine with back plates or scales like you said.  If there isn't a thing that protudes, okay, just....ahhh, no naked human back, please!

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Artbook page, I assume it is cool to post here since I got the image from an MTV article-
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MissMaster wrote...

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OwO

<3

Quick! To the slow-mo mobile!

k-baggs wrote...

Eradyn: "withered mummies" lol

Mostly
I don't want him to look "too human," and I'd be fine with back plates
or scales like you said.  If there isn't a thing that protudes, okay,
just....ahhh, no naked human back, please!


I'm with you 100% on that.  I don't want it too human (all...smooth and...mannequin-ish), and would love to see some scales/plates back there.

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Artbook page, I assume it is cool to post here since I got the image from an MTV article-


Yep, that's the one! Though I think the mods have been going around deleting the leaked art book pics, so I'm not sure if it's okay now or not...

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SuranaMage wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

SuranaMage wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

Oh, my. Just saw Garrus' art book page. *fans self*

And after intense scrutiny, I no longer believe turians have overly pronounced collars/ridges/whatever. I believe it a functionality of their armor as well as, possibly, a fashion statement. After studying ME2 armor (particularly Garrus' battle damage), various turian civvies, and now his ME3 art book page, this is a conclusion I am more comfortable drawing...though for the longest time I thought otherwise. I think I started having my doubts in ME2, and now after looking at the armor design in ME3, it just makes no sense for it to be biological.

And you know what? I'm okay with that idea. Because Garrus is still pretty damned fine. *Prints out picture and tapes it next to her monitors.*


It looks like in the art book that the ridge thingy is absent, which I kind of like.  I wonder if that means Garrus will have more hugging/intimate scenes with Shepard?  It'll be easier to animated <3


Yes please! :wub:

And less clipping issues. 

Also...

Hey...yeah...that new Brandon Keener commercial? Someone jumped on it already.


OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE IT WAS DONE THAT FAST :lol:  That is seriously hilarious and awesome...and of course the scary Garrus-sexing-Jacob face at the end...


I just bellylaughed like...a great big bellylaughing thing.  So awesome.

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Oh, and Eradyn: I also don't think they should necessarily follow fanart, but if he looks really different, I'd have to adjust my headcanon and that'd feel weird, but I would. There's a lot of different fanart of Tali's face, and if we see her face in the game, it'd be breaking somebody's headcanon no matter what she looked like. :)

edit: yeah I've seen scans get dinged by mods too, but it's out there to look for if not okay to post

edit 2: It's kind of like when I saw the turian woman in the Evolution comic, and I went, "She's bald?!"  And I was all "aiiee, no!" but I saw a different panel where she had scales going down her head and neck and I thought, ah, well that's fine by me.

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Eradyn wrote...

k-baggs wrote...

I know several people here don't like the carapace or are fine with it being missing, but I'm honestly going to be a little grossed out if he doesn't have at least a little one.  There's a carapace in the old concept art from way back, and the majority of fanart shows Garrus with one, so to me imagining that it isn't there is really weird and offputting.  Looking at his ME3 armor, it doesn't look like the shell could extend very high at all, so if it's short that's fine, and if they need it to move then they could put a texture on it that makes it look scaled or segmented.  But if he has a bare, humanlike back, I'll be pretty :unsure:.  Still, his art book picture has an inside view of his cuirass that makes it look like the shell just isn't there, so...I guess I'm prepared to be weirded out.

Not that any carapace he'd have should be really high, anyway - how would he look up?


Yeah, but fan art is just...fanart...and to be blunt, most people draw 'em like withered mummies based off that really old concept art which is...eh...not my cup of tea. :P Besides, it was off anyway as we know Saren underwent many changes.  So I'm more than cool with them not looking like that.

I do agree that I don't want it to look too human.  I imagine you still have thick plates/scales along the back, probably shoulders (anywhere that would have more concentrated sun exposure, as that makes more sense biologically), matching what you have going with the neck, but the armor just doesn't allow for much room for any protruding carapace/collar/whatever.  At least not to any significant degree at all; you see that with the civvies and you can definitely tell with Garrus' ME2 battle-damaged armor, and his ME3 armor/art book page just makes it even more clear (imho). 


:lol: haha yes some of fanart of Garrus' anatomy does indeed creep me out, but there's been quite a few that I've found very attractive; not in the same way as a human is attractive, but in a way I can appreciate <3  I would post some of them, but they're largely in the NSFW catagory :whistle:

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Hehehe

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EDIT: Oh man. ME3 armor. <3

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Eradyn wrote...

Yep, that's the one! Though I think the mods have been going around deleting the leaked art book pics, so I'm not sure if it's okay now or not...


Well, then they shouldn't have given preview images to a relatively high profile company's game blog. There are some other character pages there too (Ash, Kaidan, Vega, and Liara). :P

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k-baggs wrote...

Oh, and Eradyn: I also don't think they should necessarily follow fanart, but if he looks really different, I'd have to adjust my headcanon and that'd feel weird, but I would. There's a lot of different fanart of Tali's face, and if we see her face in the game, it'd be breaking somebody's headcanon no matter what she looked like. :)

edit: yeah I've seen scans get dinged by mods too, but it's out there to look for if not okay to post

edit 2: It's kind of like when I saw the turian woman in the Evolution comic, and I went, "She bald?!"  And I was all "aaiiee, no!" but I saw a different panel where she had scales going down her head and neck and I thought, ah, well that's fine by me.


Exactly (re: turian females), though I don't think it's officially canon until it's in the game.  And really, Derp Horse does such a horrible and inconsistent job as it is...I mean, they were changing female turians up all over the place, from page to page it seemed. :lol: I think BW will do a better job than Derp Horse, though...or at least I hope so.  Tbh, though...I think my headcanon can adjust just fine if BW goes all the way and we get shirtless Garrus.  Granting, of course, he isn't a turian head plopped onto a human body.  I want scales, BW, scales! Plates..scales...whatever... :P

SuranaMage wrote...

[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie] haha
yes some of fanart of Garrus' anatomy does indeed creep me out, but
there's been quite a few that I've found very attractive; not in the
same way as a human is attractive, but in a way I can appreciate [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie]  I would post some of them, but they're largely in the NSFW catagory [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]


Heeee, that's alright, I've probably seen them anyway. :innocent: And I agree, there have been a rare few that looked more than fine.  It's just took wading through countless turian zombies/mummies to find them...but ultimately it was worth it to find the gems.

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I kind of assumed there wasn't a giant plate on turian backs as the ridiculously high collars probably served a more practical function. IE: nobody checking out some hot turian tushy from behind gets fringe-stabbed in the eye. I believe Mordin would call that, "messy."

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Eradyn: everything you said! After all, Feron looked pretty different in the comics than he did in LOTSB.

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OccamSansRazor wrote...

I kind of assumed there wasn't a giant plate on turian backs as the ridiculously high collars probably served a more practical function. IE: nobody checking out some hot turian tushy from behind gets fringe-stabbed in the eye. I believe Mordin would call that, "messy."


Eeeexactly, heheh.  It's seeming more like it serves a practical, functional purpose...especially related to the fringes and protecting their necks from stray fragments/bullets/what-have-you in a combat situation.  Or protecting others from said fringes should they be paying attention to other things than where they're going... :P

yukidama wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

Yep,
that's the one! Though I think the mods have been going around deleting
the leaked art book pics, so I'm not sure if it's okay now or not...


Well, then they shouldn't have given preview images to a relatively high profile company's game blog. There are some other character pages there too (Ash, Kaidan, Vega, and Liara). [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]



OH REALLY

Well you would never find any complaints from me anyway! Hopefully BW will let us keep our turian eye candy. :D

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I cannot wait to look at that page in the real art book! :3 *totally pre-ordered it from Amazon*

EDIT: Oh, look! ToP!

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