Sorael.A wrote...
Oh O: Well that's good to know haha I wanted to know who she was but I'm not sure if that's something that's okay for me to know now or will be better when I actually get the game.
Of course, you may really like the pairing!
SuranaMage wrote...
Sorael.A wrote...
Oh O: Well that's good to know haha I wanted to know who she was but I'm not sure if that's something that's okay for me to know now or will be better when I actually get the game.
I'm actually glad I know ahead of time because now I have time to process and accept it
AlphaDormante wrote...
In relation to the pairing, I would like it if the trigger for it lay within a few player-raised flags - dialogue options encouraging one or the other towards the idea, for example. I don't think the player should have control over EVERY couple that could possibly shack up, but at least for the LIs, I think it'd keep a lot of players from feeling like they're interfering with "canon couples" or being otherwise shafted somehow.
Sorry if this has already been suggested; I've only been able to read a little bit on the discussion for the last couple pages.
Sorael.A wrote...
AlphaDormante wrote...
In relation to the pairing, I would like it if the trigger for it lay within a few player-raised flags - dialogue options encouraging one or the other towards the idea, for example. I don't think the player should have control over EVERY couple that could possibly shack up, but at least for the LIs, I think it'd keep a lot of players from feeling like they're interfering with "canon couples" or being otherwise shafted somehow.
Sorry if this has already been suggested; I've only been able to read a little bit on the discussion for the last couple pages.
That's pretty much my feelings, I know they will tell you nothing is 'canon' but it's not going to stop my jealous mind from thinking that :< I need all the feels.
SuranaMage wrote...
Sorael.A wrote...
AlphaDormante wrote...
In relation to the pairing, I would like it if the trigger for it lay within a few player-raised flags - dialogue options encouraging one or the other towards the idea, for example. I don't think the player should have control over EVERY couple that could possibly shack up, but at least for the LIs, I think it'd keep a lot of players from feeling like they're interfering with "canon couples" or being otherwise shafted somehow.
Sorry if this has already been suggested; I've only been able to read a little bit on the discussion for the last couple pages.
That's pretty much my feelings, I know they will tell you nothing is 'canon' but it's not going to stop my jealous mind from thinking that :< I need all the feels.
I'm so happy they said that 'no canon' thing because then your favorite playthrough can be canon, at least for you <3 I think it would be nice to address the pairing in dialogues, like comment that so-and-so thinks Garrus is cute and that gives him an idea to maybe pursue it. I think Shepard flat out saying, "No, you shouldn't date," would make a lot of people mad because why should Shepard choose whom her friends can love? I would still like the option to steer them away from each other through dialogue, but not in a mean way.
Sorael.A wrote...
SuranaMage wrote...
Sorael.A wrote...
AlphaDormante wrote...
In relation to the pairing, I would like it if the trigger for it lay within a few player-raised flags - dialogue options encouraging one or the other towards the idea, for example. I don't think the player should have control over EVERY couple that could possibly shack up, but at least for the LIs, I think it'd keep a lot of players from feeling like they're interfering with "canon couples" or being otherwise shafted somehow.
Sorry if this has already been suggested; I've only been able to read a little bit on the discussion for the last couple pages.
That's pretty much my feelings, I know they will tell you nothing is 'canon' but it's not going to stop my jealous mind from thinking that :< I need all the feels.
I'm so happy they said that 'no canon' thing because then your favorite playthrough can be canon, at least for you <3 I think it would be nice to address the pairing in dialogues, like comment that so-and-so thinks Garrus is cute and that gives him an idea to maybe pursue it. I think Shepard flat out saying, "No, you shouldn't date," would make a lot of people mad because why should Shepard choose whom her friends can love? I would still like the option to steer them away from each other through dialogue, but not in a mean way.
I would like for that to happen as well, not just to sway the others the way I want, but to feel more engaged with the friends Shepard has. I think it would be a nice touch for x to ask Shepard what they think because I'm sure she'd want to hear what their opinion is if they are friends. And if that's the case, I might allow it if she asks reeaaallll nicely :I
I would definitely prefer this to randomly finding them embracing each other around the corner...that would be really awkward for my Shepard. Hopefully, they give us the option to take to X or Garrus about it so our Shepards can at least give their opinion. I would think X and Garrus would want to know what Shepard thought. But then again others will say Shepard should have no say at all...
Billabong2011 wrote...
While I totally agree with you all, and can understand how many fans would think Shepard should have no say, why shouldn't Shepard have a say in this pairing when (s)he has a say in another, HUGE pairing.....?? -__- This community confuses me sometimes, it really does.
[[By the way that's not directed at anyone in here, I'm talking about a certain...VERY vocal other fandom...heh]]
I guess my point is that if they're going to shun the idea of her swaying Garrus and/or X away from one another, then they should also shun the other pairing as well. No more double standards, dammit!
Sorael.A wrote...
e_e maybe I'm speaking far too quickly/soon but I'm not liking this...Garrus hooking up with another person if not romanced bit. I mean, the only time I haven't romanced him is if my Shepard is with Thane but still. This feels like the first time I didn't romance Fenris and heard that he and Isabela were shacking it up.
Might need to do a renegade interrupt if I hear said banter about that relationship. Might seem weird to whomever for my shep just to spontaneous punch them for a relationship she's not even in. Jealous Shepard is jealous.
SuranaMage wrote...
Billabong2011 wrote...
While I totally agree with you all, and can understand how many fans would think Shepard should have no say, why shouldn't Shepard have a say in this pairing when (s)he has a say in another, HUGE pairing.....?? -__- This community confuses me sometimes, it really does.
[[By the way that's not directed at anyone in here, I'm talking about a certain...VERY vocal other fandom...heh]]
I guess my point is that if they're going to shun the idea of her swaying Garrus and/or X away from one another, then they should also shun the other pairing as well. No more double standards, dammit!
I agree with you. It doesn't seem fair that another pairing can be stopped by Shepard when another can't, especially when I see no indicators of other non-Shepard romances so far. But perhaps they're thinking you have more reason (?) to stop the other pairing from happening due to possible issues that may arise. However, I don't see why Garrus and X should be exempt from issues. Certainly a few have already been discussed here.
I guess we just wait and see what happens in March
AlphaDormante wrote...
SuranaMage wrote...
Billabong2011 wrote...
While I totally agree with you all, and can understand how many fans would think Shepard should have no say, why shouldn't Shepard have a say in this pairing when (s)he has a say in another, HUGE pairing.....?? -__- This community confuses me sometimes, it really does.
[[By the way that's not directed at anyone in here, I'm talking about a certain...VERY vocal other fandom...heh]]
I guess my point is that if they're going to shun the idea of her swaying Garrus and/or X away from one another, then they should also shun the other pairing as well. No more double standards, dammit!
I agree with you. It doesn't seem fair that another pairing can be stopped by Shepard when another can't, especially when I see no indicators of other non-Shepard romances so far. But perhaps they're thinking you have more reason (?) to stop the other pairing from happening due to possible issues that may arise. However, I don't see why Garrus and X should be exempt from issues. Certainly a few have already been discussed here.
I guess we just wait and see what happens in March
Well, in the particular system I'm suggesting, the dialogue options wouldn't be discouraging the romance -- it would either be encouraging it, or the idea of romance never coming up at all. For example, Garrus might throw outsomething like this in any random conversation:
"Guess it'd just be nice to have something to come back to, though."
At which point the player could choose between options like:
"What about [x]? You two have some history."
"Hey, there's always your calibrations."
Or something of that nature. The first option would obviously be a romance flag, and the second would not. I think it'd be kind of silly to have Shepard be flat-out discouraging squadmates from their romances, but for LIs in particular, an extra degree of control that manages to come off as regular, friendly conversation would be appreciated, at least on my end.
AlphaDormante wrote...
Well, in the particular system I'm suggesting, the dialogue options wouldn't be discouraging the romance -- it would either be encouraging it, or the idea of romance never coming up at all. For example, Garrus might throw outsomething like this in any random conversation:
"Guess it'd just be nice to have something to come back to, though."
At which point the player could choose between options like:
"What about [x]? You two have some history."
"Hey, there's always your calibrations."
Modifié par TNT1991, 07 février 2012 - 10:39 .
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Modifié par Mims, 07 février 2012 - 01:42 .
I totally agree with you. The problem I have is that why are you able to nullify one of the other (much more prominent) side romances and not this one (that we know of)? Either the first shouldn't be in Shepard's hands or this one should. It's like some of the more asinine rules in football - I may not agree with them, but I don't get angry if the referees at least judge all teams by the same standard.Mims wrote...
I don't know, I don't like the idea of Shepard just being able to bully their way into other peoples lives. Like I understand not liking Garrus/X because it seems odd, but if its out of some sort of jealousy... just, what? Number one, they aren't real, and number two, it won't ever exist in a playthrough where you romance one of them. Its like saying someone can only ever be happy with the great Player Character.
And while a femturian might have been classier, unless they did a lot of ground work, it'd essentially be a character created solely for the purpose of Oh Look a Love Interest. And might even give some people the impression that Femshep is keeping Garrus from a normal, proper relationship.
From the script, there is a very convincing reason to me that could bring them together. It even harkens back to an ME1 conversation they had. And if anything, the romance validates the fact that he cares more about personality and friendship than looks.
Edit: And for people worrying about it being considered the 'canon' pairing... I remind you there are people who think Femshep is a waste of resources. A large majority of people will never even validate Femshep as a viable character, so I don't know why you'd worry about a sidepairing. There will always be people who see a canon differently. Shrug it off. It isn't like Femshep/Garrus is unpopular.
Modifié par Mims, 07 février 2012 - 02:25 .
Modifié par LilyasAvalon, 07 février 2012 - 02:43 .
"Hey, free chocolate guys!" <-- I could immediately hear Garrus saying that in my head, oblivious as hell. Part of the characters charm, really, how he doesn't clue into advances easily. Though he's a sharp guy in all other respects... hmm... I wonder if Turian females exude some kind of pheromone or the like to indicate attraction.
shygravel wrote...
Speaking of female turians, I take it there's no indication we'll get to meet Garrus' sister, eh? :/ I hope his family situation is at least something that can be convo'd. I looooooved the SB dossier on Garrus (and all the other characters, really), especially the convo and medical stuff regarding his mum, but felt cheated that it wasn't remotely touched upon in any of the (saddly sparse) Garrus/Shep convo's, romance or not.
Modifié par outmane, 07 février 2012 - 03:12 .
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