19887 réponses à ce sujet

[LilyasAvalon]

Can't change colour to an unseeable one without the code since I am on a mobile device right now, so post has been deleted since someone already quoted it.

Modifié par LilyasAvalon, 07 février 2012 - 03:20 .

[outmane]

@ Lilya
Since thats a brand new spoiler could you just change the font color ?

[roflchoppaz]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

He receives a call from is father about the forces still on Palaven, which include Garrus' Father and his sister, but that's all I've been able to find in regards to his family.

Aw man. I hope they'll be okay. Or at least a Kirrahe kind of scerario, I don't know. :x

Modifié par roflchoppaz, 07 février 2012 - 03:17 .

[LilyasAvalon]

Yeah, I got real worried when I found that. But there's nothing on his mother as far as I can find, which disappoints me.

[LilyasAvalon]

Collider wrote...

Doctor Michelle:

With chocolates and endless calls and emails while he's off grid pre-ME2?

Modifié par LilyasAvalon, 07 février 2012 - 03:23 .

[Damate]

outmane wrote...

shygravel wrote...

"Hey, free chocolate guys!" <-- I could immediately hear Garrus saying that in my head, oblivious as hell. Part of the characters charm, really, how he doesn't clue into advances easily. Though he's a sharp guy in all other respects... hmm... I wonder if Turian females exude some kind of pheromone or the like to indicate attraction.

*snip*

Great question there. It would tie in the headcanon many people have that Garrus is a lady's man with how clueless he can be with FemShep. Plus I kinda like when ME's alien species have some diffrences with humans (I know many people dont like the dextro thing but I give it a pass).

*snip*

Garrus as a lady's man kinda cracks me up. With other Turians? Possibly, sure. Given his interactions with Shep: Not so much. (which I am perfectly fine with) So far as aliens being different from humans: Hell yes! I like that ME is successful in underlining universal aspects between species - elements we can all relate to - but if all the different species were largely alike except for superficial cosmetic details it would be pretty dull.

That said, even if the difference isn't something as blatant as 'exuding pheromones' (eau du femme turian? Man, it'd be awesome if Black Pheonic Alchemy Lab would produce an ME line ) I'm sure there are other social clues that would differ between species, consciously and subconsciously.

@LilyasAvalon - thanks for the heads up! Definitely looking forward to how that all plays out in the game -- hopefully without reducing me to tears, which I already anticipate. I've yet to play a Bioware game that didn't make me cry at some point or another.

[Twilight_Princess]

Billabong2011 wrote...

I totally agree with you. The problem I have is that why are you able to nullify one of the other (much more prominent) side romances and not this one (that we know of)? Either the first shouldn't be in Shepard's hands or this one should. It's like some of the more asinine rules in football - I may not agree with them, but I don't get angry if the referees at least judge all teams by the same standard.

If this is the case, than being able to do the same with x/garrus would make me feel better about it. That way it takes away the "canon" nature of it if that makes any sense. Whether you encourage it or not is down to a choice made by shepard so that the characters don't just hook up by themselves just because you didn't romance one of them. It also would be appreciated by players like me who will be squicked by it but don't want to nuke or not recruit the other character in question to avoid it LOL

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 07 février 2012 - 04:31 .

[robyn278]

Mims wrote...

And if anything, the romance validates the fact that he cares more about personality and friendship than looks.

Although I still personally don't like X with Garrus (because, as I've said before, I see them more as siblings), I couldn't agree with this point more.

Modifié par robyn278, 07 février 2012 - 06:17 .

[DarthEmpress]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Billabong2011 wrote...

I totally agree with you. The problem I have is that why are you able to nullify one of the other (much more prominent) side romances and not this one (that we know of)? Either the first shouldn't be in Shepard's hands or this one should. It's like some of the more asinine rules in football - I may not agree with them, but I don't get angry if the referees at least judge all teams by the same standard.

If this is the case, than being able to do the same with x/garrus would make me feel better about it. That way it takes away the "canon" nature of it if that makes any sense. Whether you encourage it or not is down to a choice made by shepard so that the characters don't just hook up by themselves just because you didn't romance one of them. It also would be appreciated by players like me who will be squicked by it but don't want to nuke or not recruit the other character in question to avoid it LOL

I think that would be a good option because you wouldn't be discouraging the relationship, just encouraging, which would really be nice from a friendship standpoint.  I just don't think that romance is one of the things Garrus has at the forefront of his mind...it just seems weird to me that it would happen with X or, well, with anyone during ME3 unless the other person said or did something.  I guess that's what we'll find out :3

I just don't know why Garrus, Joker, SPOILER, and X are the only ones to get some action besides Shepard while the human LI's and Liara don't get anything.  In fact I think there's even (possible spoilers but it has never been really verified yet) a second chance to romance them.  From what I understand, if you don't romance Garrus in ME2 then you can't romance him in ME3.  If there was an option to do so along with X then I would be more for this non-Shepard pairing because that would at least give players who haven't done ME2 to romance them.

[outmane]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Billabong2011 wrote...

I totally agree with you. The problem I have is that why are you able to nullify one of the other (much more prominent) side romances and not this one (that we know of)? Either the first shouldn't be in Shepard's hands or this one should. It's like some of the more asinine rules in football - I may not agree with them, but I don't get angry if the referees at least judge all teams by the same standard.

If this is the case, than being able to do the same with x/garrus would make me feel better about it. That way it takes away the "canon" nature of it if that makes any sense. Whether you encourage it or not is down to a choice made by shepard so that the characters don't just hook up by themselves just because you didn't romance one of them. It also would be appreciated by players like me who will be squicked by it but don't want to nuke or not recruit the other character in question to avoid it LOL

I can se how expressing yor Shep opinion would be nice but making it up to her/him to decide if they hook up would be like a big step back in Garrus developing his maturity and making choices on his own.

Modifié par outmane, 07 février 2012 - 07:42 .

[DarthEmpress]

outmane wrote...

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Billabong2011 wrote...

I totally agree with you. The problem I have is that why are you able to nullify one of the other (much more prominent) side romances and not this one (that we know of)? Either the first shouldn't be in Shepard's hands or this one should. It's like some of the more asinine rules in football - I may not agree with them, but I don't get angry if the referees at least judge all teams by the same standard.

If this is the case, than being able to do the same with x/garrus would make me feel better about it. That way it takes away the "canon" nature of it if that makes any sense. Whether you encourage it or not is down to a choice made by shepard so that the characters don't just hook up by themselves just because you didn't romance one of them. It also would be appreciated by players like me who will be squicked by it but don't want to nuke or not recruit the other character in question to avoid it LOL

I can se how expressing yor Shep opinion would be nice but making it up to her/him to decide if they hook up would be like a big step back in Garrus developing his maturity and making choices on his own.

That's what I was thinking.  I don't believe Bioware would give Shepard the option to do that, although I would personally prefer it be an option.  However, I still don't get why they're allowing it to be done with Joker and SPOILER but not with anyone else...

[outmane]

SuranaMage wrote...

outmane wrote...

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Billabong2011 wrote...

I totally agree with you. The problem I have is that why are you able to nullify one of the other (much more prominent) side romances and not this one (that we know of)? Either the first shouldn't be in Shepard's hands or this one should. It's like some of the more asinine rules in football - I may not agree with them, but I don't get angry if the referees at least judge all teams by the same standard.

If this is the case, than being able to do the same with x/garrus would make me feel better about it. That way it takes away the "canon" nature of it if that makes any sense. Whether you encourage it or not is down to a choice made by shepard so that the characters don't just hook up by themselves just because you didn't romance one of them. It also would be appreciated by players like me who will be squicked by it but don't want to nuke or not recruit the other character in question to avoid it LOL

I can se how expressing yor Shep opinion would be nice but making it up to her/him to decide if they hook up would be like a big step back in Garrus developing his maturity and making choices on his own.

That's what I was thinking.  I don't believe Bioware would give Shepard the option to do that, although I would personally prefer it be an option.  However, I still don't get why they're allowing it to be done with Joker and SPOILER but not with anyone else...

My guess would be that they felt asking the player to state tho opion of their Shepard about Joker and spoilerlady would resonate with the direction taken by ME3 plot as a whole and could serve to influence the last desisoin concerning reapers and what not... where as they thought Garrus and X could handle themselves by now or that the pairing is more like a side project.

Just my guess 

[Sorael.A]

SuranaMage wrote...

outmane wrote...

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Billabong2011 wrote...

I totally agree with you. The problem I have is that why are you able to nullify one of the other (much more prominent) side romances and not this one (that we know of)? Either the first shouldn't be in Shepard's hands or this one should. It's like some of the more asinine rules in football - I may not agree with them, but I don't get angry if the referees at least judge all teams by the same standard.

If this is the case, than being able to do the same with x/garrus would make me feel better about it. That way it takes away the "canon" nature of it if that makes any sense. Whether you encourage it or not is down to a choice made by shepard so that the characters don't just hook up by themselves just because you didn't romance one of them. It also would be appreciated by players like me who will be squicked by it but don't want to nuke or not recruit the other character in question to avoid it LOL

I can se how expressing yor Shep opinion would be nice but making it up to her/him to decide if they hook up would be like a big step back in Garrus developing his maturity and making choices on his own.

That's what I was thinking.  I don't believe Bioware would give Shepard the option to do that, although I would personally prefer it be an option.  However, I still don't get why they're allowing it to be done with Joker and SPOILER but not with anyone else...

Shepard would break him? I don't know, I don't mind the relationship with SPOILER but it's a lot less viable than Shepard ending up with him because of Vrolik's syndrome.

[Hekate]

Hmm, so, anyone here now know what vid that ME3 Garrus getting up gif is from? I can't find which one.

[DarthEmpress]

outmane wrote...

SuranaMage wrote...

outmane wrote...

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Billabong2011 wrote...

I totally agree with you. The problem I have is that why are you able to nullify one of the other (much more prominent) side romances and not this one (that we know of)? Either the first shouldn't be in Shepard's hands or this one should. It's like some of the more asinine rules in football - I may not agree with them, but I don't get angry if the referees at least judge all teams by the same standard.

If this is the case, than being able to do the same with x/garrus would make me feel better about it. That way it takes away the "canon" nature of it if that makes any sense. Whether you encourage it or not is down to a choice made by shepard so that the characters don't just hook up by themselves just because you didn't romance one of them. It also would be appreciated by players like me who will be squicked by it but don't want to nuke or not recruit the other character in question to avoid it LOL

I can se how expressing yor Shep opinion would be nice but making it up to her/him to decide if they hook up would be like a big step back in Garrus developing his maturity and making choices on his own.

That's what I was thinking.  I don't believe Bioware would give Shepard the option to do that, although I would personally prefer it be an option.  However, I still don't get why they're allowing it to be done with Joker and SPOILER but not with anyone else...

My guess would be that they felt asking the player to state tho opion of their Shepard about Joker and spoilerlady would resonate with the direction taken by ME3 plot as a whole and could serve to influence the last desisoin concerning reapers and what not... where as they thought Garrus and X could handle themselves by now or that the pairing is more like a side project.

Just my guess 

You're probably right.  Garrus and X seems more like an Isabela/Fenris thing so that's why Shepard most likely won't be able to say anything against it.  Regardless, I still find it odd that they aren't putting more non-Shepard pairings in the game.  I think if Garrus and X get together then why not the other characters <3

[outmane]

SuranaMage wrote...

outmane wrote...

SuranaMage wrote...

outmane wrote...

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Billabong2011 wrote...

I totally agree with you. The problem I have is that why are you able to nullify one of the other (much more prominent) side romances and not this one (that we know of)? Either the first shouldn't be in Shepard's hands or this one should. It's like some of the more asinine rules in football - I may not agree with them, but I don't get angry if the referees at least judge all teams by the same standard.

If this is the case, than being able to do the same with x/garrus would make me feel better about it. That way it takes away the "canon" nature of it if that makes any sense. Whether you encourage it or not is down to a choice made by shepard so that the characters don't just hook up by themselves just because you didn't romance one of them. It also would be appreciated by players like me who will be squicked by it but don't want to nuke or not recruit the other character in question to avoid it LOL

I can se how expressing yor Shep opinion would be nice but making it up to her/him to decide if they hook up would be like a big step back in Garrus developing his maturity and making choices on his own.

That's what I was thinking.  I don't believe Bioware would give Shepard the option to do that, although I would personally prefer it be an option.  However, I still don't get why they're allowing it to be done with Joker and SPOILER but not with anyone else...

My guess would be that they felt asking the player to state tho opion of their Shepard about Joker and spoilerlady would resonate with the direction taken by ME3 plot as a whole and could serve to influence the last desisoin concerning reapers and what not... where as they thought Garrus and X could handle themselves by now or that the pairing is more like a side project.

Just my guess 

You're probably right.  Garrus and X seems more like an Isabela/Fenris thing so that's why Shepard most likely won't be able to say anything against it.  Regardless, I still find it odd that they aren't putting more non-Shepard pairings in the game.  I think if Garrus and X get together then why not the other characters <3

Thats acutally a good way to look at it. If there wer other pairings then Garrs and X wouldnt strike people as being more canon. the VS specially has lots of grounds to have been with other people before Shep is revived or after Horizon. Not that the game should turn into one big romantic comedy but it could be mentionned when you get news from your old squaddies.

[Twilight_Princess]

outmane wrote...

SuranaMage wrote...

You're probably right.  Garrus and X seems more like an Isabela/Fenris thing so that's why Shepard most likely won't be able to say anything against it.  Regardless, I still find it odd that they aren't putting more non-Shepard pairings in the game.  I think if Garrus and X get together then why not the other characters <3

Thats acutally a good way to look at it. If there wer other pairings then Garrs and X wouldnt strike people as being more canon. the VS specially has lots of grounds to have been with other people before Shep is revived or after Horizon. Not that the game should turn into one big romantic comedy but it could be mentionned when you get news from your old squaddies.

That's the other thing , why just them? Because they're popular?  It would make more sense to pair off less popular characters like kasumi and jacob because no one would really care who jacob hooks up with and it would cause less upset.  And at least with Jacob and kasumi it wouldn’t look so FORCED since there was SOMETHING to work with from ME2 . Garrus and x?  Feels like a fan snuck in and altered the script. As someone said before , when it comes to LI subplots the player doesn’t want to feel like second best.  
Personally I feel differently about the fenris thing now after I found out he can have a happy  relationship with Isabella.  Whether it was just sex or not doesn’t matter, fenris being content in a (what is implied) a 3 year ongoing relationship without issues really was a big ol slap in the face.
I just don’t want to feel that way about garrus/femshep since its my favourite romance.

[AgentMulder5]

1.) Come home.
2.) Realize I haven't been on the Bio Forums in a while.
3.) Make Coffee
4.) Log in.
5.) Go to Teh Garrus page.
6.) Read.
7.) Spew Coffee over laptop
8.) Check calander, preorder status, and double check my checking account.
9.) Wish G-Chat still existed.

Another day, another soaked laptop and coffee stained pair of jeans...

[MissMaster]

What what is this I keep hearing about chocolates?

[robyn278]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

That's the other thing , why just them? Because they're popular?  It would make more sense to pair off less popular characters like kasumi and jacob because no one would really care who jacob hooks up with and it would cause less upset.  And at least with Jacob and kasumi it wouldn’t look so FORCED since there was SOMETHING to work with from ME2 . Garrus and x?  Feels like a fan snuck in and altered the script. As someone said before , when it comes to LI subplots the player doesn’t want to feel like second best.  
Personally I feel differently about the fenris thing now after I found out he can have a happy  relationship with Isabella.  Whether it was just sex or not doesn’t matter, fenris being content in a (what is implied) a 3 year ongoing relationship without issues really was a big ol slap in the face.
I just don’t want to feel that way about garrus/femshep since its my favourite romance.

From what I've read in the leaked script the whole Garrus and X things seems very under-developed and tbh a bit pointless and out of the blue. It really isn't anything like what Garrus can end up having with Shepard. The dialogue he has with her is just so much better - funnier, deeper, etc. Granted, there may be some content missing from the leaked script involving Garrus and X but, still, to me it just seems like a small side-plot about two friends being drawn to each other in a time of extreme crisis, not some major, special romance.

Overall, I still don't like it, but I genuinely don't think it takes away from the Garrus/Shep romance in any way.

[The Sarendoctrinator]

AlphaDormante wrote...

Well, in the particular system I'm suggesting, the dialogue options wouldn't be discouraging the romance -- it would either be encouraging it, or the idea of romance never coming up at all. For example, Garrus might throw outsomething like this in any random conversation:

"Guess it'd just be nice to have something to come back to, though."

At which point the player could choose between options like:

"What about [x]? You two have some history."
"Hey, there's always your calibrations."

Or something of that nature. The first option would obviously be a romance flag, and the second would not. I think it'd be kind of silly to have Shepard be flat-out discouraging squadmates from their romances, but for LIs in particular, an extra degree of control that manages to come off as regular, friendly conversation would be appreciated, at least on my end.

This is brilliant. I think that a system like this one, where romances between squadmates only happen if Shepard encourages it, or else the subject would never come up at all, would be perfect. Actually, just take those exact words and put them into ME3. The "calibrations" choice really fits the way that Garrus and Shep joke around with each other.

Mims wrote...

Like I understand not liking Garrus/X because it seems odd, but if its out of some sort of jealousy... just, what? Number one, they aren't real, and number two, it won't ever exist in a playthrough where you romance one of them. Its like saying someone can only ever be happy with the great Player Character.

In my case, it comes from imagining that many of my Shepards, across multiple playthroughs, all know each other and are on this mission together. So of course, not all of them are going to romance Garrus or X. It would feel like they're cheating on my other Shepards. It makes me think that something like this should happen...

Carson Shepard: W-What are you doing?! Garrus, what the hell, man? You're with Kiara! And now you're cheating on her with one of her best friends? *turns to X* And you. Do you have any idea how many asari Joseph had to beat off of him to stay single for you?

As I've said before, maybe it will help make some playthroughs feel "separate" enough that it won't be weird for me to romance Garrus and X more than once (because I would like to). But as it is now? What Carson would say is what I'll be thinking.

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

... no one would really care who jacob hooks up with and it would cause less upset.

I'm not saying anything here, 'cause it's a spoiler and I don't know how to do that invisible text thing.

Also, Joker and SPOILER can be prevented for sure? That's good to hear. I'm sure it'll make a lot of fans happy.

[Sorael.A]

I keep trying to reason in my head how they would work out but it's not quite happening. Garrus and X just seems like fanfiction subplot to me but that's not my place to say.
The script only tells us and outline of what happens, but not all of it, and it still lacks the depth present when the VA's do the lines. I'm just hoping that when I hear/see the romance, it will make more sense then. That's what I'm hoping for atleast.
Joker and Spoiler I saw coming, just because they bounced off of each other a lot but I did not see the same with Garrus and X.

I'm not saying anything here, 'cause it's a spoiler and I don't know how to do that invisible text thing.

Are you hinting about what happens when he's with Shepard or not with her?

Modifié par Sorael.A, 07 février 2012 - 11:17 .

[TNT1991]

Here's the way I see it.
1) If the script was old about Garrus' and x relationship, then there might be a good chance that the devs took it out.
2) If not, then it might just be a fling.
3) the game hasn't come out yet, so hardly anyone knows how it's going to be handle: either out of the blue or the player DOES have a choice to push the relationship further. Or we'll never notice at all. 

Either way, the news is failing to stop me from being excited about the game. Because in the end, my Shepard will be with Garrus and Ta...I mean "x", will still be on my squad. In fact, I'm more worried about Dr. Michel (since the "love-derp" e-mail notes to Garrus are getting rather annoying).

As much as I can't stand Liara, though, I'm hoping for a Liara x Feron relationship. Likewise, with Kasumi and Jacob. 

Modifié par TNT1991, 07 février 2012 - 11:50 .

[The Sarendoctrinator]

Oh, I'm still really excited for ME3 as well. I won't even see that romance for a while, if it ends up in the game. My first two playthroughs will be will Shepards romancing Garrus and X. Even if there are a few things I don't like about the game, the good is so overwhelming that I just know I'll love it. It's like ME1 - the ninjamance didn't ruin the whole thing for me, and that's way more annoying than a random squadmate x squadmate romance that I won't even have to deal with until several months after release date.

Sorael.A wrote...

Are you hinting about what happens when he's with Shepard or not with her?

Actually, I can't tell if it happens in both cases or only if Shepard isn't in a romance with him. Unless the leaked script was incomplete, I would guess both.

[DarthEmpress]

MissMaster wrote...

What what is this I keep hearing about chocolates?

SPOILERS DOWN BELOW!!






In the leaks Dr. Michel gives Garrus some chocolates and he offers some to Tali if she joins the party.  Tali asks why she gave them to him and he acts all oblivious saying, "She saw it and thought of me.  Why?" then Tali can say to a Shepard romancing Garrus, "Be careful, Shepard" <3