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[outmane]

shygravel wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Sometimes I wish Bioware had a spoiler tab, it'd be so much easier than trying to figure out how to do the invisible text thingy. Anyway, in regards to new ME3 squadies, the only one I can find ANYTHING about in relation to Garrus is Vega. They seem to have this sort of bromance going along.

Has anyone been able to find anything about this supposed LI confrontation that's supposed to happen? I romanced Kaidan in ME1 and Garrus in ME2 and am trying to figure out what I've gotten myself into.

I kind of worried about the 'love triangle' deal when I first heard about it, too. I have not read much at all of that leaked script, so I have no information from that source if any exists. Judging from past Bioware games? I'd say it really shouldn't be much more than one of the characters - probably whichever was romanced in ME1 - asking if it's true about 'so and so ' (ME2 romance), putting Shep on the spot and there you go. Pick 'Yes and it's still true' 'Nooooo.. of coooourse not?' or 'Yes, but I want you back', etc etc.

I hope it's not more than that, anyway. I'm very much opposed, personally, to the idea that Shep 'cheats' on the VS (it doesn't feel like cheating to me *shrug*) and hope there's not heavy handed repricussions. I can dig an uncomfortable conversation and perhaps the VS being less loyal to Shep if that's the case (they may percieve it as 'cheating' and all the power to them if it's an 'IC' thing) but hopefully not more than that.

My two cents and, like I said, I've not read much of the leaks so it's nothing more than hypothesis on my part.

I would be very surprised if something more then dialogue happens out of this. First they certainly not gonna stop you from saving the universe. And second they cant put a very heavy game mechanism around it because ME3 is also meant to be played by first-time players. Knowing Bioware and their proclaimed love of emotional consequences, you know the VS will be sad. Kaidan would probably say something thoughtful and Ash wll try to hide.

But all in all the ME1 bunch is a pretty down to earth one. Where the sparks may fly is if you go back to your ME1 LI after romancing someone in ME2: Miranda, Jack, even Jacob would certainly be pissed. And Garrus would be heartbroken. I might eventually look it up on Youtube but I think this eventuallity is even worst then turning him away before the SM.

[Damate]

outmane wrote...

I would be very surprised if something more then dialogue happens out of this. First they certainly not gonna stop you from saving the universe. And second they cant put a very heavy game mechanism around it because ME3 is also meant to be played by first-time players. Knowing Bioware and their proclaimed love of emotional consequences, you know the VS will be sad. Kaidan would probably say something thoughtful and Ash wll try to hide.

But all in all the ME1 bunch is a pretty down to earth one. Where the sparks may fly is if you go back to your ME1 LI after romancing someone in ME2: Miranda, Jack, even Jacob would certainly be pissed. And Garrus would be heartbroken. I might eventually look it up on Youtube but I think this eventuallity is even worst then turning him away before the SM.

Yep, agreed. You phrased it more succinctly than I, but that's right along the lines of how I forsee it playing out. I don't look forward to getting the kicked-puppy look from Kaidan, but short of some cataclysmic alteration in Garrus' character, I forsee sadness on Kaidan's part.

With the exception of Jack, I think all the LI's are pretty down to earth. I've never romanced Liara, but short of a bit of snark even she seems to 'move on' from the idea of Shep hooking up with an ME2 LI.

And maybe it's strange, but I personally would be perfectly content if Kaidan was the one no longer interested in a romance. I don't see that happening - not if they are leaving it open to go back to a ME1 romance or start afresh for first time players - but it'd be a nice dose of realism. 3yrs or so is a long time after all. Then my Shep could be all 'Dude, awesome! I'll be your 'best man' *fist bump and relief*"

[LilyasAvalon]

Can't stand a heartbroken Garrus. D: *Kicks Kaidan out the nearest airlock*

I've heard RUMORS that Tali and Ashley are apparently very civil with each other, but if you romanced someone like Miranda, it gets pretty catty. However, I've never actually SEEN the dialogue itself, so these are just rumors, not spoilers.

That's quite a shame, I was kinda hoping to walk in on Kaidan and Garrus having a moment like Jack and Miranda did after you both gained their loyalty. I'm an odd duckie.

Modifié par LilyasAvalon, 08 février 2012 - 04:05 .

[outmane]

It would definitly be good to see Kaidan be over Shepard instead of all butthurt. That would be a nice sign of maturity on his part. Its been so long between Shep and the VS and Horizon jsut tore them apart more then ever. Kaidan still holding a flame for Shepard is a bit... i dunno sad?

That said I do have a Kaidan faithful Shepard so im all for them being able to mend their relationship, but I dont want him to feel like a poor thing.

[Damate]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Can't stand a heartbroken Garrus. D: *Kicks Kaidan out the nearest airlock*

I've heard RUMORS that Tali and Ashley are apparently very civil with each other, but if you romanced someone like Miranda, it gets pretty catty. However, I've never actually SEEN the dialogue itself, so these are just rumors, not spoilers.

That's quite a shame, I was kinda hoping to walk in on Kaidan and Garrus having a moment like Jack and Miranda did after you both gained their loyalty. I'm an odd duckie.

Nah, there's definitely a part of me that's down for enough 'drama' to enjoy a scene like that? But it's a much smaller part... I just can't see either Kaidan or Garrus reacting that way. And I definitely can't see my paragade Shep taking kindly to it. But is there a part of me who'd briefly enjoy it? Yeah, sure.

outmane wrote...

It would definitly be good to see Kaidan
be over Shepard instead of all butthurt. That would be a nice sign of
maturity on his part. Its been so long between Shep and the VS and
Horizon jsut tore them apart more then ever. Kaidan still holding a
flame for Shepard is a bit... i dunno sad?

That said I do have a
Kaidan faithful Shepard so im all for them being able to mend their
relationship, but I dont want him to feel like a poor thing.

If it hadn't been for Horizon then, sure, the waiting 3-or-so years for each other makes more sense. After Horizon? Not so much for me, no. I still like Kaidan's character, though, and would be totally down for him finding his own happiness.

I have a Kaidan-only playthrough as well, so I'll enjoy how that plays out after my main run... with Garrus. All the way. :innocent:

[LilyasAvalon]

Flame and love are different things altogether. Love is always there, the type of love is just in question, even Kaidan admitted after two years that he still loved Shepard, what's another year?

...I think V day is beginning to effect me.

That being said, I know Garrus and Kaidan wouldn't have an all out catfight like say, Miranda and Ash (If the rumors are true), maybe have a few 'words', I guess.

...I still want to see a male cat fight though.

Modifié par LilyasAvalon, 08 février 2012 - 04:19 .

[Damate]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Flame and love are different things altogether. Love is always there, the type of love is just in question, even Kaidan admitted after two years that he still loved Shepard, what's another year?

...I think V day is beginning to effect me.

That being said, I know Garrus and Kaidan wouldn't have an all out catfight like say, Miranda and Ash (If the rumors are true), maybe have a few 'words', I guess.

...I still want to see a male cat fight though.

Maybe it's a difference in headcanon for me. In my main playthrough my Shep ultimately didn't feel the same connection to Kaidan after Horizon. And perhaps didn't even feel as strongly in ME1 as he did. So for that Shep, I'd be happy if Kaidan moved on as well, thus leaving all parties satisfied. Huzzah!

For my Shep/Kaidan playthrough then, yes, sure, it can play out more like one of those sweet love stories where time doesn't matter to both parties. Huzzah!

I will say this: I might not thoroughly want a 'tomcat fight' but it -would- be nice if banter between both LI's reflected choices made. Which does rather happen in DA2, so I wouldn't be surprised if it surfaces in ME3.

Modifié par shygravel, 08 février 2012 - 04:32 .

[TNT1991]

I'm curious, if Dr. Michell gives Garrus chocolate (a human food), would Garrus actually try to eat it [even offering some to Tali (which they both have the same DNA)]? I thought aliens with dextro DNA can't eat normal human food, or they might get (in the least) sick, right?  Doesn't Dr. Michell know that? 

If true, she's either that stupid or trying to poison Garrus. That might raise a few red flags with my Shepard.

Modifié par TNT1991, 08 février 2012 - 05:39 .

[Mims]

Its actually "dextro" chocolate, made for turians to eat. [Hence why he brings it to Tali to share, since no one else but him and her can eat it.]

Although I don't claim to understand how that works exactly.

Modifié par Mims, 08 février 2012 - 05:50 .

[Sealy]

I have a loyal Garrus playthrough, cause I heard a rumour from the rumour tree that it has special-ness. I wonder what will happen if you rekindle your Liara romance in the DLC and then romance Garrus as well. Thats would be sucky, I'll be looking on youtube for that.

[robyn278]

Fleshdress wrote...

I have a loyal Garrus playthrough, cause I heard a rumour from the rumour tree that it has special-ness. I wonder what will happen if you rekindle your Liara romance in the DLC and then romance Garrus as well. Thats would be sucky, I'll be looking on youtube for that.

Oooh really? That sounds interesting! What sort of special-ness?

[LilyasAvalon]

She gets pretty snarky on Illium about it if it isnt carefully manoeuvred around, definitely wanna see her reaction in ME3.

[Sealy]

Not a clue. Thats literally the rumour I heard, that playing a loyal Garrus romance will have a special. So I figured play a loyal Garrus and a "cheating" Garrus romance and see if there are differences.

Modifié par Fleshdress, 08 février 2012 - 06:36 .

[outmane]

what do you mean by 'cheating' Garrus roamnce ? that you cheated on your ME1 partner or cheated on Garrus ?

[robyn278]

Fleshdress wrote...

Not a clue. Thats literally the rumour I heard, that playing a loyal Garrus romance will have a special. So I figured play a loyal Garrus and a "cheating" Garrus romance and see if there are differences.

Ah right, thanks for answering.

I have a few Garrus-loyal playthroughs so I guess I'll find out firsthand if there's anything 'special' when the game comes out anyway.

[MissMaster]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Can't stand a heartbroken Garrus. D: *Kicks Kaidan out the nearest airlock*

I've heard RUMORS that Tali and Ashley are apparently very civil with each other, but if you romanced someone like Miranda, it gets pretty catty. However, I've never actually SEEN the dialogue itself, so these are just rumors, not spoilers.

That's quite a shame, I was kinda hoping to walk in on Kaidan and Garrus having a moment like Jack and Miranda did after you both gained their loyalty. I'm an odd duckie.

I really want some drama, I want them to fight. In my head canon Garrus hates Kaidan lol. But that's just me.

[outmane]

MissMaster wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Can't stand a heartbroken Garrus. D: *Kicks Kaidan out the nearest airlock*

I've heard RUMORS that Tali and Ashley are apparently very civil with each other, but if you romanced someone like Miranda, it gets pretty catty. However, I've never actually SEEN the dialogue itself, so these are just rumors, not spoilers.

That's quite a shame, I was kinda hoping to walk in on Kaidan and Garrus having a moment like Jack and Miranda did after you both gained their loyalty. I'm an odd duckie.

I really want some drama, I want them to fight. In my head canon Garrus hates Kaidan lol. But that's just me.

Im my head they got together very well in ME1. Now ME2 is an entire diffrent business. Depending what Kaidan did during his time alone with the Alliance, I can see Garrus behing more or less happy with him.

On the romance side tho, i drather see some snark then some fighting. And we all know who would win a snark fest between Kaikai and Garrus 

[darthnick427]

MissMaster wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Can't stand a heartbroken Garrus. D: *Kicks Kaidan out the nearest airlock*

I've heard RUMORS that Tali and Ashley are apparently very civil with each other, but if you romanced someone like Miranda, it gets pretty catty. However, I've never actually SEEN the dialogue itself, so these are just rumors, not spoilers.

That's quite a shame, I was kinda hoping to walk in on Kaidan and Garrus having a moment like Jack and Miranda did after you both gained their loyalty. I'm an odd duckie.

I really want some drama, I want them to fight. In my head canon Garrus hates Kaidan lol. But that's just me.

Lol in my head canon Garrus is pissed at the VS in general for even considering the fact that Shepard was being manipulated or working for the enemy. Garrus understands Shepard did only what was needed. He finds the VS ignorant and pathetic for being so blind. He doesn't hate them, but he lost A LOT of respect in them on Horizon.

Modifié par darthnick427, 08 février 2012 - 08:41 .

[Damate]

outmane wrote...

MissMaster wrote...

I really want some drama, I want them to fight. In my head canon Garrus hates Kaidan lol. But that's just me.

Im my head they got together very well in ME1. Now ME2 is an entire diffrent business. Depending what Kaidan did during his time alone with the Alliance, I can see Garrus behing more or less happy with him.

On the romance side tho, i drather see some snark then some fighting. And we all know who would win a snark fest between Kaikai and Garrus 

The drama of a fight, not so much -- I mean, it'd hardly be fair, would it?
Some snark I'd enjoy (not that it'd be any more fair, Outmane's right there) -- but I just don't know if I can see either of them going that path. They seemed to get along fine in ME1 and neither are the sort to let personal matters muss up business/duty. But if it happens, I'll lawl.

[Damate]

outmane wrote...

what do you mean by 'cheating' Garrus roamnce ? that you cheated on your ME1 partner or cheated on Garrus ?

^This -- I'm confused. Is there a Garrus-Loyal vs Not version to the romance?

And gah, that word! It isn't cheating if there's no understanding between partners and no deception! (totally not aimed at you, Outmane <3 just my 'why do they call it cheating!?!' gut response)

[Damate]

darthnick427 wrote...

Lol in my head canon Garrus is pissed at the VS in general for even considering the fact that Shepard was being manipulated or working for the enemy. Garrus understands Shepard did only what was needed. He finds the VS ignorant and pathetic for being so blind. He doesn't hate them, but he lost A LOT of respect in them on Horizon.

Huh, okay, if you put it that way, I guess I can see that being true of Garrus. And lack of loyalty isn't exactly something that would endear the Turian to the VS post-Horizon.

Bring on the snark banter!

[outmane]

In my book VS better had a very good reason to turn on Shep for Garrus to forgive him/her.
But I dont see Garrus as feeling threaten in his relation with Shep. I cant even see him getting with a Shep who still has feelings for the VS. Hed rather be friend and not take the chance for hurt, i think.

[Damate]

outmane wrote...

In my book VS better had a very good reason to turn on Shep for Garrus to forgive him/her.
But I dont see Garrus as feeling threaten in his relation with Shep. I cant even see him getting with a Shep who still has feelings for the VS. Hed rather be friend and not take the chance for hurt, i think.

^ This.

But, seriously, all joking about the fun of a tomcat fight or snarky banter aside, I do hope various Shep/LI(s) scenarios engender greater acknowledgement from other NPCs/among the squadmates, purely for the sake of getting a better sense of what they are thinking/how they are reacting. For better or worse it's the little details that give depth.

Beyond all else I'm most interested in seeing how the whole Mass Effect story plays out -- but the richer the 'little details' the more I'll be able to immerse myself.

[darthnick427]

makalathbonagin wrote...

uhm u guys r so boring ... here lemme help
 *snip pic*

 when did Garrus' dancing skills surpass the techno Turian?! Garrus is gonna give Legion a run for his money