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[jellobell]

YvetteAngel wrote...

I don't understand.  Is there more dialogue for Garrus if you reject him after you get his interest, unlike the other characters rejection reactions?  Wow I made that sentence come out weird.

If you had any doubt about how much Garrus wanted to be with Shepard then just watch this.

[PalAvian]

YvetteAngel wrote...

I don't understand.  Is there more dialogue for Garrus if you reject him after you get his interest, unlike the other characters rejection reactions?  Wow I made that sentence come out weird.

I think there’s like 3 versions of it, each one gets progressively worse. I didn’t do them (even though I was tempted specially the first time I played it) but I saw them on youtube.

[SoulShiver]

jellobell wrote...

YvetteAngel wrote...

I don't understand.  Is there more dialogue for Garrus if you reject him after you get his interest, unlike the other characters rejection reactions?  Wow I made that sentence come out weird.

If you had any doubt about how much Garrus wanted to be with Shepard then just watch this.

I actually did this in game to see what happens, it feels so much worse.

Modifié par SoulShiver, 24 février 2012 - 12:03 .

[YvetteAngel]

Demonhoopa wrote...

Night of Suicide Mission: "This is the only good thing in my miserable life. I don't want to screw this up. Please have my weird looking human/turian babies". 

HAHA, love it! 

Little goo goo GarrGarr's <3

[PalAvian]

outmane wrote...
I think this feeling is fully intended by the writers. they wanted to create that anxiety about wher the relationship was heading and if it was a good idea to persue it.

That's just evil! Evil I tell ya!

[jellobell]

PalAvian wrote...

outmane wrote...
I think this feeling is fully intended by the writers. they wanted to create that anxiety about wher the relationship was heading and if it was a good idea to persue it.

That's just evil! Evil I tell ya!

Well the romance has to have somewhere to go in ME3. If we got everything we wanted in ME2 then there could be no improvement in the final act. 

[PalAvian]

Demonhoopa wrote...

I think it kind of evolves. Something like this.

After initial suggestion: "Well....why not? Can't say I have a human fetish but you're about the best friend (only friend) I have. So yeah. Hell yeah".

Next Talk: "I really want this. Lets do it" 

Night of Suicide Mission: "This is the only good thing in my miserable life. I don't want to screw this up. Please have my weird looking human/turian babies". 

But you see? Those are the bits you’re picking up. And it’s all good.
But all I was hearing was; ‘Are we crazy for even considering [...]?’ and ‘Part of me still thinks we’re crazy [...]’ if that happened to me real life, I’d read it as: he’s not sure or worse; he doesn’t want it but still wants to spare my feelings and is hoping for me call it off. Which I promptly and unceremoniously would.

[The Sarendoctrinator]

Garrus looks heart-broken if you reject him in the final scene. I've only seen screenshots and read the dialogue. Everyone sounded so sad after they watched it on youtube, so I didn't. It'll never happen in my game anyway.

I don't know what it is. Maybe some things that Garrus says rub people the wrong way? I just could never understand why, personally, because his interest and how much he cares for FemShep were always clear to me throughout the romance. When my mom watched the first romance conversation with me, she compared Garrus' attitude to a character in a movie we saw - the guy was trying to be so respectful of his girlfriend and not suggest anything innapropriate, and when she did, it surprised him at first, but then he was all, "Yeah, we can definitely do that! Let's do that!" And that's how I saw it too. Garrus never thought of being intimate with a human before, let alone his commanding officer, but when she brought it up, he was all for it.

Demonhoopa wrote...

Night of Suicide Mission: "This is the only good thing in my miserable life. I don't want to screw this up. Please have my weird looking human/turian babies". 

The bolded is one of the reasons why I love their final romance scene.  So emotional.

FemShep, how dare you tell him to stop talking?! Limited dialogue choices putting the wrong words in her mouth...

jellobell wrote...

Same here. I'd love to see some reactions to a human/turian pairing, especially from that one turian councilmember or that Terra Firma bigot guy, just so I can get my Shepard to tear them apart. Besides, one of my favourite things about Bioware games is their (to borrow a phrase) "sheer head-crushing depth". I'm always going to want to learn more about the world of Mass Effect, and any new information about the society and culture of the ME galaxy is welcome.

I like the way you think.

[Demonhoopa]

jellobell wrote...

YvetteAngel wrote...

I don't understand.  Is there more dialogue for Garrus if you reject him after you get his interest, unlike the other characters rejection reactions?  Wow I made that sentence come out weird.

If you had any doubt about how much Garrus wanted to be with Shepard then just watch this.

Did everyone see this comment under the video?



Garrus: I love you shepard please make love to me
Shepard: I would but... I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF SOME F**KING CALIBRATIONS!!! HOW DOES IT FEEL HUH?! HUH!!!
 

Modifié par Demonhoopa, 24 février 2012 - 12:21 .

[The Sarendoctrinator]

Demonhoopa wrote...

Did everyone see this comment under the video?



Garrus: I love you shepard please make love to me
Shepard: I would but... I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF SOME F**KING CALIBRATIONS!!! HOW DOES IT FEEL HUH?! HUH!!!
 

Oh, Shepard, you're terrible. Now is not the time! (That is hilarious though. xD)

[PalAvian]

jellobell wrote...

Well the romance has to have somewhere to go in ME3. If we got everything we wanted in ME2 then there could be no improvement in the final act. 

I‘m really hoping you‘re right (crossing all my fingers and toes)
But look a Tali romance which I did with maleShep, can you believe it? At the time I didn’t even know that Tali and Garrus were that popular, I just went with what I fancied. Her romance, still in the cute department, but better rounded up. You can tell both are into it. Tali is all giddy and stuff and pretty much looking forward to it. Then what Kasumi tells you just underscores what you already know by interacting with Tali herself. How do I get to hear that Garrus likes shep? From him? No... Kasumi.

[YvetteAngel]

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

I just could never understand why, personally, because his interest and how much he cares for FemShep were always clear to me throughout the romance. When my mom watched the first romance conversation with me, she compared Garrus' attitude to a character in a movie we saw - the guy was trying to be so respectful of his girlfriend and not suggest anything innapropriate, and when she did, it surprised him at first, but then he was all, "Yeah, we can definitely do that! Let's do that!" And that's how I saw it too. Garrus never thought of being intimate with a human before, let alone his commanding officer, but when she brought it up, he was all for it.

Exactly, once she made it clear on her end, he was determined to find a way to make it work.

[Blankeflos]

About the way people interpret Garuss' feelings: To me it always felt like a Shepard who is crushing on Garrus was happily chatting with him when the opportunity of suggesting something with a joke appeared and she did it. Then Garrus was all Wait, what?! ... It may be strange but whoooa, how have I never thought about it before? Sure, I'm in! <3

Just like in real life, sometimes you have to give the idea or nothing will ever happen. Yet, it's not like you're forcing something, you're just showing how you feel just in case people can't read your mind. :innocent:

[The Sarendoctrinator]

I was one of those people who wanted Garrus and Tali to be options in ME1.

YvetteAngel wrote...

Exactly, once she made it clear on her end, he was determined to find a way to make it work.

And just think of all the awkwardness he had to go through finding that info, like Mordin giving him the sex talk and sending human/turian relation videos to his omni-tool or private terminal. He really wanted things to go right with Shepard, and the result was adorable.

Edit: Blankeflos, I agree with your interpretation too.

Modifié par The Sarendoctrinator, 24 février 2012 - 12:50 .

[CrazyIvan93]

SoulShiver wrote...

About the romance it seems obvious how much Garrus likes Shep if you reject him pre-omega4 (I did click it once to see what happens, I wish I didn't, poor Garrus.)

Also @AgentMulder5 I'm so jealous of that luck.

Yeah i know, rejecting Garrus is like kicking a puppy 

[YvetteAngel]

PalAvian wrote...

jellobell wrote...

Well the romance has to have somewhere to go in ME3. If we got everything we wanted in ME2 then there could be no improvement in the final act. 

I‘m really hoping you‘re right (crossing all my fingers and toes)
But look a Tali romance which I did with maleShep, can you believe it? At the time I didn’t even know that Tali and Garrus were that popular, I just went with what I fancied. Her romance, still in the cute department, but better rounded up. You can tell both are into it. Tali is all giddy and stuff and pretty much looking forward to it. Then what Kasumi tells you just underscores what you already know by interacting with Tali herself. How do I get to hear that Garrus likes shep? From him? No... Kasumi.

And afterall.....Tali isn't turian.  She was just being her female quarian self. 
But Garrus, true to his nature....100% Turian soldier, even Sha'ira couldn't phase him. 

[CrazyIvan93]

YvetteAngel wrote...

PalAvian wrote...

jellobell wrote...

Well the romance has to have somewhere to go in ME3. If we got everything we wanted in ME2 then there could be no improvement in the final act. 

I‘m really hoping you‘re right (crossing all my fingers and toes)
But look a Tali romance which I did with maleShep, can you believe it? At the time I didn’t even know that Tali and Garrus were that popular, I just went with what I fancied. Her romance, still in the cute department, but better rounded up. You can tell both are into it. Tali is all giddy and stuff and pretty much looking forward to it. Then what Kasumi tells you just underscores what you already know by interacting with Tali herself. How do I get to hear that Garrus likes shep? From him? No... Kasumi.

And afterall.....Tali isn't turian.  She was just being her female quarian self. 
But Garrus, true to his nature....100% Turian soldier, even Sha'ira couldn't phase him. 

When did she try to phase him?

[YvetteAngel]

Blankeflos wrote...

About the way people interpret Garuss' feelings: To me it always felt like a Shepard who is crushing on Garrus was happily chatting with him when the opportunity of suggesting something with a joke appeared and she did it. Then Garrus was all Wait, what?! ... It may be strange but whoooa, how have I never thought about it before? Sure, I'm in! <3

Just like in real life, sometimes you have to give the idea or nothing will ever happen. Yet, it's not like you're forcing something, you're just showing how you feel just in case people can't read your mind. :innocent:

That's how interpreted it, perfectly said, imo! 

[Eradyn]

By the time you hit the romance scene, it's pretty obvious (whether you reject him or accept him) that Garrus is at least a little serious about this. It's more apparent when you reject him, because BW hits you over the head with "good going, you cold-hearted bastard, you just kicked a puppy." And then the wine-bottle zoom happens.

But even when you accept him, you can see how stressed he is over seeing this go right and him wanting things to work out. You can also see how he progressively gets more serious/into the idea as you reinforce your feelings for him over the course of 2/3 conversations (and this can be further validated by seeing his reactions at each "dumping" point). He is increasingly invested in a relationship/the idea of a relationship with femShep as you continue on.

So, I think both sides are right, to a certain degree (the "it's just a fling" and the "it's more than just a fling" sides).  It starts kind of as a "fling" (I don't prefer using the word "fling" as they both have too much respect and care for the other for it to be that, so perhaps "casual relationship" or some such term would be more fitting) but also progresses quickly into more serious territory.  Imho.

Modifié par Eradyn, 24 février 2012 - 01:05 .

[YvetteAngel]

CrazyIvan93 wrote...

YvetteAngel wrote...

PalAvian wrote...

jellobell wrote...

Well the romance has to have somewhere to go in ME3. If we got everything we wanted in ME2 then there could be no improvement in the final act. 

I‘m really hoping you‘re right (crossing all my fingers and toes)
But look a Tali romance which I did with maleShep, can you believe it? At the time I didn’t even know that Tali and Garrus were that popular, I just went with what I fancied. Her romance, still in the cute department, but better rounded up. You can tell both are into it. Tali is all giddy and stuff and pretty much looking forward to it. Then what Kasumi tells you just underscores what you already know by interacting with Tali herself. How do I get to hear that Garrus likes shep? From him? No... Kasumi.

And afterall.....Tali isn't turian.  She was just being her female quarian self. 
But Garrus, true to his nature....100% Turian soldier, even Sha'ira couldn't phase him. 

When did she try to phase him?

Oh!  I was just making a joke since she could influence/accomodate anyone in the whole universe.  lol

[PalAvian]

YvetteAngel wrote...

And afterall.....Tali isn't turian.  She was just being her female quarian self. 
But Garrus, true to his nature....100% Turian soldier, even Sha'ira couldn't phase him. 

Sha'ira (I had to google that, couldn’t recognize the name)
My lord she’s creepy. And I walked right into it, I was thinking about reloading the game after that went horribly wrong. But I just couldn’t be bothered, one advantage of playing a game that is not connected to your main game/shep [ME2 PS3]...so I’ll just pretend it didn’t happen

[CrazyIvan93]

Eradyn wrote...

By the time you hit the romance scene, it's pretty obvious (whether you reject him or accept him) that Garrus is at least a little serious about this. It's more apparent when you reject him, because BW hits you over the head with "good going, you cold-hearted bastard, you just kicked a puppy." And then the wine-bottle zoom happens.

But even when you accept him, you can see how stressed he is over seeing this go right and him wanting things to work out. You can also see how he progressively gets more serious/into the idea as you reinforce your feelings for him over the course of 2/3 conversations (and this can be further validated by seeing his reactions at each "dumping" point). He is increasingly invested in a relationship/the idea of a relationship with femShep as you continue on.

So, I think both sides are right, to a certain degree (the "it's just a fling" and the "it's more than just a fling" sides).  It starts, very much, as a "fling" (I don't prefer using the word "fling" as they both have too much respect and care for the other for it to be that, so perhaps "casual relationship" or some such term would be more fitting) but also progresses quickly into more serious territory.  Imho.

Very well written. I tip my hat to you. Now i know my Garrus loves me back 

[CrazyIvan93]

YvetteAngel wrote...

CrazyIvan93 wrote...

YvetteAngel wrote...

PalAvian wrote...

jellobell wrote...

Well the romance has to have somewhere to go in ME3. If we got everything we wanted in ME2 then there could be no improvement in the final act. 

I‘m really hoping you‘re right (crossing all my fingers and toes)
But look a Tali romance which I did with maleShep, can you believe it? At the time I didn’t even know that Tali and Garrus were that popular, I just went with what I fancied. Her romance, still in the cute department, but better rounded up. You can tell both are into it. Tali is all giddy and stuff and pretty much looking forward to it. Then what Kasumi tells you just underscores what you already know by interacting with Tali herself. How do I get to hear that Garrus likes shep? From him? No... Kasumi.

And afterall.....Tali isn't turian.  She was just being her female quarian self. 
But Garrus, true to his nature....100% Turian soldier, even Sha'ira couldn't phase him. 

When did she try to phase him?

Oh!  I was just making a joke since she could influence/accomodate anyone in the whole universe.  lol

Oh LOL okay 

[Hadeedak]

Blankeflos wrote...

About the way people interpret Garuss' feelings: To me it always felt like a Shepard who is crushing on Garrus was happily chatting with him when the opportunity of suggesting something with a joke appeared and she did it. Then Garrus was all Wait, what?! ... It may be strange but whoooa, how have I never thought about it before? Sure, I'm in! <3

Just like in real life, sometimes you have to give the idea or nothing will ever happen. Yet, it's not like you're forcing something, you're just showing how you feel just in case people can't read your mind. :innocent:

That's close to how I headcanon it. It sure seemed to fit better for my Shepard that she just made a crack without really meaning it -- then they both accidentally started thinking about it and being like "Yeah. Hey. All right."

[YvetteAngel]

PalAvian wrote...

YvetteAngel wrote...

And afterall.....Tali isn't turian.  She was just being her female quarian self. 
But Garrus, true to his nature....100% Turian soldier, even Sha'ira couldn't phase him. 

Sha'ira (I had to google that, couldn’t recognize the name)
My lord she’s creepy. And I walked right into it, I was thinking about reloading the game after that went horribly wrong. But I just couldn’t be bothered, one advantage of playing a game that is not connected to your main game/shep [ME2 PS3]...so I’ll just pretend it didn’t happen

Haha! Yep, having a Selective Memory comes in handy sometimes!!