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No Shepard Without Vakarian: Garrus Love and Turian Discussion


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 Garrus<3:wub:

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CrazyIvan93 wrote...

 Garrus<3:wub:


Seconded.

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I knew I would return to several extra pages... again. xD Not as bad as I thought, though. Massive catch-up post incoming!

eshrafel wrote...

I wonder how early on we can recruit Garrus, I hope it's pretty much first thing like in ME2 again. You'd assume so because the squad size isn't that big, but I have no idea. Hope he didn't get into more trouble after Shep got sent back to Earth D:

Also ME3 needs to mention Saren at some point. I don't care how, do it!

I'm guessing he has an early recruitment mission. (Don't worry guys, no spoilers in my explanation.) Garrus is available in the demo to bring to Tuchanka, right? Well, according to a Game Informer article I read that had a preview of ME3, Tuchanka is one of the first possible mission choices after the set path in the very beginning.

And I'd be happy to see a mention of Saren in ME3! :) I saw something that made me think of him, but it's a spoiler.

shygravel wrote...

outmane wrote...

Who think we should go in other thread and post this Image IPB (kidding of course, but they need Garrus help!)

*snip*

This! Both Sarendoc's part and Outmane's pic. ^^ The amount of time I spend on BSN has reduced drastically now. All of this sky-is-falling negativity is just... mind boggling. Don't get me wrong, I totally understand being strongly invested in how this game turns out, but feeding off this torrent of panic/outrage/anxiety is just.... patently unhealthy.

Thank goodness the Garrus thread stays classy. Image IPB

I had considered posting something like that in the panicked threads, actually. It's sad to see everyone worry. Not sure if I have the time and energy for it though. I think that, no matter what, there will always be people who believe the worst even if the source isn't completely reliable. But I am seriously considering asking the other character threads after ME3 comes out if they want a "road to happiness" guide like the one I'll be posting here and in the Thane thread. You know, if it turns out we're right about the happy endings. ;)

ArcanaLegacy wrote...

Agreed on the happiness ending with Garrus. As far as I know [which is near to nothing] *staying spoiler free[YAY!]* is that there IS a "good" ending. As well as a complete f-ed up ending where the galaxy could apparently be taken over by Reapers and destroyed, according to Casey. I know also that theres an ending [theres probably multiple though] with Garrus alive and he's with Shepard. Now where they are, or what they are saying or doing is a mystery to me. Its probably a romance ending cuz Casey also said that the romances from me1/ppl from me1 in general will have some kind of loving "conclusion" of epic proportions. So this refers to Garrus,Tali,Kaiden,Ash and Liara. Shepard has known the significant other since the start, I can see why they would have alot of emotions involved in the end. After all the saren business, and the collectors, the reapers.....finally it'd be like taking a breather for the first time in a long time.

bout the armors: 1- ur welcome!*hug*
2- Im the exact same. Actually Im a huge sucker for the classics.Whatever outfit the characters are in, i usually stay with it the whole game because I just love the design and thats what the devs created. I left Garrus in the original archangel armor in me2 the enitre time. I disliked the DLC outfit [that damn obscure headset and orange visor? BLASPHEMY!] And the loyalty colors didnt really work for me. Seemed out of place. classic blue works so much better on the guy. And at first - imma be honest, I wasnt TOO fond of the chrome. I wanted a classic black & blue theme. But over time I actually came to love it SO MUCH. Its like Garrus has matured; he's grown into this badass respected veteran in the turian military. And a shiny Garrus is always a sexy Garrus. Plus...theres buckles now. We all know what that means....Image IPB

First of all, the bolded text - that's awesome news! :D Do you remember which interview it's from?

I used to put Garrus and the other characters in non-matching armor for the stats, but... it just looked wrong, so wrong to me, when Garrus' army green camo armor clashed with the color of his tattoos and visor. Yeah, I know that's really picky, but I think of them like my own characters, who tend to have favorite colors. My MainShep loves red. Some of my Shepards don't wear bold colors into battle because they want to be stealthy. Carson, on the other hand, will wear bright orange because he feels at home in a prison jumpsuit. xD I think Garrus would prefer something with blue if he has the choice. And I just can't see the men wearing Phoenix armnor unless I imagine that they lost a bet with Shepard.

 Yes Garrus has aged. All the characters have. Though to me, the most notable ones are Kaiden, Garrus, Shep [male shep anyways...], & Anderson when it comes to any reference to them looking older. Garrus has been through alot. Plus who knows what his been doing. Obviously he's back in the military, so cue dangerous missions - and at the same time knowing the impending Reaper invasion no ones really believes [thats mentally tasking and frustrating] - and trying to support his girlfriend who's been grounded on Earth who he can't even probably see til she's released.
No one said being on the galaxy's front line of defense wasnt stressful. Aside from the emotions, graphic-wise = Theres obviously HUGE detail on his face. You can really see the slight cracking, dents, and rough ridges on the plating of his face.

This is pretty close to my thoughts on the differences in Garrus' face. I didn't look at the ME3 screenshots and think, "Garrus looks older." He just looks like a war veteran to me. He's been through a lot, and it shows... but definitely not in a bad way.

AgentMulder5 wrote...

I'm not so sure that most people are mad at the apparent lack of a "everyone gets out alive" ending. I think most people are angry about knowing ahead of time, and having to bare that burden of knowledge throughout the entire game.

It would be the opposite for me, if I actually believed any of these rumors. I actively seek out the spoilers, and not just for Mass Effect. Whenever it's possible for me to find spoilers for anything, game/movie/book/TV show, I go looking for it. In my case, knowing the good news ahead of time gives me something to celebrate, and knowing the bad news ahead of time means that I can prepare for it. If there truly were no "Shepard lives" endings, that would annoy me. But then I just wouldn't play the endgame. It's like when I watch the same movies over and over again knowing that my favorite character dies in the end. I look away when it happens and, like many of you guys said, enjoy the rest of the journey.

Also, I'm another Criminal Minds fan. Image IPB I didn't know there were so many of us here.

outmane wrote...

Also all the endings are obscure enough to give place to many interpretations. To stay away from spoilers, heres a Garrus example:

Do FemShep and Garrus get intimate before hitting the Omega4 relay ? If you feel secure enough to give an interpretation to the headbump, youll be fine with giving an interpretation to the 'good ending'.

Well then, victory is mine! :D A lot of my roleplaying involves interpretations of everything Shepard says and does, and each time, I find it perfectly believable. So this is just fine with me.

shygravel wrote...

Seriously, my head is already churning with headcanon in the event of several different outcomes. I think those of us here in this thread are all pretty into the RP elements of the game: Both in enjoying playing our Sheps and interacting with characters and filling in the spaces with our version. Take what we like, enjoy the ride for what it is (and I still very much believe the ride will be awesome) and take from it what we will. Image IPB It's been epic and I'm gonna make the most of it!

Same here. This is my favorite part of the game, and I'll definitely go into ME3 expecting to enjoy it!

outmane wrote...

Here is a post by the devs on how paragon and renegade points will work in ME3 (jsut making sure all of us seen it and are ready to go in a few days !)

http://blog.bioware....-mass-effect-3/

I'm so glad BioWare changed the system. The new one is much better for roleplayers like myself, without taking anything away from the people who want to play pure Paragon and Renegade.

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I wish I was turian : /

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At this point I'm rather pessimistic about the chances of a happy ending for the romances. Haven't read the spoilers, but I can't think of anything that could cause such negativity other than having all the collective "ships" sunk.

But even if that were the case it wouldn't be all that bad. There's plenty of awesome stories were the leads split at the end :/

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Liec wrote...

At this point I'm rather pessimistic about the chances of a happy ending for the romances. Haven't read the spoilers, but I can't think of anything that could cause such negativity other than having all the collective "ships" sunk.

But even if that were the case it wouldn't be all that bad. There's plenty of awesome stories were the leads split at the end :/

I think the reason is, people rushed to finish and missed out on a lot of content needed for a better ending. At least one of the people saying "all endings are bad" finished in 23 hours. As an RP completionist, it took me over 100 hours to finish ME1. I'm not worried. Even if they absolutely must be separated, I can easily plan out a reunion between them for my own headcanon. The joys of an overactive imagination. :)

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I doubt that's the case. One guy doing the Q&A said he did pretty much everything. Plus I'm sure all the endings have been discovered by now by people poking through the files. They're even on youtube, I've heard.

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I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it turns out then. I saw more ending choices in the leaked script than I did on the forums, so there will probably be at least one in-game that I'm happy with. Just over four days until I can get the game, strategy guide, and find out for sure!

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Okay, Garrus fans, I've spent a lot of time in the spoiler forum and I think I've gotten a fairly good idea of what's legit and what isn't. And I can't spoil anything for you without your consent, obviously; nor can I say that you'll all feel the same way, since we're all different. But from everything I've gathered and all the analyses I've read, I think I can finally say that I'm satisfied with the ending. Not...happy with it, but I can accept it.

It's definitely VERY bittersweet, but I don't think it's the paradigm of doom and gloom some people are fearing. And I'll say this: according to an analysis I just read, it may be just open-ended enough that a healthy dose of headcanon can fix it right up. edit: I should quickly mention that this applies one or two of the endings, not all of them. We'll still have to work hard for that salvageable scenario.

I hope that's not too spoilery for anyone; send the word and I'll remove this post on the double.

Modifié par AlphaDormante, 02 mars 2012 - 05:37 .


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I don't think there's any spoilers in your post that haven't been brought up here already, with so many people worrying about the ending choices. It has just enough info for those of us who have been following the spoilers to figure it out. And what you said is basically my worst-case scenario. At the very least, the power of imagination can make it right without much trouble.

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There's certainly the tech floating around the universe to patch up a lot of pain, if not always quickly or cleanly. Unless I'm missing something -- very possible -- even the gloom and doom isn't totally doomy, if a bit gloomy.

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I keep taking very brief peeks at the spoilers :< someone stop me. Ughhh even if some of us know/have an inkling what happens, we should still try to keep spoilers out.

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Ive been saying all along that i'm sure there are some crappy endings, but i trust bioware to have put in a good ending or two in there, you probably just have to work a little harder to get them. people need to stop worrying so much. bioware is a company, plain and simple, and all companies want to make money, and they might make money initially off ME3 with the initial height but they're smart enough to know if they just stuck us with a bunch of **** endings they would alienate a large portion of their fanbase and that would hurt them a lot in the long run. Like the picture said, stay calm and do calibrations. I'm almost never this chill about things like this, i just got a feeling is all. i could eat my words in a few weeks but i dont think i will.

but more on topic, i'm curious. who was your favorite NPC Turian?

Mine is a tie between Saren and Lorik Qui'in. I find his affection for human sayings and metaphors to be very adorable lol and Saren is just badass

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LadyVakarian wrote...

 This Thread needs some good Garrus hugging!
 
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Ok, I went on the artist page and the title litterally made me cry.
Great piece!

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 I forgot, but has anyone posted Efleck's Lorik Qui'in yet? 

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Gavorn is probably my favorite just because I can always go up to him and be like "ARE YOU A WOMAN?"

*cough*

That being said, I've always loved the turian counciller. Anyone who fingerquotes Shepard has a quad, and Shep could stand hearing she's crazy when she SOUNDS crazy more often.

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Guys! My friend is a bit drunk, but she just busted into my room singing as loud as she could, "The ship hold is alive with the sound of calibrations!" I about died, and spit out my coke.

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Amondra wrote...

Guys! My friend is a bit drunk, but she just busted into my room singing as loud as she could, "The ship hold is alive with the sound of calibrations!" I about died, and spit out my coke.


This made my day. xD Your friend is awesome.

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Karrie788 wrote...

Amondra wrote...

Guys! My friend is a bit drunk, but she just busted into my room singing as loud as she could, "The ship hold is alive with the sound of calibrations!" I about died, and spit out my coke.


This made my day. xD Your friend is awesome.


She is the reason I got into the games and fell in love with Garrus. She love that Turian like the heat from a sun.

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That's a great picture of Lorik. I really like that pose for him too. He looks like a wealthy business man.

Kiraiko44 wrote...

Ive been saying all along that i'm sure there are some crappy endings, but i trust bioware to have put in a good ending or two in there, you probably just have to work a little harder to get them. people need to stop worrying so much. bioware is a company, plain and simple, and all companies want to make money, and they might make money initially off ME3 with the initial height but they're smart enough to know if they just stuck us with a bunch of **** endings they would alienate a large portion of their fanbase and that would hurt them a lot in the long run. Like the picture said, stay calm and do calibrations. I'm almost never this chill about things like this, i just got a feeling is all. i could eat my words in a few weeks but i dont think i will.

My thoughts exactly. I've had a good feeling about ME3 since the start too.

but more on topic, i'm curious. who was your favorite NPC Turian?

Mine is a tie between Saren and Lorik Qui'in. I find his affection for human sayings and metaphors to be very adorable lol and Saren is just badass

I think my answer to this is obvious by my username, but I'll say it anyway - Saren! :D

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Kiraiko44 wrote...

but more on topic, i'm curious. who was your favorite NPC Turian?

Mine is a tie between Saren and Lorik Qui'in. I find his affection for human sayings and metaphors to be very adorable lol and Saren is just badass


The bartender at Starlounge. Or Lorik. Or Li. Or the "You humans are all racist" guy.

... I can't choose.

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Kiraiko44 wrote...

but more on topic, i'm curious. who was your favorite NPC Turian?


Probably General Septimus.

I just like him, for some reason. ^_^

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SgtElias wrote...

Kiraiko44 wrote...

but more on topic, i'm curious. who was your favorite NPC Turian?


Probably General Septimus.

I just like him, for some reason. ^_^


"The troops can kiss my leathery backside!"

This had me laughing for five minutes.

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Amondra wrote...

Guys! My friend is a bit drunk, but she just busted into my room singing as loud as she could, "The ship hold is alive with the sound of calibrations!" I about died, and spit out my coke.

I love your friend.

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I think I liked most of the turian NPCs. The only exception I can think of was that guy who was trying to kill Tali at the beginning of ME1. Cool tattoos on that guy though.

Edit: For top of the page, a screenshot of my favorite turian NPC (courtesy of the ME Wiki).

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