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[eshrafel]

Yeah, I never realised you could just say you'd help, then hand the evidence straight over to Anoleis, *then* go back to Lorik and tell him what you did.

The sad shock in his voice is too much :-( Businessman he may be, but he's still most definitely turian. And turians don't do such things!

[Karrie788]

eshrafel wrote...

Yeah, I never realised you could just say you'd help, then hand the evidence straight over to Anoleis, *then* go back to Lorik and tell him what you did.

The sad shock in his voice is too much :-( Businessman he may be, but he's still most definitely turian. And turians don't do such things!

"See this drink? This drink is my only friend."
...
"I wish to be ALONE!"

I love Lorik but the way he says those things never fails to crack me up.

[PalAvian]

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...
I've seen a lot of people on the forums saying they'll cry during ME3, but I can't join you on that one. Games and movies and stuff like that just don't make me cry. Maybe I've been a bit desensitized after watching my favorites get killed off in almost everything I've watched and/or read, sometimes multiple times, and oddly enough, sometimes in similar ways. My reaction is probably more like an empty sadness, with a look as if I've just been betrayed by the writers. xD

I agree, I'm not one for opening the water works either, but I do resent the emotional blackmail though. It's a cheap shot under the belt and more often than not represents lack of writing talent, you know how they say it's easier to make people cry than laugh. Well it's true.

Modifié par PalAvian, 05 mars 2012 - 09:46 .

[mrpoultry]

Lorik "Ah Shepard you're back, you have the evidence I assume?"
Shepard "I had it but...."
Lorik "but.....?"
Shepard "I gave it to the administrator"
Lorik ".........what is that charming human expression....oh yes GTFO!!!"

[CARL_DF90]

lol I love how ol' Lorik has such a following. I have to admit though that even I miss that old Turian.

[eshrafel]

All my Bioware/Obsidian games usually end up super depressing. Mass Effect has been the happiest one so far. In Dragon Age Origins, I had to kill Wynne, and Leliana betrayed me, as did Zevran, and Morrigan left me, and so did Alistair. At the final battle it was me and Sten and Oghren with the only one holding the city gates being Dog. In KOTOR2 pretty much all my party ended up killing each other at the end and Atton got sliced up too.

Clearly I'm a team leader.

I can't say I'm super happy about what I've heard about some things in ME3, but it will depend on how well it is done to an extent. The lack of dialogue options troubles me more, in fact (less replayability from my POV). Cheap, unavoidable, cutscened disasters with no interaction or warning always rub me the wrong way (see; Anders, DA2). They're supposed to be shocking, but I think we can agree that a game is not a book or movie, and I think we all expect some measure of interaction or choice in a game touted as an RPG -- particularly at significant points. We'll see. ME3 will be a good game, I just hope it's a great one.

[PalAvian]

mrpoultry wrote...

Lorik "Ah Shepard you're back, you have the evidence I assume?"
Shepard "I had it but...."
Lorik "but.....?"
Shepard "I gave it to the administrator"
Lorik ".........what is that charming human expression....oh yes GTFO!!!"

^ LoL
Am I the only deviant that likes to get mistreated by turians? Like for example the guy in one of the shops at the citadel, he’s so cranky I love it.

[eshrafel]

I don't remember this cranky turian at all. Where is he? The ME1 guards on Noveria creep me out when they say they heard about the shooting going on a Synthetic Insights and then add... "Wonder who could've done that?"

If I were Shepard, time to book a ship off that snowy rock. While hiding in a cargo box.

[Yojimaru]

Look what I made from the latest Legion and Friends video!



Making Gifs is such a pain... the online converters are either low quality or don't work.

[PalAvian]

eshrafel wrote...

I don't remember this cranky turian at all. Where is he? The ME1 guards on Noveria creep me out when they say they heard about the shooting going on a Synthetic Insights and then add... "Wonder who could've done that?"

If I were Shepard, time to book a ship off that snowy rock. While hiding in a cargo box.

He’s on ME2, the shop (can’t remember what it’s called) with the turian you can interact with.

[Sorael.A]

Disarmed - 3/5
Deviantart
Shepard couldn't find a antique store soon enough for Valentine's Day but the one she found was the classiest <3

I almost didn't finish this on time simply because I am mentally a vegetable

Modifié par Sorael.A, 05 mars 2012 - 10:15 .

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

I thought Eradyn's comment was about certain forums being locked to people who don't have game registration? I don't think the forums would be shut down entirely unless too much activity can crash them... and if that happens, um, too bad for everyone who wanted to read my "road to happiness" guides. ^^; I'll try to have them up during the afternoon of March 6th. And Eradyn, you will be missed. I hope you'll come back sometime at least for Garrus' ME3 romance vids.

I've seen a lot of people on the forums saying they'll cry during ME3, but I can't join you on that one. Games and movies and stuff like that just don't make me cry. Maybe I've been a bit desensitized after watching my favorites get killed off in almost everything I've watched and/or read, sometimes multiple times, and oddly enough, sometimes in similar ways. My reaction is probably more like an empty sadness, with a look as if I've just been betrayed by the writers. xD
Edit: Oh yes, I forgot the most important part. Headcanon. "No, he didn't die. Not in my version of the story. I reject your reality and substitute my own! Because my version is better."

If you're like me you'll just sit back and softly curse.

For me, it all ended in ME2. Blowing up the Collecters ship started a chain reaction, neutralizing the Reapers. Done, galaxy saved and lots of free time to spend spooning in the captain's quarters.

[PalAvian]

CARL_DF90 wrote...

lol I love how ol' Lorik has such a following. I have to admit though that even I miss that old Turian.

Yeah I’m kind of surprised myself. And I’m just gonna go ahead and throw it out there; more Lorik'Quiin fanfic! *pretty please*

And Chellick deserves a very special mention in my honest opinion.

[The Sarendoctrinator]

Sorael, that's a beautiful picture! So awesome to see it finished!

eshrafel wrote...

All my Bioware/Obsidian games usually end up super depressing. Mass Effect has been the happiest one so far. In Dragon Age Origins, I had to kill Wynne, and Leliana betrayed me, as did Zevran, and Morrigan left me, and so did Alistair. At the final battle it was me and Sten and Oghren with the only one holding the city gates being Dog. In KOTOR2 pretty much all my party ended up killing each other at the end and Atton got sliced up too.

Clearly I'm a team leader.

Wow. Maybe you should consider buying a strategy guide? xD

Just kidding. I'm in the middle of a DAO playthrough like that too, for roleplaying reasons - Leliana was never recruited, Zevran was killed without being recruited, Sten betrayed him and was sent away, Alistair will leave, and Morrigan, his only friend besides Dog, will leave too. Still not sure what he'll do about Shale and Oghren, but this Warden is really not a people person.

It's funny, I don't have any Mass Effect playthroughs planned with this much... death. I just like more of them. I'll never kill off Garrus or Wrex or any of my favorites. The only DAO companion I really liked was Dog. I hope there will be a happy ending in ME3. Shepard will have to work for it, but I want it to happen. And Garrus needs to be there.

eshrafel wrote...

I don't remember this cranky turian at all. Where is he?

You know that really nice store owner who wants to name his firstborn child after Shepard? It's the same guy, but he hates you if you let the Council die. That'll be a sad moment in my next ME2 playthrough.

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

If you're like me you'll just sit back and softly curse.

For me, it all ended in ME2. Blowing up the Collecters ship started a chain reaction, neutralizing the Reapers. Done, galaxy saved and lots of free time to spend spooning in the captain's quarters.

In my case, it's more like a silent "this is really happening, but it didn't need to" moment.

The chain reaction is a good plan. There will be a lot of awesome moments in ME3 though, so no matter what ending choices we have, I want the stuff leading up to it in my headcanon. Then I'll come up with my own ending if need be.

[SgtElias]

Karrie788 wrote...

Rannin wrote...

I wonder if the backlash is so monumentally bad will they close down the forums entirely?

People are pissed right now. I can't imagine what will happen in a couple of days.
Just... bring popcorn.

I understand what they were going for, but honestly, if the rumors are true and there IS no semi-happy ending . . .  well, I'm sort of surprised that they went that route. I think the freak-out is going to be epic.

And I'll definitely be here (on the forums, at least) to witness it. I dislike the choice that was made (for Mass Effect, at least), but I will say it's pretty gutsy.  I can't imagine that they thought this was going to be a popular choice, so you have to give them credit for chutzpah.

[Eterna]

can anyone send my the audio link for the Garrus romance?

[eshrafel]

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...
Wow. Maybe you should consider buying a strategy guide? xD

Just kidding. I'm in the middle of a DAO playthrough like that too, for roleplaying reasons - Leliana was never recruited, Zevran was killed without being recruited, Sten betrayed him and was sent away, Alistair will leave, and Morrigan, his only friend besides Dog, will leave too. Still not sure what he'll do about Shale and Oghren, but this Warden is really not a people person.

It's funny, I don't have any Mass Effect playthroughs planned with this much... death..

I never really had it planned in DAO either... I didn't even realise Wynne was a party member. I wondered why it was such a hard game ("when do I get the healer, dammit!?"). But yes... I actually liked the mechanic in DAO/KOTOR2/BG2/NWN2 etc, where if people hated your guts, they would leave you. Or even attack you. It certainly made some decisions really weighty. Of course, ME3 is a bit different in that regard since *everything* is on the line, but it always seemed a bit of a curiosity in ME1/ME2 that people would just tag along with Shepard no matter what, and you'd not have to concern yourselves with them at all.

Also, thanks for the info about the turian shopkeeper. Sadly I'm way too much of a softy to nuke the council. I guess I actually like them. I gave up on a renegade run some time ago in ME1 because I just knew I would not have the heart to make it anything worse than a neutral one. Turian councillor just needs a hug, it's true!

[PalAvian]

SgtElias wrote...
I understand what they were going for, but honestly, if the rumors are true and there IS no semi-happy ending . . .  well, I'm sort of surprised that they went that route. I think the freak-out is going to be epic.

And I'll definitely be here (on the forums, at least) to witness it. I dislike the choice that was made (for Mass Effect, at least), but I will say it's pretty gutsy.  I can't imagine that they thought this was going to be a popular choice, so you have to give them credit for chutzpah.

Donno, at first sight it looks like they went completely nuts and hit the self destruct button. On second thoughts they might want to take the franchise in a new post-apocalyptic FPS type direction. I’m thinking perhaps something like Resistance (they have no chance in competing with that btw). The next game is the last one for me unless they include a less prudish turian in there to tickle my interest.

[eshrafel]

Argh, I'm really sick of post-apocalyptic stuff. I really hope it doesn't go that route. On the other hand, the possibility of only prequels is kind of depressing too.

I do wonder if the main "error" (or perhaps it was just a decision), was basing the Mass Effect world/lore too much around Shepard, so that the only way they could end the Shepard trilogy was to also effectively destroy the setting too. All the best worlds/settings have life and possibilities beyond the main protagonist, and I really felt that in ME1. Perhaps the epic levels just went a bit overboard in ME2/ME3? It seems remarkable they would kill off any opportunity for more sequels/books/comics.

[Mresa]

Sorael.A wrote...

*amazing pic snip*

Disarmed - 3/5
Deviantart
Shepard couldn't find a antique store soon enough for Valentine's Day but the one she found was the classiest <3

I almost didn't finish this on time simply because I am mentally a vegetable

Oh wow that is absolutely gorgeous!! <3
Love your style, wish I could draw that well.

[The Sarendoctrinator]

I think it would be a really bad business move if they didn't include any happy endings. In fact, that's one of the reasons (possibly the main one) that I still have hope for it. Angering a large portion of your fanbase? Not a good idea for the future. I'm one of those people who will still watch a TV show after the writers make a decision that really annoys me because I'll probably still think it's better than the rest of the stuff out there, even more so if there's a part of the series I'm still attached to, and it's the same with videogames. But I could see a lot of people  ragequitting BioWare games forever over that, if the rumors turn out to be true. I'm sure they know that. Anyway, I've loved all the games they made, so I'll have faith in them until they give me a reason not to, and because I don't count rumors as a good reason, I'm waiting to see the real deal.

eshrafel wrote...

I never really had it planned in DAO either... I didn't even realise Wynne was a party member. I wondered why it was such a hard game ("when do I get the healer, dammit!?"). But yes... I actually liked the mechanic in DAO/KOTOR2/BG2/NWN2 etc, where if people hated your guts, they would leave you. Or even attack you. It certainly made some decisions really weighty. Of course, ME3 is a bit different in that regard since *everything* is on the line, but it always seemed a bit of a curiosity in ME1/ME2 that people would just tag along with Shepard no matter what, and you'd not have to concern yourselves with them at all.

Oh. In that case, maybe you do need a strategy guide. ^^; I can definitely see how some of these character interactions can be confusing though. If I hadn't read the KOTOR spoilers, I wouldn't have known that Jaheira (I think that's her name?) was a companion. I roleplayed according to character and got her killed. Whoops. Time to reload and metagame.

I agree, the behavior of some characters, how they like Shepard no matter what, is really strange. The interactions worked better with some characters than others. It's really messed up with Liara, but I was able to play a Shepard who didn't get along with Ashley and only cooperated with her on a professional level quite easily. Hit or miss, I guess.

Also, thanks for the info about the turian shopkeeper. Sadly I'm way too much of a softy to nuke the council. I guess I actually like them. I gave up on a renegade run some time ago in ME1 because I just knew I would not have the heart to make it anything worse than a neutral one. Turian councillor just needs a hug, it's true!

No problem. We're always learning something new about these games. I have no problem letting the Council die. It's too bad you have to miss out on an extra interaction in ME2 if you do, but I don't like them as people. xD No gratitude for my Shepards who saved their lives! It was amusing to watch Shepard argue with them though.

[eshrafel]

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...
If I hadn't read the KOTOR spoilers, I wouldn't have known that Jaheira (I think that's her name?) was a companion.

..

I agree, the behavior of some characters, how they like Shepard no matter what, is really strange. The interactions worked better with some characters than others. It's really messed up with Liara, but I was able to play a Shepard who didn't get along with Ashley and only cooperated with her on a professional level quite easily. Hit or miss, I guess.

Jaheira was the half-elf druid from Baldur's gate! I know because I played BG2 through more than 50 times ;x
Not sure exactly who you mean. Do you mean KOTOR1? Oh, you mean Juhani I think! The Cathar lady.

Talking about Liara, and vaguely ME3 related, I like how Liara's reaction is totally different if you leave her mission to last in ME1. Mass Effect has had some pretty good humour in the most unexpected places. I hope that continues in ME3, at least in places.

[PalAvian]

eshrafel wrote...

Argh, I'm really sick of post-apocalyptic stuff. I really hope it doesn't go that route. On the other hand, the possibility of only prequels is kind of depressing too.

I do wonder if the main "error" (or perhaps it was just a decision), was basing the Mass Effect world/lore too much around Shepard, so that the only way they could end the Shepard trilogy was to also effectively destroy the setting too. All the best worlds/settings have life and possibilities beyond the main protagonist, and I really felt that in ME1. Perhaps the epic levels just went a bit overboard in ME2/ME3? It seems remarkable they would kill off any opportunity for more sequels/books/comics.

Hmm, not really. They could had introduced a new main character (or host of new characters) in the third one, doesn‘t even need to be a big part of the game either, a cameo would do, let Shep go her/his marry way and continue the ME universe with the new character/s later on with future games. Alternatively you don’t even have to do that, you just start a new chapter/game and just mention Shepard here and there.
And I agree with you I don’t like the idea of prequels either.

[Baka-no-Neko]

Shinobu wrote...

Sorael.A wrote...

OMG DATING STUFF EEEE also, I will not listen to the dialogue but from everyone's reactions, I'm sure it will be great :3

www.youtube.com/watch

It's sad but it's such a nice trailer been watching it over and over getting myself ready just in case the worst does happen

Thanks for the link! It's so nice to see something hopeful! I'm trying to keep thinking good thoughts!

And thanks to Baka-no-neko for the lovely artwork! Why did Shepard say "Ass, look what you've done"? Because his confidence made her sniffly?

Legion and Friends cracks me up. Especially since I made a Mass Effect vid to that song. Eh heh. *embarrassed*

I'm not a big crier most of the time, but I do cry at movies. If anything hapens to Garrus, I'm going to weep buckets.

Yeah, my shep's a paragade, but the tough act cannot withstand the awesomeness of Garru's loyalty =D Also, Sorael.A - wow, beautiful work!

[The Sarendoctrinator]

eshrafel wrote...

Jaheira was the half-elf druid from Baldur's gate! I know because I played BG2 through more than 50 times ;x
Not sure exactly who you mean. Do you mean KOTOR1? Oh, you mean Juhani I think! The Cathar lady.

Talking about Liara, and vaguely ME3 related, I like how Liara's reaction is totally different if you leave her mission to last in ME1. Mass Effect has had some pretty good humour in the most unexpected places. I hope that continues in ME3, at least in places.

I knew that was wrong. *facepalm* I got a bunch of older BioWare games a year ago, looked up the spoilers for most of them, but haven't played them all yet, and now the names are getting mixed up. Yes, I meant Juhani. xD At least I remembered what letter it started with.

The hallicination convo if you leave Liara until last was brilliant. I hope there are more moments like that in future games too, different reactions according to Shepard's actions. I just found out recently from this thread that Garrus has a different reaction to Shepard if you recruit him after you become a Spectre in ME1. It's those little changes that can really make the game seem new again with each playthrough.

Edit: Top of the page again?! Quick, to the Saren hologram!

Modifié par The Sarendoctrinator, 05 mars 2012 - 11:14 .