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mellifera

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I'm just not gonna trust anything BioWare says. They need to show me. Don't make any promises because you're terrible at keeping them :'|

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I'm going to wait. Other things in life and school and what not. And we'll see what they've got to say at PAX East. Probably going to borrow my friend's video camera...

Either way, at this point, I'll just be happy to have a bit of closure.

I want the indoctrination theory to be correct. Because it makes so much sense. And intentionally or unintentionally, it'd be a fantastic method of storytelling.

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Ehhh. I've tried keeping up on the topic of the endings (even getting the app ((Don't hate me for it))), and personally. . .?

It pretty much looks to me like a few things happened regarding the ending.

Time. They needed more time for a lot of things. They couldn't add what they wanted to in the time limit they were given.
Leaked script. They were pretty upset when this happened and what people were saying, and because of it, a few things got thrown out or in. Maybe this even led the writers "un-inspired ending". Who knows?
Ending. Yes, in all the videos in the app, in most of the tweets we've been seeing, I honestly think that the writers made that ending the way they did on purpose. It was how they wanted to end Mass Effect. They said they wanted it open and for people to interpret it for themselves. Personally, I think they were just so overwhelmed, they had no idea how to tie up all loose ends as well as please the differing fans opinions.

I could be wrong, who knows. I believe we'll finally hear something official at PAX though.

Edit: I also think the Indoctrination Theory is brilliant. If Bioware could build off of it, it'd be a pretty neat ending I think we could all finally feel "all right" about.

Click this video for an explanation of the Indoctrination Theory.

Modifié par Adventuress, 21 mars 2012 - 07:14 .


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yukidama wrote...

I'm just not gonna trust anything BioWare says. They need to show me. Don't make any promises because you're terrible at keeping them :'|


I've largely stopped paying attention to the ending debacle, and I won't bother with it further (apart from Child's Play donations wherever I can cut corners) until I see actual results.  I think BioWare has their heart in the right place, but the leaked script and time pressures obviously hit them hard, and they clearly didn't expect the backlash they've gotten.  They need time, and I'm willing to give that.  I just won't swallow the PR **** in the meantime.

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I took Garrus on EVERY single mission with me except one. But now i can't remember that mission at all there's a blank in my mind where its meant to be. I know it was an N7 one, but it wasn't the reactor, the labs, the communications one or the Noveria one.....
-Garrus. So awesome his very absence causes amnesia Posted Image

 

I'm replaying ME1 and trying SO HARD not to drag Garrus everywhere since my Shep would rotate out her crew in ME1.  But I still end up having him for all the important stuff ^_^

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Indoctrination Theory - brilliant? I'd sign that in a second. Though, to be fair, I'd gladly accept any "new" ending, "Indoctrination", "Hallucination", whatever, since right now I tend to believe there are no ways the ending can get worse. On the other hand... I used to believe that Mass Effect 3 would include at least one type of Happy End, so I should probably be silent.

As somebody new to both this thread and the whole forum: It is nice to see that I am not the only one bitterly disappointed with the ending of a game I would have considered to be one of the best ones I've ever played. Still, even with the endings, it is an amazing game - as long as I stop playing whenever I hit the 'goodbye scenes' in London. But I suppose I am not the only one feeling like that, either.

Good evening to all of you, and let's not give up hope right now.

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So, just played through Garrus' romance scene (before Cerberus HQ) and was very disappointed not to get a half nekkid turrian. The dialogue after I woke up was good though. So, a question, does Garrus ever tell you that he loves you?

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txmn1016 wrote...

So, a question, does Garrus ever tell you that he loves you?


If you're asking if he ever says the words? Only in the app thingie.

He shows his love in plenty of other ways though. Perfect for me. Actions > words.

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Sable Rhapsody

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txmn1016 wrote...

So, just played through Garrus' romance scene (before Cerberus HQ) and was very disappointed not to get a half nekkid turrian. The dialogue after I woke up was good though. So, a question, does Garrus ever tell you that he loves you?


He does in the Datapad notes, and in some of the localizations.  I believe he says "love" rather than "care" in the French localization?  

Personally, I don't think he needed to say it to make the romance work.  It's in every word, every gesture, every kiss.

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Seleya_LL:  Welcome to the thread, and hold the line!

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Seleya_LL

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Thanks, Sable Rhapsody ;)

And I agree completely. Though it was probably because of this brilliant romance that I needed an extra tissue at the end... Eh, wait. No. "The End Never Happened", right?

If anyone can point me into the direction of a "How to: Adding Banners to Your Sig"-Thread, I'll gladly join the next fleet around. Otherwise, I'll hold the line without a graphic.

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@Seleya_LL Welcome and hold the line. You're definitely not the only one to be disappointed.

If this ever gets solved I'll buy a round of digital beer for everybody and give a toast in honour of Shakarian.

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Modifié par Karrie788, 21 mars 2012 - 07:58 .


#13161
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Where is this app I keep hearing about? Can you get it on a nook? Only real kind of those I have but an I love you Garrus would make it great!

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Karrie788 wrote...

Bluumberry wrote...

Minasha wrote...

Did you already read this? http://blog.bioware.com/2012/03/21/4108/

"Building on their research, Exec Producer
Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content
initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity
for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on
this in April"



Didn't read the article but not impressed if all we get is "clarification". The endings as they currently are suck, whether or not we get told more information.

I know changing the endings and such is less easy, but c'mon >.>


I'm really starting to lose hope.


I think the article is quite promising. I still have faith in bioware, they just can't ignore all the screaming fans out there :D

I'm new here btw, and I have been working on a fanart thingie for a couple of days now. I was immediately inspired by this forum, some fanfic I read and... Clan V :wub: Anyway, it's nice to be here.

#13163
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Hell yeah -- another successful don't have to tweak looks just like she's supposed to ME3 import!
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#13164
Karrie788

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Always nice to see some new people. =) Welcome!

Edit: Rilan, I love her face!

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RilantheFirebug

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Karrie788 wrote...

Always nice to see some new people. =) Welcome!

Edit: Rilan, I love her face!


Thanks. ^_^ Anyone wants her code lemme know, I don't mind sharing her.

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Seleya_LL

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Thanks a lot, Karrie788.

And if the whole disappointing-ending-thing should be changed by BioWare, I'll happily throw in at least five levo-dextro-compatible cakes to celebrate. And hot chocolate for yet another toast in honour of Shakarian...

Let's hope for the best.

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Deviant Ingredient

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I was happy that they didn't have that stupid orange grid scan in the face importer. I found that really distracting in ME2 and it made it hard to determine eye color. The lighting is a bit better too. Now if only Dragon age lighting was better...

Also Garrus. <3

Oh and if you all recall how I mentioned some posts back that most Turians have an 'us' sound somewhere in their name. Well Saren is included as well with his last name. Go figure. I'm now trying to think of a Turian who doesn't have that sound in his name. Not including females.

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Bluumberry wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

So, a question, does Garrus ever tell you that he loves you?


If you're asking if he ever says the words? Only in the app thingie.

He shows his love in plenty of other ways though. Perfect for me. Actions > words.


Im quite fine with it also. Even with all the awsome cuteness and adorkableness of the romance, Garrus stays far away from the 'knight-in-shiny-armor' trope.  I mean he doenst have to be all gooey sentimental to show he cares. And thats awsome 9not that sentimental is bad, but we see it alot already in movies and books).

#13169
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@Rilan: Oh, could you? :) She looks almost exactly how I pictured my Jane.

Deviant Ingredient wrote...

Oh and if you all recall how I mentioned some posts back that most Turians have an 'us' sound somewhere in their name. Well Saren is included as well with his last name. Go figure. I'm now trying to think of a Turian who doesn't have that sound in his name. Not including females.


I think that's because their society was originally inspired from the Roman Empire. Hence the "Turian", in reference to centurion.

Which is awesome. <3

Seleya_LL wrote...

Thanks a lot, Karrie788.

And if
the whole disappointing-ending-thing should be changed by BioWare, I'll
happily throw in at least five levo-dextro-compatible cakes to
celebrate. And hot chocolate for yet another toast in honour of
Shakarian...

Let's hope for the best.


Hell yes.

Modifié par Karrie788, 21 mars 2012 - 08:52 .


#13170
RilantheFirebug

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Annnnd I know understand why there are no good looking custom male Sheps. Sheesh.

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Deviant Ingredient wrote...

I was happy that they didn't have that stupid orange grid scan in the face importer. I found that really distracting in ME2 and it made it hard to determine eye color. The lighting is a bit better too. Now if only Dragon age lighting was better...

Also Garrus. <3

Oh and if you all recall how I mentioned some posts back that most Turians have an 'us' sound somewhere in their name. Well Saren is included as well with his last name. Go figure. I'm now trying to think of a Turian who doesn't have that sound in his name. Not including females.



Oh Geez, um can't remember exactly but the male Turian by the garage on Noveria? Lilitherax? Lorik... The two turians recieving orders when you first find the Turian commander during priority: Palavan. I think.


I am really pleased to see a response from Bioware. Posted Image

The only thing I wish with the Garrus romance is for Shep and him to get more enthusiaztic about reuniting. ME2 did it too, them meeting again after forever is always very... "Oh hey... sup?"Posted Image *handshakes of doom*

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Deviant Ingredient

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Anyone else incredibly sad when Victus Jr. dies? Hell even Shepard looked sad, Garrus was of course his usual comforting self.

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txmn1016 wrote...

So, just played through Garrus' romance scene (before Cerberus HQ) and was very disappointed not to get a half nekkid turrian. The dialogue after I woke up was good though. So, a question, does Garrus ever tell you that he loves you?


I know right I was like this during the fade to black

Me: Posted Image Here it comes..half nekkid turian!

Shameless but it was something I was hoping for. And I hope he was doing some of my work and not on spacebook or something, my shepard wanted to wake up to turian cuddles Posted Image.

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Karrie788 wrote...

@Rilan: Oh, could you? :) She looks almost exactly how I pictured my Jane.


Sure.

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I'd love to see your tweaks. ^_^

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Fleshdress wrote...

The only thing I wish with the Garrus romance is for Shep and him to get more enthusiaztic about reuniting. ME2 did it too, them meeting again after forever is always very... "Oh hey... sup?"Posted Image *handshakes of doom*


Mmh. Have to disagree on that one. In ME2, Garrus is exhausted. He's been fighting for days without sleep. If anything, I'm surprised he didn't freak out when Shep showed up, wondered if his mind was tricking him or something like that. I think his reaction is as enthusiastic as it can be.

In ME3, Palaven is burning. His homeworld, where he grew up. I can't see him getting all cheerful, even when his beloved shows up. Besides, he's the professional kind of guy, they were surrounded by a whole bunch of military people. That handshake was the sweetest gesture I have ever seen, in a way. It screamed "I'm happy to see you. Really, really happy. But you know, now is not the time."

Edit: Rilan, will do. :) I'll just change her haircut.

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