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[Rebel666]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

The first picture makes me feel a bit guilty for romancing Garrus, he and Shep are obviously never gonna be able to have kids, and I don't know how'd they decide between a turian or human baby. He'd make such a great dad...

I actually wrote a story about the "What If" Shepard got pregnant. I'm working on the rest of the series. I know it's impossible for it to happen but... what if the Lazerus Project somehow augmented her body enough to become suseptable to turian dna... hmmm...

Impossibilities

[ekurian]

Rebel666 wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

The first picture makes me feel a bit guilty for romancing Garrus, he and Shep are obviously never gonna be able to have kids, and I don't know how'd they decide between a turian or human baby. He'd make such a great dad...

I actually wrote a story about the "What If" Shepard got pregnant. I'm working on the rest of the series. I know it's impossible for it to happen but... what if the Lazerus Project somehow augmented her body enough to become suseptable to turian dna... hmmm...

Impossibilities

They could always adopt My Shep would totally adopt a little baby
hooman and a baby turian. And she'd marry Garrus- hell, she'd probably
be the one doing the asking xD

Now there's a thought- what would a
turian wedding be like? Do they even have weddings? How would Garrus
react to Shep asking him to marry her? DISCUSS.

I want a 'happily
ever after' epilogue for my Garrus and Shep. BABIES AND MARRIAGE.
SUPPORT EQUALITY. (My Shep is crazy and would likely have a whole home
full of alien adoptees. KROGAN BABY.)

[Turian-Garrus92]

Rebel666 wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

The first picture makes me feel a bit guilty for romancing Garrus, he and Shep are obviously never gonna be able to have kids, and I don't know how'd they decide between a turian or human baby. He'd make such a great dad...

I actually wrote a story about the "What If" Shepard got pregnant. I'm working on the rest of the series. I know it's impossible for it to happen but... what if the Lazerus Project somehow augmented her body enough to become suseptable to turian dna... hmmm...

Impossibilities

Just read Impossibilities and i love it.... was really good

Nice job...

[Fata Morgana]

ekurian wrote...

Hey, Bioware gave us the option to have all squadmates, Shepard and the Normandy crew survive the Collector base due to preparation.
You can bet that loads of people are going to die in ME3, but I'm sure there will be the option to at least keep all of your squaddies

Bioware did indeed allow a scenario in 2 where everyone lives.

But don't forget that they also wrote Virmire.

I have a feeling that the stakes are too high in 3, that some people you care about WILL die, because you will be asked to make a choice, possibly many choices.

Or, it might be that it will be possible to avoid Virmire choices by doing a lot of sidequests in 1 & 2.  Thus all my cannon runs are 100% completion runs.

[ekurian]

Fata Morgana wrote...

ekurian wrote...

Hey, Bioware gave us the option to have all squadmates, Shepard and the Normandy crew survive the Collector base due to preparation.
You can bet that loads of people are going to die in ME3, but I'm sure there will be the option to at least keep all of your squaddies

Bioware did indeed allow a scenario in 2 where everyone lives.

But don't forget that they also wrote Virmire.

I have a feeling that the stakes are too high in 3, that some people you care about WILL die, because you will be asked to make a choice, possibly many choices.

Or, it might be that it will be possible to avoid Virmire choices by doing a lot of sidequests in 1 & 2.  Thus all my cannon runs are 100% completion runs.

Oh gosh Virmire ripped my heart out on my first run D: was totally not expecting that.

And I do exactly the same! I replay so many times to make sure I 'get it right'.

[k8ee]

outmane wrote...

k8ee wrote...
*snip*.

Ill go with that too. 

I also find it fair and in character that Garrus would risk his life/ go out in a blaze for something/someone he holds dear. Hes a very impulsive character, has been known to not backdown when he believes hes doing the right thing (omega) and hes often impulsive. After 2 games, most Shepards should know how he usually reacts and be able to prevent him from giving his life away if they want to.

Yes... I can totally see Garrus doing something noble/stupid. I can imagine a scene where Shepard has to choose to save Garrus over several other people (civilians or whatnot) - the reasoning being Garrus is more valuable in the fight against the reapers. It could happen vice versa too.

Maybe he thinks Shepard gives a bad order, (maybe he can tell she's trying to protect him), disobeys it and almost gets himself killed. Whoa then Kaidan could be like, hey I hear you and Garrus are on the outs... so I'm showing up at your cabin door so you can tell me about it. Then enter Garrus stage left...

Sorry, I got a little carried away there.

[ekurian]

k8ee wrote...

outmane wrote...

k8ee wrote...
*snip*.

Ill go with that too. 

I also find it fair and in character that Garrus would risk his life/ go out in a blaze for something/someone he holds dear. Hes a very impulsive character, has been known to not backdown when he believes hes doing the right thing (omega) and hes often impulsive. After 2 games, most Shepards should know how he usually reacts and be able to prevent him from giving his life away if they want to.

Yes... I can totally see Garrus doing something noble/stupid. I can imagine a scene where Shepard has to choose to save Garrus over several other people (civilians or whatnot) - the reasoning being Garrus is more valuable in the fight against the reapers. It could happen vice versa too.

Maybe he thinks Shepard gives a bad order, (maybe he can tell she's trying to protect him), disobeys it and almost gets himself killed. Whoa then Kaidan could be like, hey I hear you and Garrus are on the outs... so I'm showing up at your cabin door so you can tell me about it. Then enter Garrus stage left...

Sorry, I got a little carried away there.

I'm really looking forward to how they'll address the ME1 vs ME2 romances.

I actually romanced Kaidan because Garrus wasn't romanceable xD Imagine my glee when I found out that he was in ME2.

And can romancing somone else in ME2 be classed as cheating? I mean, Shepard died. I suppose it's a bit different if you romanced Liara, because she's the one who got Shep back. But with Kaidan and Ash, they have that whole RAEG moment on Horizon (which was ttly not Bioware going 'DUN WORREH CHECK OUT THE NEW TAIL INSTEAD' /sarcasm).

[outmane]

Having died has little to do with Shepard "cheating". Its all about who your Shep feels commited to. Sheps death would affect the VS staying faithful more then Shep himself who was dead/unconscious anyway.

[k8ee]

True enough... though it was never really explained if there was a relationship after their night together, Kaidan was obviously fond of Shep, but one night together doesn't mean love. Same with Shep's relationship with Garrus.

Maybe Shep is the kind of woman who likes to see how someone is in bed before investing in a relationship. Ah hahaha.I joke.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

I think both Shepard and Garrus both care about each other, but they are both the kind of people to take a relationship slow in terms of emotions. Which is why I am dubious about whether the 'L' word will come out between them in ME3.

[outmane]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

I think both Shepard and Garrus both care about each other, but they are both the kind of people to take a relationship slow in terms of emotions. Which is why I am dubious about whether the 'L' word will come out between them in ME3.

While i dont see Garrus saying it lightly, once the relationship is clear (and we know with VS coming back that might be complicating things) i dont think he would restrain from saying it. I mean, he doesnt have commitment issues (even with a friend Shep hes very loyal). 

But as a player i dont need to hear it. Garrus is good enough to find other ways to make his feelings about Shepard clear so im not worry.  Something i would really like to hear from Garrus is a confirmation hes really happy in this interspecies relationship. We know he had a hard time wrapping his head around that and he can be a bit passive and just say yes to Shep to keep her happy. 

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

I think there is an easy contentment between the two. A trusting respect for the other, and they don't feel the need to go around making ridiculous gestures of love for one another, or blaring out how they feel about the other at the top of their lungs.

Modifié par Tasha vas Nar Rayya, 28 juillet 2011 - 09:21 .

[outmane]

Like you say. With the way the romance arc evolved fthrough ME to ME2, its not a <teenage love> thing.

[k8ee]

yeah, cheesy acts of love... and the 'L' word in general just don't fit. Actions speak louder than words and all that. I just.... god... march is so far away. I'm taking a week off work when this game comes out. Just me, a blanket, a glass of wine and mass effect 3.

HELL YES. What month is it?

[Leonia]

You're going to need a whole bottle of Garrus to get through this

[AlphaDormante]

Story time!

So over the weekend I kidnapped my best friend and sat her down for a Mass Effect marathon. She'd never even heard of the series before then, so she went into it completely blind, and I did my best to keep from influencing her decisions so that the story would be her own. I even managed to suppress the urge to cry out my love for Garrus...at least until we got to ME2.

Yeah, then my cover was blown. Best Friend quickly caught on and started poking fun at me; she liked Garrus, but had romanced Liara before and was quickly developing an interest in Thane. It was strange for me to sit through a playthrough that didn't end in FemShep/Garrus, but at least this way I'd get to see what a ME3 playthrough was like without him!

Then, as we neared the end of the game, I noticed that she started taking him on almost every mission; on the SM, when I suggested either Garrus or Jacob for fire team leader, she frowned and said that she wanted Garrus to be with her. She then did so, and kept him all the way until the final boss.

Remember the final cutscene where the platform topples and a squadmate falls down it? That ended up being Garrus. Best Friend was quiet right up until the moment Shepard lost grip of his hand - and then she jumped in her seat and yelled. Of course, Garrus was fine, but Best Friend turned to me and said very seriously:

"Oh my god, I was going to punch a hole into your monitor. Right there, I'm not even kidding."

The moral of this story? Make sure Garrus never dies, because even people who don't romance him will damage your property if he does

[Skits]

Hahaha that's awesome. XD Even when not romanced, the Garrus Bromance still remains strong!

[ciaweth]

AlphaDormante wrote...

Story time!

So over the weekend I kidnapped my best friend and sat her down for a Mass Effect marathon. She'd never even heard of the series before then, so she went into it completely blind, and I did my best to keep from influencing her decisions so that the story would be her own. I even managed to suppress the urge to cry out my love for Garrus...at least until we got to ME2.

Yeah, then my cover was blown. Best Friend quickly caught on and started poking fun at me; she liked Garrus, but had romanced Liara before and was quickly developing an interest in Thane. It was strange for me to sit through a playthrough that didn't end in FemShep/Garrus, but at least this way I'd get to see what a ME3 playthrough was like without him!

Then, as we neared the end of the game, I noticed that she started taking him on almost every mission; on the SM, when I suggested either Garrus or Jacob for fire team leader, she frowned and said that she wanted Garrus to be with her. She then did so, and kept him all the way until the final boss.

Remember the final cutscene where the platform topples and a squadmate falls down it? That ended up being Garrus. Best Friend was quiet right up until the moment Shepard lost grip of his hand - and then she jumped in her seat and yelled. Of course, Garrus was fine, but Best Friend turned to me and said very seriously:

"Oh my god, I was going to punch a hole into your monitor. Right there, I'm not even kidding."

The moral of this story? Make sure Garrus never dies, because even people who don't romance him will damage your property if he does

This is a beautiful story. 

[Tootles FTW]

Outmane wrote...
I also find it fair and in character that Garrus would risk his life/ go out in a blaze for something/someone he holds dear.

This just made me hella nervous. I always have Garrus in my party, but what if that leads to an unintentional (on my part) event, a la Alistair in DA:O if you bring him to the Archdemon fight without doing the Dark Ritual. I would scream an epic "NO!" if they cut to Garrus pushing me out of the way in a stupid but completely romantic gesture of self-sacrifice.... ..... ..... THAT'S IT, Garrus, yer staying on the ship!!!

In the same vein, I hope Shep has an option to die in the finale (while saving the lives of the squaddies) if only so I can revel in the angst. Shepard dying > Garrus dying.

[Leonia]

Right there with ya, Tootles. I'll take Shepard dieing over Garrus any day of the week, if only because I care a teensy bit more about Garrus than my own version of Shepard. Though I am a bit nervous about having Garrus as my "permanent" squad-mate throughout ME3 like the last two games, it's hard to say how much control we will have over major events.

[Skits]

As long as there's choices for how the game ends, I'll be happy. I'm cool with the possibility of characters dying if you don't do things a certain way, like the suicide mission, and even with Virmire you had a -choice- of who to keep and who to lose. You had to lose SOMEONE yeah, but at least you got to choose which one. What I won't be happy about is if they kill characters off with absolutely no way to avoid it.

But I don't think Bioware will do that. So it's all good.

[Tootles FTW]

@Skits - yea, I don't care if Garrus can die as an OPTION, I just don't want to be slapped with an unavoidable death if he's simply in my party. If I make stupid mistakes in my game chioces, okay, but don't punish us with something we'd have to meta-game to prevent or foresee. (And yes, I know that's "unrealistic" in wartime, but I don't play games to be miserable!)

If they have an optional Garrus death scene I hope hope hope it's more personal then the one-liner we get on the Collector's Base. I want him to acknowledge the difference between friend/lover Shep in his dying gurgles, and I want an actual reaction from Shepard. I know the dev's are hesitant to make Shep too emotional, but certain events call for *something* other than a brief bowed head.

[Skits]

Yeah, if they DO kill off characters I certainly want more reaction to their deaths, at the moment AND afterwards. Especially if said death was Shep's LI. On the other hand though, I don't want anything too dramatic or over the top or impractical. If a death happens in the middle of a fight, I don't want Shep waxing poetical or melodramatic - there's no time for that in battle. Save it for afterwards. XD

Thinking about it now though... Garrus' death-line at the doors was fairly unique. Most of the others, if I remember correctly, made some comment about "too many" and "shields failing". Garrus however didn't make any excuses - he just apologised for letting Shep down and asked her to keep on fighting. "Sorry, Shepard, looks like I won't be with you at the end... Snipe one for me, will you?" Which really works for him, both as romance and bromance, I think.

[k8ee]

Here is a question... is there anyone you would save over Garrus?

You can't save both (Virmire flash back) Whic do you choose?

Garrus or.....
Legion?
Mordin?
Joker?
Dr Chakwas?
Anderson?
Tali?
Two squadmates?
Three squadmates?
Four squadmates?
Ten civilians?
Fifty civilians?
A hundred civilians?
Yourself?

A whole planet?

[outmane]

Wether i would save Garrus from death really depends on the situation for me.

If were on a mission then i'd do my best to leave no squaddie behind. Saving civilians is noble and all but not doing it at the expense of the team working for you. Yes, Shepard is there to help and will take risks (for her and her team), but there are many missions i would accept to see having less good results because I took care of my team, short of the final battle against the Reapers.

If its a planned suicide mission then its a bit diffrent. I  know many players would send their less liked squaddie to die but i dont think my main Shep would send anyone she doesnt fully trust on that kind of mission. So it will really depend who we have on our team in ME3. Garrus, Mordin and Legion are the ones i would trust to not hesitate to do what must be done in ME2. In ME3 maybe the VS. I hope my Shep finds other characters she can trust with high risk missions so i can keep Garrus alive of course.

Also, its not all about death. Squaddies can simply leave you if you choose to oppose them too much. I cant wait to see on what grounds Garrus would oppose Shepard. We havent seen him be patriotic so far. Maybe that will change.