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hmm...

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CrazyIvan93 wrote...

..........I withdraw my "racist" statement ._____.

sorry ;_;


Guess it does seem like the thread ganged up on you a bit there lol. No reason to be ashamed/embarrased as I stated before Ashley's 'racism' is really misrepresented by the fanbase so it's easy to mistake her mistrust for hatred.

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That's not...it better not be...it,it can't...

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*Is a lorik fangirl*

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CrazyIvan93 wrote...
..........I withdraw my "racist" statement ._____.

sorry ;_;

Heh, that's ok, don't worry about it. I called her racist several times before some people helped me see the light :D

I absolutely loved her in ME1. Sure, she has her issues, but she also has hobbies, passions, and a strong personality. She was very well-written. No offense to Kaidan, I liked him too, but he was a little bland next to her.

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outmane wrote...

I jsut took Liara and Tali as examples of 'having better things to do'  to contrast with what they did to, for xamples, Miranda, who as been all about humanity and whose sister we already saved once, and  Jacob whose excuse turs out to be 'Sorry Shepard, the writers gave me a girlfriend between the 2 games, so I guess I should go hang out with her'. Some characters have the most unatural reasons to not be around and others with good reasons jsut get to use the 'its the reapers' excuse. It felt pretty bipolar to me.


Especially with Miranda, it seems like she should have been on the Normandy. There probably isn't a much better place to hide from Cerberus and figure all that stuff out. That's why Liara said she was tagging along- Cerberus destroyed the Shadow Broker's ship.

Not that the Normandy's the most discrete place in the world for an information broker to hide. I guess Illium wasn't really, either.

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I admit it, part of the reason I wanted Ash back in ME3 was so she'd comment on my Garrusmance and maybe revisit the 'kiss a turian' dialogue. Turns out she doesn't even notice. So disappointed with what they did with her (or rather, all that they didn't do). :(

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potsi1711 wrote...
I have to say the biggest istake I made in the game (aside from finishing ME3 and seeing it's ending) was letting Ash die on Virmire.  If I had known just how much of a tool Kaidan was going to be, the Virmire decision would have been much easier.  That being said, I know Ash pretty much does what Kaiden does, but at least I wouldn't have to deal with her hitting on my character. (someday I'll replay it and fix things)


Having played ME3 once with Ash and once with Kaidan, I have to say I actually prefer Kaidan to Ash.  That being said, I never got ninjamanced once by Kaidan, in ME1 or ME3, though part of that is knowing what to avoid.  I found Ash so much more abrasive in ME3 than Kaidan.

It's ok, though, Garrus is awesomer than both of them combined.

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Hyrule_Gal wrote...

*Is a lorik fangirl*


Lorik is my favorite Turian who isn't Garrus. My heart skipped a beat when he e-mailed me in the second game!

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Allow me to tell my story of how I mourned the ending to Mass Effect 3 and Garrus last week. Now, I have never considered myself to be so hardcore into gaming that I lost touch with reality; but, with investing five years of my life into Mass Effect’s story, I was obliterated by the ending. I was especially obliterated when I realized that I wasn’t getting an ending where Garrus and I had a beach wedding. So, in order to properly mourn mass effect 3’s ending, myself and two other girlfriends (friend1 and friend2) dedicated our night to mourning the crew.

First things first, we decided that each important member of the game deserved a shot in their honor. Upon careful consideration, our summation added up to 21 shots, 7 for the each of us. We managed to
achieve this goal through friend2’s 50 year old Serbian brandy that her grandfather made and a gay bar’s weekday deal of $12 long island ice tea pitchers.

After a few drinks, you could tell that each of us mourned the game in a different way. I continually shouted out Garrus’ name while friend1 stared stoically at a wall and reflected on her lost crew. Friend1 felt my pain and drew me a picture of Garrus saying, “Stephanie Shepard ILU let’s have krogan bbs.” I then wrote on one of the bar’s business cards, “BRING GARRUS BACK NOW!!!” Except many of my exclamation points were incomplete or upside down.

After a few more drinks I met a guy named Garrett and continually asked him if he was sure that his named wasn’t Garrus because I was desperate to be delusional on his existence. Even though I wasn’t able to lose myself in that way, I managed to find a wall that I, at the time, believed was sufficient enough to be Garrus because I then hugged the wall and called it Garrus. Friend1 broke her stoic stare and continually to shout “WHY?!”

I spent the next 30 minutes dancing poorly as Commander Shepard would. And finally, as my final salute to the ME3 crew I accomplished what Jacob promised Shepard they would do if they survived their final mission. We would get loud and spill some drinks on the Citadel. So, I took my drink, raised it above me and shouted, “To my homies on the Normandy, let’s get loud and spill some drinks on the Citadel.” And then I threw my drink to the ground and pretended the bar was at the Citadel.

I don’t remember much after that but I did throw up, probably because of a mixture between intoxication and obsessive grief. However, I just wanted Bioware to know that I dedicated a night of grief to the piece
of trash they called an ending. Feel free to check out the pictures of what went down during my night of obsessive fandom depression.
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I personally cried myself to sleep and spent the following month ranting on BSN, with this lovely thread and all its wonderful people to keep me relatively sane on the side.

Seriously, guys. I love you all.

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Having played ME3 once with Ash and once with Kaidan, I have to say I actually prefer Kaidan to Ash.  That being said, I never got ninjamanced once by Kaidan, in ME1 or ME3, though part of that is knowing what to avoid.  I found Ash so much more abrasive in ME3 than Kaidan.

It's ok, though, Garrus is awesomer than both of them combined.


Really? Are they really that different and Ash is that bad?  I didn't never got ninjamanced but I've heard of people who did... especially in ME1.  I kind of saved my renegade responses for kaiden, let him back on the ship, but never talked to/used him.  I was considering saving ash on a repeat playthrough... but now Idk. 

But you're right about Garrus.  Best character in the game (my opinion).:D

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CrazyIvan93 wrote...

..........I withdraw my "racist" statement ._____.

sorry ;_;


Guess it does seem like the thread ganged up on you a bit there lol. No reason to be ashamed/embarrased as I stated before Ashley's 'racism' is really misrepresented by the fanbase so it's easy to mistake her mistrust for hatred.


The best comparaison to Ashley's attitude you can find actually comes from the discussion with primarch Victus. At some point, after Sheaprd asks him to reveal why he sent his son on a secret mission on Tuchanka, he asks Shep 'Would you be open about a secret that could compromise Earth's safty?' The paragon answer talks about collaboration and being in the same boat but the renegade option is pretty much what ashley says in ME1: No offense, but I would wathc for my species first. And Victus answers 'well you know why Im not telling then'. Meaning, he sees things jsut like Ashley did, his duty is to protect his own first.

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CrazyIvan93 wrote...

..........I withdraw my "racist" statement ._____.

sorry ;_;


Don't worry about it.  I thought the same thing more or less when she spoke to me about her "concerns".  I always thought if it came down to choosing between Garrus/Wrex/Tali, and her that I would be willing to let her go.  Sadly It didn't ME didn't give me that option... then she got Virmired (though not for that reason ...  more like I didn't know what I was doing). :unsure: Oh well.

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Mistress Melon wrote...

Allow me to tell my story of how I mourned the ending to Mass Effect 3 and Garrus last week. Now, I have never considered myself to be so hardcore into gaming that I lost touch with reality; but, with investing five years of my life into Mass Effect’s story, I was obliterated by the ending. I was especially obliterated when I realized that I wasn’t getting an ending where Garrus and I had a beach wedding. So, in order to properly mourn mass effect 3’s ending, myself and two other girlfriends (friend1 and friend2) dedicated our night to mourning the crew.

First things first, we decided that each important member of the game deserved a shot in their honor. Upon careful consideration, our summation added up to 21 shots, 7 for the each of us. We managed to
achieve this goal through friend2’s 50 year old Serbian brandy that her grandfather made and a gay bar’s weekday deal of $12 long island ice tea pitchers.

After a few drinks, you could tell that each of us mourned the game in a different way. I continually shouted out Garrus’ name while friend1 stared stoically at a wall and reflected on her lost crew. Friend1 felt my pain and drew me a picture of Garrus saying, “Stephanie Shepard ILU let’s have krogan bbs.” I then wrote on one of the bar’s business cards, “BRING GARRUS BACK NOW!!!” Except many of my exclamation points were incomplete or upside down.

After a few more drinks I met a guy named Garrett and continually asked him if he was sure that his named wasn’t Garrus because I was desperate to be delusional on his existence. Even though I wasn’t able to lose myself in that way, I managed to find a wall that I, at the time, believed was sufficient enough to be Garrus because I then hugged the wall and called it Garrus. Friend1 broke her stoic stare and continually to shout “WHY?!”

I spent the next 30 minutes dancing poorly as Commander Shepard would. And finally, as my final salute to the ME3 crew I accomplished what Jacob promised Shepard they would do if they survived their final mission. We would get loud and spill some drinks on the Citadel. So, I took my drink, raised it above me and shouted, “To my homies on the Normandy, let’s get loud and spill some drinks on the Citadel.” And then I threw my drink to the ground and pretended the bar was at the Citadel.

I don’t remember much after that but I did throw up, probably because of a mixture between intoxication and obsessive grief. However, I just wanted Bioware to know that I dedicated a night of grief to the piece
of trash they called an ending. Feel free to check out the pictures of what went down during my night of obsessive fandom depression.
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That note is <3 <3 <3.

I wish you had gotten your beach wedding. I, too, know I have done little else with myself since the game came out. I've been putting off mourning how my crew ran off without me, but when I do, I'm drinking this: www.thedrunkenmoogle.com/post/1204475764/ryncol-mass-effect-2-cocktail-ingredients-1-oz.

I'm going to get sloppy Grunt drunk.

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

potsi1711 wrote...
I have to say the biggest istake I made in the game (aside from finishing ME3 and seeing it's ending) was letting Ash die on Virmire.  If I had known just how much of a tool Kaidan was going to be, the Virmire decision would have been much easier.  That being said, I know Ash pretty much does what Kaiden does, but at least I wouldn't have to deal with her hitting on my character. (someday I'll replay it and fix things)


Having played ME3 once with Ash and once with Kaidan, I have to say I actually prefer Kaidan to Ash.  That being said, I never got ninjamanced once by Kaidan, in ME1 or ME3, though part of that is knowing what to avoid.  I found Ash so much more abrasive in ME3 than Kaidan.

It's ok, though, Garrus is awesomer than both of them combined.


I would say that it might do a big diffrence if you romanced the VS or not. Its always weird to have your ex around.

Also, it seems Kaidan wants to be on the Normandy more then Ash but I also feel he never trust you completly again (even for a faithful romance he wants to take things slow) whereas Ashley goes easily into 'soldier mode' and is even making jokes about fallowing you eventually.

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I want a beach wedding! With a sunset backdrop . And I want Garrus in a cute groom outfit and I want my femshep to wear a beautiful dress...and I want turians playing "somewhere over the rainbow" on steel pans...

I've had time to think about this TT_TT

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Karrie788 wrote...

I personally cried myself to sleep and spent the following month ranting on BSN, with this lovely thread and all its wonderful people to keep me relatively sane on the side.

Seriously, guys. I love you all.


There, there.... I know exactly what you mean.... When I got to the ending and the sad music started playing, I lost it... I couldnt hold it in.. i just remembered what Garrus told me and I just cried my ass off... then i was like "WTF? LIARA???" (the flashback that was random)...then as an extra punch in the gut.. Buzz Aldrin basically reminded me by saying "Hey, aliens are out there and there plenty of adventures to be had, but HA HA you wont live long enough to meet them!". That is basically how i took the speech... Im a xenophile and Im gay for Garrus (bi for turians, but straight IRL, idk why turians are sexy). You dont know how much I wish aliens were already met.

With that being said, i took a moral the wrong way, got to see Garrus stranded, and just completely broke down six times the following day everytime I thought about Garrus and the music... I went through a whole box of Kleenix in a day for pete's sake...

Then i vented/ranted with my friends that felt the same way and was one of the first hundred people to join Retake Mass Effect 3 and was so happy to see the numbers skyrocket. But of course, I cant ask for a better, more understanding, and just plain awesomer (i know thats not a word) community. I love you guys so much :crying:

FOR PALAVEN!:crying:
FOR GARRUS!<3

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Karrie788 wrote...

I personally cried myself to sleep and spent the following month ranting on BSN, with this lovely thread and all its wonderful people to keep me relatively sane on the side.

Seriously, guys. I love you all.


I didn't sleep the night I finished the game (was glued to the forums looking for answers) and cried myself to sleep the next night, so yeah, I understand.

I <3 you guys too.

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Karrie788 wrote...

I personally cried myself to sleep and spent the following month ranting on BSN, with this lovely thread and all its wonderful people to keep me relatively sane on the side.

Seriously, guys. I love you all.


Merci!

Here have a friendship Garrus

http://t1.gstatic.co...J_hJqkhvWmi4VQ 

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In my first playthrough, I didn't romance Garrus but saying goodbye to him in London was really hard.

I had no idea that saying goodbye to him after having romanced him would be so much worse. I must have cried for some 10-15 minutes after their convo. Turned ME3 off last night afterwards and.... I don't know if I want to even beat the game now. :(

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CrazyIvan93 wrote...Im a xenophile and Im gay for Garrus (bi for turians, but straight IRL, idk why turians are sexy). You dont know how much I wish aliens were already met.

It's a well known fact that everyone, yes even the women, are gay for Garrus.

Seriously though, for me it's more of a case of being gay for turians and since we didn't get to see any female turians (insert fanboy nerdrage here) being gay for Garrus is all that I got.

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outmane wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

I personally cried myself to sleep and spent the following month ranting on BSN, with this lovely thread and all its wonderful people to keep me relatively sane on the side.

Seriously, guys. I love you all.


Merci!

Here have a friendship Garrus

http://t1.gstatic.co...J_hJqkhvWmi4VQ 


De rien ! :lol:

That pic is freaking cute. <3

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Esoretal wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

I personally cried myself to sleep and spent the following month ranting on BSN, with this lovely thread and all its wonderful people to keep me relatively sane on the side.

Seriously, guys. I love you all.


I didn't sleep the night I finished the game (was glued to the forums looking for answers) and cried myself to sleep the next night, so yeah, I understand.

I <3 you guys too.


+1

Except I ranted to a friend who felt the same heartbreak as I did. Because that's basically what it all feels like...heartbreak. I really wanted my Shepard to have a family with Garrus, and I wanted Garrus to be happy. :crying:

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So...curious, how many people have actually played ME3 more than once? Even though I hate the endings I'm on my 4th playthrough. I love the game overall. And Garrus.

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Deviant Ingredient wrote...

So...curious, how many people have actually played ME3 more than once? Even though I hate the endings I'm on my 4th playthrough. I love the game overall. And Garrus.

Nope, can't do it. It just feels... pointless.

The entire game is only bearable if I know there's a good ending. Otherwise even at the very beginning it's just soul-crushingly depressing. I don't need that.

I'll reopen my saves every now and then and play out the Citadel date or the post-Thessia pep talk, though. <3