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DiabolicReality wrote...

-- I had to facepalm a bit at the babieessss at the end.

--However, when it comes to heartfelt conversation and confessions time, Garrus cracks a line about Shepard having 'needed some time to sort things out' etc.


Why facepalm?

Secondly, it's basically a pure gameplay element. They needed a clear flag for people to know "this is the point of no return" for the relationship flagging.

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Bluumberry wrote...

DiabolicReality wrote...

-- I had to facepalm a bit at the babieessss at the end.

--However, when it comes to heartfelt conversation and confessions time, Garrus cracks a line about Shepard having 'needed some time to sort things out' etc.


Why facepalm?

Secondly, it's basically a pure gameplay element. They needed a clear flag for people to know "this is the point of no return" for the relationship flagging.


The cool thing about the babies convo is that you can totally disagree wiht the idea ingame and not act like an ass about it.

You dont want babies? Than jsut say so and  joke about both not being parent material. It doesnttake your player choice away.

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outmane wrote...

Welcome fellow Garrus fan!

We suspect that this line is inthere becasue many players have had a initial romance in ME1 and it accounts for Garrus giving you time to make things clear with the ME1 LI. Of course, it makes no sense for the Shepards who saved themselves for Garrus until ME2. But since its a very small portion of players, the writers might not have took it into consideration.

In other words, they needed a reason to make Garrus ask Shep if they were 'really together' (mandatory player choice moment) and they figured it would be easier to tack it on that way.


Thank you thank you.

And, ah, I suppose that makes sense. Even though my Shepard didn't romance anyone in ME1... Well, I can live with that.


Karrie788 wrote...

Hey DiabolicReality! Always nice to see
new people. As for your question, I assumed that Garrus' line about
figuring them out was more about committing to each other, making their
relationship official, rather than just sleeping together. I dunno,
that's how I saw it anyways.



Hi hi!

That's what I was thinking first too, but it didn't really work with how my Shepard does things so I came looking for another solution, haha.


Bluumberry wrote...

Why facepalm?

Secondly, it's
basically a pure gameplay element. They needed a clear flag for people
to know "this is the point of no return" for the relationship flagging.



Facepalm because I didn't think that babies was the first thing you'd mention when you've established a relationship with someone pretty recently. Sort of like dating someone seriously for a few months and then they ask you if you'd like to have kids with them at some point. I thought it was cute in the game, but yeah, hold your horses man.

And yup, I do realize it is a 'flag' point. I was just confused by how it was written in because it sort of seemed out of synch with the previous conversations :]

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DiabolicReality wrote...
Facepalm because I didn't think that babies was the first thing you'd mention when you've established a relationship with someone pretty recently. Sort of like dating someone seriously for a few months and then they ask you if you'd like to have kids with them at some point. I thought it was cute in the game, but yeah, hold your horses man.


That's true, then again, it's war, they both know it, and they realize they may very well be dead the next day - or, as it so happens in Shepard's case, the next hour - and things tend to move... fast in those kinds of situation, I guess. You look for something hopeful in total despair.

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Karrie788 wrote...

That's true, then again, it's war, they both know it, and they realize they may very well be dead the next day - or, as it so happens in Shepard's case, the next hour - and things tend to move... fast in those kinds of situation, I guess. You look for something hopeful in total despair.



I did actually see it as some last moment "I love you let's talk/joke about something happy cuz we might die and it hurts to think about losing you" banter in their case, but I'm just that kinda girl who sort of goes DOH the moment there is talk about babies all of a sudden. I can't help it xD

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DiabolicReality wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

That's true, then again, it's war, they both know it, and they realize they may very well be dead the next day - or, as it so happens in Shepard's case, the next hour - and things tend to move... fast in those kinds of situation, I guess. You look for something hopeful in total despair.



I did actually see it as some last moment "I love you let's talk/joke about something happy cuz we might die and it hurts to think about losing you" banter in their case, but I'm just that kinda girl who sort of goes DOH the moment there is talk about babies all of a sudden. I can't help it xD


With all the death forshadowing (after a few goodbyes, its pretty clear where things are headed), I took it as away of saying 'I jsut wanted you to know I would have wanted to make my life with you' more then some real planning ahead 'lets set a date onthe calendar for those babies' kinda talk.

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I just want to see turian babies. And turian babes of course.

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Willing to bet that turian babies are 100 times cuter than any other babies. Pygmy turians, yessss.


Didn't some dev say that female and male turians are really difficult to tell apart because they look the same? As lazy and cheap as that may be, I am willing to accept this gladly as long as the bald turian woman from that one comic isn't canon.

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DiabolicReality wrote...

Willing to bet that turian babies are 100 times cuter than any other babies. Pygmy turians, yessss.


Didn't some dev say that female and male turians are really difficult to tell apart because they look the same? As lazy and cheap as that may be, I am willing to accept this gladly as long as the bald turian woman from that one comic isn't canon.


DEAL!

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DiabolicReality wrote...

Didn't some dev say that female and male turians are really difficult to tell apart because they look the same? As lazy and cheap as that may be, I am willing to accept this gladly as long as the bald turian woman from that one comic isn't canon.


This is the main reason why the lack of female turians in the game makes no sense to me. The dev’s keep saying it’s because of resource limitations and then say that it’s easy for them to have female humans and asari or batarians and human males in the same area because they share the same assets except for the head model. Surely the same could be said for female turians if in terms of body structure there’s not much difference, all they’d have to do is tweak the turian head models.

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outmane wrote...

The cool thing about the babies convo is that you can totally disagree wiht the idea ingame and not act like an ass about it.

You dont want babies? Than jsut say so and  joke about both not being parent material. It doesnttake your player choice away.

Agreed, I thought the way they handled that worked really well.

I didn't get the feeling he was bringing it up purely as a joke. Obviously there was joking there, but I don't think you can really compare his state of mind to someone in a normal relationship. The impending doom has a way of messing around with someone's priorities. The idea that there might not be a future for them at all might make them both think about all the things they've missed out on.

Of course, I don't consider them really in a brand new relationship anyway. They did things out of order a bit so they both know each other way better than most people who have been 'officially dating' as long as they have. I think it wouldn't be that weird for them to commit to each other that soon.

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

I didn't get the feeling he was bringing it up purely as a joke. Obviously there was joking there, but I don't think you can really compare his state of mind to someone in a normal relationship. The impending doom has a way of messing around with someone's priorities. The idea that there might not be a future for them at all might make them both think about all the things they've missed out on.

Of course, I don't consider them really in a brand new relationship anyway. They did things out of order a bit so they both know each other way better than most people who have been 'officially dating' as long as they have. I think it wouldn't be that weird for them to commit to each other that soon.


This.

It comes across even more when he brings up children during the citadel breakup. He has been thinking long term since the beginning.

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Karrie788 wrote...
Edit: On absolutely completely unrelated news, I just got a message from Miranda on the datapad app. Just "Good luck". That is so her. Ugh, I miss her as a squadmate.


I miss her SOOOO much.  Not that I don't love my ME3 girls--Tali and Liara are adorable and sweet and wonderful--but Miri felt like an equal from the get-go in a way that no other character did.  

Aris Ravenstar wrote...
Of course, I don't consider them really in a brand new relationship anyway. They did things out of order a bit so they both know each other way better than most people who have been 'officially dating' as long as they have. I think it wouldn't be that weird for them to commit to each other that soon.

 

This.  Shep and Garrus have been friends for years now, had each other's backs through hell and back twice.  I think once they sort out their feelings, it doesn't take them long to work out the commitment.  Because platonic or romantic, there's some serious commitment already if Garrus is willing to undertake three suicide missions for Shep.

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Argraharg wrote...

I just want to see turian babies. And turian babes of course.


THIS^^^^^^^^^:wub:

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...


Aris Ravenstar wrote...
Of course, I don't consider them really in a brand new relationship anyway. They did things out of order a bit so they both know each other way better than most people who have been 'officially dating' as long as they have. I think it wouldn't be that weird for them to commit to each other that soon.

 

This.  Shep and Garrus have been friends for years now, had each other's backs through hell and back twice.  I think once they sort out their feelings, it doesn't take them long to work out the commitment.  Because platonic or romantic, there's some serious commitment already if Garrus is willing to undertake three suicide missions for Shep.


This.

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Sialater wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...


Aris Ravenstar wrote...
Of course, I don't consider them really in a brand new relationship anyway. They did things out of order a bit so they both know each other way better than most people who have been 'officially dating' as long as they have. I think it wouldn't be that weird for them to commit to each other that soon.

 

This.  Shep and Garrus have been friends for years now, had each other's backs through hell and back twice.  I think once they sort out their feelings, it doesn't take them long to work out the commitment.  Because platonic or romantic, there's some serious commitment already if Garrus is willing to undertake three suicide missions for Shep.


This.

Seconded.

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So question. How did you guys feel when you first knew you could romance Garrus?

I didn't realise until I was playing the game.

I can remember while playing the first one thinking how cool it would be to romance Garrus or Tali. But I chose Liara in that playthrough. (I like the aliens!)

Then I can remember playing and having the reach and flexibility conversation. I took it t first because I thought it would be funny to wind Garrus up.

When he actually said yes my jaw dropped!

And playthrough number two started (I still really liked Liara, didnt want to cheat on her) and it became my main playthrough. And now when I play a new femshep, even if I promise myself I will try a new romance I just... can't!

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It's funny, actually. Initially I romanced him to get the Paramour achievement. :lol:

I wasn't a big Garrus fangirl when I learnt he was romancable. I liked him, but that was it. When I learnt Kaidan wasn't coming back in the second game as a squadmate, I was kinda disappointed, then looked for options. I was genuinely surprised Garrus had become a LI, but I gave it a try and fell head over heels for his character. I went back to ME1 and he grew on me even more. Now I can't finish my Shenko playthrough and I've run my Shakarian one twice.

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I saw the whole ME2 Garrus romance on youtube and had to buy ME2 right after :P Which of course led me to buying ME1 right after since no import sucks.

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Turian babies you say?
I'll just leave this here... :whistle:

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Doesn’t matter how many times I see that pic, it makes me squee every single time :D

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...
Edit: On absolutely completely unrelated news, I just got a message from Miranda on the datapad app. Just "Good luck". That is so her. Ugh, I miss her as a squadmate.


I miss her SOOOO much.  Not that I don't love my ME3 girls--Tali and Liara are adorable and sweet and wonderful--but Miri felt like an equal from the get-go in a way that no other character did.  


Maybe you will understand what i mean but I miss hating Miranda. Not 'youre so useless' hkind of hate but more like respectful rivalry. Both girls (Shep and Miranda) are so effective and put their duty first. But my Akuze Shep could never befriend Miranda.She hates her methods and waht Cerberus stands for. Still there is that respectful tension between the two woman. They both know that if it was to save Earth, they would sacrifice each otehr in a blink, but respect each other for having the resolve of doing so. Even if she had the personalitly of a paper shredder, Miranda is totally shepard's equal.

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I had no idea Garrus could be romanced in ME2 until suddenly we were having that conversation. I have to say, I ADORE Garrus as a character.... but the voice acting was what did it for me. That voice!! He's just so damn smooth! (And awkward. And adorable. And smooth. And... yeah....)

I turned into a hyperfangirl of doom and haven't looked back since. :D

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I found out about Garrus being romanceable on one of the older Garrus threads not long before ME2 came out. I didn't believe it when someone said there was a video of it, so I asked for a link and spoiled myself.

It was when Eradyn was in control of the first post, wonder what happened to her, she just disapeared. I always found it odd since she was one of the most vocal supporters for a Garrus romance for a long time.

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bushes289 wrote...

I found out about Garrus being romanceable on one of the older Garrus threads not long before ME2 came out. I didn't believe it when someone said there was a video of it, so I asked for a link and spoiled myself.

It was when Eradyn was in control of the first post, wonder what happened to her, she just disapeared. I always found it odd since she was one of the most vocal supporters for a Garrus romance for a long time.


Same thing happened to me.  I spoiled most of the Garrus content in ME2 for myself, actually, since I was studying abroad and didn't have a machine that could run it.  

As for Eradyn, she's still kicking around the forums, she just isn't as active as she used to be.  Same with Jeirt, the girl who was spearheading the Thane fans.

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