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Karrie788 wrote...

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Well... if you handled the "confession" wrong, you have to shoot Kaidan on the Citadel Coup.  And if you freeze and you don't shoot him.... I think Garrus can.


What confession?


The "cheating" confession.  If you let Shepard lie and deny the whole thing, I think.  And then stop visiting.

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Spartas Husky wrote...

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I have only one "cheating" Shepard.  I have one "always faithful" (Avery), one that was saving herself for the end of the war (Rachel -- she gets the "new Kaidanmance"), and then one who's all for Garrus.  (Meghan's the "cheater" and "the all for Garrus" -- reflects both fics she's in.)

Apparently, if you have the Citadel scene with Garrus before Kaidan's cafe scene, you can avoid all sorts of awkwardness.


Oh I knew that, but love triangles are too fun to pass up. I was a little disappointed Shep didn't mention Garrus at all, because that's basically the reason she said no to Kaidan. That and the fact that he said she cheated on him. (insert Ross' "WE WERE ON BREAK!" here) Difficult times... that never stopped you before, Shep.


Aw?:huh: Like what? I must have missed something then cuz I didn't notice any awkwardness:?. I went with Kaidan's cafe scene before Garrus' date and it went just fine. I was disappointed just like you Karrie that Shep didn't have an option to be honest with Kaidan, tell him that she chose to be with Garrus. I think her line "those are difficult times" is facepalm worthy. Considering they all serve on the same ship it must suck to be Kaidan seing them together right after Shep dumped him with such a lame excuse. I really wished for some Garrus vs. Kaidan banter, nothing dramatic, just some kind of acknowledgement, few snarky lines maybe, but there's nothing! At least I didn't find any. Kaidan is his usual derpy Kaidan when he talks to Shepard so I really don't understand what was the whole "cheating" fuss about:P



... Again I'm in the blue. There isn't a fight over fem shep?... I dont even know if there is a fight over male shep.

In me1  I think male shep had a fight between liara and Ash. Dont know any others


There is no fight about femshep. But you can get Kaidan to ask you out like nothing happend if you during his date if you didnt make things plenty clear on mars or went paragon on him during his stay at the hospital. But since there is no going back after Garrus date (all dates are lockdown moments) then you can be nice to kaidan and still only get the friendship talk. Its a bit less immersion breaking since it looks like Kaidan understands that you moved on.

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outmane wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

sushismygen wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I have only one "cheating" Shepard.  I have one "always faithful" (Avery), one that was saving herself for the end of the war (Rachel -- she gets the "new Kaidanmance"), and then one who's all for Garrus.  (Meghan's the "cheater" and "the all for Garrus" -- reflects both fics she's in.)

Apparently, if you have the Citadel scene with Garrus before Kaidan's cafe scene, you can avoid all sorts of awkwardness.


Oh I knew that, but love triangles are too fun to pass up. I was a little disappointed Shep didn't mention Garrus at all, because that's basically the reason she said no to Kaidan. That and the fact that he said she cheated on him. (insert Ross' "WE WERE ON BREAK!" here) Difficult times... that never stopped you before, Shep.


Aw?:huh: Like what? I must have missed something then cuz I didn't notice any awkwardness:?. I went with Kaidan's cafe scene before Garrus' date and it went just fine. I was disappointed just like you Karrie that Shep didn't have an option to be honest with Kaidan, tell him that she chose to be with Garrus. I think her line "those are difficult times" is facepalm worthy. Considering they all serve on the same ship it must suck to be Kaidan seing them together right after Shep dumped him with such a lame excuse. I really wished for some Garrus vs. Kaidan banter, nothing dramatic, just some kind of acknowledgement, few snarky lines maybe, but there's nothing! At least I didn't find any. Kaidan is his usual derpy Kaidan when he talks to Shepard so I really don't understand what was the whole "cheating" fuss about:P



... Again I'm in the blue. There isn't a fight over fem shep?... I dont even know if there is a fight over male shep.

In me1  I think male shep had a fight between liara and Ash. Dont know any others


There is no fight about femshep. But you can get Kaidan to ask you out like nothing happend if you during his date if you didnt make things plenty clear on mars or went paragon on him during his stay at the hospital. But since there is no going back after Garrus date (all dates are lockdown moments) then you can be nice to kaidan and still only get the friendship talk. Its a bit less immersion breaking since it looks like Kaidan understands that you moved on.


Ah paragon... I only answer first paragon with Ash. Then I go renegade.

" wow... you left me on horizon, you turn your back on me, so do not act like I'm the one who shouldn't have moved on"

paraphrasing. But I thought it was an excellent line from MaleShep to Ash regarding A relationship in me2.

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Huh. Ash was surprisingly cool with my ManShep. She even said that Tali was like a sister to her (to which I say "er, what?!") and that she approved. O_ô Oh, and you guys were right, ManShep and Garrus are epic bros.

I might orchestrate Kaidan's death on purpose in ME3. I like tragedies. Maybe even let Garrus shoot him.

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Karrie788 wrote...

Huh. Ash was surprisingly cool with my ManShep. She even said that Tali was like a sister to her (to which I say "er, what?!") and that she approved. O_ô

I might orchestrate Kaidan's death on purpose in ME3. I like tragedies. Maybe even let Garrus shoot him.


uhm... she was kool with it?

nvm found it. I remember now. it was in ym 2nd playthrough I carry a Miranda romance thats probably why.


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Sialater wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Well... if you handled the "confession" wrong, you have to shoot Kaidan on the Citadel Coup.  And if you freeze and you don't shoot him.... I think Garrus can.


What confession?


The "cheating" confession.  If you let Shepard lie and deny the whole thing, I think.  And then stop visiting.


I'm not sure if I'd call it akward... not in that context at least.
I feel it's more connected to VS trust issues when it comes to Shepard being ex-cerberus. 
You can choose not to visit him in the hospital at all ( LI involved or not) I don't think "cheating" is a problem here.
Besides I can still shoot him if I don't pick paragon/renegade options, even if I was nice to him the whole time and brought him whiskey ;)

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sushismygen wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Well... if you handled the "confession" wrong, you have to shoot Kaidan on the Citadel Coup.  And if you freeze and you don't shoot him.... I think Garrus can.


What confession?


The "cheating" confession.  If you let Shepard lie and deny the whole thing, I think.  And then stop visiting.


I'm not sure if I'd call it akward... not in that context at least.
I feel it's more connected to VS trust issues when it comes to Shepard being ex-cerberus. 
You can choose not to visit him in the hospital at all ( LI involved or not) I don't think "cheating" is a problem here.
Besides I can still shoot him if I don't pick paragon/renegade options, even if I was nice to him the whole time and brought him whiskey ;)


I didn't say the confession was awkward.  I said you can handle it wrong.

I said the cafe scene could be awkward.

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Mresa wrote...

^^
I didn't let my older brother to play ME3. I hid the game from him when came home to borrow it.I was yelling that I'm saving him.
He gets it after the Ending DLC is released.


He'll appreciate you one day...what a good sister you are!

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Karrie788 wrote...

I might orchestrate Kaidan's death on purpose in ME3. I like tragedies. Maybe even let Garrus shoot him.


My second FemShep was in a similar situation. Romanced Kaidan in ME, turned to Garrus in ME2 and chose at least some renegade answers during the Mars / hospital dialogues, including the "our fight at Horizon really threw me" (or similar) line, which I suspect to lock out / end the romance permanently. I made a pre-elevator Citadel save, to test the different options in the Udina-confrontation later, with the intend to let him die - Shepard was really angry at him, after all.
Turned out I could not do it. Not because of Kaidan, but Garrus seemed to be more than upset when he had to witness or, worse, cause his death. Well, a reload and the right conversation choice afterwards turned the Major into a war asset and saved the Turian from emotional trouble - Shepard could live with that. 

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txmn1016 wrote...

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^^
I didn't let my older brother to play ME3. I hid the game from him when came home to borrow it.I was yelling that I'm saving him.
He gets it after the Ending DLC is released.


He'll appreciate you one day...what a good sister you are!


Hah thanks but then he took my ME1 and 2.:mellow:
Said he'd return them after a month. So...
I don't get to play Mass Effect at all, no Garrus for a month.:crying:

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Mresa wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

Mresa wrote...

^^
I didn't let my older brother to play ME3. I hid the game from him when came home to borrow it.I was yelling that I'm saving him.
He gets it after the Ending DLC is released.


He'll appreciate you one day...what a good sister you are!


Hah thanks but then he took my ME1 and 2.:mellow:
Said he'd return them after a month. So...
I don't get to play Mass Effect at all, no Garrus for a month.:crying:


Digital copies FTW.

Heh, I kinda wish my brother could steal my copies. That way I could hold off the games until the release of the DLC. I am so hopeful. :crying:

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Hmmm, if you go paragon on him in hospital then I guess I could understand how Kaidan expects something more in the cafe scene but then again it's Kaidan...whith his puppy eyes glued to Shepard at all times. Maybe I didn't find it awkward cuz I was kinda expecting Kaidan to be all "I want you back" from the begining. Was actually surprised that they didn't make it more clear in the hospital. When I first heard "Was there something between you and Garrus?" I thought that the next question would be something that would confirm Shepard's feeling for one or another, oh well. Btw I found it a bit funny how the game tries to hook you up with everybody else then Garrus first. His date was the last thing that triggered for me. Had to fight through Traynor:blink:, then Allers:sick: and Kaidan:?, but I made it in the end:O:wub:

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sushismygen wrote...

Hmmm, if you go paragon on him in hospital then I guess I could understand how Kaidan expects something more in the cafe scene but then again it's Kaidan...whith his puppy eyes glued to Shepard at all times. Maybe I didn't find it awkward cuz I was kinda expecting Kaidan to be all "I want you back" from the begining. Was actually surprised that they didn't make it more clear in the hospital. When I first heard "Was there something between you and Garrus?" I thought that the next question would be something that would confirm Shepard's feeling for one or another, oh well. Btw I found it a bit funny how the game tries to hook you up with everybody else then Garrus first. His date was the last thing that triggered for me. Had to fight through Traynor:blink:, then Allers:sick: and Kaidan:?, but I made it in the end:O:wub:


you forgot Liara :P

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outmane wrote...

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Hmmm, if you go paragon on him in hospital then I guess I could understand how Kaidan expects something more in the cafe scene but then again it's Kaidan...whith his puppy eyes glued to Shepard at all times. Maybe I didn't find it awkward cuz I was kinda expecting Kaidan to be all "I want you back" from the begining. Was actually surprised that they didn't make it more clear in the hospital. When I first heard "Was there something between you and Garrus?" I thought that the next question would be something that would confirm Shepard's feeling for one or another, oh well. Btw I found it a bit funny how the game tries to hook you up with everybody else then Garrus first. His date was the last thing that triggered for me. Had to fight through Traynor:blink:, then Allers:sick: and Kaidan:?, but I made it in the end:O:wub:


you forgot Liara :P

And James... somehow.

But to be fair Liara does not specifically says she wants Shepard. Shep has to make the first move. (In ME3, of course)

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outmane wrote...

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Hmmm, if you go paragon on him in hospital then I guess I could understand how Kaidan expects something more in the cafe scene but then again it's Kaidan...whith his puppy eyes glued to Shepard at all times. Maybe I didn't find it awkward cuz I was kinda expecting Kaidan to be all "I want you back" from the begining. Was actually surprised that they didn't make it more clear in the hospital. When I first heard "Was there something between you and Garrus?" I thought that the next question would be something that would confirm Shepard's feeling for one or another, oh well. Btw I found it a bit funny how the game tries to hook you up with everybody else then Garrus first. His date was the last thing that triggered for me. Had to fight through Traynor:blink:, then Allers:sick: and Kaidan:?, but I made it in the end:O:wub:


you forgot Liara :P


Haha, true. Though she never made a move on me, she was only friendly. Liara's "father" on the other hand...seems to know something I wasn't quite aware of :P:lol:

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^^
One of those moments when I longed for a neutral answer.

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Or a renegade interrupt.

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sushismygen wrote...

outmane wrote...

sushismygen wrote...

Hmmm, if you go paragon on him in hospital then I guess I could understand how Kaidan expects something more in the cafe scene but then again it's Kaidan...whith his puppy eyes glued to Shepard at all times. Maybe I didn't find it awkward cuz I was kinda expecting Kaidan to be all "I want you back" from the begining. Was actually surprised that they didn't make it more clear in the hospital. When I first heard "Was there something between you and Garrus?" I thought that the next question would be something that would confirm Shepard's feeling for one or another, oh well. Btw I found it a bit funny how the game tries to hook you up with everybody else then Garrus first. His date was the last thing that triggered for me. Had to fight through Traynor:blink:, then Allers:sick: and Kaidan:?, but I made it in the end:O:wub:


you forgot Liara :P


Haha, true. Though she never made a move on me, she was only friendly. Liara's "father" on the other hand...seems to know something I wasn't quite aware of :P:lol:



You should go back to the citadel after telling "dad" and daughter to speak...Some of her input on them both is hilarious.
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Hah, perfect for our conversation:
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Digital copies FTW.

Heh, I kinda wish my brother could steal my copies. That way I could hold off the games until the release of the DLC. I am so hopeful. :crying:

You could play some multiplayer instead. It is suprisingly fun, especialy if you play as a turian (figures) sentinel. Spam overload and warp to devastate all kinds of enemies while you are safe and comfortable behind your tech armor. Not that we should need such a advantage to play as a turian, running around as one of our favourite aliens should be reason enough to choose that race.

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Argraharg wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Digital copies FTW.

Heh, I kinda wish my brother could steal my copies. That way I could hold off the games until the release of the DLC. I am so hopeful. :crying:

You could play some multiplayer instead. It is suprisingly fun, especialy if you play as a turian (figures) sentinel. Spam overload and warp to devastate all kinds of enemies while you are safe and comfortable behind your tech armor. Not that we should need such a advantage to play as a turian, running around as one of our favourite aliens should be reason enough to choose that race.


I'm not a big fan of MP in general. I feel uncomfortable playing with random people. I play it solo (and fail everytime XD).

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I've done the date scene 2 times with Garrumancers. The first one never had any awkwardness with Kaidan (she romanced him in ME1) but I might have missed 1 visit at the hospital (and I picked the "Let me explain option" when he asked about Garrus.

My second one got the awkward "I understand you cheated" talk and I was so angry I couldn't slap him or at least tell him off. I do NOT count ME2 romance like anything even remotely like cheating. This is one of the reasons I misslike the Kaidan romance in general, it feels.. well it isn't very well written at all. The Garrus romance on the other hand.

And this kinda sad, I loved Kaidan in ME1, not so much in ME3. Sbarge still does a wonderful job but the manuscript was just crap.

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Karrie788 wrote...

Argraharg wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Digital copies FTW.

Heh, I kinda wish my brother could steal my copies. That way I could hold off the games until the release of the DLC. I am so hopeful. :crying:

You could play some multiplayer instead. It is suprisingly fun, especialy if you play as a turian (figures) sentinel. Spam overload and warp to devastate all kinds of enemies while you are safe and comfortable behind your tech armor. Not that we should need such a advantage to play as a turian, running around as one of our favourite aliens should be reason enough to choose that race.


I'm not a big fan of MP in general. I feel uncomfortable playing with random people. I play it solo (and fail everytime XD).


This and also the fact that I got no Gold prevents me from getting to play as my favourite race ever.:crying:

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Lol. "GET OUT OF MY SHOWER SL*T"

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Mresa wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Argraharg wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Digital copies FTW.

Heh, I kinda wish my brother could steal my copies. That way I could hold off the games until the release of the DLC. I am so hopeful. :crying:

You could play some multiplayer instead. It is suprisingly fun, especialy if you play as a turian (figures) sentinel. Spam overload and warp to devastate all kinds of enemies while you are safe and comfortable behind your tech armor. Not that we should need such a advantage to play as a turian, running around as one of our favourite aliens should be reason enough to choose that race.


I'm not a big fan of MP in general. I feel uncomfortable playing with random people. I play it solo (and fail everytime XD).


This and also the fact that I got no Gold prevents me from getting to play as my favourite race ever.:crying:


Join The Talons

Playing with fellow turian lovers is the best.  Also if you want to add me on Xbox, my tag is GinningComet3.  Just send a message saying you know me from the BSN.  I never mind playing with newbies so don't be shy :lol:

Edit: Needs MOAR Garrus

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