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No Shepard Without Vakarian: Garrus Love and Turian Discussion


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#1551
ammyretsu

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That sounds ominous :?

#1552
Tasha vas Nar Rayya

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

Reeku wrote...

We need more Turian/Garrus news. D:

Here you go!

twitter.com/#!/CabLivingstone/status/102099538151620609

"Doing a really harsh scene with Brandon Keener, our Garrus in #ME3"


I hope this harsh scene is just the result of an optional choice... Right?

#1553
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 For Devoted Fans of Garrus, here's a reposting of an earlier thread from "Garrus Spectre - or Commander ?"


Alperez wrote...

Garrus/Shepard always seemed similar to Spock/Kirk imo.

While Garrus has all the tools needed to be a leader (and proved it somewhat in me2) he acheives more when Shepard is around than he does without Shepard. I think the ideal scenario would be Garrus filling the same role as he previously has but at the end of me3 to have the opportunity to prove himself as his own man.

Something like when we save the turians (assuming something like that may happen) Shepard getting credit for it but saying something like "Garrus is the one you should be thanking, without him i couldn't have done anything" thereby showing Garrus how highly Shepard thinks of him and giving Garrus the confidence to be all he can be.



I'm in agreement with alperez on this one....Garrus has incredible abilities and has proven he can take on formidable challenges. 

His confidence about his own leadership abilities were surely shaken to the core by losing his entire Omega team to a traitor, yet I believe that given new opportunities to lead - he will rebound ever stronger. 

Like many driven people - he is his own harshest critic.  Yes, he made mistakes, yet he achieved things people did not even think were possible.  I'd like to see Garrus entrusted with a mission he has to lead with his own chosen team - much like on the Collector Base Mission... so he can step out of Shepard's shadow. Perhaps Garrus's responsibilities will grow from there as the game progresses... ?   I'm sure we'll find out. 

Getting back to the original question... I believe Garrus will make an excellent Commander - in this emerging Grand Alliance.  I think even being a Spectre might grate on Garrus, because the Spectres are ultimately Agents of the Council - and with the Council being both unsupportive and overtly directive - that's still too much b.s. for "Mr. I DID IT MY WAY".....that being Garrus.  

I really dig Garrus as a character too.  He's got depth, relationships going on, pain, hurts, and charm too. 
What a Turian !   Glad he's on my Team ! 


And now...a scene between Garrus and Shepard...before a CONFRONTATION WITH THE REAPERS ! 
I Imagined this scene because - it feels realistic to imagine that people's fears will emerge about the challenges ahead.....
( Maybe this works better with Ms. Commander Shepard... but - it's your imagination - so it's up to YOU !  ) 
 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Scene:    At the Normandy Gunnery Station >


Garrus:   "So......Shepard,  - remember when we went up against Saren and Sovereign, killed their allies, defeated their plans and then Blew their Asses UP - all against INCREDIBLE odds ?" 


Shepard:    "Yup...I only remember it about ....THREE Times a Day now...."


Garrus:    ".....And Then....well....THEN.....YOU DIED. ( !! )... CAME BACK FROM THE DEAD....( !!! ) ....Found me on Omega, - helped SAVE MY ASS...and then persuaded me to join you for a SUICIDE MISSION that even the Craziest Bastards in the Galaxy would be CRAZY to take - and THEN.....WE DID THE IMPOSSIBLE..( ! ) 
.. WE BEAT THE ENEMY AGAIN !!! "


Shepard:    "Uh....Yes..Garrus..."


Garrus:       "Well now buddy.....  - just between you and me...                      
I'M FRACKIN' SCARED BY WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST ! " 


Shepard:   "Um....Should I do my "Inspirational Speech" NOW..... or would you rather I just tell you how I Trust you with my life and BELIEVE IN YOU.....and that WE'LL FIND A WAY ??? !!! "



Garrus:     "Actually.... I'm looking for a hug."


Shepard:    " Okay..."       ( Hugs )


Garrus:     " All right...I feel a little better....... so NOW tell me all that inspirational stuff.... I think I need it !"
                    - Then I want a drink ! "

Shepard:    "First dozen are on me !" 

#1554
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Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/CabLivingstone/status/102099538151620609

"Doing a really harsh scene with Brandon Keener, our Garrus in #ME3"

Seems like we're in for some serious gut- and heart-wrenching in ME3. 

#1555
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Lady Olivia wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/CabLivingstone/status/102099538151620609

"Doing a really harsh scene with Brandon Keener, our Garrus in #ME3"

Seems like we're in for some serious gut- and heart-wrenching in ME3. 


no, garrus is just doing his death metal recording session.

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Someone wrote...

twitter.com/#!/CabLivingstone/status/102099538151620609

"Doing a really harsh scene with Brandon Keener, our Garrus in #ME3"

Ohhhh interesting. 0:

#1557
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If this involves either Garrus breaking up with my Shepard or dying as part of the plot, I'm quitting gaming.

#1558
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We're probably reading too much into this.

#1559
ammyretsu

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Yeah. I mean, he could die during the SE in ME2 so it's unlikely to be anything like breaking with up femshep or dying (anyway, aren't all deaths rumoured to be due to us cocking up in ME3?).

More likely to be family related issues, especially after reading his dossier in LOTSB after completing the game. Poor Garrus ;(

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

Reeku wrote...

We need more Turian/Garrus news. D:

Here you go!

twitter.com/#!/CabLivingstone/status/102099538151620609

"Doing a really harsh scene with Brandon Keener, our Garrus in #ME3"


I hope this harsh scene is just the result of an optional choice... Right?

It better be. I am too much of a wuss to hurt fictionaly pixels I like.

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CristinaK wrote...

If this involves either Garrus breaking up with my Shepard or dying as part of the plot, I'm quitting gaming.


It could have something to do with his family

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The first thing that 'harsh scene' brought to mind was Garrus finally turning against hardcore renegade Shepard. Which is to say, a Shepard that makes it clear once and for all that they're only out to promote humanity at the expense of the rest of the galaxy. Not just being pragmatic, but intentionally dooming other civilizations. [Or simply a Shepard that crosses Garrus' morality threshold.]

We know that squadmates may turn against Shepard due to his/her choices, so it seems logical to me that Garrus will be one of them. Which would hurt bigtime.

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I figure the Tali & to a lesser extent the VS would be the most likely to turn on Shepard based upon decisions. Siding with the geth against the quarians is obvious for Tali & the VS may not fully trust Shepard.

Garrus & Liara seem most likely to the most squad mates that are with you no matter what.

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It would take quite an extreme attitude to lose Garrus or Liara approval but I hope the reaction for going that far (has to be something very xenophobic or endangering their specific homeworld i'd guess) will be appropriatly extreme.

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Here is to hoping it's awesome(ly gut wrenching) either way!

#1566
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As this is the last game in the trilogy they can allow us to mess things up a lot if we want to so I think it would be a good idea to allow squadmates to turn on Shepard under the right circumstances. Garrus is no longer the young idealist who idolises Shepard, he is now his/her equal and will follow his own heart. At least that is how I prefer to see it.

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I can see that kind of thing happening. I mean, it's not like it hasn't before. We all know what went down on Virmire between Shepard and Wrex, and the different outcomes of said situation, depending on how you play.

Wrex and Shepard are friends, but Wrex was so determined to help his race that he was willing to stand up to Shepard for them, the outcome of which ended in his death. On the other hand, you are also able to talk him down with the right dialogue options, showing that in some circumstances, depending on how you play, Shepard's opinion means more.

In the case of Garrus, if you've played LOTSB, in the Shadowbroker's Dossier of him, it says something along the lines of Garrus having potential but being unable to grow under Shepard's command. A few of you have said this before but I do feel like this might play a part in ME3, where, in certain situations, Garrus finally decides, "Hey, I think I can do this on my own," and it causes a conflict of interests.

That's just my opinion. It could very well be that something happens on his home planet that might make him want to stay. After thinking on it a bit, I feel like I'm looking forward to finding out what plans they have for our wonderful turian. :)

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About garrus possbly leaving Shepard because he opposes some decisions, I hope the player has a say in the outcome but also that it reflexes some of the decisions take. I mean my proCerberus Shep may be a sweettalker but id be sad if he could convince Garrus that humans have to be saved first at the last minute.

About Garrus wanting to work on his own, i'd see a renegaded Garrus be confident enough to do that. After all, hes been told for 2 games that he was on the right track. On the other hand, paragaded Garrus would know he isnt on par with Shepard yet when it comes to grey issues. On the other hand, renegaded Garrus already dropped out of Spectre training. I dont know how hell get a ship and a crew if the Citadel dont want to give him an other chance.
That always leaves the turian military. We dont know much about them but I hope we will in ME3.

Modifié par outmane, 15 août 2011 - 03:26 .


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I am scared. :(

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wheres that pick where femshep modded with miranda's secks armor is standing stonefaced  behind garrus when he says no?

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Roflmao, "secks armor".

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Garrus and Shep kicked the ass of that Atlas!

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Has the new trailer been uploaded any where? There were so, so many close ups of Garrus. I think I need to watch it again.