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txmn1016 wrote...

mireisen wrote...

And another edit: Wait...what about the female LIs? Do they have exes at all?


Lol, Miranda's ex was Jacob.

But she doesn't even bring him up, does she? Only Jacob brings their previous relationship up. Because lolz, only guys can talk about their exes.

Back on-topic (and slightly off-current-topic): I've been on tumblr trolling for new Garrus fanart and of all the Shepard/Garrus cuddlepics I've seen, this one just might be the most adorable...

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

mireisen wrote...

And another edit: Wait...what about the female LIs? Do they have exes at all?


Lol, Miranda's ex was Jacob.

But she doesn't even bring him up, does she? Only Jacob brings their previous relationship up. Because lolz, only guys can talk about their exes.

Back on-topic (and slightly off-current-topic): I've been on tumblr trolling for new Garrus fanart and of all the Shepard/Garrus cuddlepics I've seen, this one just might be the most adorable...


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Yeah, but Jacob will talk about it with both femshep and mshep...so that's...better? I guess.  I don't know.  She's got a known ex.  That was my point.

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txmn1016 wrote...

Yeah, but Jacob will talk about it with both femshep and mshep...so that's...better? I guess.  I don't know.  She's got a known ex.  That was my point.


That was less a "lemme tell you about my ex" moment than Jacob assurring the commander that he and Miranda were good and professional.  That's very different than, say, Carth talking at length about his wife in KOTOR and comparing Revan to her at every turn.

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>Cousin is over from interstate with her 7-8 month old
>keep imagining turian child in its place

.......yeah

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I don't know what you all are talking about ATM, but I am replaying ME2 with the anticipation of Garrusmance and ME3 import, so I thought I'd try to re-integrate here...hi everyone! /wavies :)

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EnvyTB075 wrote...

>Cousin is over from interstate with her 7-8 month old
>keep imagining turian child in its place

.......yeah

Grinning like an idiot at your confession. Do you imagine chirping and trilling sounds when the kid makes noises?



kglaser wrote...

I don't know what you all are talking about ATM, but I am replaying ME2 with the anticipation of Garrusmance and ME3 import, so I thought I'd try to re-integrate here...hi everyone! /wavies :)

Hallobies!

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kglaser wrote...

I don't know what you all are talking about ATM, but I am replaying ME2 with the anticipation of Garrusmance and ME3 import, so I thought I'd try to re-integrate here...hi everyone! /wavies :)


Hallo lovely!  

We're talking about how we don't like our LIs blabbing on and on about their exes.  Thankfully, Garrus is an extremely classy dude.

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PhantomGinger wrote...

NSFW Garrus Comic

Anyone else see the latest?



He asks for dirty talk.

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And pencils are up for the first page in next series of panels. The Eagle has Landed. Bow chicka bow wow.

By the way, thanks for ruining my childhood in the most glorious of manners PhantomGinger. I don't think you could have chosen a better context or gif. Hats off to you.

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

mireisen wrote...

And another edit: Wait...what about the female LIs? Do they have exes at all?


Lol, Miranda's ex was Jacob.

But she doesn't even bring him up, does she? Only Jacob brings their previous relationship up. Because lolz, only guys can talk about their exes.

Back on-topic (and slightly off-current-topic): I've been on tumblr trolling for new Garrus fanart and of all the Shepard/Garrus cuddlepics I've seen, this one just might be the most adorable...

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Oh hey! I drew that! I was commissioned to do it by a friend... it was a lot of fun. I'm glad you like it! And thought it was adorable. Thank you! :D

Modifié par conleysdoodles, 26 avril 2012 - 07:43 .


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Oh hey! I drew that! I was commissioned to do it by a friend... it was a lot of fun. I'm glad you like it! And thought it was adorable. Thank you! :D


I tumblrstalked you and...

JFC I want to hug every single one of your Talis.

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Best artwork ever. Y'know why? Because if you get this, you know why

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Niostang wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

>Cousin is over from interstate with her 7-8 month old
>keep imagining turian child in its place

.......yeah

Grinning like an idiot at your confession. Do you imagine chirping and trilling sounds when the kid makes noises?


........yeah

edit: Especially something along the lines of the "demanding little yap" in that fanfic. Dat cutenesss

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 26 avril 2012 - 09:35 .


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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

It was kind of his alien appearance that did it for me too though.  I don't know.  He's incredibly tall and muscular.  He just looks masculine.  Now that I'm trying to think about what it is, it's hard to put my finger on it--but his appearance definitely had something to do with it.  I've always liked the look of Turians.

I agree, he gives off a really masculine vibe.

In spite of being very alien, Garrus hits all of my major physical attraction points in human men. Tall, broad shoulders, muscular but not stocky, pretty eyes, angular face and jawline (and how!) and a sexy, sexy voice. As a plus, his alien traits allow him to avoid certain turn-offs of mine (excessive hairiness, for one) as well as the uncanny valley I get from all of the human males in-game.

RE: Garrus' romantic history. I'm glad not to know. Seriously, does every LI have to tell me about his past love? I don't care and I'm not flattered by the comparisons. They need to stop taking up precious romance dialogue telling me about some other woman and making me feel like there's an invisible scoreboard somewhere. Such a turn-off.

I don't mind the reach vs. flexibility story at all since that wasn't a relationship, but I'm SO glad that him getting serious in ME3 didn't come with him talking about a past girlfriend.

Good points, something similar for us guys might explain why the masked Tali is so popular. Human and asari LIs of both genders often looks as odd and derpy as Shepard.

Yes, the turians are quite maleish in many ways (and this is a good thing realy, a masculine style fits them), is this perhaps one of the reasons they never bothered to make female turians? But it shouldn't be hard to make femaleish turians considering all the impressive fanart of female turians I have seen. Here I go whining about the lack of female turians again...

The reach and flexilbility story was just a funny anectdote from Garrus, he was totaly unprepared for FemShep to use it in a flirt with the subtelty of a rabid rhino in a china shop. It was by the way fun to see the the usualy cool Garrus lose said cool for once as a reaction to said flirt.

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Argraharg wrote...

Good points, something similar for us guys might explain why the masked Tali is so popular. Human and asari LIs of both genders often looks as odd and derpy as Shepard.

Yes, the turians are quite maleish in many ways (and this is a good thing realy, a masculine style fits them), is this perhaps one of the reasons they never bothered to make female turians? But it shouldn't be hard to make femaleish turians considering all the impressive fanart of female turians I have seen. Here I go whining about the lack of female turians again...

The reach and flexilbility story was just a funny anectdote from Garrus, he was totaly unprepared for FemShep to use it in a flirt with the subtelty of a rabid rhino in a china shop. It was by the way fun to see the the usualy cool Garrus lose said cool for once as a reaction to said flirt.

I was surprised how quickly he agreed to skip to the tiebreaker with Shep right after losing his cool, as you say.

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...
You must have loved Carth in KotOR. :lol:


...

:sick:

Though to be entirely fair to Carth, there were a LOT of factors working against him.  The biggest one wasn't the dead wife thing, it was the fact that I was about 16 when I played KOTOR for the first time.  And Carth's 38.  His in-game SON was older than me.  I'm sorry, call me immature, but EWWWWWWWW.


:D

Sorry for bringing this up again, but that is such an accurate description of my own reaction to KOTOR...
I liked Anomen, at least later on, but Carth - no way. Perhaps the German VA was an additional problem, but his speech after the temple before the final fight made my absolute-lightside glowing-blue Revan want to punch him. "I am proud of you", spoken like a teacher to a young pupil, after ignoring / doubting / hurting her during a time where she needed his support most? Eh, no.
Didn't play DA2, so I can't comment on Fenris, but Anders... probably a VA problem again. Very many people seem to like him, but I couldn't stand him in Awakening. And what I've read about DA2 didn't sound very promising, storywise.

Anyway, for all of BioWare's romances I have seen so far, with one single exception, there are these moments where I can't help thinking "stop being so damn stupid". With Garrus I can't recall them, or there are simply none. And his voice and design (no uncanny valley) certainly don't hurt, either.

Edit: Yes, I remember feeling surprised, too. Garrus was clearly not expecting Shepard's suggestion, but still said yes a second later. Taking his 'broken' appearance on Omega into consideration, I wondered if he had already realized that his feelings for her run a bit deeper than friendship. Then the idea (interspecies awkwardness...) itself would not have shocked him, just that it was Shepard who brought it up.

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I was surprised how quickly he agreed to skip to the tiebreaker with Shep right after losing his cool, as you say.

Yes, it implies that he was already thinking about it right?

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Argraharg wrote...

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I was surprised how quickly he agreed to skip to the tiebreaker with Shep right after losing his cool, as you say.

Yes, it implies that he was already thinking about it right?

For me it shows he definitely already had feelings for her. He probably thought best not to act on it (interspecies awkwardness, or she most likely would never think of him that way, etc.), so he didn't overthink it.. Then she proposes it, and he's a bit taken aback but hey, the girl I like fancies me too, that's nice, let's go for it! THEN he starts really thinking about it and problems rise in his head (such as interspecices awkwardness), hence his uncertainty in the next conversation. When she reassures him however, he's quick to agree.

So yeah, for me he's liked her for a while. Now I'm not sure when exactly he started liking her. Maybe losing her made him realize how much he cared for her, that's a likely scenario in my head, although I doubt he started the whole Archangel business as a form of death wish to join her in the afterlife. It's creepy to me, no offense to people who like that theory.

Or, he fell for her sometime during ME2. I mean, she shows up at the right moment for him. He just lost all of his teammates who were probably also his friends, and suddenly his lost human friend comes back in his life when he thought he had lost her forever. He says it's nice to see a friendly face, after all. And he joins her immediately afterwards without even questioning her, not even a little bit. Maybe he starts to emotionally depend on her at this point. He pretty much says she's the only friend he has left (Tali aside, I guess...).

Wow. Didn't mean to type so much, sorry.

Modifié par Karrie788, 26 avril 2012 - 11:21 .


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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Female LIs who compare the PC to their exes: 0


Leliana compares the PC to her ex.  And her ex is a total psycho.

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Karrie788 wrote...
For me it shows he definitely already had feelings for her. He probably thought best not to act on it (interspecies awkwardness, or she most likely would never think of him that way, etc.), so he didn't overthink it.. Then she proposes it, and he's a bit taken aback but hey, the girl I like fancies me too, that's nice, let's go for it!


This sort of self doubt right here is why i've never been in a relationship. Ever. I lay claim to being Garrus's doppelganger (inb4lolNO)







....not exactly relevant but whatevs.

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Karrie788 wrote...

Argraharg wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...
I was surprised how quickly he agreed to skip to the tiebreaker with Shep right after losing his cool, as you say.

Yes, it implies that he was already thinking about it right?

For me it shows he definitely already had feelings for her. He probably thought best not to act on it (interspecies awkwardness, or she most likely would never think of him that way, etc.), so he didn't overthink it.. Then she proposes it, and he's a bit taken aback but hey, the girl I like fancies me too, that's nice, let's go for it! THEN he starts really thinking about it and problems rise in his head (such as interspecices awkwardness), hence his uncertainty in the next conversation. When she reassures him however, he's quick to agree.

So yeah, for me he's liked her for a while. Now I'm not sure when exactly he started liking her. Maybe losing her made him realize how much he cared for her, that's a likely scenario in my head, although I doubt he started the whole Archangel business as a form of death wish to join her in the afterlife. It's creepy to me, no offense to people who like that theory.

Or, he fell for her sometime during ME2. I mean, she shows up at the right moment for him. He just lost all of his teammates who were probably also his friends, and suddenly his lost human friend comes back in his life when he thought he had lost her forever. He says it's nice to see a friendly face, after all. And he joins her immediately afterwards without even questioning her, not even a little bit. Maybe he starts to emotionally depend on her at this point. He pretty much says she's the only friend he has left (Tali aside, I guess...).

Wow. Didn't mean to type so much, sorry.


I'm more in this boat, since he even admitted he never had a thing for humans or considered it. I think their relationship was still too new in ME. I do know that my Shep became emotionally dependant on him for awhile. He was on every mission with her up until the Collector Base where she let him lead the fire squad. She did that for two reasons; the first was so he could rebuild his confidence in leading again since she knows he's a good leader and the second was so she could stand on her own feet without him as a crutch and function fully like her old self. So sort of a confidence builder for the both of them. Now in ME3 they're on a perfect wave length where they can depend on each other in a non psychologically damaged way. They are now true partners.

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Karrie788 wrote...

Argraharg wrote...

Good points, something similar for us guys might explain why the masked Tali is so popular. Human and asari LIs of both genders often looks as odd and derpy as Shepard.

Yes, the turians are quite maleish in many ways (and this is a good thing realy, a masculine style fits them), is this perhaps one of the reasons they never bothered to make female turians? But it shouldn't be hard to make femaleish turians considering all the impressive fanart of female turians I have seen. Here I go whining about the lack of female turians again...

The reach and flexilbility story was just a funny anectdote from Garrus, he was totaly unprepared for FemShep to use it in a flirt with the subtelty of a rabid rhino in a china shop. It was by the way fun to see the the usualy cool Garrus lose said cool for once as a reaction to said flirt.

I was surprised how quickly he agreed to skip to the tiebreaker with Shep right after losing his cool, as you say.


Because I'm not enitrely sure he wasn't... you, know... hinting.

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Sialater wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Argraharg wrote...

Good points, something similar for us guys might explain why the masked Tali is so popular. Human and asari LIs of both genders often looks as odd and derpy as Shepard.

Yes, the turians are quite maleish in many ways (and this is a good thing realy, a masculine style fits them), is this perhaps one of the reasons they never bothered to make female turians? But it shouldn't be hard to make femaleish turians considering all the impressive fanart of female turians I have seen. Here I go whining about the lack of female turians again...

The reach and flexilbility story was just a funny anectdote from Garrus, he was totaly unprepared for FemShep to use it in a flirt with the subtelty of a rabid rhino in a china shop. It was by the way fun to see the the usualy cool Garrus lose said cool for once as a reaction to said flirt.

I was surprised how quickly he agreed to skip to the tiebreaker with Shep right after losing his cool, as you say.


Because I'm not enitrely sure he wasn't... you, know... hinting.

Well, sure, looking back now I can see it. Having romanced him now, I view the moment they have in the com room when he makes the comment about women liking scars in a whole new light, for instance.  :lol: Although in my opinion he probably wasn't that much into her back then, but that's just me. Just a little easy flirting.

The first time I went through with the romance, the beginning was kinda unsettling (and I can only go through that first dialogue with a drunk Shep, especially knowing how my Shep is). I didn't expect it to happen that way and I was surprised Garrus just went for it so quickly.

But it's sweet, in retrospect.

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Karrie788 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Argraharg wrote...

Good points, something similar for us guys might explain why the masked Tali is so popular. Human and asari LIs of both genders often looks as odd and derpy as Shepard.

Yes, the turians are quite maleish in many ways (and this is a good thing realy, a masculine style fits them), is this perhaps one of the reasons they never bothered to make female turians? But it shouldn't be hard to make femaleish turians considering all the impressive fanart of female turians I have seen. Here I go whining about the lack of female turians again...

The reach and flexilbility story was just a funny anectdote from Garrus, he was totaly unprepared for FemShep to use it in a flirt with the subtelty of a rabid rhino in a china shop. It was by the way fun to see the the usualy cool Garrus lose said cool for once as a reaction to said flirt.

I was surprised how quickly he agreed to skip to the tiebreaker with Shep right after losing his cool, as you say.


Because I'm not enitrely sure he wasn't... you, know... hinting.

Well, sure, looking back now I can see it. Having romanced him now, I view the moment they have in the com room when he makes the comment about women liking scars in a whole new light, for instance.  :lol: Although in my opinion he probably wasn't that much into her back then, but that's just me. Just a little easy flirting.

The first time I went through with the romance, the beginning was kinda unsettling (and I can only go through that first dialogue with a drunk Shep, especially knowing how my Shep is). I didn't expect it to happen that way and I was surprised Garrus just went for it so quickly.

But it's sweet, in retrospect.


Well... he sounds flirty as hell to FemShep on his recruitment mission.  I know it's not a different recording than with maleShep... but... he purrs.

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Niostang wrote...

PhantomGinger wrote...

NSFW Garrus Comic

Anyone else see the latest?



He asks for dirty talk.

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And pencils are up for the first page in next series of panels. The Eagle has Landed. Bow chicka bow wow.

By the way, thanks for ruining my childhood in the most glorious of manners PhantomGinger. I don't think you could have chosen a better context or gif. Hats off to you.

:D


XD You're welcome! :devil:

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Sialater wrote...

Well... he sounds flirty as hell to FemShep on his recruitment mission.  I know it's not a different recording than with maleShep... but... he purrs.

I like to think that he sounds awesome and makes girls swoon even when he's not flirting. :P



In all seriousness though, I think we can never all have the same view of Garrus, hence we all have our "own". That includes headcanoning when he falls for FemShep. I personally think he falls for her regardless if she romances him or not (Thane is more obvious about that though), but some people may disagree.

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EnvyTB075 wrote...

>Cousin is over from interstate with her 7-8 month old
>keep imagining turian child in its place

.......yeah


Lol.  I keep reading these Garrus baby stories and damn it if they aren't making my ovaries squeel.  Must stop reading those.