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there really are some fantastic fanfictions out there. of course, there are always crappy ones too, but you get that with anything...
i wonder if that was a MassKink piece... people get some crazy shyte on there. I''ve also read some of the best storise ive ever read on there too, so *shrug* its like with anything. you take the good with the bad.
I'm not gonna reccommend any on here, as it seems when i do i get reamed out by someone, but always remember that even if you dislike a story, someone else probably likes it,... and while its ok to dislike a story.... don't hate the people that don't agree with you. *remembers back to the Spirit of Redemption mess and shudders*

k. that said... i also miss the days of discussion. :( both threads are dead. in fact the other hasn't had a post in more than half a day. :(

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Oh and by the way (yes, this IS a shameless plug) I have just updated The Guardian with even more Garrus. (and Horizon, but that pales in importance)

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legionthegeth wrote...

CristinaK wrote...

Well it was originally a Garrus/FemShep story. But the last few chapters took place on Palaven, where Garrus and Shepard had to undergo some sort of mating ceremony that lasted a few weeks where they had to mate in front of the entire clan of turians multiple times a day... and at one point Solona and her mate popped in. And... and.... oh god it was awful.

There is only one thing Solona says that I can recall that will explain the entire thing. "May I please you both?"



WHAT THE F*** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!


It's called "After The Reapers"

On Devientart it's Celebration of Life 
On Fanfiction it's Chapter 14 
I have read about 99% of all garrus & femshep fanfics and can remember most :D

Modifié par dannybates, 23 août 2011 - 01:08 .


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Ah danny! Nice to see you.

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dannybates wrote...

legionthegeth wrote...

CristinaK wrote...

Well it was originally a Garrus/FemShep story. But the last few chapters took place on Palaven, where Garrus and Shepard had to undergo some sort of mating ceremony that lasted a few weeks where they had to mate in front of the entire clan of turians multiple times a day... and at one point Solona and her mate popped in. And... and.... oh god it was awful.

There is only one thing Solona says that I can recall that will explain the entire thing. "May I please you both?"



WHAT THE F*** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!


It's called "After The Reapers"

On Devientart it's Celebration of Life 
On Fanfiction it's Chapter 14 
I have read about 99% of all garrus & femshep fanfics and can remember most :D



I read some of it and I'm shocked by it, it pretty much is ME porn just written. However I am going to finish reading it like a boss even though it disturbs. Posted Image

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AnimaTempli101 wrote...
Ah danny! Nice to see you.


I have always been here just mostly reading posts not posting this past couple of months.

legionthegeth wrote...
I read some of it and I'm shocked by it, it pretty much is ME porn just written. However I am going to finish reading it like a boss even though it disturbs. Posted Image


nothing wrong with that :whistle:

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Ha! Glad someone knew which story I was talking about. I really can't reading it, as filthy as it is. But people love it. It's well written, just... not to my taste. I recently read an amazing fanfic and it frustrates me that I can't remember the name!

And even though we have yet to meet him (and I hope we get the chance), Garrus' father, from how he's described, seems to be the epitome of "good turian." I can imagine his entire family being that way, and him sort of being the odd one out.
Even though he considers himself a "bad turian," really, Garrus still has the ideals that seem to be expected of him, namely, the "needs of the many over the needs of the few" outlook that turians as a whole seem to hold in high regard. He's probably not so different from the rest of them, honestly. Maybe just a little more opinionated.

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Maybe im wrong but Lorik Quiin always struck me as more of a 'bad turian' thne Garrus. Most of the turian we meet are Blue Sun fodder but it still makes sense because its 'an organisation' so they fallow their leader. But Quiin is very independant. Maybe more then Garrus. They both very stylish of course.

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I'm not sure if Lorik is naturally different from the stereotype of a turian or if he is just the product of a corrupted population on Noveria. He is very chivalous, however, so he ticks that box ;)

As for Garrus, I think that what differentiates him from other turians is namely his revulsion towards restricting rules and regulations. And the lack of freedom and independance in order to spread justice.

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But then he fallows Shepard blindly. Well its ok with my main Shep cause he has no reason to be supicious). But I just finished a very human-centric playthrough with a male Shep and im terrified that the game doesnt let Garrus rebel when he knows Shep only cares about his own species.

I want a real rebel Garrus for ME3 !

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I dunno... I can't conceive of Garrus rebelling against any of my Sheps, certainly not the one that's romancing him. There's nothing she wouldn't do for him at this point anyway.

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As far as fics go... I've written one...

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outmane wrote...

But then he fallows Shepard blindly. Well its ok with my main Shep cause he has no reason to be supicious). But I just finished a very human-centric playthrough with a male Shep and im terrified that the game doesnt let Garrus rebel when he knows Shep only cares about his own species.

I want a real rebel Garrus for ME3 !


I want him to rebel a bit more in ME3 as well, regardless if his morality lines up with Shepard or not. For an independent turian, he is too quick to fall in step behind his commanding officer. At some point, Shepard's going to have to make decisions that aren't going to appease everyone, it's a war time scenario after all and there's so much at stake beyond personal relationships.

If a situation comes up where Garrus just can't see eye-to-eye with Shepard, he better be speaking up and making his voice heard, obviously I would prefer if such a situation could be resolved peacefully but it would be nice to see Shepard's authority challenged once in awhile. This sort of goes back to my idea two or so pages back about how Garrus would react to interacting with the Hiearchy and how he might handle Shepard's decisions relating to gaining the "loyalty" of the turian species.

I know the hesitation though, outmane, I also did a pro-human male Shepard run recently and while I don't think there was too much tension between him and Garrus, it wouldn't make sense for Garrus to just be ok with everything. Ideally, Garrus should be calling Shepard out when he disagrees instead of keeping his thoughts to himself.

It might even add to the strength of their relationship later once they can work through a confrontation or disagreement of some kind, maybe it will just ****** them both off in the short-term but we all know this is more than a short-term relationship.

Modifié par leonia42, 23 août 2011 - 09:22 .


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Sialater wrote...

I dunno... I can't conceive of Garrus rebelling against any of my Sheps, certainly not the one that's romancing him. There's nothing she wouldn't do for him at this point anyway.

As far as fics go... I've written one...


Unless he becomes indoctrinated, there has been hints that indoctrination will occur. But even so, I can see it being something like what happened with companions in the fade in DA2. And if so, I think that Garrus (and Tali) will be the ones who will be most likely to resist the influence.

And fanfictions, read Sia's 'Loved,'  brilliant ff! And also 'Persephone Rising' for a unique Shepard trio. With Meghan having her eyes on Garrus (since ME1 as well!)

There you go, pimped for ya Posted Image.

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I dunno... I can't conceive of Garrus rebelling against any of my Sheps, certainly not the one that's romancing him. There's nothing she wouldn't do for him at this point anyway.

As far as fics go... I've written one...


Unless he becomes indoctrinated, there has been hints that indoctrination will occur. But even so, I can see it being something like what happened with companions in the fade in DA2. And if so, I think that Garrus (and Tali) will be the ones who will be most likely to resist the influence.

And fanfictions, read Sia's 'Loved,'  brilliant ff! And also 'Persephone Rising' for a unique Shepard trio. With Meghan having her eyes on Garrus (since ME1 as well!)

There you go, pimped for ya Posted Image.


I don't think Garrus will be indoctrinated because if any noticed in ME2 during Horizon that Ashley or Kaidan was frozen by a seeker swarm and somehow magically got free and was on the end where all the humans where taking and yet they survived Horizon...

I thinks Kaidan or Ashley will be indoctrinated.... I said that as soon as i saw them survive Horizon...Posted Image

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Indoctrination is a possibilty. Would you shoot an indoctrinated Garrus to save someone else or do try to "wake" Garrus but costing the otherones life. But there will certainly be a similiar confrontation with the VS. Take a look.

Modifié par Chewin3, 24 août 2011 - 10:46 .


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Chewin3 wrote...

Indoctrination is a possibilty. Would you shoot an indoctrinated Garrus to save someone else or do try to "wake" Garrus but costing the otherones life. But there will certainly be a similiar confrontation with the VS. Take a look.


What. That is certainly news to me.. man indoctrination is going to be a beast of a plot mechanic to deal with. 

What if.. Shepard becomes indoctrinated, or begins to, and Garrus has to decide what to do about it?

I've already decided to make a few priority lists for my canon run of ME3.. which species would I save in what order, what companions would I save in what order and the overall theme is "Garrus is the last to be sacrificed if he is tbe sacrificed at all". Basically, I would get rid of my entire team before even considering it, even if he WERE indoctrinated.

Maybe that's not rational but so what, Shepard has done very little in either game to promote self-interest, can't SHE have something go right, just this once, too? And on those priority lists, I would sooner sacrifice Shepard than Garrus. Every time.

I know this is all  "worse case scenario" stuff but I feel like we need to be a bit emotionally prepared for this game. Anything can happen, it's the final chapter.

Modifié par leonia42, 24 août 2011 - 11:53 .


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Imagine if Wrex had to gun down an indoctrinated Garrus.

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I dunno... I can't conceive of Garrus rebelling against any of my Sheps, certainly not the one that's romancing him. There's nothing she wouldn't do for him at this point anyway.

As far as fics go... I've written one...


Unless he becomes indoctrinated, there has been hints that indoctrination will occur. But even so, I can see it being something like what happened with companions in the fade in DA2. And if so, I think that Garrus (and Tali) will be the ones who will be most likely to resist the influence.

And fanfictions, read Sia's 'Loved,'  brilliant ff! And also 'Persephone Rising' for a unique Shepard trio. With Meghan having her eyes on Garrus (since ME1 as well!)

There you go, pimped for ya Posted Image.


Heh, Thanks, Tasha.  Wasn't quite hinting for that, but I appreciate it all the same.  And I promise Loved will be updated soon, I've not abandoned it.

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leonia42 wrote...

Maybe that's not rational but so what, Shepard has done very little in either game to promote self-interest, can't SHE have something go right, just this once, too? And on those priority lists, I would sooner sacrifice Shepard than Garrus. Every time.

I know this is all  "worse case scenario" stuff but I feel like we need to be a bit emotionally prepared for this game. Anything can happen, it's the final chapter.


Thats my first instinct too as a player. Garrus is such an awsome character i hope he lives forever.

Then i go thinking about him and how he felt losing his team on Omega, how he asks you for something to go right in his life and also how Jack got torn to pieces by her old lover saving her and dying in the process (i know only male Sheps learn that but as a player the story touched me). 

It makes me feel like the real scrifice isnt the one who goes dying but the one who stays behind. Alone and cold. I wouldnt want that to happen to Garrus. He lost Shep once and they were just friends and he ended up on Omega.

Hell i dont think Garrus would want to be the one left behind either. I could pretty well see him pull an Alistair on you or something. 

I dont think I could have my Shepard tell him 'Im doing it for you. Ill always love you' and go take the bullet. It would hurt him so much. I dont want to have a shell of a Garrus scouring the galaxy and killing bad guys like there is no tomorrows for him.

Of course its all 'worst case scenario'. Im pretty sure ill manage to keep them both alive. Somehow.

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leonia42 wrote...

Maybe that's not rational but so what, Shepard has done very little in either game to promote self-interest, can't SHE have something go right, just this once, too? And on those priority lists, I would sooner sacrifice Shepard than Garrus. Every time.

I know this is all  "worse case scenario" stuff but I feel like we need to be a bit emotionally prepared for this game. Anything can happen, it's the final chapter.


I would rather sacrifice them both AND destroy the Reapers but I'm afraid that won't be possible (if your worst case scenario happens). Well, unless they both sacrifice themselves in order to get rid of the Reapers. 

I really can't wait for the ME3 but at the same time I'm so scared. :blink: I am sure the game will be an emotional rollercoaster for me. <3

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Obsydian wrote...

there really are some fantastic fanfictions out there. of course, there are always crappy ones too, but you get that with anything...
i wonder if that was a MassKink piece... people get some crazy shyte on there. I''ve also read some of the best storise ive ever read on there too, so *shrug* its like with anything. you take the good with the bad.
I'm not gonna reccommend any on here, as it seems when i do i get reamed out by someone, but always remember that even if you dislike a story, someone else probably likes it,... and while its ok to dislike a story.... don't hate the people that don't agree with you. *remembers back to the Spirit of Redemption mess and shudders*

k. that said... i also miss the days of discussion. :( both threads are dead. in fact the other hasn't had a post in more than half a day. :(


Yes, there are some really good Garrus. FemShep fics out there. Grated I prefer the erotica. But that is just me. I was getting really in to one fanfiction, I forget the name of it but about 15 chapters in it made FemShep out of character and acting like a high school girl, and Garrus was just a rebound for her. Ew.

Come on really? And then there was one were Garrus and Shepard getting in to an argument and then fought each other on the Crew Deck in front of everyone. Really? That is a bit out of character, I can see Garrus being mad at Shepard for something but a public fight between to adults one of them being an Commander and one of them being an ex-cop? No. It was upsetting because if executed right it could have been sexy.

Also maybe it's just me but I'm kind of sick of the Turian cliches that have been played in fan fiction for so long. Like Garrus and Shepard love each other after on sexual encounter and they mate FOR LIFE after he marks her? Meh to that but that is just me. :unsure:


As far as him rebelling in ME3...I see that some choices that she will make will destroy relationships...even with Garrus.

Modifié par MissMaster, 24 août 2011 - 07:40 .


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dannybates wrote...

legionthegeth wrote...

CristinaK wrote...

Well it was originally a Garrus/FemShep story. But the last few chapters took place on Palaven, where Garrus and Shepard had to undergo some sort of mating ceremony that lasted a few weeks where they had to mate in front of the entire clan of turians multiple times a day... and at one point Solona and her mate popped in. And... and.... oh god it was awful.

There is only one thing Solona says that I can recall that will explain the entire thing. "May I please you both?"



WHAT THE F*** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!


It's called "After The Reapers"

On Devientart it's Celebration of Life 
On Fanfiction it's Chapter 14 
I have read about 99% of all garrus & femshep fanfics and can remember most :D


WHAAAA? I'm going to read this right now!

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Obsydian wrote...

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I really like this one, I think the artist did a great job. =)

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If you like popularity contests, there's one on Gamespot. ME is represented by Garrus alone (sadly)

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Link please? :)