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Blkrose

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This is a WIP, not sure if anyone knows what a Shimeji is but I love these little mascots and decided to try and make a Garrus one.

Shimeji's are little computer mascots that walk around your computer's screen. They can climb, multiply and do other little activities.

Here is what I have so far.... I think he is cute and even has his little scar~

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I can't put him on my computer(s) but if you make him snipe your desktop icons.... that would be awesome. LOL

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Long post ahoy!

The 1st Kai Leng fight was redonculous. I had his shields down after the first gunship crap. He was all, "Ohoho you are better than I expected," and I was all..."Yeah punk, VG+shotgun, you're done, son!"

But Liara wasn't that much help -_-; I became more and more annoyed by the "forced" relationship they had. I tend to just headcanon deeper relationships with squaddies that would be beneficial to my FemShep's class. Garrus was always useful because he provided overload and his sick life-saving sniping skills. So, I had my reservations about Kaidan and killed him off first playthrough, but now I that I've actually used him and Javik, my god, biotic explosions everywhere!

But Liara...it's bad enough that she's useless to my FemShep in battle. I felt that she was "forced" on her too, esp. during some scenes where FemShep would take on a dangerously flirty tone (LotSB) but I let that slide.

What really irked me was when Tali was standing at the memorial wall after Thessia. I was floored. I was confused because, well, when did Tali and Liara become best buds? And why didn't everyone react to Rannoch getting run over by the geth? Oh yeah...they wrote that the quarians "attacked first, therefore deserved it". It just made me realize how much more mature Tali is than Liara.

Sure, Liara lost her mother. But Tali lost her dad and was put on trial by her own people. Neither Tali or Liara are BFFs with my FemShep (actually I felt she fared better with Gianna, Shiala, Kasumi, and even Samara) but after Rannoch and Thessia I felt she could call Tali a BFF over Liara, any day. Tali was never forced. I just never took to her because her voice evolved with a condescending tone. I really liked her ME1 version better, but understandable how her attitude's changed with time.

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Makes me so depressed. 10x more than Liara crying and lashing out at poor Javik. No other character would never throw the line, "You were supposed to have all the answers!" I threw up on that line. I accepted Liara for the most part but once she said that, I wanted to throw her out the airlock.

My FemShep's pretty idealistic but she's not a ******. In war, no one has all the answers and pinning it on Javik just shows, again, how disjointed she was from reality and how immature she could be. I understand that she was delusional and had her misconceptions, but saying that to Javik...She had no excuses for that!

Now Garrus...yeah. This is one of the reasons why I love his character. He keeps calm even if crap hits the fan over and over. Even if awful things are happening to him, he wouldn't hestitate to watch over Shep in the process. He's been tried and tested. Liara...on the other hand...just came across as a spoiled brat after Thessia. I was not amused.

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Sialater wrote...

I can't put him on my computer(s) but if you make him snipe your desktop icons.... that would be awesome. LOL


He can't snipe icons but Shimeji's are designed to play with IE windows. A Shimeji can hold on to an IE window, 'carry it' or even 'throw it away'.

He is an example of one

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This one is from the anime Hetalia and the character is called China, I borrowed number 11 train's image.

A Shimeji is about 46 frames... so I have a long way to go... ^^;; 

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Blkrose wrote...

This is a WIP, not sure if anyone knows what a Shimeji is but I love these little mascots and decided to try and make a Garrus one.

Shimeji's are little computer mascots that walk around your computer's screen. They can climb, multiply and do other little activities.

Here is what I have so far.... I think he is cute and even has his little scar~

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I have a couple of Shimejis(mostly Homestuck based). A Garrus/Turian Shimeji would be pretty cool. 

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Hello, I've started a petition for m/m Garrus DLC (figured that since there's a petition for Vega romance DLC it wouldn't hurt)

http://social.biowar.../index/11918131

Link to poll - http://social.biowar...61/polls/33449/

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I love Tumblr. I love Tumblr so very much. 

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I completely lost it at the last picture.

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Awesome pics!
Especially the last one. Is that Wrex or some other random Krogan?:lol:

Modifié par Mresa, 07 mai 2012 - 05:58 .


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I'm a few hours late to the party, but about the Thessia mission, I found this the other day. I'm not sure if it's actually true, but it explains a lot.

http://i39.tinypic.com/zwzuk4.png 

If it is true, then Shepard's reaction after the mission makes a lot more sense.

Modifié par flippedeclipse, 07 mai 2012 - 06:06 .


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So the only thing I don't like about Garrus is when I'm lining up for a headshot and just as I go to fire.... he beats me to it and I see the mob drop/head pop before my shot goes off.
I actually yell/growl at my screen like he can hear me LOL

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flippedeclipse wrote...

I'm a few hours late to the party, but about the Thessia mission, I found this the other day. I'm not sure if it's actually true, but it explains a lot.

If it is true, then Shepard's reaction after the mission makes a lot more sense.


Storywise, it would make more sense, I agree on that. But wasn't the From Ashes DLC released either simultaneously or very shortly after the main game? Good timing to convince people to buy the Collector's Edition, or to buy additional DLC. Time shortage or not, it still looks like a further attempt on making money.

Pictures above: I am not sure if the last is what I'd consider a perfect family...
But I suppose any adopted children would grow up with the best military training possible.

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Seleya_LL wrote...

flippedeclipse wrote...

I'm a few hours late to the party, but about the Thessia mission, I found this the other day. I'm not sure if it's actually true, but it explains a lot.

If it is true, then Shepard's reaction after the mission makes a lot more sense.


Storywise, it would make more sense, I agree on that. But wasn't the From Ashes DLC released either simultaneously or very shortly after the main game? Good timing to convince people to buy the Collector's Edition, or to buy additional DLC. Time shortage or not, it still looks like a further attempt on making money.


It was released on day 1. And to be honest, it makes more sense to me that they released From Ashes on the same day. if they had to cut that particular arc out, and were really gutted about it then surely they'd want to keep it in the game in any possible way? I know EA tends to be a go-to answer so people can't put the blame on BioWare, but maybe they (EA) said they could keep him in but have it as a paid DLC.

Saying that, there's no clear marks or anything to indicate that that image is true, so I'm not taking it as official until someone official says it is. A lot of things are cropping up lately that seem to indicate BioWare had a lot of great ideas for Mass Effect, ones' that would have sat well with the players, but they just couldn't implement them for whatever reason.

Sad really :C

(To keep it on topic: Garrus is awesome, so are Turians.)

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flippedeclipse wrote...

I'm a few hours late to the party, but about the Thessia mission, I found this the other day. I'm not sure if it's actually true, but it explains a lot.

http://i39.tinypic.com/zwzuk4.png 

If it is true, then Shepard's reaction after the mission makes a lot more sense.

Let's say it's true: I'm sorry but I don't really care. In the end I still get a cutscene in which Shepard's reaction feels off. It's obvious by now that ME3 was rushed on several levels and they had to cut a lot of stuff. That doesn't mean I'm going to forgive Bioware for it.

Besides I'm still on the camp that yes, it was cool to see Shepard more human, but in the end she was sort of taken from us and replaced by Bioware's Shepard.

On topic: Garrus keeps yelling at me not to shoot him when he keeps standing in front of me in battle. I wish I could yell back at him not to be an idiot and stay at long range (since he's so good at it). :lol:

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Karrie788 wrote...

flippedeclipse wrote...

I'm a few hours late to the party, but about the Thessia mission, I found this the other day. I'm not sure if it's actually true, but it explains a lot.

http://i39.tinypic.com/zwzuk4.png 

If it is true, then Shepard's reaction after the mission makes a lot more sense.

Let's say it's true: I'm sorry but I don't really care. In the end I still get a cutscene in which Shepard's reaction feels off. It's obvious by now that ME3 was rushed on several levels and they had to cut a lot of stuff. That doesn't mean I'm going to forgive Bioware for it.

Besides I'm still on the camp that yes, it was cool to see Shepard more human, but in the end she was sort of taken from us and replaced by Bioware's Shepard.

On topic: Garrus keeps yelling at me not to shoot him when he keeps standing in front of me in battle. I wish I could yell back at him not to be an idiot and stay at long range (since he's so good at it). :lol:


Meh, I'll be writing in my own Shep's reactions anyway.    Oh, wait... I'm already doing that.  :lol:

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Sure, that's a solution... but I suck at writing fanfiction, personally (MUCH more comfortable with OCs), and I shouldn't have to anyway. =p

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Meh, Meghan's completely an OC at this point, anyway.

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eshrafel wrote...

I didn't feel much about Thessia either. You'd never been there before. You don't even know that much about it. In fact, it's exactly the same about Earth. You've not seen it in game, and the "Earthborn" background actually depicts it as kind of nasty. Take Earth Back! Oh, alright, I guess I have to then.

Now the Citadel -- I really thought that was awesome. I care about *that*.


I agree. Liara's line that an Earthborn Shepard was "from Earth and fought harder than anyone for it" and various other references to Earth being important to Shepard were kind of off. My Earthborn Shepard was glad to be off Earth and had very little attachment to it. She didn't want anyone's homeworld taken over, but that was it. I can headcanon that she was only that focused on Earth because Anderson was, but still... The game's focus on getting every species to save Earth first was sort of uncomfortable.

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Agreed. My Shepard is certainly not feeling personally guilty for the fall of Thessia. The planet was already lost when the Normandy entered orbit. Rather, my Shepard was desparate about having lost an important fight, for the very first time. Sure, the Normandy SR-1 went down, but with dying and being revived, Shepard had not much time to dwell on it. And it was simply one ship. This time, with the Prothean VI, it is literally the last hope for the current cycle which has slipped through Shepard's hands. That's why my Shepard was upset, and I don't really care if Bioware intends to tell me otherwise.


This. For my Shepard, losing the VI was the main problem. Again, she didn't want anyone's homeworld to fall, but it wasn't exactly a new occurrence and she knew she couldn't swoop in and save the planet. Losing the one thing everyone was depending on her to get and that was their last-ditch only plan hit hard, though.

And Kai Leng...ugh. He even called in Garrus' only weakness for backup and he still needed plot armor to make it through that fight on Thessia.

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Sialater wrote...

Meh, Meghan's completely an OC at this point, anyway.

So is Lexane, but not her crew. They intimidate me.

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Blkrose wrote...

This is a WIP, not sure if anyone knows what a Shimeji is but I love these little mascots and decided to try and make a Garrus one.

Shimeji's are little computer mascots that walk around your computer's screen. They can climb, multiply and do other little activities.

Here is what I have so far.... I think he is cute and even has his little scar~

When I first downloaded Shimeji however many months (or year) ago, I actually searched for a Garrus one, but couldn't find one. A Garrus/turian one would be nice. :)

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Karrie788 wrote...
Let's say it's true: I'm sorry but I don't really care. In the end I still get a cutscene in which Shepard's reaction feels off. It's obvious by now that ME3 was rushed on several levels and they had to cut a lot of stuff. That doesn't mean I'm going to forgive Bioware for it.

Besides I'm still on the camp that yes, it was cool to see Shepard more human, but in the end she was sort of taken from us and replaced by Bioware's Shepard.


I agree with you that they should have given dialogue choices in that part and various others (like after Priority:Tuchanka where Shep snaps at Garrus and tells him that she'll sleep when she's dead? So rude of her!) but I'm glad they made Shep upset after Thessia. Otherwise when Garrus is comforting her after the romance scene when she's doubting herself would have been completely out of the blue, and kind of out of character too.

Speaking of which, someone mentioned on another thread (or maybe it was here?) that Garrus and Shepard's relationship comes full circle through the series. He looks to her for guidance in ME1, they're equals in ME2, and she looks to him for support in ME3. I think that was an absolutely wonderful touch by Bioware <3

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flippedeclipse wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...
Let's say it's true: I'm sorry but I don't really care. In the end I still get a cutscene in which Shepard's reaction feels off. It's obvious by now that ME3 was rushed on several levels and they had to cut a lot of stuff. That doesn't mean I'm going to forgive Bioware for it.

Besides I'm still on the camp that yes, it was cool to see Shepard more human, but in the end she was sort of taken from us and replaced by Bioware's Shepard.


I agree with you that they should have given dialogue choices in that part and various others (like after Priority:Tuchanka where Shep snaps at Garrus and tells him that she'll sleep when she's dead? So rude of her!) but I'm glad they made Shep upset after Thessia. Otherwise when Garrus is comforting her after the romance scene when she's doubting herself would have been completely out of the blue, and kind of out of character too.

Speaking of which, someone mentioned on another thread (or maybe it was here?) that Garrus and Shepard's relationship comes full circle through the series. He looks to her for guidance in ME1, they're equals in ME2, and she looks to him for support in ME3. I think that was an absolutely wonderful touch by Bioware <3

Sure, Shepard breaking down was a nice touch. A needed one, actually. But yeah, more dialogue options. Like the option to not snap at Joker and one to snap at the asari councillor for being a secretive idiot. OR NO NIGHTMARES ABOUT THE DAMN KID
Ha, I'm complaining again, sorry.

Shep and Garrus's relationship has a wonderful arc through the trilogy. It felt very realistic. And it's been mentioned time and again but I think the reason why that is, is because Garrus was never intended to be a LI in the first place.

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Karrie788 wrote...

Sure, Shepard breaking down was a nice touch. A needed one, actually. But yeah, more dialogue options. Like the option to not snap at Joker and one to snap at the asari councillor for being a secretive idiot. OR NO NIGHTMARES ABOUT THE DAMN KID
Ha, I'm complaining again, sorry.

Shep and Garrus's relationship has a wonderful arc through the trilogy. It felt very realistic. And it's been mentioned time and again but I think the reason why that is, is because Garrus was never intended to be a LI in the first place.


I had no problems with Shepard's breakdown, just with the stated reasons. Hearing my half-renegade Shepard say that Thessia's fall was on her... Only explanation I can think of is that a large and hard piece of rubble introduced itself to her head at full FTL speed back in the temple.
The relationship between Shepard and Garrus was wonderful indeed. And I think you are absolutely right - since Garrus was not intended as LI, he (luckily) lacks the emotional problems / potential drama spots / whatever a regular LI seems to come with.

The nightmares, though, have at least one advantage - at least if one is hunting for screenshots again ;)
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Oooh. Babies. <3

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sylnnn wrote...

So the only thing I don't like about Garrus is when I'm lining up for a headshot and just as I go to fire.... he beats me to it and I see the mob drop/head pop before my shot goes off.
I actually yell/growl at my screen like he can hear me LOL


Lol, I find I have to compete with Garrus for kills when we're both sniping.  But yeah, he'll definitely :ph34r: those kills from you if you aren't quick enough. :lol:

Edit: ToP--because he knows there are other things I'm good at.

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