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kglaser wrote...

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I've been trying to keep up on this thread but it moves so fast hahaha
oh man


You think *this* is fast, you should have seen it back in 2010 or so.. /nostalgic!
I would wake up in the morning and have to read 30 pages...haha
Garrus is just that awe-inspiring B)

Yeah, those were the days. Clan Vakarian was rather busy too. But it was nothing compared to the Tlai thread, it was plain impossible to keep up with that. I guess the dextro bros have that special something.

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Oh wow.

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Wow, indeed.
If this person insisted on "artistic integrity" to justify the final product, I would certainly not protest. Wonderful picture.

On blushing: No idea what turians do if they are embarrassed, but with their plating, I don't think blushing is an option. The romance-lines regarding blushing seem ironic / teasing to me as well.
Language fun (1): The German version is definitely pure irony. "Blushing" translates as "getting red", and that would be quite a task for a blue-blooded (in the literal sense) person.
Language fun (2): Being "blue-blooded" seems to be the same valid phrase in English and German. Didn't realize it until now.
Language fun (3): Garrus' hanar-poetry comment "This One feels like a flower". I still believe it is "feels like" in the metaphorical sense, perhaps "delicate" or whatever, but the German subtitles insist it's the literal sense, like "Arrrgh, damn, a thorn, now my finger hurts". Mistake on my part, or strange translation?

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Seleya_LL wrote...

Wow, indeed.
If this person insisted on "artistic integrity" to justify the final product, I would certainly not protest. Wonderful picture.

On blushing: No idea what turians do if they are embarrassed, but with their plating, I don't think blushing is an option. The romance-lines regarding blushing seem ironic / teasing to me as well.
Language fun (1): The German version is definitely pure irony. "Blushing" translates as "getting red", and that would be quite a task for a blue-blooded (in the literal sense) person.
Language fun (2): Being "blue-blooded" seems to be the same valid phrase in English and German. Didn't realize it until now.
Language fun (3): Garrus' hanar-poetry comment "This One feels like a flower". I still believe it is "feels like" in the metaphorical sense, perhaps "delicate" or whatever, but the German subtitles insist it's the literal sense, like "Arrrgh, damn, a thorn, now my finger hurts". Mistake on my part, or strange translation?

Loooove the drawing. Times like these, I wished I had more talent at drawing.

Same in French. Immediately after that line I imagined Garrus saying "Do you want me to get blue?" instead of "red" and started giggling. Too bad they didn't go with it. I guess it would have confused some people.

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Karrie788 wrote...

Seleya_LL wrote...

Wow, indeed.
If this person insisted on "artistic integrity" to justify the final product, I would certainly not protest. Wonderful picture.

On blushing: No idea what turians do if they are embarrassed, but with their plating, I don't think blushing is an option. The romance-lines regarding blushing seem ironic / teasing to me as well.
Language fun (1): The German version is definitely pure irony. "Blushing" translates as "getting red", and that would be quite a task for a blue-blooded (in the literal sense) person.
Language fun (2): Being "blue-blooded" seems to be the same valid phrase in English and German. Didn't realize it until now.
Language fun (3): Garrus' hanar-poetry comment "This One feels like a flower". I still believe it is "feels like" in the metaphorical sense, perhaps "delicate" or whatever, but the German subtitles insist it's the literal sense, like "Arrrgh, damn, a thorn, now my finger hurts". Mistake on my part, or strange translation?

Loooove the drawing. Times like these, I wished I had more talent at drawing.

Same in French. Immediately after that line I imagined Garrus saying "Do you want me to get blue?" instead of "red" and started giggling. Too bad they didn't go with it. I guess it would have confused some people.


I always thought maybe their necks would blush.  Maybe not as visibly as a humans, but just a little.

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Seleya_LL wrote...

Language fun (3): Garrus' hanar-poetry comment "This One feels like a flower". I still believe it is "feels like" in the metaphorical sense, perhaps "delicate" or whatever, but the German subtitles insist it's the literal sense, like "Arrrgh, damn, a thorn, now my finger hurts". Mistake on my part, or strange translation?


That makes sense. Being fans of Mass Effect, we know that "This One" is essentially used as a first person pronoun when Hanar are speaking about themselves. But if you don't know that little tidbit (which I'm guessing the translator didn't), then reading that sentence, you would assume that you were refering to someone in the third person as "This One". In which case, I can see them using the tactile meaning for "feels" as it makes less sense to dictate to someone else how they feel emotionally.

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Janus Prospero wrote...

That makes sense. Being fans of Mass Effect, we know that "This One" is essentially used as a first person pronoun when Hanar are speaking about themselves. But if you don't know that little tidbit (which I'm guessing the translator didn't), then reading that sentence, you would assume that you were refering to someone in the third person as "This One". In which case, I can see them using the tactile meaning for "feels" as it makes less sense to dictate to someone else how they feel emotionally.

Very good point. Thanks for the explanation - usually the German translation is fine, and "obvious" mistakes like this tend to annoy me. But as you said, in this context the meaning is not obvious for the translator.

Another question that has probably been discussed before, but still makes me wonder: Does Garrus take his visor off when he sleeps?
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^Garrus never takes off his visor, we should know that by now.

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He can take off his visor if he's wearing a light armor with the helmet on in ME1. Other than that, he *always* wears it. Even in bed, apparently.

Modifié par Karrie788, 22 mai 2012 - 07:09 .


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You might suspect that FemShep likes it that way.

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Argraharg wrote...

You might suspect that FemShep likes it that way.

Guess it depends on the FemShep.

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I just did my renegade playthough and even though shep was male the Garrus goodbye was still so so sad! I was almost crying. Again.

Plus loving that pic of shep and garrus in bed. So cute!

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Eerie. I was working on a picture last night and debating that very question. O__o

He probably keeps it on in bed since the heart rate and temperature monitor works as a cheat sheet. ;P My Shepard would make him take it off whenever she could manage just because it blocks too much of his pretty face. xD

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Meanwhile trying to narrow down problems so I can get screenshots.. Reposting a fllycam pic, with link.

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mireisen wrote...

I've always wondered how Garrus would've reacted towards something like this.

Thoughts?


I wonder how it might go if other turian was Saren...

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kglaser wrote...

Keroa wrote...

I've been trying to keep up on this thread but it moves so fast hahaha
oh man


You think *this* is fast, you should have seen it back in 2010 or so.. /nostalgic!
I would wake up in the morning and have to read 30 pages...haha
Garrus is just that awe-inspiring B)

Ah yes. Those were the good old days. Where our discussions went on for PAGES with MOUNTAINS of text. I miss those.
BTW heys KG! Long time no see eh?
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Janus Prospero wrote...
Out of all the fanfictions I've read, I really like the way turian sexual behavior is described in Worst Case Scenario, where they are very attentitive to their partner's needs. It's just great juxtaposition with Saren, who is fairly self serving in every other regard.

I loved that story! And not just in the most obvious way, either. Really well-done IMO.

Derp - i havent read that one. And Ive read hundreads of FF. Lately the one Im reading is Sense & Flexibility. Its SO GOOD! @-@ And its not smutty. Heck, theres been no smut or kinkiness AT ALL. It just spans the 3 games telling the story of Shep & Garrus. ME1 is done and the story is currently just pasted Tali's LM [with just Jack's LM left to go]. Garrus and Shep still arent even together, but theres alot of fluff moments. I highly recommned it.
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now i cant wait til next monday of the next chapter @-< *eye twitch*

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Speaking of fanfics, may I have a beta reader? I don't even know what to give for its title...

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ArcanaLegacy wrote...
Ah yes. Those were the good old days. Where our discussions went on for PAGES with MOUNTAINS of text. I miss those.


I occasionally get nostalgic for the crazy run-up to ME2, when we were fairly sure Garrus was a squaddie but hadn't heard a peep on romance status.  So many emotional ups and downs while we tore apart and overanalyzed every word from the devs.

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

ArcanaLegacy wrote...
Ah yes. Those were the good old days. Where our discussions went on for PAGES with MOUNTAINS of text. I miss those.


I occasionally get nostalgic for the crazy run-up to ME2, when we were fairly sure Garrus was a squaddie but hadn't heard a peep on romance status.  So many emotional ups and downs while we tore apart and overanalyzed every word from the devs.

Suddenly I am very grateful that I "discovered" (as in "was talked into playing it") the saga when ME2 was already out. Too much drama ^^
Though I would have had a hard time imagining Garrus as "romance material" if my only source had been the original game. Both Tali and Garrus have matured so much - in Mass Effect, both seemed somehow too young to me, physically (Tali) and emotionally (both).

Since there are some Diablo-fans around: Is it true that Leah's voice should be quite familiar? If so - is it another VA in the trailers, or is the actress just that good? Wouldn't have recognized the voice, though I haven't played the game, perhaps she's easier to identify there.

@ArcanaLegacy: Just visit the author's blog and you should be able to get the next update of Sense and Flexibility on sunday. Just in case the withdrawal gets unbearable ;)

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Fellow Garrus Fans! Looking for a way to show Bioware your love of our favorite Turian?? If you are, please join a new fan initiative: #NoShepardWithoutVakarian. A group of us at HTL got together and decideed to join with other fan groups who are undergoing projects to show BW our continued love and support of our favorite LIs. As such we're trying to spread the word to get as many contributions as possible before sending BW a fanbook with collections of art, FanFic, letters, etc.

Let me be clear: This is NOT a protest. There are many venues through which a player can protest the endings of ME3 or anything of that nature. And while most of us on HTL are hoping to have fixed endings for the game and have come together for gamer advocacy, this particular project is seperate from those goals. We're doing this in the spirit of celebration, that's all. Letters contributed can certainly gush about Garrus and even request things we'd love to see in future content, but we ask that concerns specifically regarding any ongoing contention about the endings/PR/bugs/whatever be omitted. BW brought us some of the best LIs in any games out there and we'd like to show our support and appreciation: They deserve it.

Okay, so that out of the way!
The main page for the project: SAVOR ME!
A group on BSN started by the lovely miss_kimpossible: POP ME!

And if you get the references to 'savor' and 'pop', you get a cookie. ;)

Thanks for your time! ♥

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 The ones here that enjoy reading Fanfic I must really recommend you guys to read Sister Complex which is a little AU but still follow the ME3 storyline.  John Shepard bring his sister (Jane Shepard) onboard and guess who she want ;) Really nice reading semi AU stories! Makes a repetetive storyline a lot less repetitive ;) Still ongoing and recently updated :)

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kglaser wrote...

Janus Prospero wrote...
Out of all the fanfictions I've read, I really like the way turian sexual behavior is described in Worst Case Scenario, where they are very attentitive to their partner's needs. It's just great juxtaposition with Saren, who is fairly self serving in every other regard.


I loved that story!  And not just in the most obvious way, either.  Really well-done IMO.


DITTO this.  That story has become one of my fav fanfics, which is strange considering I'm not usually down for that kinda action. Just goes to show how well written words and sexy turian lovin' gets me EVERY time.  Posted Image

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Seleya_LL wrote...
Since there are some Diablo-fans around: Is it true that Leah's voice should be quite familiar? If so - is it another VA in the trailers, or is the actress just that good? Wouldn't have recognized the voice, though I haven't played the game, perhaps she's easier to identify there.


It's Jennifer Hale who voices Leah, in both the trailers and in the game.  Leah doesn't sound at all like FemShep, but I recognized her because the voice she uses for Leah is similar to the one for Bastila Shan in KOTOR.  

There are a couple of other VA tidbits in Diablo III; Gideon Emery (DAII's Fenris) turns up a few times, and Grey Delisle (Velanna from DA:A and Azula from Avatar) voices the female wizard.

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

It's Jennifer Hale who voices Leah, in both the trailers and in the game.  Leah doesn't sound at all like FemShep, but I recognized her because the voice she uses for Leah is similar to the one for Bastila Shan in KOTOR.  

There are a couple of other VA tidbits in Diablo III; Gideon Emery (DAII's Fenris) turns up a few times, and Grey Delisle (Velanna from DA:A and Azula from Avatar) voices the female wizard.


Thanks for the confirmation regarding Hale / Leah. The info regarding Bastila is even more interesting to me - I only played the German versions of KoTOR and Baldur's Gate II, and Bastila and Imoen share the same voice actress who really hits the "little sister" type in both roles. Given that I imagined "FemShep" when I read Hale / Bastila, I used to wonder who on Earth was responsible for picking Shan's voice. But if she sounds like Leah, it's a reasonable choice.
Grey Delisle should also voice a certain Drow Cleric. When Velanna sounds like Viconia from the original Baldur's Gate, I should probably try to reinstall DA:A. Somehow choosing English messed up the game for me, though it worked well in DA:O.

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A new chapter is up for Loved.

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Sialater wrote...

A new chapter is up for Loved.


Thanks for the info! I like your story, but usually miss updates due to the old habit of searching for Garrus-related fiction only.

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Seleya_LL wrote...

Sialater wrote...

A new chapter is up for Loved.


Thanks for the info! I like your story, but usually miss updates due to the old habit of searching for Garrus-related fiction only.


You don't like Shepard/Garrus?

Or... you can always subscribe?  :whistle: :D

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