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No Shepard Without Vakarian: Garrus Love and Turian Discussion


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dannybates

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@ArcanaLegacy Hmm I like your logic ;)

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A homage to the Calibrator (Dosen't look great since I used paint)

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Seriously though it was really a shame to only have two conversations with Garrus since he could have told Shepard about some of his missions on Omega it will be great to hear about them in the third game

Modifié par Drone223, 29 août 2011 - 08:20 .


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Hopefully, we'll be able to tell him to stop calibrating in 3.

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Ugh, conversations in general were horrible short in ME3. I know you can make mistakes, but I wonder what the thought process behind this decision was.

Perhaps they thought with enough quantity of squadmates we wouldn't care about less conversations with each of them?

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outmane wrote...

Im not too fond of the idea that head bump is the only turian kiss

Any sort of contact that serves to share a feeling/emotion/appreciation can serve as a kiss. I dont think it matters that much if they cant exactly kiss the same way. Shep can always kiss him on the 'beak' and Garrus can give her little beak bites (not teeth bites... maybe the adequate english word would be nibbleing?). And Turians look lke they have long enough tongue to get good use of it. Really wheres theres a will theres a way.


@Danny

Wow this is awsome. Made me think Shep could have told Garrus 'You want to put mood music on? Ok but you have to dance !'


I am always wondering why people think of the headbump as "turian kiss". It felt totally natural for me when I romanced Garrus with my femshep because my boyfriend and I am doing this very often since years. It is a short contact like stroking a hand or an arm but with a deep gaze in each other eyes. It is a gentle way to come someone closer and to show your affection - it was so sweet to see it with Garrus and Shepard. That does not mean that this is a turian way to "kiss".

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A headbump is totally sweet. It's how cats show affection, it's how my ex-best guy friend and I showed affection - believe me, a headbump can leave a smile on your face for hours. I prefer that and a hug over a kiss any day.

I don't think a headbump is a "turian kiss" - it could be since they lack the proper anatomy to do so. But a headbump may be the only way Shep and Garr-bear can "kiss" without Shep getting an allergic reaction. Or, am I thinking of something else? X\\\\D

Modifié par PhantomGinger, 30 août 2011 - 04:38 .


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I would more worry about Garrus than about Shepard - she even survived the poisoned drink at Omega and seems to have developed an immunity to sedatives (arrival). But with Garrus stopping a grenade with his face I am quite sure they don't give a damn about allergic reactions ;)

There may be a chance to get an allergic reaction but that doesn't mean that this will definitely happen. Or maybe there is an allergic reaction but that doesn't mean that it is deadly or dangerous - maybe it is only a little annoying but no real problem.

I think a french kiss is totally possible with Garrus but there are other ways to express feelings for each other.

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There's one more thing to take into consideration on the allergic reaction topic:

...do you really think Mordin was being 100% serious during that "sex talk" convo?

And yes, allergic reactions are not systematic. Not everyone is allergic to peanuts or eggs. Not everyone in the ME-verse is allergic to turians/humans. Especially not a heavily cybernetised someone like Shepard (I mean, she/he got hacked in Overlord).

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*sigh*

I hate the allergy discussion. I really really do.

To preface: I'm allergic to nearly everything on the planet. I need to buy stock in whomever makes zyrtek. I've had anaphylaxis and it wasn't fun.

The chances of Garrus and Shepard both being allergic to each other is slim to none. Even if both were born with that allergy to the opposite protein, chances are it would no longer exist for them. Shepard's an N7. Do y'all honestly think the Alliance would let one of their top soldiers be susceptible to something so preventable as an allergic reaction to the bodily fluids of the species they'd most likely be fighting? Gene therapy and allergy prevention therapies are possible now, so that even if Shepard was born with that allergy, it could be treated and gotten rid of.

Turians are even less likely. Garrus' species have been around asari and salarian and krogan and elcor for centuries. They've have found a way to keep those reactions from occurring, too. If anything, the turians would have figured it out during the Krogan Rebellions. Garrus also didn't seem to be restricted to just investigating turians, which is a reasonable precaution if he were allergic. He was, after all, sent after Saleon and that elcor serial killer.

So, no... I don't take Mordin seriously. Perhaps, if the couple were any other human/turian pairing, MAYBE I'd take his warning seriously. As it stands now? Uh....no.

Modifié par Sialater, 30 août 2011 - 01:40 .


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Nilfalasiel wrote...

And yes, allergic reactions are not systematic. Not everyone is allergic to peanuts or eggs. Not everyone in the ME-verse is allergic to turians/humans. Especially not a heavily cybernetised someone like Shepard (I mean, she/he got hacked in Overlord).


Good point. Never thought of that. :D

And I wasn't trying to argue that any form of intimacy was impossible, or not desired just because of an allergic reaction. I was making an observation, and y'all pointed out a good reason for me to believe that a kiss very well may be possible.

Trust me. When people come in the Joker Romance thread and say he shouldn't be romanced just because of his condition, it grinds our gears too. There are precautions the pair can take - there are precautions Garrus and Shepard will take if necessary, but they'll want to be together. Simple and lovely as that. :wub:

Modifié par PhantomGinger, 30 août 2011 - 03:02 .


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What if Shep get's hacked by Cerberus and kills Garrus? :3

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dannybates wrote...

What if Shep get's hacked by Cerberus and kills Garrus? :3


You think they wouldn't just make her kill herself?

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BubbleSauce wrote...

dannybates wrote...

What if Shep get's hacked by Cerberus and kills Garrus? :3


You think they wouldn't just make her kill herself?


Put yourself in their shoes. What would you rather see?

1. Your greatest enemy blow their own brains out.

OR

2. Your greatest enemy completely break down emotionally and psychologically because they killed their LI, which may well lead to them blowing their own brains out.

Anyway, I don't think Shep was 'hacked' at Overlord, in the sense of the VI taking over his/her consciousness, I think it just allowed Shep to see what it saw. 

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 Hey, you know when Jacob calls Garrus a cuttlebone, does he still say "I suppose you have a history" if you never recruited Garrus in ME1? - 

That is, if you can romance Garrus if you don't recruit him in ME1 in the first place - I wouldn't know, I never don't recruit Garrus, why would you even do such a thing. xD

Modifié par Thestral, 31 août 2011 - 05:17 .


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Sialater wrote...
*sigh*
I hate the allergy discussion. I really really do.

Oh Spirits - same here.

Mordin says its POSSIBLE. I never heard him says its GUARANTEED >.>

"Anaphylactic shock possible."

He's telling her to be careful that's all. If there was going to be some effect just straightout, then he'd tell her to not do it at all. Not everyone is going to have the same allergic reactions. Its like with meals. Some people will be allergic to some ingredient while others wont. Some will have severe reactions, while others will be slightly mild. Theres a chance! In Shepards case - Im quite certain that if she and Garrus got together and less than 2 hrs later, she managed to lead an entire team and destroy not only the collectors, but also a HUGE human reaper larva AND destroy their base -  I say everything went well.
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As for the turian "kiss" - its possible thats how they smooch. BUT that doesnt mean Garrus cant kiss the way humans do. Who can forget Patrick Weekes' tweet teasing at a potential ShepxGarrus french kiss in me3 Posted ImageAbout him tasting like Mesquite if we "kiss him deeply". Posted Image

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and just because Garrus looks hot here.....
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edit: @Thestral: Hmmm Thats true. Ive heard that line but if shep was never with Garrus in ME1, i guess that line just gets skipped. Like how a certain line gets skipped when you greet garrus in his recruitment in me2 and not having him in me1.

Modifié par ArcanaLegacy, 31 août 2011 - 05:27 .


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I certainly hope it gets skipped if you didn't recruit him*, because otherwise it doesn't make much sense. xD

*providing not recruiting him in One still allows you to romance him, anyway

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ArcanaLegacy wrote...

Sialater wrote...
*sigh*
I hate the allergy discussion. I really really do.

Oh Spirits - same here.


I can't decide what makes me facepalm more, the people that insist that "OH NOES GARRUS COULD KILL YOU!!" because mordin brought up a POSSIBLE reaction or the people who keep saying "Garrus himself says he's not attracted to shepard" WHEN HE DOESN'T SAY THIS! Posted Image

I think it's a tie

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 31 août 2011 - 05:29 .


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Thestral wrote...

 Hey, you know when Jacob calls Garrus a cuttlebone, does he still say "I suppose you have a history" if you never recruited Garrus in ME1? - 

That is, if you can romance Garrus if you don't recruit him in ME1 in the first place - I wouldn't know, I never don't recruit Garrus, why would you even do such a thing. xD


I never tested it myself and I couldn't find a comment on that on the wiki but I know I have read in the forum some times ago that people tried it and with a ME1 import without Garrus recruited a romance in ME2 would not be possible with him - I don't know if this is true, but it would be a nice feature.

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Eliantariel wrote...

Thestral wrote...

 Hey, you know when Jacob calls Garrus a cuttlebone, does he still say "I suppose you have a history" if you never recruited Garrus in ME1? - 

That is, if you can romance Garrus if you don't recruit him in ME1 in the first place - I wouldn't know, I never don't recruit Garrus, why would you even do such a thing. xD


I never tested it myself and I couldn't find a comment on that on the wiki but I know I have read in the forum some times ago that people tried it and with a ME1 import without Garrus recruited a romance in ME2 would not be possible with him - I don't know if this is true, but it would be a nice feature.


It's not possible because if you don't have a history with gar-bear you can't have the romance in the first place  Posted Image
It's actually very sweet that you need to have recruited him in order for the romance to happen.

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Eliantariel

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Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Eliantariel wrote...

Thestral wrote...

 Hey, you know when Jacob calls Garrus a cuttlebone, does he still say "I suppose you have a history" if you never recruited Garrus in ME1? - 

That is, if you can romance Garrus if you don't recruit him in ME1 in the first place - I wouldn't know, I never don't recruit Garrus, why would you even do such a thing. xD


I never tested it myself and I couldn't find a comment on that on the wiki but I know I have read in the forum some times ago that people tried it and with a ME1 import without Garrus recruited a romance in ME2 would not be possible with him - I don't know if this is true, but it would be a nice feature.


It's not possible because if you don't have a history with gar-bear you can't have the romance in the first place  Posted Image
It's actually very sweet that you need to have recruited him in order for the romance to happen.


Oh so it is really true? That is great - I am happy that Bioware included that.

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It is great that they included that feature. Just emphasises even more how much trust is important for the relationship.

AnimaTempli101 wrote...

Anyway, I don't think Shep was 'hacked' at Overlord, in the sense of the VI taking over his/her consciousness, I think it just allowed Shep to see what it saw. 


Yes, but this was possible because of Shep's cybernetic enhancements. So even if it's not full-on control, I'd still qualify it as hacking.

I'm wondering about Legion now...Since David was able to communicate with the geth, why did Legion not pick up on it? I know the real reason is that they just didn't implement squaddie comments, but really, Legion should've been aware of David.

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Oh hey thank you for confirming! I'm glad it's true and I'm happy Bioware did it that way - it's adorable and makes a lot of sense.

On another note, I love the comprehensiveness (is that a word?) of the OP of this thread, haha.

Modifié par Thestral, 31 août 2011 - 10:16 .


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We can safely say that headbump isnt a bad way to show affection per say... It should just not be restricted to that. As the relationship develops in ME3 there should be more 'affection sharing moments'.

Oh and that kissy pict (first one in Arcane post) is just so cute.

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dannybates wrote...

What if Shep get's hacked by Cerberus and kills Garrus? :3

Well ask yourself what is stronger: Cerberus software or Garrus charm?

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Nilfalasiel wrote...

It is great that they included that feature. Just emphasises even more how much trust is important for the relationship.

AnimaTempli101 wrote...

Anyway, I don't think Shep was 'hacked' at Overlord, in the sense of the VI taking over his/her consciousness, I think it just allowed Shep to see what it saw. 


Yes, but this was possible because of Shep's cybernetic enhancements. So even if it's not full-on control, I'd still qualify it as hacking.

I'm wondering about Legion now...Since David was able to communicate with the geth, why did Legion not pick up on it? I know the real reason is that they just didn't implement squaddie comments, but really, Legion should've been aware of David.


I think the only thing Legion could confirm was whether David was actually communicating with the geth and not just immitating their sounds.