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[EnvyTB075]

DiabolicReality wrote...

I don't really get why people get so excited about the extended cut.

It is still the same ending. That horrible piece of junk writing. Now there's just more of it.

Dunno about you guys, but if I complained about there being bugs in my soup, I wouldn't want the waiter to come in and toss more flies in it. I'd like a new soup thanks.

Completely agree, except for me the entire game is one big steaming pile of Turian poop. EC can't save ME3 for me, thats for sure.

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 22 juin 2012 - 10:12 .

[Baka-no-Neko]

Gosh, I've been away from here for yonks 8O Excitement for Tuesday =) Means I can finally finish mass effect 3 and have Bioware's explanation in full.

Modifié par Baka-no-Neko, 22 juin 2012 - 11:17 .

[DiabolicReality]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

DiabolicReality wrote...

I don't really get why people get so excited about the extended cut.

It is still the same ending. That horrible piece of junk writing. Now there's just more of it.

Dunno about you guys, but if I complained about there being bugs in my soup, I wouldn't want the waiter to come in and toss more flies in it. I'd like a new soup thanks.

Completely agree, except for me the entire game is one big steaming pile of Turian poop. EC can't save ME3 for me, thats for sure.

Hmm well, there were a lot of things that bothered me in the game, but it still had that feeling of 'awww yiss this is some epic stuff right here and we are gonna save everyone in a epic crescendo of AWESOME' for most of the game so I rolled with it and was ready to forgive the minor annoyances I ran into. Plus Garrus was adorable as hell so yeah.

Then I got to Thessia and Kai Leng showed up and destroyed the day with the help of ridiculous racial stereotype moves and plot armor. After that the entire game just went downhill, what with all the sudden unexplainable angst, storming the Cerberus HQ and Citadel being moved to Earth and...

Well I stopped playing after that. For me, the game simply ends on either Thessia, or during the Cerberus HQ raid.

[EnvyTB075]

DiabolicReality wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

DiabolicReality wrote...

I don't really get why people get so excited about the extended cut.

It is still the same ending. That horrible piece of junk writing. Now there's just more of it.

Dunno about you guys, but if I complained about there being bugs in my soup, I wouldn't want the waiter to come in and toss more flies in it. I'd like a new soup thanks.

Completely agree, except for me the entire game is one big steaming pile of Turian poop. EC can't save ME3 for me, thats for sure.

Hmm well, there were a lot of things that bothered me in the game, but it still had that feeling of 'awww yiss this is some epic stuff right here and we are gonna save everyone in a epic crescendo of AWESOME' for most of the game so I rolled with it and was ready to forgive the minor annoyances I ran into. Plus Garrus was adorable as hell so yeah.

Then I got to Thessia and Kai Leng showed up and destroyed the day with the help of ridiculous racial stereotype moves and plot armor. After that the entire game just went downhill, what with all the sudden unexplainable angst, storming the Cerberus HQ and Citadel being moved to Earth and...

Well I stopped playing after that. For me, the game simply ends on either Thessia, or during the Cerberus HQ raid.

First play through i can agree. However now on subsequent play throughs i cannot help but notice the cracks in the plot, the thorough lack of dialogue options, the streamlined "Shepard" (i don't want to feel THAT bad about Thessia ffs), all the technical glitches (pull pistol over shoulder wut)...oh and i knew what Kai Leng represented the instant i saw that f***ing ponytail. "Lets put ALL the Ninja stereotypes into one character in a sci-fi game, that'll be awesome!"

<_<

The only thing thats somewhat enjoyable about ME3 now is the MP and the Garrus sequences. Everything else....well i'd play Gears if i wanted Gears, not ME.

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 23 juin 2012 - 12:19 .

[Armdin]

I'm feeling a little conflicted regarding my feelings towards EC. On one hand I was fairly happy with the story up until Thessia, and the sudden cut off from the story was reeling for me. I'm glad EC is going to -apparently- cover what's happened, and give more closure but I'm frightened of what it'll do with my head canon. At the moment it's going something like this:

• Allied the Quarians and Geth.
• Pushed Joker and EDI to start a relationship.
• Had over 7,000 EMS (more importantly, Shepard lived/breathes).
• Picked Destroy. Always.

Now with this, I believe because I convinced EDI and Joker to just go for it (and got the "It is you who made me feel truely alive" speech from EDI), EDI was supsequently different enough from the Repears coding that she doesn't go kaput. Simarly, from being able to unite both the Geth and the Quarians - the code Legion uploads is again different from the Repear code (because Legion uploaded himself in a way, and we all know how special our Legion is) and they too are spared from the Destroy wave - proving the Catalyst wrong and thus giving more hope to the future of the Galaxy. Furthermore, my Jane wouldn't stop to help set the Galaxy back on the right path - setting out with the survivor squaddies to find new ways to get the Mass Relays functional/find new methods altogether or help get her friends home (she and Garrus retire somewhere after that me thinks).

One of my friends basically says my head canon is just more space magic and rainbow-pooping happy, but I depend on this to like the ending. I'm worried if EC comes along and blows all that away I really can't come back to the ME series - and that'd be such a giant shame. My head-canon only works so long as it's not blown away by complete canon (which EC will become).

So, yeah, long story short - I'm apprehensive.

Modifié par Armdin, 23 juin 2012 - 12:35 .

[EnvyTB075]

Sci Fi is always allowed some space magic (eezo), but not on the scale of synthesis, that and your scenario is actually plausible.

And i still don't get why a "rainbow-pooping happy" ending is so incredibly wrong. Shepard has already died once, getting killed again for the sake of a memorable ending is just pointless.

[Niostang]

I'd love a spectrum of endings, from rainbow poop made of sparkles and kittens to a soul-destroying-fall-to-your-knees-ugly-crying "NOOOOOOOOO!!!!"

In a way I kind of miss the hope I had that the EC could be everything I need because I could at least cling to my optimism. Now we have something concrete, knowing that I could be disappointed all over is vaguely anxiety-inducing.

[flippedeclipse]

Niostang wrote...

I'd love a spectrum of endings, from rainbow poop made of sparkles and kittens to a soul-destroying-fall-to-your-knees-ugly-crying "NOOOOOOOOO!!!!"

In a way I kind of miss the hope I had that the EC could be everything I need because I could at least cling to my optimism. Now we have something concrete, knowing that I could be disappointed all over is vaguely anxiety-inducing.

Amen to this. I'm not ready to have my heart broken again either.

[EnvyTB075]

Niostang wrote...

I'd love a spectrum of endings, from rainbow poop made of sparkles and kittens to a soul-destroying-fall-to-your-knees-ugly-crying "NOOOOOOOOO!!!!"

I always assumed this would actually happen...because y'know, ME2 and all with its varied endings based on how much you cared about your squaddies and such...

[Karrie788]

Yep, I was surprised we didn't have an "EPIC FAIL" kind of ending, as we did in ME2. I mean yeah, you had to really screw up to have Shepard killed, but it was THERE. It could happen. In ME3, no matter what, the Reapers lose? Unlikely. (assuming that they lose even if you pick Control or Synthesis...)

[Seleya_LL]

flippedeclipse wrote...

Niostang wrote...

I'd love a spectrum of endings, from rainbow poop made of sparkles and kittens to a soul-destroying-fall-to-your-knees-ugly-crying "NOOOOOOOOO!!!!"

In a way I kind of miss the hope I had that the EC could be everything I need because I could at least cling to my optimism. Now we have something concrete, knowing that I could be disappointed all over is vaguely anxiety-inducing.

Amen to this. I'm not ready to have my heart broken again either.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

But about the canon-thing: Perhaps it is due to mod-use in other games (BG, Elder Scrolls series), but I won't consider an avoidable DLC "personal canon" if I don't like it. Same with Arrival - didn't like it, didn't play it, and I certainly don't play my Shepard(s) with that "I killed XXXXXX Batarians" trauma over his / her head.
So, if the EC offers rainbow-butterfly-spacemagic-happiness: Canon!!! And if I happen to visit Canada, I'll visit that bakery responsible for the cupcake thing a while ago and make them send some more cupcakes to Bioware myself.
If not - well, easy decision: Uninstall DLC (or not install at all if I am warned before), forget the whole EC mess and headcanon / mod my own ending again. Perhaps without butterflies, but certainly with a rainbow or two. Still believe that Shepard deserves it.

[Karrie788]

I admit I wish I wasn't European right now. You guys will tell us if the EC is worth downloading, right? :3

[DiabolicReality]

Karrie788 wrote...

I admit I wish I wasn't European right now. You guys will tell us if the EC is worth downloading, right? :3

It is only the PS3 users in Europe that get the DLC late. Everyone else can DL it in June.


I think I'm just gonna watch the EC on youtube. Saves me the trouble of actually forcing myself to play through the ending.

[Karrie788]

Oh, thanks for the info!

I'm way too excited/apprehensive about all this.

[Armdin]

Sadly for the PS3 user that I am, I'm getting EC on July 4th :C
Happily for me, however, July 4th is also my birthday C:

[Mresa]

Damn I better get my Xbox fixed ASAP now! Stupid rrod for killing it earlier...

I'm having difficult time to believe that the EC will really fix the ending. It could be a very pleasant surprise or make me never want to play the game ever again, except after a fairly long time. Maybe.

[Seleya_LL]

DiabolicReality wrote...
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I think I'm just gonna watch the EC on youtube. Saves me the trouble of actually forcing myself to play through the ending.

Personal "how to survive ME pre-ending scenes without destroying a potentially good mood" routine:
For longer "cinematic" parts which have dialogue after it: Ctrl-Alt-Del to desktop, do something else, come back when mess is over. Longer (and also shorter) parts that require interaction: Turn down volume, turn some music on and pretend it's either a creepy training parcour or a weird dream. 

And (if on PC): As soon as the Catalyst has finished reading its "how to ruin ME"-manual, Ctrl-Alt-Del to desktop, to the ME save game folder, copy-pasting the autosave and renaming it makes it possible to still have the ending choices while not having to play through the parts before. Same process after making the choice even skips the last metres of slow-motion.


Completely unrelated fun fact: The European Football Championship has started, and before every game, the national anthems are played. But before that, another "hymn" is played, and that one is the "final part" of the ME2 launch trailer music, "Heart of Courage". Don't know if true for every game, though, and the track was also (for example) used to promote TV productions, but I still find it funny every time I hear it.

[garrusfan1]

 Wonder if it will mention if garrus and fem shep adopt a kid together or have the first human and turian baby together anyone agree

[DiabolicReality]

garrusfan1 wrote...

 Wonder if it will mention if garrus and fem shep adopt a kid together or have the first human and turian baby together anyone agree

Considering how you get the choice to go along with Garrus' in that dialogue, or tell him it isn't that much of a great idea, I really don't hope they force the 'adopt babieeesss' thing on every Shepard.

And turian/human cross is not biologically possible. Period. Even Shepard knows that.

Plus, there's just too many options to marginalize it anyway. Someone wants their Shepard to adopt Krogans, someone wants to actually have their Shepard carry and birth a human kid, someone wants to adopt half the damn galaxy just for the sake of variety.

And then there's the people like me who can't stand kids, and who has played her Shepard as a person who has never wanted kids in her entire life. She might warm up to the idea of adopting a turian baby sometime in the future. Maybe. But she'd rather take a bullet to the brain than actually carry a child.

They did way too much marginalizing of Shepard's character with the lack of wide range in dialogue choices in the game. They really shouldn't do it with this too.

[flippedeclipse]

I don't think it'll go far enough to show something like that, maybe mention it. That's assuming we get a reunion, of course, which I'm really hoping we do. There are not enough words to say how much I despise jungle planet if not.

Modifié par flippedeclipse, 23 juin 2012 - 09:58 .

[Seleya_LL]

Adoption, "Asari-style reproduction for human / turians", human babies... If that means "reunion", "happy end" and everything, even my most "eh, no kids for me"-Shepard will reconsider.
I'd probably even stomach hybrid children in the above case, though I am not a fan of the whole (theoretical and hopefully impossible) mutant baby idea.

[DiabolicReality]

Seleya_LL wrote...

Adoption, "Asari-style reproduction for human / turians", human babies... If that means "reunion", "happy end" and everything, even my most "eh, no kids for me"-Shepard will reconsider.
I'd probably even stomach hybrid children in the above case, though I am not a fan of the whole (theoretical and hopefully impossible) mutant baby idea.

I don't want to be coerced into changing my Shepard's character so I can get the ending she deserves.

That just pisses me off. Granted I'll still be headcanoning the end so whatever. But really.

[garrusfan1]

Diabolicreality it was a joke about the human turian baby and depending on the conversation it means you have a kid or not

[flippedeclipse]

 Well, babies or not, I'm going to be writing out my headcanon all night. I don't want to forget it, just in case my Shep never sees her crew again . Definitely needed more warning on the EC lol.

[Janus Prospero]

I've been thinking a lot about the ending lately in the wake of the EC announcement. It's difficult to assess a potential what-if ending that is supposed to elicit an emotional response, but here are my thoughts.

The night that I beat the game was an especially long play session, as I was determined to make the final push to the end before going to bed. Thessia onward was just so emotionally exhausting for me (in a good way), reaching its peak at the Thanix cannon defense. I did my first ME3 play through on Insanity, which along with the incredible voice acting by Jennifer Hale, really reinforced the feeling of going up against a relentless unstoppable force. Then the ending just left me emotionally numb. The whole thing was akin to orgasm denial. There's a ton of build up, but then no payoff.

Even though I have many problems with the ending besides this, if I had just gotten a scene of Garrus lamenting his separation with or loss of Shepard, then maybe the levee would have broke, I could have cried, and just gotten it all out of my system. With the upcoming EC and the knowledge that many of the voice actors (including the LIs) are returning, I think that there is a good chance that we'll get that scene with our respective love interests. I'm excited by this prospect, but at the same time kind of disappointed. I'm never going to be able to recreate the emotional state I was in when I played the game the first time. My biggest fear is that had the EC been implemented for my initial play through, it would have been exactly what I needed to put Shepard's tale to bed, but now, nearly four months later it will be too little too late.

I have my fingers crossed. I'd like to say that I'm cautiously optimistic about the EC, but really I'm just cautious at this point. I hope that the EC will at the very least take the bite out of the ending, but what I really want is release.


ETA: My first TOP!

How about something more lighthearted?


Source: QueenSimia

Modifié par Janus Prospero, 24 juin 2012 - 08:21 .