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[nebezial]

oh god! the technocrotch of doom XD

[k8ee]

if by doom you mean hot sexiness, then YES.

Also, I have just the thing to resurrect this thread.. uhh but it's saved on my computer at work (yeah I get a lot of work done during the day... *snort*) So it will have to wait until tomorrow.

In the mean time... uhhh hmmm


I want to give credit for this image but I just stole it from some other thread and they didn't give credit either... an oldie, but a goodie

[Asenza]

Not much I can say that hasn't already been said, but what I really liked about Garrus' romance in ME2 was the fact that he said, "I'm not going to pretend to have a fetish for humans..."

...Not that it's impossible for Turians to see humans in a sexual way- that Turian accosting the Asari (blue human) in the VIP lounge of Afterlife during Samara's loyalty mission didn't have any issue with her not being a Turian.

But back to what I was getting at, it was the acknowledgment of the physical differences between their species, that I liked. Making the relationship sexual, much like making the move from friends to partners, is something that must be worked on, that will take more time. That will be awesome to see Shepard and Garrus being more comfortable with both the physical and emotional aspects of their relationship.

That's what I want to see in ME3, their relationship going past the previous mentor/protégé dynamic.

[k8ee]

Ah yeah, speaking of which, I have a question for everyone... well, everyone who is listening.

The previous discussion about wtf was Garrus doing on Omega, and the above statement got me wondering... What has Garrus been doing between ME2 and ME3? I read somewhere, ages ago, about how much time was supposed to have passed between the two games, but for the life of me I can't remember now. It was a tweet - if anyone knows, please post it.

Anyway, what I'm getting at is, if we romanced Garrus in ME2, what has he been doing in the mean time, since it seems he won't be with us at the beginning of the game - just like in ME2.

What do you think he's been doing? Does the fact that he's not backing you up at your trial a ****** off, or do you think BW will pull the 'Garrus had to be with his family because his mom is dying and now he's stuck on Palaven' plot device? (or maybe the Salarian homeworld, since doesn't it say in the SB dossiers that it's a Salarian group that is working on the treatment for whatever his mom has?)

The way he speaks in ME2 - it sounds like he doesn't really have anything or anyone else in the galaxy, you'd think he'd be there backing you up on your decision. Even the chat he has with his sister - it seems reluctant, sarcastic and sad. I realize he's going on a suicide mission, but you'd think he'd have a few more... i don't know... meaningful things to say?

Just curious... As for the other LIs I can see Tali having better things to do (the flotilla and geth and whatnot), Liara is playing SB, and Jack, well, she seems to be about the casual relationships (although I haven't actually played that romance so maybe I shouldn't be commenting on it), Jacob... well, he 'loves' you, but a Cerberus witness at your trial seems unlikely. Thane? Well, if he's still alive, he's probably with his son? Miranda... errr, who cares. lol

Kaidan/Ashely I can see being there...

And Grunt... wait, he's not an LI...

Just curious what you guys think he's been up to.

[ArcanaLegacy]

OMGROFLOL! That gif this made my day XDDDDDD
I used to lurk around Clan V, though times i went - it was kinda quiet-ish.
And gah! Eradyn! Come back! XP *hugs*

@K8ee: I read something about that too! Though Ive heard BW refer to some things as well.
At the beginning of ME3, we dont KNOW for a fact the LI is there or not, so to speak. No ones there in the trial [LI-wise anyways]. Ash/Kai meet up with Shep later on the Normandy when escaping earth. The rest all scattered throughout the galaxy, fulfilling their own agendas AND preparing for the Reapers since Shepard is somewhat "busy". What this means for Garrus i dont know. I think we'll get a glimpse of the LI in the beginning prior to Shepards on trial - similar to ME2. We saw the LI before Sheps death then flash forward 2 yrs. I think it'll be the same in the sense we see Shepard & the Normandy get detained, see the LI, then flash forward some months to the mid trial/invasion of Reapers. BW said Sheps been detained on Earth for some time, but never said we'll get to SEE her get detained. Plus ME2 to ME3 is b/w 6months to a year. I know Garrus would have been with Shepard before going into custody for sure. Afterwards, while Shep is on earth, is a mystery.

Hmmmm lets try connecting some dots here.
Apparently we have Garrus in the squad by the time we go to Sur'kesh. BW said that was quite early in the game. We had to travel there and Mordin was already on the planet when we arrived. Trying to safely escort "Eve" offworld to apparently secure an alliance b/w the turians & krogans. Wrex is there also, in a vehicle trying to land. According to dialog from Garrus in a demo, he said that "Mordin was right. Cerberus mustve been tipped off. They got here too fast." So that leaves me to think we might have Garrus even prior to Sur'kesh and not just meet him there.
My theory: We head to tuchanka and then sur'kesh. Possibly Garrus could be with Wrex working on the "alliance problem" and we meet him there. Thus everyone going to Sur'kesh and seeing as theres some battle going on, Shepard lands first. The whole time Wrex seems to be flying around cuz he says he can't land with all the fighting going on. 

Or we just get garrus earlier then that?.....Ok im rambling now XD

BTW - Thane IS alive  Confirmed at PAX. He's out and about in the galaxy in some action. What the heck he's doing is left unknown.
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I wont be surprised if ME3 starts pulling out crotch shots.
I mean seriously....Im SURE im not the only fangirl here to have noticed quite the handful of Garrus butt shots in me2

Modifié par ArcanaLegacy, 02 septembre 2011 - 03:53 .

[Bugsie]

Arcana, I'm glad my goofy gif made your day.

I'm having a crappy week, so turning to my favourite turian and ME character makes things a little brighter. Bonus if I can make others smile.

And fantastic news about Thane!

[Twilight_Princess]

so much...garrus booty



it's beautiful

[silentstephi]

Work it.
Also ... that gif? Totally posting it to Tumblr.

[lovgreno]

@ Arcanalegacy:

[Nilfalasiel]

*hugs for Bug*

About Garrus not being present at Shep's trial, remember that this would be a military trial. Meaning only Alliance personnel and no external attendees. That bars any alien squaddies already, LIs or not LIs. Heck, even Ash/Kaidan seem to be barred from attending, if they're only picking Shep up afterwards (or maybe they're not attending because they're busy planning to pull her/his butt out).

[Twilight_Princess]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

*hugs for Bug*

About Garrus not being present at Shep's trial, remember that this would be a military trial. Meaning only Alliance personnel and no external attendees. That bars any alien squaddies already, LIs or not LIs. Heck, even Ash/Kaidan seem to be barred from attending, if they're only picking Shep up afterwards (or maybe they're not attending because they're busy planning to pull her/his butt out).

That makes sense but I still am hoping for a scene before the trial or maybe a garrus and shepard conversation that plays over the beginning  cinematic of the trial if you know what I mean. As if shepard were remembering it. Just to make it clear that he wanted to be there but couldn't.

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 02 septembre 2011 - 08:20 .

[Leonia]

I'm hoping we actually get to see Shepard being arrested and maybe that's where she gets to say "goodbye" to the crew and her LI before she sits in a cell on Earth waiting for trial. It has the potential to be dramatic and emotional, no way is the LI (especially Garrus) going to let that go quietly regardless if Shepard is turning herself in or not. Ideally, I'd like a scene on Earth, just before the trial where the LI gets to visit Shepard and give some words of encouragement but this is starting to seem more and more unlikely with us being forced to re-recruit our team post-trial. Maybe they will get to have a conversation via video uplink on the extranet? Not nearly as fun as a physical conversation but could be better than nothing and it could show us the emotion for both Shepard and the LI when the link ends and they are each on their own, contemplating what will happen next.

Modifié par leonia42, 02 septembre 2011 - 08:37 .

[Ariadnee]

ZOMG Dat Ass...

[k8ee]

@ArcanaLegacy  First of all your butt montage was fantastic and only missing music, which i have provided here: link  LOL

You're probably right, about having the momentary encounter with our LI at the beginning of the game, just like in ME2 - maybe to remind some of the err less intense fans/players who it was they were fooling around with in the previous game. And it will be nice to get some sort of emotional feedback from Garrus after the so called blowing off steam session (I still feel robbed that other LIs, like Tali, had something to say afterwards, where as Garrus, what does he say? Something about not having forgotten what they talked about, which was just a rehashed line from earlier, right?)

That is an interesting idea - that Garrus is helping Wrex figure out common ground between the krogans and turians. Although you have to wonder why the reapers wouldn't go to tuchanka right away. I mean do the krogan have ships? or any real defenses? They don't seem to have the economy to support such large scale military operations - and thus an easy target. But that's an entirely different discussion.

@Nilfalasiel  Right, it's a military trial. I'd forgotten that - though you'd think the Batarians would want the trial to be as public as possible. Also - maybe we'll have a few moments at the Citadel with the council denouncing us, etc, etc. They seem to enjoy it, especially now since they have enough problems with the Batarians already.

@leonia42  YES THIS. I know in 'Arrival' Shepard can say she's going to come to earth and face the charges, but it would be so much more entertaining if they take her down while she's doing something important - like discovering some evidence of a hacked reaper, or whatever and then having your LI freaking out while they drag you away. Good times.

A scene with the LI on earth, before the trial, would be a great addition. Shep could ask them to keep fighting, that yadda yadda has to be done. It would make the most sense to me if Shep asks the LI to go get things done without her.

[outmane]

Im also thinking the trial will be a military one. I could understand the VS and Anderson being there to corroborate or oppose what you say (maybe thats where the <cheating will have consequences> will happen) but i dont think they will let aliens and Cerberus in while they discuss military matters.

I could see a goodbye scene with the LI before you hit Earth. Id be surprised if they give it lots of dialogue but they could show some affection (by opposition to the ME2 intro).

[Sialater]

Nah, I'm thinking the game will be opening on Shepard in a cell awaiting her court-martial.

[Surmansuuhun]

k8ee wrote...

 Although you have to wonder why the reapers wouldn't go to tuchanka right away.

Krogan/Reaper Hybrids.

That seems sufficient.

EDIT: Er, I read your quoted comment wrong. I read it as why they WOULD go. Derp.

Modifié par Surmansuuhun, 02 septembre 2011 - 02:53 .

[Leonia]

Sialater wrote...

Nah, I'm thinking the game will be opening on Shepard in a cell awaiting her court-martial.

It's a trial by military tribunal but I doubt it's a court martial; the Alliance doesn't want anyone to know they sent Shepard into batarian space and Shepard is no longer working for the Alliance at this point in the story. They wanted to bring Shepard in for questioning before about working for Cerberus but even that would have just been a hearing, not a full on trial ordeal. I'm still anxious to see how things work out if Shepard is still a Spectre and what the Council's reaction (or lack thereof) might be.

Some good ideas floating around here involving the LI at the start of the game, I hope whatever they do is a bit more touching than the five or so seconds that the ME1 LI had at the start of ME2. It was so brief and their reactions to Shepard are the same regardless if they were romanced or not.

Of course, if ME3 starts off emotional and becomes a rollercoaster ride all the way to the end.. I wouldn't really complain but it might start to feel overwhelming if it's non-stop drama. There needs to be moments of levity with the LI as well, not all of it has to be so serious business.

[Sialater]

Hackett said you were still Alliance in Arrival. He said to wear your dress blues (if you tell him you're surrendering).

So yeah, it's a court-martial and they're more likely to be hushed up than any "tribunal." And it's already common knowledge they sent Shepard into batarian space, or there wouldn't BE a trial of any flavor at all. The trial is about Arrival, whether you played it or not, not just about Cerberus.

[Leonia]

Never said it was about Cerberus besides that's Hackett's response to paragons only. I was only talking about the last time they tried to arrest Shepard and how that proves Shepard isn't governed by Alliance politics any more, she is a civilian more or less throughout all of ME2.

You can't be court marshalled if you're not in the Alliance any more. They listed Shepard as KIA, remember? And now they expect her to act like she's still one of their soldiers and play along with their rules? Maybe goody little paragons will be ok with that but not all Shepards would react that way.

They abandoned her and took no credit for sending her through that mission on Arrival, remember the whole bit about "not doing it for the Alliance but as a personal favour to Hackett"? Also remember that Hackett never accepted the report that Shepard tried to hand him at the end?

Shepard is non-Alliance and taking the fall so the Alliance doesn't have to reveal what they were really doing in batarian space, Shepard is their sacrificial lamb to prevent a war with the batarians of which they would have been responsible for starting had Shepard not provided a convenient scapegoat. It's the Alliance military putting a civilian who used to be Alliance on trial so they don't have to admit what they were up to.

It's not a court marshall; it's a trial trying to convict Shepard of war crimes that she committed as an individual without the support of the Alliance.

Modifié par leonia42, 02 septembre 2011 - 03:12 .

[Sialater]

I agree with you to a certain extent. Just pointing out that not all Shepards are non-Alliance any more. Just like some aren't Spectres anymore.

That's why I doubt we'll have a scene to start with with the LI. For one thing, not everyone will have one. (I have a single Shep for both ME1 & 2 and a Kaidan "faithful" Shep.)

[Leonia]

That's true, but as they did with the ME1 LIs.. they still showed up in the beginning if they weren't LIs but were alive (that is, if you romanced nobody, you might have seen Kaidan, Liara, or Ashley helping evacuate people). They could try to do something like that again, maybe with one of the plot-armoured people showing up for Shepards that didn't romance anyone (Joker, Dr. Chakwas, Liara, etc.) maybe giving a positive pep talk before the trial. Who knows, I just think it'd be a nice way to bridge the gap and give a nod to folks who imported, even if it's a brief exchange.

I don't think any Shepards are still Alliance, not even Paragons that say they will turn themselves in, until Anderson or someone re-instates them (as we see in the Earth demo, for example). But I could be wrong there. The way I see it, at the end of ME2, Shepard isn't really aligned with anybody.. not Cerberus (even if she turned the base over), not Alliance, not the Council.

[Sialater]

At least one of my Shepards will always be Alliance no matter what they tell her. She's that paragon.

[k8ee]

I'm going to have disagree with you there Sialater. Hackett says you're still Alliance, but I took that as him pointing out where her loyalties were, among other things (such as noting that the Normandy was being run, not as a Cerberus vessel, but as an Alliance vessel). Even if she's not taking orders from them (and they don't even seem to be contacting her in any way other than sending the VS to spy) I figured that they either believe she is someone/something else or a mercenary traitor working for Cerberus - well probably both - and thus would have already given her a dishonourable discharge/continued to say she's dead.

At the most her status as being MIA will change to AWOL. The trial will probably cover that charge, as well as working for Cerberus (although they had lots of time to bring her in for that crime) and for the most obvious reason of the 300 000 dead batarians (the trial being a move to avoid war)-

I'm just rambling now, but what I'm getting at is Hackett tells her to show up with her dress blues on because of the implications. He knows she did what had to be done, and by surrendering and showing that her loyalties still lie with the Alliance, she can at least be lynched with some dignity and honour.

As for the LI, I'm almost certain we'll see them in the beginning because it's good story telling - The beginning of ME2 recapped a bunch of story points players may have gotten a little fuzzy on - including who your LI was. For people who haven't played the first and second game, and who perhaps use the save game editor, there will need to be a bit of back story before the trial.

And since the LIs probably won't be at the trial, are we going to see a reunion a la Horizon in ME3 (without the anger, obviously). I'm looking forward to seeing a little Garrus reunion love.

All that said, I could be entirely full of crap because I haven't really been reading any of the news or watching the trailers/interviews - but I'm at work, and I'm bored.

[k8ee]

Oh hell, leonia42's already said it all.