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No Shepard Without Vakarian: Garrus Love and Turian Discussion


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 So..I got a review yesterday on Loved where I was basically yelled at for my Shepard allowing Garrus to come along on Mordin's recruitment mission.  And because Meghan yelled at him for insisting he was fine and good to go instead of admitting he wasn't.

Er.... what? :huh:

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Yeah I keep changing my mind about the Talibrations thing as well. Right now it bothers me, but a small part of me still thinks it's cute.

I prefer the dynamic between them as friends though.

Sialater wrote...

 So..I got a review yesterday on Loved where I was basically yelled at for my Shepard allowing Garrus to come along on Mordin's recruitment mission.  And because Meghan yelled at him for insisting he was fine and good to go instead of admitting he wasn't.

Er.... what? :huh:

"Er... what?" covers it pretty well, yes.

I have some Shepards who allow Garrus to come along during that mission, some who don't. I don't see what the big deal is...

Modifié par Karrie788, 18 juillet 2012 - 05:27 .


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Karrie788 wrote...

Yeah I keep changing my mind about the Talibrations thing as well. Right now it bothers me, but a small part of me still thinks it's cute.

I prefer the dynamic between them as friends though.

Sialater wrote...

 So..I got a review yesterday on Loved where I was basically yelled at for my Shepard allowing Garrus to come along on Mordin's recruitment mission.  And because Meghan yelled at him for insisting he was fine and good to go instead of admitting he wasn't.

Er.... what? :huh:

"Er... what?" covers it pretty well, yes.

I have some Shepards who allow Garrus to come along during that mission, some who don't. I don't see what the big deal is...


Yeah... I have no idea.  I thanked them for the review.  I'm just still scratching my head.

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Sialater wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Yeah I keep changing my mind about the Talibrations thing as well. Right now it bothers me, but a small part of me still thinks it's cute.

I prefer the dynamic between them as friends though.

Sialater wrote...

 So..I got a review yesterday on Loved where I was basically yelled at for my Shepard allowing Garrus to come along on Mordin's recruitment mission.  And because Meghan yelled at him for insisting he was fine and good to go instead of admitting he wasn't.

Er.... what? :huh:

"Er... what?" covers it pretty well, yes.

I have some Shepards who allow Garrus to come along during that mission, some who don't. I don't see what the big deal is...


Yeah... I have no idea.  I thanked them for the review.  I'm just still scratching my head.


Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it a huge risk what they are doing all together anyways? And by that mind set, we would have to yell at Bioware for taking Tali along too, for fear of getting sick for...just about everything.

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Ah don't stress over one reviewer getting their panties in a wad. They obviously don't understand Garrus. My Shep always takes him. She tells him to go back but when he argues she goes "Lol, your funeral, Boss." And when he starts with the not feeling good, I imagine her nagging him like a cranky wife through the whole thing. "I TOLD you to go back. But, no, who listens to me? 'Ah yes, deadly illness, we have dismissed that claim'. Well I dismiss the claim that I'm gonna be bringing you crackers and juice while you're coughing up a lung in the medbay. *grumble grumble*" But she totally would.

tl;dr - haters gon' hate. I really like your story, btw. I've barely scratched the surface, though. I WILL get caught up one of these days. :P

Modifié par Soltana, 18 juillet 2012 - 09:25 .


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People might be interested that the preview pages for the Garrus comic are up. And a random Garrus dad appears! http://www.darkhorse...s/20-460?page=0

Modifié par Mims, 19 juillet 2012 - 02:58 .


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YES! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS! THANKYOUMIMSYOU'REMYHERO

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Saw that earlier! I'm impressed that the artist actually knows how to draw turians.

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*delurks*

Finally! So far that looks like the best Dark Horse comic so far. Garrus isn't green or isn't making derpy faces. I would actually buy that comic.

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The old man was a little "ACTION LINES/WRINKLES" but yes it looks much better than it's previous installments XD;

And you know

I kinda look forward to...






























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You know you want pt.2 of this, it's okay.

Modifié par Sorael.A, 19 juillet 2012 - 10:42 .


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Wow that comic looks great! Thank you for the link. Is there anyway Brits can get it? Also I have been thinking of playing ME online but I'm not sure - sometimes the online play kinds ruins it for me, but what do you guys think?

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Mims wrote...

People might be interested that the preview pages for the Garrus comic are up. And a random Garrus dad appears! http://www.darkhorse...s/20-460?page=0

After checking those pages my first thought was 'His face looks weird, he has no scars.'
Took me a few seconds to realize what the problem was. xD

Looks pretty good, hoping I can get it in the Netherlands, I also ordered the Garrus action figure, just waiting for the Tali one (that one looks really good!).

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Oh look. Someone who took the effort to draw turians remotely accurately. It's amazing what competence can do for audience perception and headshake/facepalm minimisation.

If I was one of the artists of the previous comics I'd be laughing as I rubbed money earned from drawing those comics all over my body while screeching "lulz I don't even know wtf I was drawingggggurrglrglruglrlurg." Because honestly, Wot. The. Eff. MASSIVE SIDE EYE ERNYBUDDY?

Wouldn't you, I don't know, try to hire people who could actually draw your IP above the skill-level of "derp"?

Modifié par Niostang, 19 juillet 2012 - 02:44 .


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Soltana wrote...

Ah don't stress over one reviewer getting their panties in a wad. They obviously don't understand Garrus. My Shep always takes him. She tells him to go back but when he argues she goes "Lol, your funeral, Boss." And when he starts with the not feeling good, I imagine her nagging him like a cranky wife through the whole thing. "I TOLD you to go back. But, no, who listens to me? 'Ah yes, deadly illness, we have dismissed that claim'. Well I dismiss the claim that I'm gonna be bringing you crackers and juice while you're coughing up a lung in the medbay. *grumble grumble*" But she totally would.

tl;dr - haters gon' hate. I really like your story, btw. I've barely scratched the surface, though. I WILL get caught up one of these days. :P


Aww, thank you!

I think it just boils down to a misunderstanding of story versus gameplay interaction.  

And I won't confirm or deny that Meghan would do that to Garrus had he gotten sick.  :whistle:  She totally would.

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Well, dark horse technically manages all the artists as far as I know. And since Bioware is not providing artists*, it gets regulated to people who probably have no involvement with the series. They may not even know what it is they're drawing- they're just artists looking for a paycheck.

Which I can somewhat empathize with, being a freelancer myself. Sometimes you get desperate. I know if I didn't know what Mass Effect was, I'd be pretty horrified at some of the designs you'd have to come up with.

The best case scenario is that ME comics will keep doing good enough to warrant an actual series, not just a mini series. Then they'd have to hire a more set artist, not just a temp guy.

[*Not at all indicating that bioware should, mind you. Most of bioware's artists are concept guys, who likely have no interest in making comics. Its also likely a lot cheaper to work with Dark Horse's inhouse staff, because these are guys 'proven' to turn work in a short amount of time.]

Modifié par Mims, 19 juillet 2012 - 03:07 .


#19091
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Hey, so long as they give the female turians an ACTUAL fringe, I'm good.

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Ouch. Harsh reality of the industry then. Apparently the only solution is that everybody should know how to draw turians. And krogan. And batarians. And the whole ME universe.
Given that information I can now just imagine the poor b******s who had to draw the aliens fuming "Who is the a****hole who designed these creatures? WHY ARE THERE SO MANY OF THEM?" But I still stand by the whole money-body-rubbing. Only now it is also tinged with healthy doses of hysteria and despair.

Also, this current artist is progress. Right? <insert hopeful smile here> Maybe they will keep them. 

Modifié par Niostang, 19 juillet 2012 - 03:32 .


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 Can anyone tell me if the first two messages actually show up on the datapad? I tried replaying the ending but I didn't get these, might be because I confused the poor app :D

Here's the image:
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Modifié par flippedeclipse, 19 juillet 2012 - 04:48 .


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The first two messages are non-canon messages, I believe. They appear from a website that lets you 'program' your Shepard's game, and then shows you all the messages you would get. [For people who do not have an iphone/android/ect.] You can toggle on/off the noncanon messages.

I can't remember the site link though.

Modifié par Mims, 19 juillet 2012 - 04:52 .


#19095
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Just sabotaged the Genophage cure for the first time (Wreav alive, Eve dead, Mordin alive).
The conversation between Garrus and Shep afterwards (after the 'joking in the cockpit' part) is priceless!

It starts just like the convo they have when you do the cure (Joker also adds his 2 cents);
Joker (about Mordin): "He'll have a hell of a tombstone. "Cured the Genophage!", with a little asterisk, at the bottom, it'll say, "which he also created."."

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Garrus: "So how does it feel, knowing krogan will be singing songs about you until the end of  time?"
Shepard (dialogue option, I did it for the war effort): "To be honest, I did it so the krogan would help your people."
Garrus: "And believe me, it won't be forgotten."
Shepard: "I'm sure it won't."
Garrus: "Our fleets will be there for Earth. I'll make sure of it."
Shepard: "I know you will."
Garrus: "I just hope Wreav remembers his history. I don't want to be back on Tuchanka someday ending another war."
Shepard: "I wouldn't worry about that."
Garrus: "No? Well you've got more faith in him than I do. If it wasn't my own world that needed help..."
Sheaprd: (dialogue option): "That would have been tough to live with, tricking an entire species like that."
Garrus: "I'm not saying you wouldn't need ice in your veins, but I doubt Mordin  would've gone along with it."
Shepard: "We'll never know."

God, I feel awful now, I'm really happy that there is another conversation with Garrus where you can tell him about sabotaging the cure. Though I must say, I really like the storyline with Wreav and sabotaging the cure, it is well written and I'm glad I could keep Mordin alive. ^^
Also wondering which part (if any) the conversation is romance specific. >>'

Modifié par Ramante, 19 juillet 2012 - 09:30 .


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Mims wrote...
The first two messages are non-canon messages, I believe.
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The fact that they don't appear on the datapad doesn't make them non-canon... *stops herself from rambling again*
I am sure Garrus sends them after the ending. Too bad that the app isn't flexible.

Thanks for the link to the Garrus-comic! And I have to agree, those turians actually look more or less decent. Not looking forward to the female turian design though - the last 'attempt' was ridiculous enough to simply laugh and forget, but if a decent looking comic confirms their 'no real fringe' etc style, it'd be a slight disappointment for me. I liked the style shown in some of the fanarts linked here before way better.

And about the full-renegade Genophage 'cure': Thanks for posting the dialogue, I am somehow looking forward to my mostly-renegade-via-manipulated-savegame-history playthrough as well - I just can't kill Wrex in ME, but want to save Mordin in at least one of my games.

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I think this is the datapad website Mims was talking about. I lost the thread for it, though. Still, was pretty cool of that guy to do that, especially considering all the issues the app has been having lately.








Also you guys, here's your daily reminder that THIS exists.





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I can't stop laughing at this image. Was the story any good, at least? Poor Tali.

Edit: Just checked the datapad site, and Harbinger's message litterally made me laugh out loud. Never gets old.

Modifié par Karrie788, 19 juillet 2012 - 09:25 .


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Eh I didn't care for it. We didn't really learn anything new and there were tons of inconsistencies. Her purple blood was one of the more lol-worthy ones. I think there was something in there about the geth being made thousands of years ago, and a number of discrepancies dealing with Dr. Michel and where Tali got the idea to talk to the shadow broker. It's not really worth paying money for, IMO.

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... she has purple blood? :lol:

Well at least the preview for Garrus' comic is pretty good. I'm happy we get to see his dad.