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[Sable Rhapsody]

Seleya_LL wrote...
For me, she's also the only squadmate I have ever tried who makes Garrus stand on the "right" side to not disappear on Leviathan's asteroid shoulder-touch scene. Only observation, no guarantee that position is the true reason for the bug. 

That's good to know.  I'll keep that in mind if I ever get around to spending money on ME3 again 

[Twilight_Princess]

So should we expect Omega DLC late November? They said fall so I assume it will be released during the last month. I want to spend more money on this series too sable but they really need to pad this game a lot more and fix some issues. If it wasn't for the garrus romance I doubt I would be sticking around like I have...and that's sad .  I’m hoping they add more hub worlds like Omega (that have timed missions that only unlock as you progress the main game) I’m hoping they DO give the ME2 crew more content and attention.  I hope they FIX the war asset issue (such a big gripe for me). I don’t “love” the ending by any means but I can accept it. I just can’t accept a game being based around a meter that doesn’t actually amount to anything, they need to fix that.

And if they add more fluff for the romances that will be a bonus too of course

[Seleya_LL]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

So should we expect Omega DLC late November? They said fall so I assume it will be released during the last month. I want to spend more money on this series too sable but they really need to pad this game a lot more and fix some issues. If it wasn't for the garrus romance I doubt I would be sticking around like I have...and that's sad .  I’m hoping they add more hub worlds like Omega (that have timed missions that only unlock as you progress the main game) I’m hoping they DO give the ME2 crew more content and attention.  I hope they FIX the war asset issue (such a big gripe for me). I don’t “love” the ending by any means but I can accept it. I just can’t accept a game being based around a meter that doesn’t actually amount to anything, they need to fix that.

And if they add more fluff for the romances that will be a bonus too of course

I'd guess that Omega is going to be released in November, too, but haven't seen an official source or something. I do actually expect some more minor fluff for Omega, like they did with Leviathan. Any change to the main story or more content for the ME2 romances, however... The first I can't see happening, and the second would be possible in theory, but I will only believe so if I see it. Would be a very nice addition by Bioware, but no optimism on my side. Likewise with Omega as a real hub world (like it was in ME2) - sure, I'd like it, but I don't think we'll get it.

What about the war assets, though? Wasn't aware that there are still problems.

[Pyn]

Anyone talked to Garrus on the Normandy right after the 'dig site'?

[Asch Lavigne]

Pyn wrote...

Anyone talked to Garrus on the Normandy right after the 'dig site'?

You mean from the Leviathan DLC? Yeah that was cute except for the fact that his lines changed way too fast.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

If it wasn't for the garrus romance I doubt I would be sticking around like I have...and that's sad .  

Enough of the game is spectacularly done (Tuchanka, Menae, Rannoch, and a few character cameo sidequests add up to about half the game) where I'm working on an ME3 run with my ManShep, who obviously has no Garrus romance.  But it's still one of my favorite parts of ME3, and a large reason why I'm sticking around.

As for DLC, me not dropping money on it is more the principle of the thing.  I'm sure Leviathan, Javik, and eventually the Omega DLC will have plenty of good content to justify the cost, and I generally don't mind playing and/or paying for DLC.  But in the case of Javik and Leviathan, I don't think I should be paying for something that should've been in the original game.

[Pyn]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

Pyn wrote...

Anyone talked to Garrus on the Normandy right after the 'dig site'?

You mean from the Leviathan DLC? Yeah that was cute except for the fact that his lines changed way too fast.

yep.

Incase of Spoilers, just putting link... Leviathan DLC
http://oi47.tinypic.com/mj0r49.jpg

Modifié par Pyn, 02 octobre 2012 - 12:24 .

[Wolfraptor]

Everyone's Leviathan lines progressed way too fast. You can tell it's a Leviathan line simply because there's absolutely no pause whatsoever between the sentences.

Sable, I agree with you on the principle thing. Both of those DLCs absolutely should have been included in the original game along with the Extended Cut ending. Still, if you ever plan on going back and playing the game from the beginning (or the trilogy like I just did) you're doing yourself a major disservice by leaving them out of the game.

Also @Seleya - the only reason it's taken this long to get through the trilogy again is because I play so little. Being back on night shift this month has allowed me to spend a lot more time on it since I only work a few nights a week, and while maintaining a consistent sleep schedule there's not a whole lot to do on my off-nights. I'm looking forward to rotating back onto Days next week so I can interact with regular society once again

[Sable Rhapsody]

Wolfraptor wrote...
Sable, I agree with you on the principle thing. Both of those DLCs absolutely should have been included in the original game along with the Extended Cut ending. Still, if you ever plan on going back and playing the game from the beginning (or the trilogy like I just did) you're doing yourself a major disservice by leaving them out of the game. 

I know, and I'm torn.  I'm replaying the trilogy now with my ManShep, still haven't done it to completion with FemShep after the ending hulabaloo.  BioWare sometimes packages DLC with older games in an Ultimate Edition, but I wonder if that'll be more expensive than the DLC.  Having to drop $20 on DLC that should've been in the original game while I'm mostly doing volunteer work also helps me stick to my guns 

[Seleya_LL]

Wolfraptor wrote...

Everyone's Leviathan lines progressed way too fast. You can tell it's a Leviathan line simply because there's absolutely no pause whatsoever between the sentences.

Sable, I agree with you on the principle thing. Both of those DLCs absolutely should have been included in the original game along with the Extended Cut ending. Still, if you ever plan on going back and playing the game from the beginning (or the trilogy like I just did) you're doing yourself a major disservice by leaving them out of the game.

Also @Seleya - the only reason it's taken this long to get through the trilogy again is because I play so little. Being back on night shift this month has allowed me to spend a lot more time on it since I only work a few nights a week, and while maintaining a consistent sleep schedule there's not a whole lot to do on my off-nights. I'm looking forward to rotating back onto Days next week so I can interact with regular society once again

Working has a strange habit to mess with one's free time Though night shifts do not sound too pleasant - I don't envy you.

Regarding the DLCs: I wouldn't have bought From Ashes for similar reasons, but having pre-ordered the Collector's Edition, it was not much of a choice. First and last time that I played a game without any spoilers before, first and last time for me to buy a Collector's Edition without being absolutely convinced that it's worth every penny.
Leviathan though, I was just too curious.

Edit: And I had some Bioware points lying around that were a gift during ME2 days - that made the decision (paying money, not paying money...) considerably easier...

Modifié par Seleya_LL, 02 octobre 2012 - 06:59 .

[Asch Lavigne]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Wolfraptor wrote...
Sable, I agree with you on the principle thing. Both of those DLCs absolutely should have been included in the original game along with the Extended Cut ending. Still, if you ever plan on going back and playing the game from the beginning (or the trilogy like I just did) you're doing yourself a major disservice by leaving them out of the game. 

I know, and I'm torn.  I'm replaying the trilogy now with my ManShep, still haven't done it to completion with FemShep after the ending hulabaloo.  BioWare sometimes packages DLC with older games in an Ultimate Edition, but I wonder if that'll be more expensive than the DLC.  Having to drop $20 on DLC that should've been in the original game while I'm mostly doing volunteer work also helps me stick to my guns 

Well there has never been a UE of any ME game and the new box set is hardly coming with anything. Which to me is fine because I already have all the DLC I want.

Leviathan should have been in the original game. It wouldn't have made the whole Catalyst thing and the organics vs synthetics stuff come out of nowhere. And it wouldn't have spoiled, suggested yes but not spoiled, that the AI that was created is the Catalyst. Plus the final conversation with the Catalyst would've been better. If you play Leviathan you get some new options but the whole "who are you? why were you created?" stuff was the same and it was like "Uh Shep, you already got those answers!" And yes, the EC should have been the original ending. How they thought explaining nothing was a good idea is beyong me.

Javik should not have been in the game period. I still think a Prothean alive after 50,000 years is a dumb idea. I have the DLC because it came with the EC and played it once. Javik was ok but again, I hate the idea. I have the DLC on my harddrive still because I like some of the outfits (Garrus' and Tali's) that come with it but don't play the actual content anymore.

And just so this stays on topic with the thread.... Garrus rocks!

Modifié par Asch Lavigne, 02 octobre 2012 - 07:03 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

Asch Lavigne wrote...
Javik should not have been in the game period. I still think a Prothean alive after 50,000 years is a dumb idea. I have the DLC because it came with the EC and played it once. Javik was ok but again, I hate the idea. I have the DLC on my harddrive still because I like some of the outfits (Garrus' and Tali's) that come with it but don't play the actual content anymore.

Javik himself I'm of two minds on.  He's a well-done and very funny character, but I agree that a live Prothean doesn't make a whole lot of sense.  However, Javik's dialogue (especially on Thessia) includes information about previous cycles, and foreshadows the whole organic vs. synthetic Catalyst plot element.  I suppose they could've just included that dialogue into Vendetta's exposition and cut Javik altogether, though.

And yes, Garrus is teh awesomes 

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 02 octobre 2012 - 07:18 .

[Deviant Ingredient]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Asch Lavigne wrote...
Javik should not have been in the game period. I still think a Prothean alive after 50,000 years is a dumb idea. I have the DLC because it came with the EC and played it once. Javik was ok but again, I hate the idea. I have the DLC on my harddrive still because I like some of the outfits (Garrus' and Tali's) that come with it but don't play the actual content anymore.

Javik himself I'm of two minds on.  He's a well-done and very funny character, but I agree that a live Prothean doesn't make a whole lot of sense.  However, Javik's dialogue (especially on Thessia) includes information about previous cycles, and foreshadows the whole organic vs. synthetic Catalyst plot element.  I suppose they could've just included that dialogue into Vendetta's exposition and cut Javik altogether, though.

And yes, Garrus is teh awesomes 

I actually like Javik, he's such a troll. His evil laugh when he messed with James is priceless. Plus my Shepard actully feels weird if she doesn't get scolded by him for trusting Legion, or being nice to Krogan's.

And he approves of Garrus.

[Twilight_Princess]

I also love javi cakes (my nickname for him...you know like "jaffa cakes"...*cough*) I also loved Sten from DA because it was a big reward to get that big douche to like you, that explains it all really.

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 02 octobre 2012 - 08:48 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

I also love javi cakes (my nickname for him...you know like "jaffa cakes"...*cough*) I also loved Sten from DA because it was a big reward to get that big douche to like you, that explains it all really.

LOL, I adored Sten.  And now that you mention it, he does kinda remind me of Javik.  Though I think Shep could take Javik in a fight--if either of my Wardens tried to take on Sten before the midgame of DA:O, they'd get curbstomped.  

So here's the question--do you think Javik likes cookies?  And so I don't get modthwapped for off-topic, do you think Garrus (food incompatibility aside) likes cookies?

[Taboo]

No one dislikes cookies.

For shame Sable. 

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 02 octobre 2012 - 09:20 .

[krukow]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

I also love javi cakes (my nickname for him...you know like "jaffa cakes"...*cough*) I also loved Sten from DA because it was a big reward to get that big douche to like you, that explains it all really.

LOL, I adored Sten.  And now that you mention it, he does kinda remind me of Javik.  Though I think Shep could take Javik in a fight--if either of my Wardens tried to take on Sten before the midgame of DA:O, they'd get curbstomped.  

So here's the question--do you think Javik likes cookies?  And so I don't get modthwapped for off-topic, do you think Garrus (food incompatibility aside) likes cookies?

Dude, Sten's a complete and utter wuss.  My warden AND Morrigan could both destroy him with little effort.  

Plus he'd just lose his sword again.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Taboo-XX wrote...

No one dislikes cookies.

For shame Sable. 

Fair enough 

Except Dalatrass Linron.  I think she hates cookies.  And kittens.  And joy.

[Seleya_LL]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

LOL, I adored Sten.  And now that you mention it, he does kinda remind me of Javik.  Though I think Shep could take Javik in a fight--if either of my Wardens tried to take on Sten before the midgame of DA:O, they'd get curbstomped.  

So here's the question--do you think Javik likes cookies?  And so I don't get modthwapped for off-topic, do you think Garrus (food incompatibility aside) likes cookies?

Not all of my Wardens fought Sten during the search for the Ashes, but for those who did, I don't recall big problems. I tend to throw the best equipment on my main char, though. Sten was actually one of those characters in DA:O I disliked at the beginning, but grew on my during the playthroughs. For most others, it was the other way round. One of my last Wardens even asked to join him on his way home, leaving Ferelden and the whole mess behind.
Javik is funny in some scenes and offers biotics, which was enough for one of my Shepards to take him along frequently, but all in all, he is not one of my favourite characters.

And cookies... I think even Dalatrass Linron likes cookies. But she'd never admit it to save face, and only eat some in secret.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Seleya_LL wrote...
 I think even Dalatrass Linron likes cookies. But she'd never admit it to save face, and only eat some in secret.

Cookies of eternal shame.  I like it.

Curious on your opinions after a similar discussion topic on the Miri thread--what do you think Garrus would do/say if he was there with Shepard at the final Crucible decision?  Or if you're an IT kind of person, what do you think he'd do once he realized what was happening to Shep?

[Asch Lavigne]

Have any other Garrus fans seen the EC beam run with a low EMS? The romance plays no part but man, if you thought convincing him to get on the Normandy was hard to watch....

Seleya_LL wrote...
 I think even Dalatrass Linron likes cookies. But she'd never admit it to save face, and only eat some in secret.

The Dalatrass only likes Krogan shaped cookies so she can bite their heads off while saying "Oh poor Krogan. You want a cure for the genophage? Too bad!" *munch, munch munch*

Modifié par Asch Lavigne, 04 octobre 2012 - 11:36 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

Have any other Garrus fans seen the EC beam run with a low EMS? The romance plays no part but man, if you though convincing him to get on the Normandy was hard to watch....

I watched it on Youtube.  So many sad feels 

Though right after playing ME3 for the first time, I was tempted to do just that--hit the beam with low EMS and select Destroy.  I figured if the galaxy was going to hell in a handbasket anyway, there was no reason for me to force Garrus and Shep to stick around for it.  I still kick the idea around from time to time.

[EnvyTB075]

Some Nihlus love, because I want him back so bad

Asch Lavigne wrote...

Have any other Garrus fans seen the EC beam run with a low EMS? The romance plays no part but man, if you thought convincing him to get on the Normandy was hard to watch....

Keep that away from me.

[Asch Lavigne]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Asch Lavigne wrote...

Have any other Garrus fans seen the EC beam run with a low EMS? The romance plays no part but man, if you though convincing him to get on the Normandy was hard to watch....

I watched it on Youtube.  So many sad feels 

Though right after playing ME3 for the first time, I was tempted to do just that--hit the beam with low EMS and select Destroy.  I figured if the galaxy was going to hell in a handbasket anyway, there was no reason for me to force Garrus and Shep to stick around for it.  I still kick the idea around from time to time.

I destroyed the base in 2 so with a low EMS I only got the Destroy or Refusal options. I was just trying to see if the scene was any different romance wise with the EC.

On a happy note, a few moments after watching Harbinger kill Garrus he was magically alive on the Normandy telling Joker that they had to go. Weirdest glitch ever but it was nice to see Garrus survive being hit by Harbinger. But how did he get on board the Normandy? Someone told me they saw EDI on the Normandy during the Destroy ending. Glitches are funny sometimes.

Modifié par Asch Lavigne, 04 octobre 2012 - 11:43 .

[Seleya_LL]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...
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Though right after playing ME3 for the first time, I was tempted to do just that--hit the beam with low EMS and select Destroy.  I figured if the galaxy was going to hell in a handbasket anyway, there was no reason for me to force Garrus and Shep to stick around for it.  I still kick the idea around from time to time.

Deinstalling ME3 and pretending the game never happened would have been the option I had picked in that situation ^^ Not saying you don't have a point, but there are only so many things I'd do 'for science', and that's not one of them.

But regarding the question about the ending and squadmate's choices: Personally, I can only see Garrus picking Destroy. During all my playthroughs, he tended to be the one who said the more aggressive lines, like advising to kill the Rachni, hold back the fleet to fight against Sovereign etc. These tended to be the 'safer' actions, too, from a soldier's point of view. Doubting the AI fits into that kind of thought - trying to control the big space monsters where the Illusive Man just failed spectacularly doesn't seem very reasonable at first glance, and the option to play god and create Utopia should give most people a little headache. For blowing up the bad guys, the consequences are easier to calculate. He also knows that in a war, casualties are to be expected, so even if he believes the all-Geth-die downside, he'd be able to pull the trigger regardless. As a soldier, his orders are clear anyway, and while he may still be a 'bad' Turian, his own words can be "Go out there and give them hell" when speaking to Shepard.
Plus, when romanced, Destroy is the only option where it's either "Shepard and Vakarian storming heaven" or a chance for both to live. My Shepard(s) would be quite upset if he told her "uh, go ahead, play AI superpower, I'll be over here and go on with my life"

Edit: ToP. Questions about simple problems in an interspecies relationship:

Regardless of Garrus' interest in cookies, do you think he can cook, and if so, only dextro or also levo food?


What about soap? Do Turians use it, or something else, what about reactions of human skin? (There are so many fictions out there where Shepard just uses Garrus' soap that I started to wonder)


All in all, they'll probably figure something out that works. After all, they always do.

Modifié par Seleya_LL, 04 octobre 2012 - 10:12 .