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I feel like throwing a party. With singing and dancing contests.


I'll fetch the brandy ;)

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Morale is very important during the time of war. *nods sagely* Brandy and socializing is important for morale. Good for the team, good for the army, good for all organic civilizations. Why wait until the final victory to share drinks? Let's celebrate smaller victories now.

What if that war never ends, and we enter the stage of attrition that could last for centuries? We might never live to see the last Reaper fall. Let's be happy now, we won't get a better moment. And considering the salarians' short lifespan, this is especially relevant.

I'm for impromptu private parties on the Normandy. Parties that involve a certain salarian professor. Maybe between two or three people. Sharing drink with doctor was awesome, let's have something like that again.

Modifié par laecraft, 16 octobre 2011 - 09:19 .


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Interesting notion. *inhales* I approve.

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Get technical and spill some drinks on the Normandy.

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I don't suppose there's more news on whether Beattie's returning or not?

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laecraft wrote...

Mr. Brainheart wrote...

@Alexy; I bet that if that pic'd be in the game his following would quite suddenly increase..


You nailed it down, I think. The characters who generate the most amount of sex appeal get the most followers. Everyone agrees that Mordin is funny. He provides the most lighthearted moments in the story, and not because people laugh at his jokes - no, they laugh at him, his manner of speech, his misunderstood romantic scene, his sudden singing scene, his occasional statement. He's written to be entertaining, to keep the story from complete and utter doom and gloom. And the character who's partly a comic relief generates the least amount of sex appeal.


Yes, that is a sad but true notion.

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Still prefer him to others. He's immensely deep. And constant doom is boring. "Going to take care of some unfinished buisness here." "We all knew it was likely a one-way trip." Death, death, death - bah. I feel like throwing a party. With singing and dancing contests.

Any authentic Salarian food (That humans can eat) we know of? Or are we stuck with Gardner's usual grub?

Modifié par Mr. Brainheart, 17 octobre 2011 - 10:04 .


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Alexy wrote...

laecraft wrote...

Samara's "romance" is being acknowledged...I wonder if Mordin's
attempted "romance" would be acknowledged too. Probably not, as it was
obviously not meant as anything else but pure comic relief and just a
bit of misunderstanding. Still. I'm hoping for some intimacy between the
characters, it can't be all conversations about saving the galaxy...


Imagine Mordin going
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XD Had to.

But I am indeed hoping for some kind of acknowledgement, even if it was comic relief. I have a huge soft spot for Mordin. I love talking with him, especially when it comes down to his love for art and science. He's a much deeper character than I originally thought first playing the game. More conversations with him would be great.

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phantomdragoness wrote...


But I am indeed hoping for some kind of acknowledgement, even if it was comic relief. I have a huge soft spot for Mordin. I love talking with him, especially when it comes down to his love for art and science. He's a much deeper character than I originally thought first playing the game. More conversations with him would be great.

The only thing I hope for in ME3 dialogues with mordin is that the genophage isn't too big a subject, surely it must be mentioned but that has already had alot of attention in ME2, I'd like to see or hear more of Mordins other work and perhaps more about subjects like art. Even though Mordin's screentime will probably be reduced by quite a bit, I hope they still manage to maintain the multi dimensional character that he is.

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phantomdragoness wrote...

Image IPB

XD Had to.

But I am indeed hoping for some kind of acknowledgement, even if it was comic relief. I have a huge soft spot for Mordin. I love talking with him, especially when it comes down to his love for art and science. He's a much deeper character than I originally thought first playing the game. More conversations with him would be great.


LOL
And I agree, I never thought it would be interesting having a salarian on my team. I love being proven wrong :wizard:

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only thing I hope for in ME3 dialogues with mordin is that the
genophage isn't too big a subject, surely it must be mentioned but that
has already had alot of attention in ME2, I'd like to see or hear more
of Mordins other work and perhaps more about subjects like art. Even
though Mordin's screentime will probably be reduced by quite a bit, I
hope they still manage to maintain the multi dimensional character that
he is.


I wouldn't mind watching him perform some more Gilbert and Sullivan :happy:

Modifié par Alexy, 17 octobre 2011 - 03:23 .


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heeey, it's jeffzero! also, I found mordin to be one of my favorite characters so I must be part of this topic.

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Mordin: "Jeff Zero. Who's that? Nickname? Perhaps. Maybe works with Element Zero a lot. Or nihilist? What. *Inhales* Created fan thread for me, you say? Makes sense. I'm an honerable guy. Considered funny by humans. Yes. fits the bill. Not a lot of activity, you say? Surprising. Hmm *inhales* Maybe it's the lack of physical attraction? Maybe not polarizing enough. Would think genophage created discussions about me, interest atleast. Maybe I should wear tighter armour? Unlikely. I'm baffled. Will need to do tests."

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Getting more personal conversations with Mordin would be awesome. We can't talk all business, there has to be time for personal discussions. That's why I want to speak to him after Sur'Kesh in a more relaxed setting. He's known Shepard for a while, surely he'll be more informal with Shepard now. Maybe we can share drink between the jumps of mass relays in celebration of that female being saved.

Plot-related discussions are great, but comfort and support is just as great. Maybe Mordin and Shepard can inspire each other. It's nice to have company of a loyal friend during the time of galactic war for total extinction.

I rather prefer the discussions of the present to the tales of the past, too. I mean, it's important to know where we come from, especially in Mordin's case, where it's tied to his work and to the future of the galaxy, but now that we know the essentials, it's even more important where we go from here.

I also want an opportunity to tell the characters what I think about them and how I feel about them. I'd love to offer Mordin support (player's choice only, it makes it more valuable if it's your choice). I think you can say something supportive and reassuring like that on Sur'Kesh, although we never see that option being chosen. I'd also love to see that option have consequences. Nothing you say to Mordin during his loyalty mission seem to have any consequences when the conversation ends

Modifié par laecraft, 17 octobre 2011 - 09:53 .


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gosimmons wrote...

I don't suppose there's more news on whether Beattie's returning or not?


I'm afraid not. :( Not that I've heard anyway. I wonder... I'm going to send another tweet nagging various BioWare developers tonight.

To the rest of you, thank you for producing some real conversation in here lately! I've gotta run so no time to reply to anyone else right now but I'll be back later with more 'Din. =]

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I will say this though -- thus far the series has been exemplary about getting the gang back for the follow-ups. The only VA in ME2 that just didn't sound the same to me was Avina... and according to every source I can find even that was indeed the same lady.

There's also the fact that as short a notice as three months before ME2 shipped, Anderson's VA was still out of the loop when approached by fans.

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Since this thread cannot run on sex appeal, we need a controversial topic to keep it spinning. However, I can't think of anything. Everybody likes Mordin.

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JeffZero wrote...

I will say this though -- thus far the series has been exemplary about getting the gang back for the follow-ups. The only VA in ME2 that just didn't sound the same to me was Avina... and according to every source I can find even that was indeed the same lady.

There's also the fact that as short a notice as three months before ME2 shipped, Anderson's VA was still out of the loop when approached by fans.


Wow, that's new to me, had no idea (regarding Anderson's character).

Though perhaps not too surprising seeing as he had such a tiny role in ME2. I missed Anderson a lot  :(

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A question for Mordin Fans: Which do you feel will lead to a better outcome for Mordin in ME3....Shep supporting Mordins role with the Genophage or Shep against the Genophage and Mordins involvment in ME2?

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A question for Mordin Fans: Which do you feel will lead to a better outcome for Mordin in ME3....Shep supporting Mordins role with the Genophage or Shep against the Genophage and Mordins involvment in ME2?


A better outcome for Mordin? That's a tricky proposition... but I'll toss my hat in ... If Shep helps Mordin cure the genophage, I personally think Mordin will, at an emotional / psychological level, find contentment and peace. From all the discussion with him in ME2, when pressed, he seems to have some actual remorse or regret over having to do what he did (or at least it sounds like it to me... 9:00 mark in this scene: http://www.youtube.c...nel_video_title

... so by curing it, I think he'll find some measure of happiness for himself.... of course, there's no telling how the Krogan will develop once it's cured and he might end up regretting the decision to cure them if the Krogans rampage across the galaxy again (assuming he lives long enough to see it happen.. he's very old).

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A question for Mordin Fans: Which do you feel will lead to a better outcome for Mordin in ME3....Shep supporting Mordins role with the Genophage or Shep against the Genophage and Mordins involvment in ME2?


Personally, I'm still hoping there's the option to have Mordin ease into lessening the Genophage's affects, rather than end it outright or destroy the cure.

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A question for Mordin Fans: Which do you feel will lead to a better outcome for Mordin in ME3....Shep supporting Mordins role with the Genophage or Shep against the Genophage and Mordins involvment in ME2?


I was always sort of neutral with his research. I saw it as a necessity, but also a terrible genocide. I hardly come right out and say: "You're a heartless killer!" Mordin himself didn't kill those krogan - he did play a part in it, though. He is willing to do what is necessary, and I admire him for that. However, what is necessary can also weigh on your conscience no matter how right, wrong, or in between.

Even when I tried to go Renegade on his LM, Mordin still seemed deeply troubled with his work on the Genophage. If anything, I let him keep the notes so he could work on it if he wanted to or not. At least with moral actions. It's valuble research, and Mordin may have regretted destroying everything later on because it was knowledge - not just a possible cure. (I would have gone crazy throwing away all that research, and I'm not a scientist by any means!) But it was all his choice in the end. In ME3, Mordin does seem to have taken this cure, and worked on it - or is still working on it. I hope he found peace in it; and if not, I'll be happy to help him out of it all. Wrex would be a little pissed...as will the entire krogan population if they found out but hey! I don't have enough people wanting to kill my Shepard in the galaxy! May as well add the krogan.

Mordin keeping the notes could have both good and bad outcomes. The Special Tasks Group would NOT be happy with the cure/treatment Mordin is performing on the krogan. Cerberus obviously wants the cure/treatment/female for themselves to get themselves the ace in the hole so the krogan will join them (maybe). However, Shepard gaining krogan loyalty would be slightly easier, and Mordin's conscience is at least a little cleaner before he dies.

Not keeping the notes, however: Mordin is brilliant - he may easily start his own research on a cure, but it may take a while. The krogan would be ticked with Shepard for convincing Mordin to throw away the research (if anyone found out) - and convincing them to be allies may take more time.

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phantomdragoness wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

A question for Mordin Fans: Which do you feel will lead to a better outcome for Mordin in ME3....Shep supporting Mordins role with the Genophage or Shep against the Genophage and Mordins involvment in ME2?


I was always sort of neutral with his research. I saw it as a necessity, but also a terrible genocide. I hardly come right out and say: "You're a heartless killer!" Mordin himself didn't kill those krogan - he did play a part in it, though. He is willing to do what is necessary, and I admire him for that. However, what is necessary can also weigh on your conscience no matter how right, wrong, or in between.

Even when I tried to go Renegade on his LM, Mordin still seemed deeply troubled with his work on the Genophage. If anything, I let him keep the notes so he could work on it if he wanted to or not. At least with moral actions. It's valuble research, and Mordin may have regretted destroying everything later on because it was knowledge - not just a possible cure. (I would have gone crazy throwing away all that research, and I'm not a scientist by any means!) But it was all his choice in the end. In ME3, Mordin does seem to have taken this cure, and worked on it - or is still working on it. I hope he found peace in it; and if not, I'll be happy to help him out of it all. Wrex would be a little pissed...as will the entire krogan population if they found out but hey! I don't have enough people wanting to kill my Shepard in the galaxy! May as well add the krogan.

Mordin keeping the notes could have both good and bad outcomes. The Special Tasks Group would NOT be happy with the cure/treatment Mordin is performing on the krogan. Cerberus obviously wants the cure/treatment/female for themselves to get themselves the ace in the hole so the krogan will join them (maybe). However, Shepard gaining krogan loyalty would be slightly easier, and Mordin's conscience is at least a little cleaner before he dies.

Not keeping the notes, however: Mordin is brilliant - he may easily start his own research on a cure, but it may take a while. The krogan would be ticked with Shepard for convincing Mordin to throw away the research (if anyone found out) - and convincing them to be allies may take more time.



You know what... this. I agree with this wonderful person!

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Hathur wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

A question for Mordin Fans: Which do you feel will lead to a better outcome for Mordin in ME3....Shep supporting Mordins role with the Genophage or Shep against the Genophage and Mordins involvment in ME2?


A better outcome for Mordin? That's a tricky proposition... but I'll toss my hat in ... If Shep helps Mordin cure the genophage, I personally think Mordin will, at an emotional / psychological level, find contentment and peace. From all the discussion with him in ME2, when pressed, he seems to have some actual remorse or regret over having to do what he did (or at least it sounds like it to me... 9:00 mark in this scene: http://www.youtube.c...nel_video_title

... so by curing it, I think he'll find some measure of happiness for himself.... of course, there's no telling how the Krogan will develop once it's cured and he might end up regretting the decision to cure them if the Krogans rampage across the galaxy again (assuming he lives long enough to see it happen.. he's very old).


Also, this: I believe curing the genophage will give Mordin peace. The repercussions of that peace are both wildly unpredictable and dangerous enough that Mordin's peace might still feel double-edged... but it would be a measure of peace nevertheless.

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I patted Mordin on the back for the genophage =] only held on to the data as a last-resort option for the war.

I liked that there was also the option to dispute the morality of the genophage with Mordin if you didn't agree with it, it's too bad we don't get to do that with other morally-questionable squadmates (chiefly, Thane and Samara).

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JeffZero wrote...

phantomdragoness wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

A question for Mordin Fans: Which do you feel will lead to a better outcome for Mordin in ME3....Shep supporting Mordins role with the Genophage or Shep against the Genophage and Mordins involvment in ME2?


I was always sort of neutral with his research. I saw it as a necessity, but also a terrible genocide. I hardly come right out and say: "You're a heartless killer!" Mordin himself didn't kill those krogan - he did play a part in it, though. He is willing to do what is necessary, and I admire him for that. However, what is necessary can also weigh on your conscience no matter how right, wrong, or in between.

Even when I tried to go Renegade on his LM, Mordin still seemed deeply troubled with his work on the Genophage. If anything, I let him keep the notes so he could work on it if he wanted to or not. At least with moral actions. It's valuble research, and Mordin may have regretted destroying everything later on because it was knowledge - not just a possible cure. (I would have gone crazy throwing away all that research, and I'm not a scientist by any means!) But it was all his choice in the end. In ME3, Mordin does seem to have taken this cure, and worked on it - or is still working on it. I hope he found peace in it; and if not, I'll be happy to help him out of it all. Wrex would be a little pissed...as will the entire krogan population if they found out but hey! I don't have enough people wanting to kill my Shepard in the galaxy! May as well add the krogan.

Mordin keeping the notes could have both good and bad outcomes. The Special Tasks Group would NOT be happy with the cure/treatment Mordin is performing on the krogan. Cerberus obviously wants the cure/treatment/female for themselves to get themselves the ace in the hole so the krogan will join them (maybe). However, Shepard gaining krogan loyalty would be slightly easier, and Mordin's conscience is at least a little cleaner before he dies.

Not keeping the notes, however: Mordin is brilliant - he may easily start his own research on a cure, but it may take a while. The krogan would be ticked with Shepard for convincing Mordin to throw away the research (if anyone found out) - and convincing them to be allies may take more time.



You know what... this. I agree with this wonderful person!


Thank-you! XD

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I patted Mordin on the back for the genophage =] only held on to the data as a last-resort option for the war.

I
liked that there was also the option to dispute the morality of the
genophage with Mordin if you didn't agree with it, it's too bad we don't
get to do that with other morally-questionable squadmates (chiefly,
Thane and Samara).


I really liked that too. It's like he's open to opposition, and willing to defend his reasons. Mordin's a scientist, he likes variables.

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A question for Mordin Fans: Which do you feel will lead to a better outcome for Mordin in ME3....Shep supporting Mordins role with the Genophage or Shep against the Genophage and Mordins involvment in ME2?


I fully support Mordin's work with genophage, because it's the only thing that allowed the krogan to survive. As he tells you, it would've been much easier to just wipe them out. Which is probably what the Council would've done if Mordin's team failed to control the krogan population.

However, come ME3, the parameters are going to shift drastically. Prominent figures such as the krogan fertile female, Wrex, and the Reapers enter the picture, changing it forever. Under these circumstances, it would be possible to restore the krogan race without destroying them and the galaxy. You get to unite the krogan and forge an alliance between then and the turians, and seal it with common blood spilled in the war against the Reapers.

So the things that were impossible before are now becoming possible. You can cure the genophage and have the happy krogan in harmony with galaxy at the same time.

The genophage was a temporary measure, which is no longer necessary. The krogan owe their survival to Mordin's team and their restoration to Shepard's involvement. In my opinion, the best outcome for Mordin would be this: krogan are united and balanced, the genophage cured, and Shepard supports Mordin personally in everything Mordin's ever done.

When I played, I supported Mordin during his LM, and kept the cure "just in case." I had huge ambitions for restoring the krogan race back then already, even though I had no idea how I was going to pull it off.

Modifié par laecraft, 18 octobre 2011 - 05:10 .