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End of Mass Effect 2 and Save the Base or Blow it Up? (Sidenote on Sun Color)


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What did you do in your "main story?"

I personally think that keeping the base is the best action, in light of the lives already lost by it. If we blow it up we waist their lives, but for whatever reason Bio Ware seems to indicate this is the Renagade choice and I am a full fledged Paragron so I'm a little torn.


Also other than the sun colors reflecting blue for paragon and red for renagade what is the significace of this on mass 3?

This may be the most important decision we made in all of Mass 2 so yeah just looking for some theories and some feedback on your story.

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well seeing as Cerberus is said to be indoctrinated in ME3...

letting them keep a base full of powerful tech might not be the best idea

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I've kept it and I continue to keep it even though we know Cerberus are working with the Reapers in ME3. The intel on our enemy, their technology, their means and motives etc. is just too valuable to blow up because "I won't let fear compromise who I am" as Paragon Shep says.

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IIR, at the end of Retribution the Illusive Man has to move his base due to the hit Cerberus takes and he moves it to a system with a blue star. Not sure what that means though for a renegade playthrough other than maybe the post mission chat with TIM takes place before the move (in the simple case) or maybe he chooses a different system if he gets the base.

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I've blown it to hell in all playthrough's I've done so far. Shepard's lines about it sums it up for me.

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Reaper Tech is Evil, its shown that 100 times over

Blow it up

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I destroyed the base. When Shepard says: "It feels wrong." I took it to suggest that:

1) The Collector base is completely alien AND has been in the hands of completely enslaved Protheans (who aren't even really protheans at all anymore - that's clearly stated.)

2) This base can't go to Cerberus... a group I despise and don't trust. I save the Galaxy just to see my race wage war on all other races in the galaxy? Cerberus will make it happen if it can.

3) Who knows if we can even run the thing? We could be wasting resources and time studying it that could be spent putting together more reliable weaponry. After all... we have Thanix cannons which destroyed the collector base... let's spend the resources outfitting all warships in the galaxy with these weapons.

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That being said, I sincerely hope that the Paragons who did this have a harder time fighting the Reapers. The Collector base is a major weapon... and doing the right thing should always be harder than doing the easy thing.

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Without knowing the future plot twist of ME3 saving the base is the most logical decision.

I kept it and I'm eager to see how that affects ME3.

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marshalleck wrote...

I've kept it and I continue to keep it even though we know Cerberus are working with the Reapers in ME3. The intel on our enemy, their technology, their means and motives etc. is just too valuable to blow up because "I won't let fear compromise who I am" as Paragon Shep says.


This.

The rational choice is to keep the base and my paragon shep did keep it..

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I always blow it up, from my 'main' Shepards to my 'trying something different' Shepards. It's my conversations with Legion that convince me - the geth ideal is for a path of self-determination, and the Reapers have been forcing galactic civilization on prescribed paths. Studying Reaper technology will do us no good - after the experiences on the derelict Reaper, my Shepards have seen the danger of doing anything with their tech, because it always leads to indoctrination. What needs to happen is that the races of the galaxy need to innovate, come up with things that are NOT based on Reaper designs in order to fight them, because they won't have defenses for them.

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Medhia Nox wrote...

I destroyed the base. When Shepard says: "It feels wrong." I took it to suggest that:

1) The Collector base is completely alien AND has been in the hands of completely enslaved Protheans (who aren't even really protheans at all anymore - that's clearly stated.)

2) This base can't go to Cerberus... a group I despise and don't trust. I save the Galaxy just to see my race wage war on all other races in the galaxy? Cerberus will make it happen if it can.

3) Who knows if we can even run the thing? We could be wasting resources and time studying it that could be spent putting together more reliable weaponry. After all... we have Thanix cannons which destroyed the collector base... let's spend the resources outfitting all warships in the galaxy with these weapons.

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That being said, I sincerely hope that the Paragons who did this have a harder time fighting the Reapers. The Collector base is a major weapon... and doing the right thing should always be harder than doing the easy thing.



I think Shepard would disagree when a fleet of Rachni warships pop out of the darkness to help...

Modifié par Legion of Grunt, 14 juin 2011 - 01:57 .


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I have 2 "main" sheps... a paragon and a renegade... and i blew it up on the paragon shep, and saved it on the renegade shep. I have a second renegade that blew it up, and a second paragon that i don't actually remember... i think i blew it up also... so 3 blown up/1 saved. :P

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@LegionofGrunt - you think releasing the Rachni and taking the chance of endangering the galaxy was the easier choice?

I think just pressing the incinerate button (the Renegade) choice was the easier.

And that's what I believe - though the Paragon will lose the Collector base, they gain a Rachni army.

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I always destroy it, My paragon herp derp Shepard thinks it will help stop the war (lol, she's sort of lacking in common sense), while my canon renegon Shep a) recalled how the Reapers talked about how they force the growth of technology in the manner they see fit, and f--k that, B) knows that Cerberus will get their grubby little hands on superior tech and either end up indoctrinated or powerful as all hell, and f--k that, and c) she personally likes to ****** off TIM, so hell yeah.

As Legion states, technology doesn't evolve in straight lines- many paths to one end. She feels that it's better for us to develop on our own terms, instead of trying to develop weaponry based on s--t the Reapers already know.

Plus, you know, she has it in for them. If it potentially pees in their cereal, she's down for it.

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I blew it up

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Sorry, but I thought it'd be safer to destroy the giant blender that churns people into reaper smoothies and could potentially warp my mind.

Keeping the Collector base is like keeping a haunted house with a serial killer in it.

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I keep it. Weaponry we picked up from the collectors was excellent and the base would be full of stuff like that. and Personally I'd rather deal with a war between a cerberus led humanity and alien races later than deal with a galaxy wiped out by reapers because I destroyed our best chance at fighting them.

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Medhia Nox wrote...
... and doing the right thing should always be harder than doing the easy thing.


I completely agree with this.

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I blew it to hell and back.

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I'm still keeping it. Hopefully once we've sorted out Cerberus it will give us an advantage against the reapers.

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Pfft, I am still giving it to them even with this news, if that makes the game harder/more enemies... Fine by me, you get renegade points for it.

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Legion of Grunt wrote...

well seeing as Cerberus is said to be indoctrinated in ME3...

letting them keep a base full of powerful tech might not be the best idea

This is metagaming.

Now answer the question about what you would do if a fleet of nearly-unstoppable sentient warships are about to invade the entire galaxy and wipe us all out.
And you can't tell the future, so you have no idea the organization you just spent months working with is going to turn on you.
You also don't know what secrets the base might hold- if it has any information on the Reapers or not. Also, it appears to be made from Collector tech, like their ship. Which didn't indoctrinate you, so why should the base? Especially after you were ON BOARD a derelect Reaper that could STILL indoctrinate?
Don't you think you'd at least consider keeping the base? ;)

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Here are 2 thing we do know

1. messing With Reaper Tech [which Collector tech IS] never Ends well

2. Cerberus is incompetent with a few notable Exceptions

Giving Cerberus the Base is like Giving a Hyperactive Child with ADD a Gun

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Jonathan Shepard wrote...

This is metagaming.

Now answer the question about what you would do if a fleet of nearly-unstoppable sentient warships are about to invade the entire galaxy and wipe us all out.
And you can't tell the future, so you have no idea the organization you just spent months working with is going to turn on you.
You also don't know what secrets the base might hold- if it has any information on the Reapers or not. Also, it appears to be made from Collector tech, like their ship. Which didn't indoctrinate you, so why should the base? Especially after you were ON BOARD a derelect Reaper that could STILL indoctrinate?
Don't you think you'd at least consider keeping the base? ;)


This. Re the indoctrination you could assume they would take steps to prevent it from happening.

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greed89 wrote...

Here are 2 thing we do know

1. messing With Reaper Tech [which Collector tech IS] never Ends well

2. Cerberus is incompetent with a few notable Exceptions

Giving Cerberus the Base is like Giving a Hyperactive Child with ADD a Gun


I kept the base. I don't know those things to be true.

1. Never? Thanix Cannon among others.

2. Really? The Collector's would still be collecting without Cerberus.  In fact the Reapers would have a bigger advantage without them. What's the Alliance doing? What are the other races doing? Nothing and that's very incompetent.

Modifié par CC-Tron, 14 juin 2011 - 03:16 .