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[Gibb_Shepard]

 I've got a feeling that the end of ME3 will constitute the saving of Earth, but not the elimination of the Reapers. Now this is a completely unfounded gut feeling, i'm not complaining about anything. If this situatin were to come about, however, how would you guys react to this? I've noticed the large amount of emphasis placed on "Saving the Earth" rather than "Destroying the reapers". Bioware have stated they wish to continue the ME franchise after ME3, do you think they may leave ME3 at "Saving the Earth" and have subsequent spin-offs with the reapers as a continuing threat?

Anyway, how would you guys like this ending? Would it be satisfying in your opinion? Earth being saved but the Reapers not being destroyed?

[Flashlegend]

Yea. I've been thinking this since midway through E3. I'd probably be satisfied. If Bioware had made the second game actually about the reapers too I would be dissapointed but since they're only arriving in 3; I think it would be unrealistic to expect to defeat a galactic threat like that in one game.

Modifié par Flashlegend, 14 juin 2011 - 07:33 .

[Nixter Shepard]

I think it will be along the lines of ME1...
Destroy earth and sacrafice the few, or send a massive fleet of all galactic species sacraficing the many.

[Paul Sedgmore]

They have said multiple times that this is the last of Shepard's story and that they don't need to worry about save imports into the next game so I think it is safe to assume that this is the end of the Reaper arc.

[Paul Sedgmore]

We already know that ME3 will take us to some of the major places in the galaxy like the Salarian and Turian homeworlds and that we will have to recruit the other races to help fight the Reapers.

Plus over the course of the previous two games we have made some pretty big decisions that affect the other races like; The Rachni, Saving/Killing the Council, what we did to the Geth etc.

With all of those overarching decisions I can't see how Bioware could keep telling a story about the Reapers without importing a save file.

[azerSheppard]

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

They have said multiple times that this is the last of Shepard's story and that they don't need to worry about save imports into the next game so I think it is safe to assume that this is the end of the Reaper arc.

Just because Shepard story is over doesn't mean it's the end of the reapers. I personnally cant see how the galactic civilizations can stop the invasion. I mean look the the reapers, "our numbers will darken the sky of every world" meaning they are with enough to invade all civilizations at once.

The idea that we can defeat them is proposterous, unless the Geth are ready with their new construct and achieve super intelligence. Rules dictate that intelligence growth is not infinite, and will reach a peak at a certain point, ideally around the intelligence of the reapers.

Would be bad if the Geth reach the same conclusion as the reapers tho.

[Yeti13]

hmmm It's an interesting theory but It would be surprising if we did not finish them off, there are still other things that they could do with Mass Effect after the war... personnaly I want to play as an Alien and learn more about the different cultures

[azerSheppard]

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

We already know that ME3 will take us to some of the major places in the galaxy like the Salarian and Turian homeworlds and that we will have to recruit the other races to help fight the Reapers.

Plus over the course of the previous two games we have made some pretty big decisions that affect the other races like; The Rachni, Saving/Killing the Council, what we did to the Geth etc.

With all of those overarching decisions I can't see how Bioware could keep telling a story about the Reapers without importing a save file.

DA2 did that, importing the choices, not the character.

[Flashlegend]

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

We already know that ME3 will take us to some of the major places in the galaxy like the Salarian and Turian homeworlds and that we will have to recruit the other races to help fight the Reapers.

Plus over the course of the previous two games we have made some pretty big decisions that affect the other races like; The Rachni, Saving/Killing the Council, what we did to the Geth etc.

With all of those overarching decisions I can't see how Bioware could keep telling a story about the Reapers without importing a save file.

As wonderful and original the ME trilogy was with making our decisions matter,(not so much in 2 but hopefully in 3) that doesn't mean Bioware is going to continue to do that with the Mass Effect IP.  Why do you think ME2's antagonists were basically filler(as far as the overarching reaper plot goes) and the main plot was fairly unnaffected by the decisions in ME1? It's simply too hard to make a sequel(ME3) to a game that could have vastly different endings.(What ME2 didn't do) If they continue with the Mass Effect Franchise, they're going to have to do something similar to what DA2 did. Otherwise, it would be impossible. So no, we don't necessarily have to defeat the reapers at the end of ME3.

Modifié par Flashlegend, 14 juin 2011 - 08:18 .

[Paul Sedgmore]

SwobyJ wrote...

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

We already know that ME3 will take us to some of the major places in the galaxy like the Salarian and Turian homeworlds and that we will have to recruit the other races to help fight the Reapers.

Plus over the course of the previous two games we have made some pretty big decisions that affect the other races like; The Rachni, Saving/Killing the Council, what we did to the Geth etc.

With all of those overarching decisions I can't see how Bioware could keep telling a story about the Reapers without importing a save file.

Again, about the Reapers?

"There are a few surviving Reapers that left the battle wounded. Afraid to attack the galaxy head on again, and unable to reach dark space again, they lie in wait plotting to return and have their revenge. dum dum dummm"

There. Has nothing to do with Shepard's choices, since all or most endings will involve you winning in some form or another.

That could happen sure, but franchises that have a one trick pony get stale after awhile. Look at Star Wars, it gets kinda boring once you know that the only story being told is "the Sith rise up and attack the galaxy, get beaten go into hiding only to rise up once more" there is so much more that could happen in the ME universe that limiting the stories told in it to having to fight the Reapers every so often would be a waste

[Paul Sedgmore]

azerSheppard wrote...

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

They have said multiple times that this is the last of Shepard's story and that they don't need to worry about save imports into the next game so I think it is safe to assume that this is the end of the Reaper arc.

Just because Shepard story is over doesn't mean it's the end of the reapers. I personnally cant see how the galactic civilizations can stop the invasion. I mean look the the reapers, "our numbers will darken the sky of every world" meaning they are with enough to invade all civilizations at once.

The idea that we can defeat them is proposterous, unless the Geth are ready with their new construct and achieve super intelligence. Rules dictate that intelligence growth is not infinite, and will reach a peak at a certain point, ideally around the intelligence of the reapers.

Would be bad if the Geth reach the same conclusion as the reapers tho.

Casy has said a few times that during the game you will be tracking down ways to stop the Reapers and while this may well end in a Deus Ex Machina it is entirely possible that the Reapers will be stopped leaving only a few that can't pose a significant threat considering that the galaxly already knows how to stop them.

Hell look at historical battles where a force stood against superior numbers and better troops like the Battle of Agincourt or Battle of Thermopylae

Modifié par Paul Sedgmore, 14 juin 2011 - 08:33 .

[Gibb_Shepard]

It's just, saving one planet out of the thousands that are populated, would seem anticlimactic - very anticlimactic. Saving Earth, without somehow ending the reaper invasion throughout the galaxy, would suck.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

azerSheppard wrote...

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

They have said multiple times that this is the last of Shepard's story and that they don't need to worry about save imports into the next game so I think it is safe to assume that this is the end of the Reaper arc.

Just because Shepard story is over doesn't mean it's the end of the reapers. I personnally cant see how the galactic civilizations can stop the invasion. I mean look the the reapers, "our numbers will darken the sky of every world" meaning they are with enough to invade all civilizations at once.

The idea that we can defeat them is proposterous, unless the Geth are ready with their new construct and achieve super intelligence. Rules dictate that intelligence growth is not infinite, and will reach a peak at a certain point, ideally around the intelligence of the reapers.

Would be bad if the Geth reach the same conclusion as the reapers tho.

Casy has said a few times that during the game you will be tracking down ways to stop the Reapers and while this may well end in a Deus Ex Machina it is entirely possible that the Reapers will be stopped leaving only a few that can't pose a significant threat considering that the galaxly already knows how to stop them.

Hell look at historical battles where a force stood against superior numbers and better troops like the Battle of Agincourt or Battle of Thermopylae

Yes, but they were eventually overran. 

[Paul Sedgmore]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

It's just, saving one planet out of the thousands that are populated, would seem anticlimactic - very anticlimactic. Saving Earth, without somehow ending the reaper invasion throughout the galaxy, would suck.

Just because they are focusing on Earth for the pre-release stuff doesn't necessarily mean that the game will just focus on that. It may be the case that saving Earth is the final step, but you will be travelling around the galaxy and I'm sure you will have to deal with the Reapers threatening the other species before they will help you save Earth. 

Yes, but they were eventually overran.

I take it you mean Thermopylae? If that is the case then yes they were eventually overun but they bought the time needed for the rest of Greece to form up and beat the Persians. That battle was basically a Pyrrhic victory  for the Persians.

Modifié par Paul Sedgmore, 14 juin 2011 - 09:07 .