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[CROAT_56]

During the 20 minute preview of ME3 at E3 this year on Gametrailers we see a scene of Shepard in the comm room of the Normandy talking to a hooded Salarian which I and many others have theorized as being the Salarian council member.  So does this mean that the Normandy has taken the Flagship role from the Destiny Ascension or are the council members just visiting? 

link to video  showing the hooded charector

what do you guys and gals think

Edit: tittle edited for better understanding of what im trying to get at lol

Modifié par CROAT_56, 14 juin 2011 - 07:27 .

[CroGamer002]

No it's part of Alliance.

[nitrog100]

Why would they ever want to do that? The Destiny Ascension is a far better capital ship than the Normandy SR2. And why would you lug the council around on dangerous missions aside from saving on the long distance call for the mission report? Maybe the Destiny Ascension (if it survived the Battle of the Citadel) will have been outfitted with a giant Thanix Cannon and the other ship upgrades from ME2. It would only make sense considering that it is pretty much the most important ship in the galaxy. I wonder what the fighting around the Citadel is going to be like...

[mgs00]

Havent seen this vid before............is this vid linked in that ME3 info topic? I don't like to look for new ME3 vids so thats why i go to topics like that.

[CROAT_56]

mgs not sure tbh

as for the DA it got its rear kicked in the battle against sovie. 2 reasons the Normandy is a better capital ship by that i mean better for protecting the council are
1. Stealth capabilities
2. more nimble and faster
3. most advanced ship other than a reaper

O.K. so i put three

Edit: @ mesina the citadel fleet is comprised of mostly alience vessels after the attack led by Sovie so the Normandy being "flagship" is not that far fetched imho

Modifié par CROAT_56, 14 juin 2011 - 06:31 .

[Weiser_Cain]

There has to be bigger, more powerful ships than the Normandy. I mean, does it's stealth even work with Reapers?

[CROAT_56]

We don't know for sure yet about the stealth systems working against reapers but my hypothisis is yes that and the entire ship has basicaly been upgraded with bits of sovie and our new reaper IFF so they would assume we are friendly on there sencers if they could see us on there sencers

[Bogsnot1]

Hitching a ride with Shep as he goes to save the Salarian homeworld.

[CROAT_56]

that could be the case bog

[Rolling Flame]

Weiser_Cain wrote...

There has to be bigger, more powerful ships than the Normandy. I mean, does it's stealth even work with Reapers?

Well, it didn't work against the Collector crusier and the various Oculus', so my guess is no, it won't work.

[CroGamer002]

Salarian Councilor could have just talked to Shepard about some missions like Hackett by the end of Arrival.

Modifié par Mesina2, 14 juin 2011 - 06:45 .

[TheBlackBaron]

a) It's part of the Alliance and is most definitely not going to be joining the Allied Citadel Defense Fleet, because that involves a whole lot of sitting around guarding politicians instead of, you know, doing things a stealth reconnaissance frigate should be doing.

There's a lot more to being a flagship than just packing a punch. Ever wonder why in the real world we use battleships and carriers as flagships? It's not just because those are the most impressive, it's because those are the only ships with the size to hold the sort of command suites required by fleet commanders. Put simply, the Normandy is too damned small.

[CROAT_56]

@ Mesina true but it would be pointless for him to come to the ship just for a debrief when you can easily send your report and activate a communications chanel with there ship to talk ala ME1. I still think the Normandy would make a very safe ship for the councilors evan though we will be in battles, so would the DA and she is more vulnerable than the Normandy for reasons i mentioned above and will state again for the record

1. Reaper IFF
2. Reaper Tech
3. Reaper Weapons
4. Most advanced Ship in the galexy other than the Reapers
5. Highly trained crew capable of defending the council
and the list goes on

[Malanek]

This would be a bit like a navy designating a submarine as it's flagship. The status of flagship is largely symbolic but there are propoganda and diplomatic reasons behind it as well. IMO the Normandy is simply too small.

[CroGamer002]

Normandy is made for scouting and sending infiltration teams in dangerous hostile control places.


Why would Councilor even consider using that?

He should stay away from the battle.

[CROAT_56]

"Size isn't everything" (Joker) but on topic yes Flagships in there literal sense are political symbols but we are fighting the Reapers not a terminus merc band politics doesn't matter. as for the Normandy being to small i don't think so, there is more than enough room for the councilors on board. I'm not saying flagship as in leader of the fleet think of it as air force one for the council

[oOmpie]

1) I imagine the reaper IFF only works for unintelligent machinery like relays.
2) Amount of reaper tech is minute, otherwise everybody on board would have been indoctrinated.
3) Normandy carries like 1 Thanix cannon? A dreadnought like the DA could tote around a gazillion.
4) Stealth does not work against Collectors so sure as hell won't work against reapers.

An in my view the most important of all, a flagship will most often fulfil a role as a command and communications post. The Normandy simply is not equipped to perform that task.

So yeah, if the Council wants to hide in some dark corner the Normandy is a decent option, it they want to coordinate polititcs and defensive forces not so much...

[Orion1836]

I see a lot of parallels with the Reaper War in ME3 and the Shadow War in Babylon 5. IIRC, in B5 there was a whole fleet of White Stars at the end, which would be akin to having a fleet of SR-2s.

It makes sense, because big dreadnoughts are just targets if the enemy has highly advanced weaponry when compared to your own. Instead, smaller warships with high maneuverability would theoretically stand a better chance, especially with a good pilot at the helm.

This is an idea I wouldn't mind Bioware taking from another sci-fi series... seeing a cavalry of Normandy clones come to the rescue would be badass.

[CROAT_56]

@swob thats what i have been trying to say the bigger the ship the more vulnerable it is to attack, yes the Normandy will be in battles but it fares a much better chance than any cruiser or dreadnot in the same confrontation for its supperior shields armor and manueverability.

[CroGamer002]

Also why does President of USA goes with Air Force One



Instead of Stealth Bomber?

[silentassassin264]

Because the Air Force One was made for comfort of such dignitaries and a stealth bomber was not made with comfort of the pilot/"passengers" in mind.

To main topic. Shepard is the commander or "captain" of the Normandy and would be captain of the citadel fleet if the SR2 was the flagship of the fleet. Considering Shepard starts ME3 on trial...I highly doubt that is the case.

[CroGamer002]

SwobyJ wrote...

CROAT_56 wrote...

"Size isn't everything" (Joker) but on topic yes Flagships in there literal sense are political symbols but we are fighting the Reapers not a terminus merc band politics doesn't matter. as for the Normandy being to small i don't think so, there is more than enough room for the councilors on board. I'm not saying flagship as in leader of the fleet think of it as air force one for the council

Exactly. Like an Air Force One..with weaponry. lol

Bring in Wrex, the Rachni Queen, Aria, Alliance brass, Geth emmisary, Quarian leaders, merc commanders, TIM (assuming not indoctrinated), and we have a party! Arguments and conflicts abound,

That's dumb.

Normandy is not secure location and you don't have meeting of world leaders on military ship unless it's not possible elsewhere.


Citadel is possible to be meeting place and safe.